/christian/ - christian

I failed about two and a half hours into the day with some buddies of mine.

Failed the moment i entered the water closet, as an average christian porn addiction is to be expected.

>>20788
>>20790
These posts are blackpilling, is there anyone here that has not failed NNN.

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>>20791
I haven't failed!

>>20787 (OP) 
Failed to an HMV.
>>20794
>>20795
I'll pray that the both of will succeed in your respective endeavours.

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Will be using this month as a stepping stone to refrain altogether. God bless all.

Here have a neat little tune.

If it counts from this moment, 1st of November, then i am continuing.
If you count from the beginning of this day then i failed two hours ago. Heavy drug this thing is, but i think i can do it... at least for a couple of weeks.

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>>20795
Me neither. Stay strong brother. Remember that November may only be thirty days but for Christians NNN is 365 days-long.

I've been going for a while.  The way I count it, it's been since before Valentine's Day (that being that I don't count it if I'm not conscious when it happens).  I'm not too worried about just another month.  You can do it, too, anon.  It gets easier after the first three weeks.

second day status : Fapped

I am sorry brothers I was tempted.

>>20869
Just get back up, brush yourself off, and move forward Anon.

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>>20869
https://easypeasymethod.org/ 
plesea read this in one day if you can, and stay strong, please DONT EVEN THINK you can resist if you are not in constant prayer and reading the word of God 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wikt12mzstc
and dont be alone where you can sin, go to your church and request the help of an elder
you dont have to tell them what the problem is but be in company and fellowship with people in your faih
if you dont go to church just be around your family or in a public space.
>>20839
365 days and the 4000 weeks we are alive 
please resist this evil that has broken so many lives already

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>Day 4

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>>20966

i failed
im a failure

>>20982

"For a righteous man may fall seven times
And rise again."
-Proverbs 24:16a

>>20983
I already fell 4 times but today has been peaceful, i think i can nail tomorrow and perhaps until the end of the month
Even if we fail we can continue and develop something, who knows we may complete December without trying.

I failed today, I started before NNN about a week and a half ago, it was pretty easy and even tho I failed today it wasn't to porn.

Anyways, hopefully I didn't just jinx it. There's still 3 more weeks left in November and it takes about 3 weeks for things to get easy mode.

>>20985
So I've heard.

I failed :( I went on over to /cuckquean/

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>>20988
https://easypeasymethod.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wikt12mzstc 
stop ignoring advices
Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.
Zechariah 4:6

Been going strong for 11 months now. Wet dreams don't count since you don't have fully conscious control over them, and it's a mechanism your body uses so your prostate doesn't pop like a balloon. December 4th will be the one year mark.

>>20991
Thanks for the consideration but I'm fine. Things like that haven't worked really well for me.

Best advice I can give to anyone here is to fill the void the addiction fills with something else (love rather than lust for example) preferably something tangible that you can touch and see everyday. Say you have a crush at school or work, do it for her. Or do it for God, if you work at your church or study apologetics or anything of the sorts then do it so you can do those jobs with the highest efficiency. Same thing with hobbies.

Basically fill the void the porn fills with things and people you love and who you don't want to hurt or let down and let that help power you through. And if you feel weak pray to God for strength although from my experiences He may not respond, I guess it depends on your situation and what kind of character He wants you to build.

>>20991
It seems that he makes the point that sexual desire is one thing, and there is biblically nothing wrong with burning with desire for a beautiful woman, but where it becomes sin is when we entertain that desire in and of itself as fantasy or worse fornication.  Doug Wilson also has some great videos on this too though they're focused on married life. He posited a scenario where you're on your computer, scrolling when you cross by an ad with a woman in a tight bikini that just happens to fill your screen as your wife enters the room: what do? He said you can either impress and assure her by jumping out of your seat and making a show of shock and indignation at this moral horror, in which case you'll have been a good pharisee by making yourself look really righteous while enabling desire to fester in your soul because you acted like it's a real big deal and that'll leave an imprint in your mind. Or what you could do is brush it off and as he put it "treat it as seriously as it deserves, which is not at all" and turn to your wife and say "isn't this a great country?" before scrolling away like you were going to anyway

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>>20971
>Day 5

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODdN7dSgRg https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gODdN7dSgRg

i failed again, theres no hope for me im not gonna make it
its over

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>>21007
>kracc bacc

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>>21011
Why the fr*ck do godless homos keep coming here?

The answer is not iron willpower or devotion to an imaginary friend, but right brain chemistry and lack of boredom. I used to fap 3-5 times a day before moving back to parents and sibling, now I have close to no desire as long as I'm not alone. The brain gets happy chemicals from social interaction with family and doesn't need to make up for it, simple as.

A suggestion from personal experience:
confession is a big help.  
Now, what I mean by that is not strictly the Catholics' sacramental confession but confession in general (though I feel that may be just as helpful).  
I decided at the start of the year that this would be NN2022.  I told some beloved friends of mine I had been having this problem and that I would be taking up this task.  I have not succeeded in that goal.  I failed twice in January and twice in February.  Each time, I wrote the date down in a .txt file and told one or more of my friends about it.  
Now, in addition to every other motivation, I have the additional motivation that I do not want to let down my beloved friends.
There was one day, more recently, that I spent an amount of time looking at stuff I ought not have been looking at.  That night, when I lay in bed, I was unable to control my thoughts.  I sent a message to my friend and asked him to pray for me.  I told him that, if he prayed for me, I would not fail that night.  after what felt like hours, I managed to fall peacefully asleep.

tl;dr tell your loved ones about your problem and hold yourself accountable not just to yourself but also to them
>Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.

>>20988
Based
>>21015
/cuckquean/ most likely

>>21045
cuckquean wouldn't bring literal faggots.

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Day 8: who's still participating?

>>21082
I intend on winning.

>>21087
Based.

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Day 10 /christian/ soldiers, you're 1/3rd of the way there!

>>21082
Lost hard and a lust overcame me like very few times in my life, but i still intend to curtail the habit down so i can lower the intensity.

>>21122
>I ended up fapping
>Does this count as a loss?
yes.  This should be obvious.

>>21122
>However, then I thought "what if I get blue balls"
Never do this it's a trick of the devil.
t. past experience

>>21129
Blue balls isn't even that bad, imagine failing because you're afraid of it.

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>>21130
repent. (i also failed brother. i dont have any right to say this to yo but pleae think about christ and what he had to give to make us free from sin)

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>>21138
>implying I haven't repented
That's why I haven't failed this month.

>>21138
why are you mass replying at me?  I was just answering anon's question

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DAY 15
GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 15

>>21165
WOOTWOOT

I'm up to 146 times in my quest for Nutting Nonstop November.

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>>21167

I don't know how blessed I am to say this, but I have never masturbated ever to porn, although that doesn't mean I haven't struggled with porn. I don't have any physical problems, it's just something I never did or heard about growing up.

There's something about a sin you haven't committed (yet) though. Even though I am already a sinner, they are like my own little Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil if that makes any sense.

>>21170
Believe me if you can though, it hurts me just as much.

>>21170
Don't start. Simple as, Anon.

Just to be clear, you'll be continuing after December starts, right, anon?

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>>21175
Yeah, duh.

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>>21175
>cooming during advent

>>21175
>implying i haven't been going strong since last December

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For the remaining NNN warriors out there and anyone getting up after having failed, felt like sharing some images with info dump. Hope it will help some people out there.

>>21200
>fourth pic
except those things don't help you in abstaining, they just make you feel even worse when you inevitably fail. your brain can and will rationalize just about everything it can so it makes sure you nut, once you have a long enough streak going that's a motiator in and of itself.

>>21200
im feeling like god has abandoned me, i know its a deception but im feeling awful

>>21204
Reminder that God is faithful even when the human heart is not.

>>21205
amen
i have been restored

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Day 20 it's 2/3rds accomplished

>>21200
After failing i have been doing it more senselessly than before, there must be a technique to control the lost aside from working or being entertained with something, shame my work shift makes me feel anxiety about playing games or watching movies: Cannot sit relaxed knowing i have to sleep early and work in the morning.

>>21255
easypeasy explains how the sensation to crave porn or masturbation its a mental deception like self fullfil profecy:
> i will not masturbate but this is so hard i will fall eventually!
instead you must rewire your brain a think like this
>i dont masturbate, i dont need to i dont even consider it an option

>>21304
It's the most common form of demonic posession in our time tbh

Dawn of the Final Week
'7 days remaining'

>>21312
7 days? more like 70 years remaining.

>>21304
>i dont masturbate, i dont need to, i dont even consider it an option
This is correct.

>>21317
If they can't last another 7 days you can't expect them to last 70 years.

>>21304
Thanks, will try it ("i dont need to i dont even consider it") and report back

>>21305
some guy said demons are born when we masturbate, it is very scary 
>>21317
>70 years remaining
>erectile disffunction laughs in the dark

>>21389
Demons can't be born.
Masturbating just opens you up to the possibility of possession by making you depraved.

If you feel remorseful about it then don't worry you should be fine

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>>21389
>some guy said

im on anti psychotic drugs which makes it impossible to masturbate because its painful

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>>21516
based schizo meds making it so people stop sexually sinning
The "take your meds" posters are right

>>21389
Demons aren't born.  There is a set number of demons which is half the number of angels (one third of the host of heaven became demons).

>>21540
True, real question is are angles/demons specially spiritually because technically speaking all demons except for Satan died in the flood and are spirits so what makes them able to posses people and keeps normal spirits from doing so.

I know when people die they go to sheol but what about demons? Revelations seems to mention demons rising from abandon and plaguing humanity so are some let go and others held captive?

Could make for an interesting thread

>>21546
>Not even a remotely Biblical statement there, friend.
my reasoning for making that claim is that we never see any demons in a physical form past the flood, infact in one of the few instances in which a demon does appear on earth in the bible its in the form of a possession which is spiritual. The only demon which ever seems to appear physically is satan who appears before Jesus to tempt him. Thus my claim.

>>21543
>all demons except for Satan died in the flood 
>Sauce: Anon's b*tt.
Not even a remotely Biblical statement there, friend. However, there apparently is a small contingent of them (those who fathered the Nephilm perhaps?) who are already bound and awaiting judgement.[1]

>also
BTW, no spiritual being (either Angelic or Human) "dies" (the way you seem to be implying). We all of us will survive for all eternity. Either in hell, or the New Heavens/New Earth...but it will be eternal.

1. https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jude%206

>>21547
That claim worked out logically seems to be there is literally only 'one' demon, (to wit: Satan), since he is the only one that can be interpreted as having appeared bodily (ie, the serpent in the Garden of Eden). This position is itself clearly non-Biblical, from the first book to the last book.

>>21550
what? How did you come to that conclusion, the Bible mentions other demons before they died (such as the 1/3rd of the angels that fell) we just dont know what happened to them, which considering the only other time they pop up is as spirits leads me to believe they at some point died hence my claim.

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FOOLS! The ultimate cum master has almost reach a perfect turky cum covered Nonstop Nutting November score of 300 nut busting coom pleasured cumshots for this month. You just can't even begin to bask in my glory. My achivement is so great and flawless with my dick aka The Greatest Jizz Factory made of human flesh. Just take a moment and be inspired by awesomeness.

>>21605
You are truly the milk cow that always gives. The udder that always leaks gives the greatest joy to all.

It's the day 30 of (however many days until you get married) who won?

>>21629
362 days in. Come Saturday my victory shall be achieved.

made it, but temptation was great. Luckily, my prayers were answer.

>>21666
>666

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>>21666
God bless you Anon. Luck, I'm sure, had nothing to do with it.

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the war may be over but the fighting never ends

>>21811
revanche!

For posterity,
it is good to not lust and to not masturbate, but please do not base your sanctification on your efforts but rather on the power of God. 
Galations 3:3,
>Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 4:9-11,
>But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
It may be good to use resources, if God wills, for you to improve, but please entrust your sanctification to the Lord and not to man's devices, for no change can come about but through God.
Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

>>21811
But look at where the trollface guy's hand is... he lost to the UN... 😭

NoFap 2023 has started who is on board?

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>>22818
>who is on board?
I am.

>>22818
i had a lustful dream, does it counts?

Why November and not Lent?

>>23103
Because it's not a religious observance, merely an Internet observance.
'N'o
'N'ut
'N'ovember

>>23109
Isn't every avoidance of sin a religious observance?

>>23114
Haha good question. Like most everything else morally-related, it depends on the motivation involved, Anon. On this board, yes it probably is a religious act. /fit/, /pol/, /b/? Ehh, probably not so much.

In my world view, literally everything you think, say, or do has religious implications. I'm a Christian, after all.

Stupid question....
Young men who masturbate every day have a higher risk of prostate cancer. Obviously, God wants you to wank less.  
50+ year old men who masturbate once a week have a higher risk of prostate cancer. Why would that be?

>>23127
i don't think that's very nice and I strongly suspect it isn't true and you made it up with no regard for the truth.

>>23137
Still burned for calling you out in that other thread for not being nice and saying things with no regard for the truth?

It's hard to be a Christian, many people have a habit of gossip and saying bad things about people with no regard for the truth. 

The Catholic Church recognizes habit as a basis of sin. It's still sin tho, it just means that sometimes one does things without thinking, like when I ate meat this morning. I wasn't thinking it was Friday.

>>23149
Post sources to backup your claims or your bearing false witness.

>>23137
Women often do that, I've noticed as well.

>>23152
Who died and made you The Lord our Judge?

https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/guide/understanding-prostate-cancer-basics
'Frequent ejaculation'

Whether it’s from sex, masturbation, or wet dreams, men who ejaculate more appear to be less likely to get prostate cancer. Doctors aren’t sure why it helps, but they think it may help move potentially irritating substances out of the prostate.

Religious context:
Leviticus 15. Short answer - VD containment. Spilling the seed is not a mortal sin as there is no death sentence. Clean up and do penance. 

Frequently the Sin of Onan is brought up. (Genesis 38:8-10) God struck down Onan's brother, so Onan was told by Judah to give an heir to his brother's wife. 
Without an heir, his brother's wife was doomed to poverty and have no one to care for her in her old age. 
Onan did the deed to enjoy himself but deliberately spilled his seed so his brother's widow would not have an heir, thus leaving more for him to inherit. 
For that act of greed and lust and wanton disregard for his brother's widow, God struck down Onan. 

Both passages have to be correct, they're of the Bible. So, spilling the seed is a venial sin, while the sin of Onan is more than that and a mortal sin. Frequently priest/pastors don't agree with this and want to make it a mortal sin, and they don't explain why God struck down Onan. 

Consider now, that Leviticus 15 is about health issues. Which is why I raised the question... Much of the old law is recommendations about health; Cloven hoof and chews the cud? Good to eat. (Cows, goats, etc) Cloven hoof and doesn't chew the cud? Bad to eat (pigs if not cooked right can and usually did give you worms, a heck of a way to die) So... what of the health issues and religious issue here?

>>23158
I guess my message is don't stop going to Church if you can't stop. In and of itself, spilling of the seed, according to Leviticus, doesn't separate us from God like adultery does. It appears to be a venial sin, the way I was taught in Catechism a hundred years ago... (not really 100 years, but pre-Vatican II). That is, if a mortal sin is one that was grave enough to call for a death penalty in the Law of Moses. 
The deceptive part is that the recent church forgot to add the part about the death penalty in the law of Moses, and just says "grave sin" and never tells you what is grave and what isn't.

>>23158
>Onan did the deed to enjoy himself but deliberately spilled his seed so his brother's widow would not have an heir, thus leaving more for him to inherit. For that act of greed and lust and wanton disregard for his brother's widow, God struck down Onan. 
I thought Onan didn't want to go through with it because he felt it was wrong to sleep with his dead brother's wife, especially if they weren't married. Wouldn't that have been a sin as well, since he was sleeping with someone that wasn't his wife?

>>23165
>I thought Onan didn't want to go through with it because he felt it was wrong to sleep with his dead brother's wife, especially if they weren't married. Wouldn't that have been a sin as well, since he was sleeping with someone that wasn't his wife?

That is the way they did things. They didn't have Social Security back then; when you got old, your children took care of you. 
So if your brother died childless, it was up to you to impregnate his wife. Seems strange to our values today, doesn't it? Children were considered a blessing. It was only done if the brother was childless. 
The father of the children would be treated like the dead brother's children. So when Judah died, her son would inherit. 

It comes from the 'Deuteronomy 25'
5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband’s brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel.

They were following the Law of Moses.

>>23158
>>23159

Leviticus 15 is talking about involuntary nocturnal emissions (i.e. wet dreams.)  Deliberate masturbation, on the other hand, involves lust and adultery of the heart; not to mention the additional sins that using pornography entails.

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>>23158

I don't really understand why some insist that spilling the seed is a mortal sin and not a venial sin, but would also believe divorce, which was condemned by the Lord in the Bible, isn't a sin at all. 
Divorce causes all sort of pain and suffering to the put out spouse and the Children, but isn't a mortal sin? It causes harm to other people. 
That's upside down thinking. Divorce is serial adultery. Even if you put your wife out for adultery, you can't re-marry. You get the sacrament of marriage only once if your spouse doesn't die. 

Masturbation is a sin, but a venial one according to Leviticus. (so people need to stop claiming I said it isn't a sin, it's a VENIAL sin that doesn't damn you to hell).

The Popes did teach that divorce and remarriage is a mortal sin.

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>>23239
Catechism of the Catholic Church:

>Offenses against chastity

>2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.
>2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."
https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM

>2394 Christ is the model of chastity. Every baptized person is called to lead a chaste life, each according to his particular state of life.
>2395 Chastity means the integration of sexuality within the person. It includes an apprenticeship in self-mastery.
>2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.
https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P88.HTM

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>>23241
>tfw I don't get to hug Christ like that

>>23242
Receive the gift of Salvation and you will Anon.

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>>23241
Yes. That's from Wojtyła's catechism. 

Spilling the seed is a venial sin in the Catechism of Trent, citing Leviticus as I have been doing. Wojtyła's catechism says mortal. Both cannot be right and both cannot be Catholic. Catholic Popes are infallible (never wrong) and indefectible (never changes). 

If the Council of Trent is wrong, then the Church fell when it was held, then the Church today has no legitimacy. 
If the Council of Trent is right, then the Church today is not the Church of Jesus Christ. 

Considering all the blasphemy that Wojtyła committed as Pope, by equating the true Triune God in Three Persons of God the Father Almighty, Jesus Christ our Lord and only son of the Father, and the Holy Ghost to some pagan moon god that tells its followers to burns churches and murders nuns and priests, it should be clear that we should reject his false Catechism and sick with the Bible and the Council of Trent. 

Wojtyła's beliefs have a lot more in common with Freemasonry than Catholicism. He was big on the blasphemous belief that all religions were a path to heaven. Why would you even be Catholic then?

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>>23246
As a Catholic who was baptized two years ago it grieves me greatly. Novus Ordo Catholics are worse than most secular people or the same at the bare minimum. I cannot associate with these people and Novus Order feels like this church was founded 60 years ago, which it was.

Frankly, before I became Catholic I never thought of masturbation as mortal sin. As sin, yes, but mortal sounded outlandish to me and I bet priests are tired of hearing those confessions over and over. In the Middle Ages people were not that puritanical but also not as perverse.

The only thing that holds me is the rich tradition, history, rituals and saints. You find better communities in Orthodox or Baptist churches.

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>>23325
Yeah, the Novus Ordo. Most Catholics (as in better than 2/3rd) attending the Novus Ordo Mass (NOM in graphic) don't even know they're not Catholic. 
The Novus Ordo Priest commit the sin of sacrilege every time they give the Holy Eucharist to someone who doesn't believe the Catholic faith. No abortion, no homosexual "marriage"
And I find the words "The Latin Mass" to be Cringe. There are two real masses said in Latin, the Tridentine Mass and the Dominican Mass. There could be more, but there are at least two. 
Many don't even go to the Tridentine mass from the unchanged Roman Missal. They go to Bugnini's changed 1964 mass. 

I donno. I'm going by the Bible when I say Masturbation is a venial sin. Clean up, do penance, and you're forgiven. 

Yeah, and I wonder about these priest that try and find out who you are when you do the Sacrament of Penance (aka confession). From the old catechism, they not supposed to do that and for good reason; it tempts the one giving confession to omit sins in confession, and it tempts the priest who hears it to take part in their sin. For example, I know for a fact that there are a lot of women out there who lust after priests. They confess it. Because they don't observe anonymity and ask for details as to how old you are, married or not, etc, they can often figure out who's tempted to such a sin.

>>23335
>For example, I know for a fact that there are a lot of women out there who lust after priests. 
Do women really?

>>23340
Father Isaac Mary Relyea talks how married women hit on him after he became a priest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmzjiR2GyDk

When you are Chad, and likely even if you are not, women are tempted to corrupt you, to conquer and eat you as the forbidden fruit. When you are a pure and chaste man a rotten woman is more than glad to destroy you, pull you down to her misery.

>>23353
Sin happens. 
We are all sinners

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>haven't been able to go more than a week in the last year
>haven't gone more than a couple month in over a decade
I've had better luck quitting cigarettes and cocaine, and I don't know what to do. I feel like an irreverent jerk when I pray, only to proceed to do the same things mere hours later.

>>23359
We all know that we shouldn't get too used to commiting sins.
I don't a strong self-control so I need to give myself rules.

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Here's a good cautionary tale against coomerism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iluOmq1DYY

>>23741
try something else for once. for example, use a chalk instead of cocaine to teach you not to stop taking drugs.

>>23743
would rather buy a comic just to use it for references for most of time

>>23745
also, wasting so much money on streamers, especially vtubers, just because you want a shout out, is stupid.

>>23746
btw, i only wrote separately because this board or site only allows 112 characters for me

>>23747
no it doesn't?

Bump, it's back

>>25813
Considering how hard I failed I don't think I could ever do it again (whacking it, that is). So this should be fairly easy.

Just stop touching it! 🍆

Stay strong brothers! Show Satan flesh doesn't have the last word over you, in Jesus' name!

Day number two, gentlemen! Remember to keep your hands of your 🥒

Didn't even notice the month and I've already failed. Every month should be a no-nut-November, though.
Time to rise up and try again.

>>25816
Let's how one day he gets tired and gives up. I want to think the satisfaction he gets from seeing us falling gets overshadowed by Jesus forgiving us time and time again.

I almost failed but I didn't how are your Fridays going?

>>25840
Staying strong! 💪

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I had a half-wet dream last night. By the Lord's mercy, I was able to wake up, interrupt the flow and rush to the bathroom. I've had these dreams before, but this time the demonic oppression was very, very evident, trying to force me to give in to the act. I imagine that the oppression will become more insistent, not so much because of NNN, but the Advent. Just remember that temptation and oppression are not sins, and stay strong! Let us pray for each other at all times and, God willing, banish this sin from our lives.

Lord Jesus, have mercy on us brothers on this thread, let us sanctify ourselves and be counted among your own at the end of time, with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

>>25842
To be fair since you're not fully conscious during a wet dream and have no control over it it doesn't count as a sin. In fact it's actually a biological function to expel excess semen if you're not having sex.

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I've lost
It's over.

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I would like to think i am mostly since im going to ever liturgy i can go to (Despite The closest Orthodox church being over an hour away) and now getting more into the habit of praying before and after things the main thing that i still really suffer with is my lust pretty much anything i see that is remotely attractive or reminds of some kind of pornographic material i always end up end up being consumed by my lost and cave in its honestly so bad that im considering just getting an old Nokia 3310 so i dont have access to the internet at all times

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>>25845
Get back on your horse, anon. The fight isn't over yet.

>>25845
>>25849
I failed too brothers. I don't know how we're ever going to beat this. May Jesus have mercy on us, this cross is too heavy.

>>25850
I failed this Tuesday's morning too. Woke up before the alarm clock, picked up my phone, started browsing half-asleep; twenty minutes later, I had sinned.

I lack the drive to face it like a battle, I'm just dragging my feet along the way... and then complaining about it online. I guess most of the time is not that bad? But when I'm at a low point I feel it's always been like this, even when it hasn't, and that discouragement makes me sink deeper.

I should get some kind of filter for my phone.

>>25853
Yes, that guy does raise some valid points, there comes a point when you just have to do it (or not do it), no excuses. At the same, he hasn't been exposed to pornography since before he was 10. Sometimes I feel like I've been a sexual abuse victim, only I'm both victim and perpetrator.

>>25857
the reason it feels worse when you fail is because you tell yourself that you're not going to fail day after day, only to do it again. it's the feeling that you're a weak-willed excuse of a human that hurts more than the actual sin.

>>25858
Oh, absolutely, you've hit the nail in the head. When I fall I'm hurt in my pride, and the idea of being a lowly coomer is way more painful than the thought of rejecting Christ. Until I purge out that pride, I'll keep falling. Funny how pride often takes the form self-pity instead of arrogance.

>>25853
I think it's because it is a disease that has a dependency on loneliness. If you always had company and couldn't get away from it, then the reason you'd want to escape them and masturbate is because the company is lacking in some way, whether that is romantic or by some other means. But I think that so long as you aren't lonely, you won't have this masturbation addiction.

Call it a bag of chemicals hypothesis or these simple means to excuse us, but I want to know why I'm compelled to do these things so I can figure more effective ways to get out. Oxytocin is a love addiction that stems from being deprived and the worst of the withdrawl seems worse than a bereavement.

I'm not sure this man has experienced it. I want to know if he's ever experienced the breakdown of a romantic relationship, for example, or if he has experience with coaching desperate men on how to recover from things like this.

It's hard. It's like all the magic you had in your life is lost, but the thing that you loved was just a proportion of your brain that you were in love with, misleading you and blinkering you, wherein what is real or what is fake can't be discerned and wherein fixing a problem with your brain chemistry is not something that can be so easily done.

He reminds me of Peter Hitchens when he talks about addiction. You need to have personally had a ride beforehand; to know just how much you've been used to having a poisoned reality, how a world without it is physically impossible if it's manufactured within your own brain, and how you've regulalry poisoned yourself with it so often it has altered all your memories and experiences and interactions for all your life.

I may just take the "Abilify", you know. Relationships are such haunting things to the point that I'd see me self-sabotaging my only way out of this. I don't even regret the experiences I've had but man Limerence and Oxytocin addiction is a lust-gluttony it's not right to have carried.

>>25853
Based Orthobro

Roll Call! We are a 1/3 of the way through November. How is everyone holding up?

>>25862
not really

>>25897
Wait what happened to him?

How did everyone do this November? If you didn't make it, did you at least fast to some degree that made it noticeable in contrast to the previous months? If so, keep that hard work going. If not, no worries ask for God's help in this endeavor and keep trying. The evil one doesn't want us to try at all.

>>26034
Got through most of the month only because I was sick and it killed my libido. Failed hard every day this week. Need to pray for forgiveness and then get back up again.

>>26034
Since >>25859 I've been free. I had fallen several times through August to November, but before that I had been clean since January. I used to had a severe porn addiction, playing H-games and fapping daily. Seeing how I've been healed, I'm exited to be clean for a whole year, mostly as a sign of love towards God and a big fat middle finger to Satan. Let's pray this coming year will be the first of many many clean years.

I didn't thing being chaste was possible for me. Now, though I'm still on my way there, I believe it's achievable, as long as I remain aware that I'm not achieving crap and let His grace act in me.

Praise God, anons.

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We should talk more about DeltaFosB, the protein linked to addictions. Goblins may not want us to know about it.

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>>26361
Oh yeah here's a picture of the guy who legalized p*rn in Japan in the first place, Harry Truman. What a nice cipher he has on his robe!

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>>26361
Oh yes. Part of the reason the "EasyPeasyMethod" is kind of hard to read through, is because despite getting so many things right (like the DeltaFosB protein), it gets an equal amount of things wrong.
I _want_ to quit, and am quite successful when I remember who's behind making the Greek word for adultery (p*rnographia) free.
If something is "free", especially if it's widespread, chances are something's seriously wrong. And another thing; I was only ever interested in soft pron (not that I ever wanted to start getting addicted, some disgusting pedo hag indoctrinated me at school to believe it was "normal", lmao), and like 99% of what I saw in my life were static, anime/fanart images, even when I first got into it (though it was more real women in the first 2-3 years). And I'm a NEET and (like most people on here) NOT an atheist, so the book is kind of hard to read since I can't relate to a lot of what it's saying.

It's still a book with (what seems to be) good intentions, don't get me wrong, it's just hard to read through a lot of the jumping to conclusions about the reader that it does (of which only like 50% of it is right, so far). I'm not going to give up reading it, just giving some criticisms of it.

...I typed like 4x as much as I wanted to type, I can't be succinct for some reason

>>26363
>99% of what I saw in my life were static, anime/fanart images
That is, 99% of what I saw when looking for waifus with ill intent

>>26364
>Our bodies are the most sophisticated objects on the planet. Whether you believe in intelligent design, natural
selection, or a combination of both, our bodies are thousands of times more effective than man! We’re unable to
create the smallest living cell or the miracles of eyesight, reproduction and various interlinked systems present
in our bodies or brains.
Okay, based. Glad I read more. At least they seem to recognize intelligent design. I'm still reading it.

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>>26364
>Me: “Why do you want to stop?”
User: “I read in a pick-up artist’s blog that it’s good to stop for four days to amp myself up.”
Me: “Aren’t you worried about the health risks?”
>User: “No, I could step under a bus tomorrow.”
>Me: “But would you deliberately step under a bus?”
>User: “Of course not.”
>Me: “Do you not bother to look left and right when you cross the road?”
>User: “Of course I do.”
I'm liking this book more and more as I read, glad I didn't give up on it.

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>>26366
>(Here’s another thought experiment: let’s >say someone comes to you and says they >don’t necessarily want
>an orgasm but very much want to make >love, even penetratively. They want to do it >for as long and as far as
>you can go without an orgasm — but if it >happens then it’s fine. I assure you of a >phenomenal new sexual
>experience far better than any other, if you >ever get that offer. Try it.)
>Try it.
>Try it.
Uhm, I'm sorry ,what? That's sex outside of marriage (which is what p*rn means in Greek, as I have stated earlier). Am I missing something?