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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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In this thread post why Christianity is based and is the Truth, or post pictures or links related to that.
The goal of this thread is to be a bag full of Jesus seeds you can quickly get and plant in non-believers' hearts. (eg. you can visit this thread for good links to send to a LARPagan to prove them wrong)
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https://anon.cafe/christian/res/4633.html
https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/christianity-based-paganism/
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>>15493 (OP) 
>The goal of this thread is to be a bag full of Jesus seeds you can quickly get and plant in non-believers' hearts
>can quickly get and plant in non-believers' hearts
Did early christians preach like this, this sounds like subliminal propaganda? the Freudian/Edward bernay approach of subversion.
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>>15516
in a world almost entirely hostile to Christians, times have changed. And the idea of mental subversion via means of simply telling people what you believe is a fake and gay perversion. Thats not how human psychology works. This thread goes into more detail >>15404
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>>15522
>>15522
So you instead prey on the feeble minded, the suicidal, the mentally challenged, the sick and the economically oppressed to spread your gospel. This is in all honesty cultish behaviour, and should not be encouraged.
>>15536
>So you instead prey on the feeble minded, the suicidal, the mentally challenged, the sick and the economically oppressed to spread your gospel.

theyre the ones who need it the most. And the only ones who will listen.
>>15536
That's what trannies do you transphobic bigot.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390766134
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Here is some quality stuff from this very board.

https://anon.cafe/christian/res/4633.html#11920
https://nikaea325.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/gospel-versus-guilt-mirror-transcription-from-anon-cafe/

https://anon.cafe/christian/res/4633.html#4867
https://nikaea325.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/christianity-marxism-and-fascism-mirror-transcription-from-anon-cafe/
>>15536
The Son of Man came not to save the righteous, but call sinners to repentance
The_Case_for_Christ__A_Journalist's_Personal_Investigation_of_the_Evidence_for_Jesus-Zondervan_(1998)_-_Lee_Strobel.pdf
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This should be required reading for every Christian.
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>>15536
It's not the healthy who need a physician but the sick.
>>17097
Troons are self destructive faggots who neck themselves.
Christians built empires.

Fuck off raidnigger.
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>>17107
>>17097
oof thats very transphobic of you
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>>16061
The case for Christ is kind of old here is a more modern book for evidence for Christ.
>>17107
>Christians built empires.
Rome had faggots(hadrian) and troons(elagabalus) as emperors, persian, greeks and arabs built empires yet were massive faggots(pedastry). Your point is moot, troon. Empire building is not a qualification for spiritual superiority.
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>>17121
Where are the Greek and Roman empires now?
1000+ year old relics of history, yet Christ's kingdom lives on.
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>>17135
>yet Christ's kingdom lives on.
As disjointed denominations waging wars against eachother as they continuously lose followers/believers due to Secularisation and Liberalism?
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>>17232
>This guy again
You got nothing better to do then try and demoralize? Fuck off.
>Where are the Greek and Roman empires now? 1000+ year old relics of history, yet Christ's kingdom lives on.
five seconds later
>You got nothing better to do then try and demoralize? Fuck off.
Fuckin kek man, snap back to reality dude.
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>>17239
What else is there to say? Christ's kingdom lives on and even if it's a shell of what it use to/should be as long as it's around and there are Christians in the world (particularly real ones like some of the users on this board before it was raided by faggots) then Christ will win.

Demoralizing, bait posting, /cow/ and /dup/ raiding, faggots can go back to sucking the antichrists cock like the bitches they are. Christ has won.
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>>17252
>Christ's kingdom lives on and even if it's a shell of what it use to/should be
Why is it hard for you to admit the reality of the death of your religion. There are hardly any christians left in the world apart from rural retards and some 3rd world nations, what a kingdom.

>Demoralizing
>Muh /cow/
>Muh /dup/
>raidfags
>Muh "AntiChrist"
>trollface
We all know it's you AntiChristHater69. YWNBAW.
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>>17256
>zigger bored with his own cesspool website so he comes to shit up /christian/ with more of his filth
kill yourself
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>>17259
>shills /christian/ity on other IBs
>constantly get into arguments with pagans and atheists
>cries like a jew when hit back
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>>17264
seethe.
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>>17269
anon do you realise that the germans willingly converted to christianity? they willingly brought their traditions with them when they made the choice to submit to the holy trinity. why do you think you're smarter/more based than the german peoples of the middle ages?

>inb4 muh charlemagne
he was a frank (german) and saint boniface was an anglo (german)
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vgh mine pagan ancestors wovld be so provd of me standing up to chroistkekery online...
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meanwhile his actual "pagan" ancestors...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
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>>17269
A common misconception.
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Both from this board (variants of one another)
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>>17269

This is a common misconception that is the product of urban legend and hysteria, rather than anything of substance:

https://youtu.be/ca_Yx3aMCiE

https://youtu.be/DfcvJWPTY64

https://youtu.be/UlEQW-NPqWI
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>>17825
This is fake news, Christmas is dripping in paganism, just watch this video and tell me you don't think Christmas https://youtu.be/OImabGvoQNs
Cultural traditions are understandable but it's important to put God first, this is impermissible especially when it competes with the Lord's day https://youtu.be/QE-N_CS7YpE
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>>17828

I watched the first video all the way through.  Other than gift giving and taking place at roughly about the same time, 99% of Saturnalia has nothing to do with Christmas.  I am unimpressed and not looking forward to watching the second 1 hour video you provided.

However, if you can watch all three of the videos I linked (the ones with actual primary sources and evidence), and can dismantle their arguments with something of more substance than just yelling "fake news!", then I will bite the bullet and watch the 1 hour video you posted.

Do we have a deal?
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>>17830
>Other than gift giving and taking place at roughly about the same time, 99% of Saturnalia has nothing to do with Christmas
The similarities are more clear if you know the history of Christmas or think more closely about it all. For instance, the "king of Saturnalia"- in the middle ages there was a Christmas tradition in which a small child was made "bishop of Christmas"  who would issue jovial commands that everyone would obey.
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>>17846
why did people celebrate Christmas in places that never celebrated Saturnalia under the Roman Empire then anon?
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CHRISTIANITY & WESTERN MAN - Andy Nowicky, March 22, 2011
https://affirmativeright.blogspot.com/2016/03/christianity-and-western-man.html

>The notion that Christianity makes white Westerners into meek little lambs fit for racial dilution, if not slaughter, is thus a crass and ill-informed misconception. For it is in the context of Christianity—or some other universal vision of humanity and human justice—that white advocates can be sure of the worthiness of their cause.
>Of course, Christian doctrine also warns us not to mistreat other peoples, just as we would demand not to be mistreated ourselves. If some would chafe against this restraint as somehow weak and unmanly, let us remember that the alternative (“might makes right”) has much more potential to backfire badly if our side suffers a temporal setback. Christianity enjoins all people and all races to be mindful of justice, regardless of who is strong and who is weak. One need not jettison racial pride or preference for one’s own ethnic particularity to comprehend the wisdom of precisely such a universalist perspective.
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>>17925
my dumb brain wants me to ask "then how will you spread Christianity if you hate globalism?".
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>>17929
Globalism is the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis. You can spread Christianity without the help of united nations or some globalist entity. Simply asking a random person if they'd like to talk about God is spreading Christianity, it doesn't have to come from some mega church funded by globalists. Just because something is established or popular doesn't mean it's globalist.
>>17252
>then Christ will win.
For that to happen Christendom must still exist, but by your own admission it's a former shell of what it used to be. How can Christ's Kingdom exist when there are no Christians, a day does not pass without Christian leaving the faith for either Larpaganism, Newage faggotry, Islam or even plain Atheism. You can't escape reality forever, one day you too wake up and will leave christianity and hopefully never look back.
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>>18107
Low quality demoralization post, you didn't even read what I said right.
>>17828
>Christmas is dripping in paganism
Tired of this low IQ drivel about CHRIST MASS being pagan from some Protestants.
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/asd/2018/12/05/no-christmas-is-not-pagan-just-stop/
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>>18135
>Mass
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>>18135
>mass
>not pagan
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>>18140
>>18143
>Protestants
>Christian
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>>18184
>Romanists
>Christian
>>18184
Protestantism is true Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYGsr74mXoE
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>>17293
I didn't realize this alcoholic prot is making tiktoks for a living now
>>20361
We don't have b*tches, we have Good Loving Wives. Niggerfaggot.
>>20361
What the frick did you just fricking say about my religion, you small child of the devil? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in Bible Study, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Non-Belivers, and I have over 300 confirmed conversions of Non-believers. I am trained in baptism and I'm the top pastor in the entire Christian Community. You are nothing to me but just another sinner. I will convert you the frick out with blessings the likes of which has never been seen before the eyes of our lord and savior, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that sinful material to me over the Internet? Think again, sinner. As we speak I am contacting my friends and fellow christians and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the flood, sinner. The flood that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call science. You're fricking done for, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I convert you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands and the bible of Jesus amen. Not only am I extensively trained in exorcism, but I have access to the entire arsenal of holy water and bibles from the pope himself and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your sins off the face of God's green earth, you devil child. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your sinful tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you atheist idiot. I will spill holy water all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking blessed, kiddo.
>>15496
Agreed
>>15507
Re: PDF. One who require miracles are a "doubting Thomas". Too many miracles are Freemason deceptions. 
Two middle memes: Yes Jews have hated Christians and Christ for over 2000 years. Some would point out they hated Christ when the first learned he was coming.
Almost all the 12 apostles were murdered for spreading the word of God. 
I say Almost because some say John emerged from the boiling oil unscathed. 

It is little surprise that no one likes to hear the words of Christ. Jesus Christ himself told us that it would split us from friends and family. That's something to think about if you're telling people what they want to hear: that God will make them rich, that God died so they can sin... or in the odd case of Catholics, that every little thought and temptation is a mortal sin that will damn them to eternal hell.
If you're preaching and no one hates you for it, then you're not preaching the Gospel. That's true and Jesus Christ said so. Don't like it? Take it up with Christ. 
John 15:12
New International Version
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
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>>16061
Non-denominational mega Church?
no thanks.
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>>21421
The case for Christ has nothing to do with mega churches?
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>>15493 (OP) 
>>21420
The NIV calls Lucifer Jesus. It belongs in a trash bin.

See: Isaiah 14:12, Revelation 22:16, 2 Peter 1:19,  Revelation 2:28
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>>21441
You're clearly taking the title 'morning star' out of the original context in Isaiah.

>12 How you have fallen from heaven,
>    morning star, son of the dawn!
>You have been cast down to the earth,
>    you who once laid low the nations!
>13 You said in your heart,
>    “I will ascend to the heavens;
>I will raise my throne
>    above the stars of God;
>I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
>    on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.
>14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
>    I will make myself like the Most High.”
>15 But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
>    to the depths of the pit.

It very clearly is 'not' 'call[ing] Lucifer Jesus', but rather pointing out the pride and hubris in Lucifer's heart about himself. The rest of that chapter has numerous similar references.
Civilization only works when people act honestly even when it is against their own interest. 
They admit their wrongs, they give up things they don't need just for penance, and have mental discipline. 
Those were Christian acts. 
Now most people lie, cheat and steal.
>>17256
Russia (a Christian nation) is currently kicking the shit out of your new world order. Christianity will never die.
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>>21562
The way I read the Book of the Apocalypse, and a passage from Matthew, I think at the end of time, Christians go to heaven and get new bodies 'cuz the old bodies are kinda... dead. 
I'd be glad to be proven wrong, cuz dying stings like heck.
>>21562
>Russia
>Christians
It murdered many of its Christians, destroyed many beautiful churches and monasteries, and forced the Orthodox Church under the Communist Party. So what was left of the Church after 1991 is under the Russian State, and not independent as it ought to be.
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>>21659
"Russia" is not a person, but a country. 
Many Christians were murdered by the Bolsheviks, who's leadership were majority jewish and considered Christians to be cattle to be destroyed.  
Putin is Orthodox, and wasn't even born when the Bolsheviks were murdering Christians. One must be careful not to fall for Jewish lies that Christians committed the sins of the Jews. That is called "scapegoating", and has been a Jewish tradition since before Christ.
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>>21661
Russian Orthodoxy is schismatic and is not in communion with Greek Orthodoxy.
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>>15516
See the parable of the sower. What are preachers but laborers casting seed to the soil? Some seed will die, but some will grow into life everlasting.
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Not sure if it's what you're looking for, but here's OC responding to a common misconception.
>"christianity is based thread"
>most posts about how bad the anti-christians are
pretty retarded tbh
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>>17824
>schools
>thinking
schools were utter bullshit even way before any subversion
>>21843
Sure thing, (1) one and done. Mind addressing the ((( Bolshevik ))) problem, rather than your red herring?
>>25013
Well to be fair anon, You can usually get a clear indicator on how something should be approached by how your enemies view it. In fact the best way to tell if something is wicked is too see how far is strays from the bible for the most part. I'm going to go into detail with this so please be patient and read if you want to know more about history. So firstly let's go back... All the way back to the times of Noah. This is relevant because Jesus claimed that the End days would be similar to the days of Noah In Matthew 24:37 which reads like this
Matthew 24:37
"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
Now we need to identify what the Days of Noah were like. And we can figure this out by simply reading about it in Genesis 6. 
Genesis 6:4
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
Notice how in the days of Noah the "son's of God" were mingling with the Daughters of men and when you read on further it gets even clearer.
Genesis 6:5-7
"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
In other words things got so bad that God was straight up going to destroy all of his creation. Because they only had evil thoughts continually. Just looking at the average person nowadays shows that this is reality. I'm firmly in the camp that the vaccine was really the mark of the beast and that everyone that took it is going to meet the same fate as the Jews who are the definition of what an anti Christ is 
1 John 2:22
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
Exactly what the modern Jews are. Moreover anyone who helps the Jews are actually liable to get the same punishment as they get. 
2 John 1:9-11
"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
One of the prerequisites of getting into heaven is actually to be more righteous than the Pharisees. Mainly the fact that a person must be more righteous than the Jews again because the Jews claim direct lineage from the Pharisees.  
Matthew 5:20
"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
In other words, If you are as bad as the Jews you have no place in heaven. So obviously if you practice what the Jews are peddling including all of their rampant degeneracy I think it's safe to say you wouldn't be allowed into heaven unless you repented(Which means to think again) and turn away from such wickedness. 

Remember in the bible this sort of event we are currently living in has happened before. As what was said in Ecclesiastes rings true here. "There is nothing new under the sun". This whole global agenda thing is one of the oldest ideologies on the planet.

Against race mixing you could attempt to say "thou shalt commit adultery" is actually referring to this, which is a common belief in Christian Identity circles But this is false doctrine because Jesus himself brings it up in Matthew 5 and it's explained that it's clearly about being unfaithful to your spouse. So if this is the case then is there anything that can thoroughly prove race mixing as unbiblical. Well we could always say that Genesis 6:4 is evidence for this to be the case and it's certainly true that it could be an effective argument after all. In the New testament Jesus directly states that Angel's aren't given in marriage and thus you could probably say they can't have sexual intercourse. But this is just speculation. We can't say it's definitive. However there is a verse that directly mentions it. The verse in question is the verse Jude 1:7
"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
The word used for "strange" in greek is heteras 
https://biblehub.com/greek/2087.htm
It means another. So Sodom and Gomorrah went after another flesh. You can also include the blatant homosexuality as well. And remember the end times are supposed to be WORSE than Sodom and Gomorrah. 
Matthew 11:23
"And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. "
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