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where did all the good anons go
>>333703 (OP) 
Where did the good times go?
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>>333703 (OP) 
Where did you come from?
>>333704
Where did you go?
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>>333712
Where did you come from, Cotton Eye Joe?
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>>333703 (OP) 
Sleepychan has always been more slow than dead. But if you ask where the other anons went, dunno. Personally, last time I felt like leaving zzzchan, I tried going back to 8chan for a bit, but that didn't last, because it took less than 24 hours to have my posts nuked by Mark for expressing opinions he didn't like, because that fat fuck is incorrigible in his incompetence.
/jp/ spinoffs
>>333713
If he hadn't raped my fiance, I'd be married a long time ago.
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>>333703 (OP) 
>Dead board
>8 Replies in 4 hours.
Seems fine to me boss.

>Where did all the GOOD anons go?
I personally believe the combination of political instability, economical downturn and armed conflicts that have appeared one after the other since 2020 have taken a toll on the stock of imageboard autists.
So people who would otherwise be spending time here have been pushed by the circumstances to other spheres. So they are either wage slaving, shilling a preferred political outcome on social media or just too depressed to put effort into making silly content for anonymous mongolian basketweaving forums.
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>>333730 (P.S.)
Also a non insignificant number may have fallen to the Abominable Intelligence menace are have cut contact with everything outside of their waifubot.
>>333730
I was a neet in 2020 and am now wage slaving, so I can confirm your theory on that part.
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>>333730
Somewhere out there, an anon is seething that anons have gotten jobs instead of posting frequently.
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>>333733
I, too. 
Kind of expected to be living lavishly since before I had no income in comparison, but I'm just running circles in debt at the moment while pouring my life into work.
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>>333734
>anon seething that anons have gotten jobs
See this poses the very old question: What is a more valuable use of a man's time? To spend it in accumulating wealth and multiplying the material availability in society or rather to prioritize leisure and pursue artistic perfection, contemplation and study?
People with the mental capacity to hold worthwhile discussions or the imagination to produce beautiful things becoming too occupied with toils to make use of those gifts is a lamentable thing.
>>333737
The problem is that even though the second option is the best, you do need some measure of material success or wealth to be able to pursue those activities.
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>>333737
>>333738
The most maddening one: being intentionally denied the ability to work hard and trade time, to get the material wealth, to pursue the second. Also, nice digits.
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Too many hobbies online have been flooded with bullshit. I don't mean just trannies and bots, those only made things worse. But even before that, there were already lots of people using lawyer terms like "IP", or business terms like "franchise", when talking about games. And I don't mean they use it in very specific/narrow topics about copyright or whatever, they just use those terms casually all the time. It's a real downer, man.
Long ago when I was a kid, we never used those terms. We didn't even think in those terms, because we were 100% busy just playing the games and having fun. I copied so many games on floppy disks back in the day, without a single thought beyond "Oh yeah, more games!" And I never knew what someone was going to give me next, it was always a surprise. Most of these games I'd never even heard of, because my only news was some computer magazines, and I rarely bought those. And I played them all, no matter how good or bad they were. The only ones I ever deleted are those that crashed, either because of buggy code or a bad copy. Every game was precious to me, because unlike today there was no way to download entire sets of disk images. Whatever little I managed to get on the local sneakernet, that's all I had.
So it was more about the games (or other hobby) themselves, less about other bullshit, including their monetisation and endless youtube "personalities", etc.
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>>333737
>What is a more valuable use of a man's time?
Honestly life is shit. I say if you can put time into something that makes you happy then you have already won at life. The problem with the current times is that there are so many things out there that mask "feeling good" with being happy.
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>>333754
Hedonism is not the answer to life being challenging. The proof is an entire generation (boomers)  failing at it.
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>>333738
>The problem is that even though the second option is the best, you do need some measure of material success or wealth to be able to pursue those activities.
You can post about that... Just sayin...
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>>333703 (OP) 
> where did all the good anons go

Two are here (looking at you >>333730 and >>333737).
>>333789
You mean about my work? I guess I could, but frankly, it's so boring that I don't think anyone would care. Besides that, the idea of being doomed to wagecuck just makes me sad.
>>333703 (OP) 
It's been said before and I'll say it again. Modern imageboards, the webring included, are crab buckets of backbiting retards totally uninterested in discovering the truth or in having fun, only in being as miserable as possible. Combine that with actively hostile moderation, and you can get the picture. Most of the good anons aren't going to bother with shit like this; they're going to hang out in their own spaces or deal with IRL things. Most of the remainder are, as other anons have mentioned, either too busy or too apathetic to post and make OC. No OC = no life.
>>333752
6 year olds today are so consumerized, it's insane. You have small children who know every brand of clothes or phone or car.
This isn't healthy for the mind or the soul. 
Capitalism, it turned out, was not good.
>>333827
I feel that the average IQ has declined significantly. Perhaps it is because I grew but the percentage of seriously impaired people is extraordinary. And they get so angry all the time.
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Basically here lambda and lainchan. PPH is low so there's no point in posting now.
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>>333844
>PPH is low so there's no point in posting now.
>Still posts
Follow your own advise and fuck off doomnigger.
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>>333827
That's just the Internet as a whole, everything has gone downhill since the 90's. The bullshit started with the big coporations trying to monetise every click and track everyone, sell ads, etc. Then it only got worse as D&C politics infested everything after Occupy Wall Street.
BTW, I don't like the word "content", which you've abreviated as OC. We never said that in the 90's, on Internet or in the BBS scene. We just said message, post, information, and such. "Content" implies there's a producer making it (with all the associated legal ramifications), and there's a consumer consuming it. It's a very jewed way of looking at things, and I have no doubt this vocabulary was pushed by the big corporations, just like they pushed "platform" (which implies you need special FAGMAN service like facebook or twitter to communicate).
The point is, Ithis the enemy's vocabulary, and it's very insidious. If you allow them to control your vocabulary, then they control your communication, and thus your thoughts.
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>>333827
>Combine that with actively hostile moderation
What did moderation do to you?
>No OC = no life.
You make an important point here. Would you agree that it will bring more life to the board, since it will incentivize other anons to create OC as the snowball effect takes place? In other words, isn't OC a result of a lively board (honest question)?
>Modern imageboards, the webring included, are crab buckets of backbiting retards totally uninterested in discovering the truth or in having fun, only in being as miserable as possible.
Anon, how do you think we could overcome that?

I have been pondering if banning doomer anons would help by shifting the quality balance. I would appreciate if anons >>333730 and >>333737 could also give their takes on the last two questions.

/b/ might not be the most appropriate place to discuss this, as it is at the epicenter of the problem. If anons have a suggestion of where to follow up with it, I all ears.
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>>333703 (OP) 
I just got here. Whats up?
>>333730
There is a sense of exhaustion. Also, it gets tiring posting about something interesting, and getting mobbed by doomers. Its like no one wants to have fun and create anything anymore.
>>333827
There is also a lack of direction or goals. For me, I enjoyed the chans the most when there was a sense of celebration and appreciation of high culture, and also things discussed were to be utilized IRL. I'm not talking about political extremist shit, but there was the culture of self-improvement, for example.
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>>333846
I have been thinking about the vocabulary thing for a while, like how economic/business vocabulary is now used to discuss and describe everything.
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>>333833
The internet has lowered iq massively. You can see it online and irl. The lockdowns made it worse by forcing everyone towards social media.
sus thread
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>>333857
>sus
Among us isn't relevant anymore zoomer. Speak normal English.
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>>333858
Make me.
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>>333859
>Make me.
Already did.....you bloody wanker mate
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>>333851
People are still making things for fun. I just went to an old computer site (www.cpcgamereviews.com) today and found a bunch of new games out.  Apparently one of them used AI to port an old game (Snake-Pit) from a different computer. That seems very lame to me though, so I'll try to find the original BBC Micro game and play that one instead. I mean we're talking about a snake game, anybody can write their own in BASIC. Anyway I have a dim view of anyone trying to infect the retro scene with AI slop. There's too much of that shit everywhere already.

>>333852
One of my favorite parts was the bad amateur art in MS Paint or whatever. Yeah it sucked, but it was cool anyway because someone made it themselves.

>>333853
It's because the ones who control the levers of power consider us as economic units (at best), or even just cattle to be milked and slaughtered. Yeah, they don't even consider us to be the same species as them, basically.
And maybe also it serves the same purpose as brutalist architecture: to demoralise the public, make the feel small and helpless.
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>>333848
>takes on the last two questions.
>About the OC
Definitively people making cool stuff in the board is what draws people in and keeps them engaged. So anyone who wnats to do something about the low usercount should get busy doing producing attractive content.
>About the crab buckets
That's overstated, but I do believe there may be a thing with younger internet users having more of a spectator mentality and less of an inclination to just get whatever stupid stuff you came up with out there than there was in older times.
But I am optimistic, I believe that earnestly producing content and having a good time with whoever few valuable people are here to appreciate it is the way through which we eventually get more of those people. You know, the winds are what they are we can only set the sail and hope.
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>>333851
doomers suck
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The webring will endure.
ZZZChan will flourish.
We're all going to make it anon, don't worry.
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I told you a million times: it's the mentally ill. If jumping at shadows, incoherent schizobabble and chasing ghosts were an olympic disciplines, most of everyone here would be getting perfect 10s all around, sharing the podiums, and breaking world records. Sane people come here and go "miss me with that schizo shit" and skedaddle. This place is a digital open asylum.
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>>333884
lol no.
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>>333885
The cianiggers are after you for this post. Quick jump under a moving train to pwn them epic style!
we wuz kangs
we wuz da anonymooz
We wuz shoop da whoop firin muh lazors
>>333884
You say that as if it's a bad thing, schizophrenia is the lifeblood of IBs. A single suicidal sub-5 schizo is worth a thousand normies.
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>>333998
Most schizos are just maladaptive narcissists.
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>>333998
Suck my little cock
>>334002
Actually I meant to that cunt.
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>>334004
Which cunt?
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>>333879
Thank you for taking the time to answer.
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Were not getting younger, things happen, mostly bad things, sometimes small good things that keep us going, but mostly bad things and our health declines at a rapid pace.
I talked to an old buddy of mine a long time ago in a game i played regularly, he said he had cancer and couldnt afford meds, fuck knows what happened to the rest.
Point being the people who were cool, hip and young are now either old farts sick and dying due to years of unhealthy living, those still alive are either neeting into certain doom(like me), or wage slaving their asses off, some rare individuals got "successful" at life and got well paying jobs and families with well regulated lifestyles.
Many of the really cool dudes did years of alcohol and drug abuse, i myself got barely off the edge myself with a few scratches and as many dead friends as live ones left over the years.
I shudder to think of the fate of those many people i knew over the years and never heard from again, many suffered issues from depression to alcoholism, but how long can you hope to hold out against overwhelming odds, at a long enough timeline everyones chances of survival drops to zero.
Its horrifying to think about how many good souls logged off for good and are now lost in whatever realm they reside in, the old internet was comfy as fuck.

Time is not on anyones side, sad as it is, but there are still good times to be had for those whos fire still was not quenched.
Despite all the pressure and attempts against people like us from normgroids and glowies alike, we are somehow still alive and what is worse, in a fucked up way we are "winning" what is in essence a spiritual war waged across all existence.
Dont give in to the gloom and doom, things are real shitty but be glad to witness them for we may never see such a shitshow in the universe ever again and we might be the last souls to watch it trough to the end and say: "we kept fucking telling them", this is truly epic in a pathetic cosmic joke kind of way.
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>>334046
Times like these will be looked back on by historians (if this isn't the final chapter for mankind, anyway) who will write about it in books dedicated to how woefully stupid it is/was. Those who read about it will shake their heads in disbelief. Some won't believe it at all, like high schoolers reading about the Bolsheviks shooting people in the streets while normalfag citizens trundled off to their jobs in traffic, ignoring the atrocities performed right in front of them.
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>>333852
> For me, I enjoyed the chans the most when there was a sense of celebration and appreciation of high culture, and also things discussed were to be utilized IRL. I'm not talking about political extremist shit, but there was the culture of self-improvement, for example.
Me too.

The biggest impediment to sustain something like this is moderation. High culture implies hierarchy, and hierarchy implies selectivity. But in a doors open environment like imageboards, the signal to noise ratio gets vastly skewed towards noise. On the other hand, gatekept environments might have more initial stability, but they are more prone to stagnation, given that the mechanisms put in place to sustain the hierarchy often prevent necessary renewal.
>>334092
I don't know.
>>334092
It's likely due to less people with knowledge/interest in image boards.
Hierarchy that's open works, newcomers are just newfags that start at the bottom. (Lurk more)
This topic again. 
I can assure Op and any other dimwit that its been discussed to death. Anons have moved on or are atomised irl or in specific apps.
People may wish to deconstruct the concept of imageboard entropy and its real, reflective in modern society but its dead man. Look at 4chan, its dead despite the botting. 
Just let it go.
>>334092
>things discussed were to be utilized IRL.
Yeah, when forums focus about IRL stuff and not opinions, news, celebrities it become more real.
Threads of people posting photos of stuff they bought or find out is always fun.
>The biggest impediment to sustain something like this is moderation. High culture implies hierarchy, and hierarchy implies selectivity. 
I concur. Saw stable places going to trash in other websites over the years, it's like a a tree, if you cut the diseased and dead branches it grows, if you don't it rots.
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>>334099
>it's like a a tree, if you cut the diseased and dead branches it grows, if you don't it rots.
Good analogy.
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There is a strangely persistent initiative from some "anons" in painting imageboards as dead... So far I have regarded it as just doomers dooming, but the effort they put in is really starting make them appear like shills.
>>334123
I fucking know, right. They are smashing against the walls  of convictions harder lately.
>>334123
they just want something like 4chan, constant flow of posts, whether quality or not, doesn't matter, anything other than that to them it's dead.
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>>334123
It's not only on imageboards, in general people are accepting way too easy the nihilism of being doomers or whatever, in the end they are annoying like a Rick Morty fan saying "nothing matters" like they had a giant breakthrough. 
If imageboards were dead people wouldn't be on these places posting "this place is dead".
Unless a place is getting 404 or a 4XX / 5XX error it's not dead. I believe that there are tons of anons that could post good things and collaborate to create something even better.
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>>333703 (OP) 
It might seem dead to you but if you compare it to other image boards it’s the most alive thing in the world
>>334152
They would be much happier lurking xitter then.
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>>334153
> billions must smile
hehehehe
A recovered chud edit, good job anon.
>>334172
https://archive.is/pN5B8#selection-15665.0-15675.1
They will be reminded of who you are.
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>>334123
I've probably made a lot of the posts that you're thinking of. Things have gotten a bit better, but I attribute that to the competition shitting the bed as of late. Especially with all that age verification nonsense that the angloids have been trying to push.
>>334175
That was one of the least disruptive schizos out of all of them, obsessed rageaholic.
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>>334177
That was literally a reply to said schizo.
>least disruptive
Because you hardly ever saw his posts because joyeuse nuked them out of orbit in less than five minutes most of the time. With him out of the picture, there's no telling what the fuck will happen if he decided to start posting more than once a week.
He posted daily for two years straight.
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>>334178
Yeah I know, but even when his posts weren't deleted, he still fit the bill of being "the least disruptive" for how incredibly petty and easily dismissed his spam was and how it was only contained here compared to numerous other insane attention whores who would try to consensus crack the entire website with much more thought put into it.
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>>334180
>how it was only contained here
He's not intelligent enough to understand that there are other places than this place.
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>>334183
Well there you go then, and yet rageaholic neets would still give him the time of day despite that.
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>>334187
He's not the kind of schizo that one can just ignore. Joyeuse tried that for months before finally giving in. He didn't do anything other than to call him an illiterate brain damaged spic, worse than the people he had to deal with when he worked with special needs people. Because apparently he had done that.
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>>334193
>He's not the kind of schizo that one can just ignore. Joyeuse tried that for months before finally giving in.
Then he could have just deleted his posts quietly without the needless public displays of avarice and lack of composure in the log messages every single day.
>He didn't do anything other than to call him an illiterate brain damaged spic
To make matters worse than just leaving resentful log messages, he didn't have to interact with such a petty and unsophisticated spammer at all, and he got way more involved than what you claim.
>worse than the people he had to deal with when he worked with special needs people. Because apparently he had done that.
Another thing too, he didn't need to be attention whoring about himself like that and with other pieces of vapid information and personal statements.
He was a crazy bitch through and through and evidently he left kicking and screaming going so far as sending reports to the FBI out of spite.
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All these types of faults one could have are so lame and low brow as well, like, how did he even find this place?
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>>334222
>Then he could have just deleted his posts quietly without the needless public displays of avarice and lack of composure in the log messages every single day.
Even other moderators left information in the log, stating that the deleted and banned post belonged to the wheels schizo.
>he didn't have to interact with such a petty and unsophisticated spammer at all
He left a thread specifically for him to shit up, and the guy is too retarded to stick to it.
>and he got way more involved than what you claim.
Because he decided to target him in turn.
https://archive.ph/7ZcTY
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>>334223
>how did he even find this place?
He came here through a sharty raid. He displays similar behavior to shartyfags, and shares a lot of their philosophies, except you can tell that he's somehow more retarded than just a soyjak poster.
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>>334229
>Even other moderators left information in the log, stating that the deleted and banned post belonged to the wheels schizo.
Yeah, but they weren't obviously emotional messages like how his were.
>Because he decided to target him in turn.
Normal people don't lose their shit over spics.
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>>334234
>Normal people don't lose their shit over spics.
They eventually do, if they see it over, and over, and over again, for, again, let me remind you, two years, daily. Not even missing christmas and new years eve.
https://archive.is/TaQRm#selection-1357.0-1357.32 Attempts to deflect from that in https://archive.ph/uvmpZ
https://archive.ph/e8lAy#selection-5047.0-5047.6
<but joyeuse wasn't even a mod for that long
Even the short amount of time that he did moderate, he became nuts from seeing it so often. I don't blame him.
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>>334238
Skill issue.
joyeuse lost
>>334238
>Even the short amount of time that he did moderate, he became nuts from seeing it so often. 
It wasn't a short amount of time, it was a year and a half and he was already nuts from the beginning.
>I don't blame him.
You would be a shitty mod just like him then.
>>334263
Cp seller has been around recently.
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>>334269
>Cp seller has been around recently.
Yes
What sort of things will people do for money anon... Albeit me thinks he is more likely to be from a sweatshop.
>>333851
Its a huge problem. Also we have some people in here who despise the medium itself. Like really ill-willed towards any common recommendation, topic. Even the userbase itself.

Another thing is the internet is basically unusable nowadays thanks to bots and turd worlders. There are only a few places left. Everyone being desperate for money nowadays just adds fuel to the fire.

>>333844
Why not end it all? 

>>333884
Nothing is crazier than my peenus weenus.
Nothing is crazier than my peenus weenus.
My peenus weenus is going nuts. AAAAAAAAAAAA
There is no escape from my peenus weenus.
Nothing is crazier than my peenus weenus.
Nothing is crazier than my peenus weenus.
There is no escape from my peenus weenus.
My peenus weenus is going nuts. AAAAAAAAAAAA
There is no escape from my peenus weenus.
My peenus weenus is going nuts. AAAAAAAAAAAA
There is no escape from my peenus weenus.
Nothing is crazier than my peenus weenus.
My peenus weenus is going nuts. AAAAAAAAAAAA
My peenus weenus is going nuts. AAAAAAAAAAAA
There is no escape from my peenus weenus.

Nigger, you are on the nonsense board! If you really think paranoid lunatics care about a place such as this, you are mad yourself. 

>>334046
The old internet has just gone underground. Too bad for us that it was some federation protocol that tickled its pickle. 

>>334234
> Normal people don't lose their shit over spics.
Normalfags on the everything website are losing their shit over jeets and are celebrating every deportation. Its the edgelords of old who can't perceive the all the improvements.
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>>334352
There's actually no real people here. There's only a bunch of anonymous entities that post gibberish and say nigger all day.
$ man gcc|wc
    20303    114322    964405
Niggerlicious!
>>334373
>There's actually no real people here
Define real people. The world ended in 2007.
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>>334373
That's pretty much every imageboard. The culture is dead and infested with bots, low iq retards and anons looking for a home in this corrupt cesspit known as the internet.
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>>334375
>The culture is dead
Please, the culture is alive and well, it just that portions of it consists of niggers who love bitching about how bad culture is, alongside a healthy dose of ((( totally organic ))) posters who help them promote that sentiment.
>>334377
Those niggers ruined everything in the first place. It just is the way things are now they simply exist to just ruin things by existing.
They can pretend the 360/ps3/wii days were amazing all they want but they weren't even conscious to begin with. 
Even so all the talented people who existed to make things simply aren't around anymore or won't get funded
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>>334374
It was 2012, the Mayans knew way before.
>>334377
Culture changes, people want to go back but there is no back to go.
That old website saved on a .txt ages ago is dead, the geocities you liked unarchived, your myspace places gone, that online flash game never seen before, the java applet weird stuff, the flash shockwave ones.... same as the old mall in the neighbor town, that park full of trees with the old couple shop nearby, the weird circus that always went to town, the amusement park full of trash rides....
But it's ok, it's not the end, you will find new stuff and have fun on then, try not to look at the past sad that you can't go back but happy that it happened.
If you don't lose your sense of wonder, you can always go back to being happy as a child.
>>333703 (OP) 
They left, and 0 new anons came in, just like you wanted. This is what you wanted.
Just a while ago there was a big discussion about the future of zzzchan and how to make it more lively, the /meta/ thread is probably still there, and everyone collectively decided that nothing should change and absolutely no new people should come in.
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>>333703 (OP) 
>omegle death
>imageboards le kill
>all that censoring on places like reddit and jewtube and shadowbans and etc
1/6 of us are now statistically shown to haven an AI companion. 
https://github.com/Heretikio/aipi-lite-selfhost
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>>334394
This probably won't work for most Anons even if it gets better because it will just try to act like a real foyim unless there is a custom model based on anime using subtitles.
As for actual friendship simulation that is another challenge in itself and is hard to differentiate asskissing and just endless negativity and spouting nigger.
>Somewhere out there some retard paid thousands of dollars for a sex doll to have it reject them
>Only thing he can do is return it or rape it into submission.
>>334373
That's the most mad person statement ITT. 

>>334377
The totally organic posters aren't even Jewish. They simply suck. As shit as /b/ always had been, it started out as brainless humor board for all your stupid shitposts with some serious discussions sprinkled. ...

Please don't overdo the latter. This isn't the original /int/ board.

>>334394
I would create nothing but racist GWs who like lolis and gore. No thanks.
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>>333703 (OP) 
The Indian stock market crashed after the current administration b& the likes of Cognizat from the PERM program. That was cool and fascinating.  Here, have some stuff from /a/ folder as well.
>>334394 (me)
>actually went and bought the pro version of the 'dog'/drone/toy
>it came broken
>spent 190ish on all three for no reason
>could have gotten a new powerful Android cell and put MLC CHAT on it for that price
>drone does not have a vendor for properly shaped replacement blades
>the blades are literally made to brake 
>alread broke one on day one and only have one more replacement blade
>will probably never set up my own server to run the AIPI locally 
>the battery not fitting the back of the AIPI properly makes it shitty 
>Loona had been on sale for 380 usd 
<I have carpet and it'll get stuck and need subscription some day possibly.. should not do it when what I have is the same thing but 'better' and cheaper, modular and clever and cheap :D
>now it's 500 usd again
>the thing came BROKEN
>not so clever
>will probably keep the UFO, AIPI, and get another drone instead
>will have to make it myself at this point
>know will never take the time to do this
>tempted to send it all back and just continue waiting for actually good products to be made that are in my price range
>will die by the time it's good as when robots are cheap like that we'll be replaced and thus be dead
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