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>>262610 (OP) 
Mostly pointless vanity, if not strictly corrective surgery. And a way to propagate misery into future generations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluctuating_asymmetry

I think of it the same way as makeup: there's cool things that can be done with it and it's not an inherently bad as a tool, but by far the most prevalent use case is to lie in your resume for dating purposes and trick someone into thinking that you're more valuable than you actually are.

In day-to-day life it's a tool for dishonesty and lying.

Guess it depends on how disfigured I'd get. I think fake tits, fake lips, fake ass, nose jobs, the type of facial shit that orientals do, etc. are all incredibly vain. However, if I had half my face mauled off by a grizzly bear, I might consider getting plastic surgery (though, I recall a woman having her face torn off by a large dog and they used skin from her ass for facial reconstruction, so maybe they don't use plastic surgery for such things; her face was very puffy and strange-looking too).

Surgery should be illegal unless you are dying or something is seriously wrong

>>262615
Replacing those lost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_muscles
is not trivial. Even if passable without moving, that means uncanny valley with every facial expression.

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>>262612
>And a way to propagate misery into future generations.
Are you talking about setting unrealistic standards? 

>>262613
That's pretty much how I feel about makeup. I find it to be extremely dishonest, as well as gross. 

>>262623
Don't you think that's a bit extreme? 

Something else that's interesting about the show is hearing peoples' stories and seeing their psychology. Like, there was this one lady who had both her breasts removed with a double mastectomy because she had breast cancer on one side and decided it would be safer to have them both gone. She phrased this as "kicking cancer's ass", but in reality, she really had nothing to do with it. It was the knife that did the work, yet she felt compelled to take credit for it. I don't think that's completely narcissistic, but I think there is a bit of ego and fear involved - she wanted to feel like she wasn't some helpless victim to the condition, I suppose. 

Nip/Tuck was another good show about plastic surgery, albeit a fictional one.

>>262800
>Don't you think that's a bit extreme?
Not really, Women shouldn't be allowed to have surgery to make themselves look better neither do I want  a surgery to make my penis bigger or make me taller.
Surgery is almost always vain and dumb and often makes people look worse because they are incapable of looking outwards.
Like most women  put make up on their face and do their lashes and it makes them look like fake whores.

If a girl I knew who had small tits got surgery to make them bigger I would be immediately turned off and just walk away the opposite is also true big tits being made smaller.

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 >>262610 (OP) 
Its like an abortion

>>262800
No, I talk about condoning fugliness because it can be temporarily fixed. Genetics doesn't lie and the same fugliness manifests itself again in the next generation.

>>262801
>Women shouldn't be allowed to have surgery to make themselves look better neither do I want  a surgery to make my penis bigger or make me taller.
Do you think it should also be illegal for men, or is it just women you would restrict? 

>Like most women  put make up on their face and do their lashes and it makes them look like fake whores.
I agree, but at the same time, it's not really changing the character of the woman. The only people who really fooled are simps and people are going to simp, regardless - same thing applies to surgery. 

>If a girl I knew who had small tits got surgery to make them bigger I would be immediately turned off and just walk away the opposite is also true big tits being made smaller.
Eh, I mean, women and some men like when guys alter their bodies by getting muscles, abs, etc. You can also do those jaw exercises to get a better developed line. So, since muscles on women is very subjective in terms of beauty, things like tit jobs seem like one of their few recourses to alter their body to be more attractive. There's basically only one other way for a woman to make her breasts bigger and that's by getting fat. Which is the lesser evil to you?

>>262803
It's not at all like an abortion. 

>>262804
>No, I talk about condoning fugliness because it can be temporarily fixed.
Fair enough. 

>Genetics doesn't lie and the same fugliness manifests itself again in the next generation.
Not necessarily, what if one parent had an overbite and the other had an underbite? Their kids might just have normal jaws and chins.

>>263192
Hypothetically assuming the simplest type of inheritance, codominant single gene (both defective alleles are dominant to the normal "wild" one, but counteracting each other). If both parents are heterozygotic regarding that problem, you will have 25% of kids without either, half with either of them (divided into 25% with each separately), and 25% phenotypically normal, but carrying both defects, so they will manifest a generation later instead. In 3 out of 4 cases the genetic problem will persist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punnett_square

>>263192
>Do you think it should also be illegal for men, or is it just women you would restrict? 
Both to be fair, Unless the dude has a micro dick no one unironically wants a micro dick.
>Which is the lesser evil to you?
That's hard to choose between. But to be frank women should realize their biggest appeal is not their body but their personality and interests but having big strong legs is definitely something girls should realize is a turn on for guys instead of just thinking big fat ass.

>>263194
You can also try the scenario with both parents being homozygotic regarding recessive alleles, but then  the results would be even worse in that configuration, because their kids would be all carriers of both deformities without showing them at all. Kicking the can down the alley, metaphorically.

>>263200
What 'might' fix it for some carriers is randomly recombining both the faulty parts to produce an allele with both defects and one reverting to the wild version, but this type of DNA recombination is something as likely as winning a lottery. Not necessarily the main prize, but still less than 1% chance each generation. I word it vaguely because it's hard to estimate it more closely. Even then it won't eliminate the problem, just shuffle it differently.