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in4:
>In reality it's gnu/linux.
Don't know personally, I don't do programming, but my personal experience is that the whole "download 142.341 out of 232.422 libraries in order to achieve basic functionality" feels clunky as hell.

>Use a completely different operating system
>Have to learn how to use it
>Cry about it
Are you a woman?

>>262374
Linux programs have less capabilities than Windows programs and need to use less comfortable keyboard hotkeys because the system reserves way more basic hotkeys so the program can't use them.

Linux is for people who want to use an operating system, Windows is for people who want to run programs and do things with programs.

>>262382
Windows is for people who like to not own their hardware and have their software cuck them

I don't get why this happens. I installed artix linux (because fuck systemd) and I haven't had these issues. Maybe it's because I set everything up to my liking? What distro are you using OP?
You are changing to a completely different OS. You are used to things working in another way, so of course you will have a learning curve to deal with.

>>262386
I value my ability to get things done more than my ability to disable automatic updates and then constantly update it manually anyway.

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>normal text editing keybinds are reserved for some retarded system commands
Which keybinds do you have problems with?
Which distro?
What desktop environment have you installed?
What text editor?
>linuxfags deepthroat weird ass editors
Plenty of us use regular notepad clone GUI editors

>>262369 (OP) 
How is nano a weird editor you retard?
>>262382
I just want a personal computer that I can use for surfing the web and watching pirated media without getting digital AIDS and having to deal with corpo faggotry

>>262390
OP has to be lying or hes too ashamed to admit he got filtered by a distro not meant for newbs
>Have no real practical time on linux
>Decades of using windoze
>Fedora KDE takes 5 minutes to get used to 
>Functionally practically the same but better

>>262392
He probably is complaining about vim, which, if you haven't EVER used it anywhere, I could understand having a problem with.

>>262394
No matter what editor you name, literally no matter which one, someone will shout out how it was your fault for picking that one instead of some other one.

>>262397
Really you should be just posting a ghetto kid with a laptop he paid 4k for.
>ayo learning is haarddd

>>262398
>OS that requires you to learn a ton of things is better than OS that doesn't
An idiot admires complexity etc.

>>262400
>I'm too retarded to crack a nut so nuts are bad

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>>262401
>food analogy

>>262402
Keep eating your fruits and get cancer  from your negro  jobs

>>262373
Leenoox is for suicidal bisexual politically deranged NEETs.

>>262422
If that were true there would be more more users

i use windows 10 because linux lacks compatibility with the programs i use and games i play
and even then, Win10 has lacking compatibility with some of the older titles i like, so i'm planning on downgrading to windows 7

>>262435
There's only a handful of games that don't work on Linux nowadays and they're essentially all multiplayer kiddy kasinos outside of really obscure weeb trash that wasn't even worth playing in windoze 
>programs
Like what? there's probably an alternative you can use if it doesn't work on Linux.

>>262435
Windows 7 has very bad support for everything because all the game engines and web browsers started using Windows 10 exclusive APIs. Anything that uses one of those no longer works, which means basically everything because 99% of modern games use a game engine and 99% of modern software including Steam are just google chrome with some scripts on top.

>>262369 (OP) 
linux is for edgy autistic kids in the 90s who go around launching hadoukens and running with airplane arms
*that* is why they spend 500 hours learning vim/emacs which have no concrete benefits and the entire ecosystem is a pile of scat ADHD slop with each program having 0.5% emacs support and 0.7% vim support, or one of 5 different GUI toolkits (kde, gnome, fltk, etc). they cant even explain concretely what security is. they think prefixing commands with sudo is protecting them from getting hacked somehow but cant actually explain it because it would unwind the pile of horse shit assumptions tehy wrongly adopted from their autism club

really, theres nothing more to say than its a demographic of invalid fuckjobs
its like how the first time i heard "stop eating seed oils" without knowing who said it, i immediately knew  this is some fuckwad whose taking ivermectin and "investing in silver" or whatever such bullshit that will never make a difference in his life

>>262444
That's a lot of projection.

lmao filtered by text editing

>>262440
As someone using Windows 7 right now, you can game some of it by copying dlls around for newer directx which will work if the game demands new directx but only uses old directx functions (works for some games) but a lot of shit will indeed not work and Steam is no longer supporting if you care about that. You're better off installing (Gentoo) Linux.

>>262465
>copying dlls around for newer dx
>a lot of shit will not work
That's a lot of effort for a worse experience than both Linux and Cancer 11 Open Pilot

>>262444
Nice retard trips.

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>>262422
Dubs of Truth.
>>262444
Trips of Wisdom.
>>262451
Sage of Seethe.

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Which keybinds do you have problems with?
Which distro?
What desktop environment have you installed?
What text editor?

>>262439
>there's probably an alternative you can use if it doesn't work on Linux
none of which suits my interests. and i don't want to troubleshoot any more than i do with already win10 if something inevitably goes wrong.
>because 99% of modern games and programs will not be accessible 
thankfully, nothing of value will be lost.

>>262508
*Especially with programs i have far less familiarity with over those I've used for years.

>>262369 (OP) 
>linux
>reserved system commands
Changing your OS won't cure your brain damage

>>262522
Sadly the truth, Linux isn't even remotely hard to use it's like using inverted camera controls it takes 3 seconds to get used to unless you are just brain damaged which then it takes months.

>>262474
It's a better experience than Cancer 11 Open Pilot you fucking faggot. And I have some legacy Windows shit that lets me OC with my old-ass motherboard that needs Windows for some fucking reason. Windows 7 is okay, but also I'm contemplating installing Gentoo over Slackware as the other OS on my rig. I'm kind of fed up with slackbuilds.

>>262523
>bro you can change 15 years of programming muscle memory in 3 seconds brooo
I can tell that you don't do anything useful with your computer.

>>262529
All the choices in the world and you still chose to be a niggerfaggot who failed at step 1

>>262528
What will you do when your old hardware expires? You will be forced to run new one on w11, maybe also a virtual system with 97, xp or w7 just to play old games, like dosbox does for dos games.

I'll be honest, i gave up on setting up mint the moment external drives got involved

>>262530
Step 1: lower your standards by 5000%

>>262534
Woman mentality just complain and cry until   someone spoon feeds you as to why you are a retard and still dismiss it

>>262535
Just like a woman chooses a superior man over you, I choose a superior OS over Linux.

>>262536
>chooses 
>a superior man
They choose a cat.

>>262538
>cucked by a cat
Lmao

>>262541
>Make up game with insane and retarded rules
>Rage quit when you start losing when the other player refuses to play
>Even when other game creators play by optimal meta
All in all  it is just sour grapes.

>>262544
>game with insane and retarded rules
But enough about Linux.

>>262556
You can't even read let alone figure out what we're talking about
I would suggest going back to school but you might end up even more retarded

>>262531
This PC is over 12 years old and still running great.

Also, I will either run Linux or OpenBSD. Ain't no way in fucking hell I'm installing Win11. I'd sooner install fucking ReactOS (an open-source Windows clone that is still in fucking alpha after 30 years of development).

>>262593
Mine begins glitching after a decade. I wish you luck.

>>262596
If I get a new PC, it won't be because the old one broke down but because I felt like splurging on a high-end machine. It still does everything mid-end machines do great.

>>262369 (OP) 
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>>262529
Most of the basement dwellers here use computers for either gaming or Web surfing, these twinks don't get that many of us are forced to use proprietary software for our jobs.

There is no point in arguing with actual homosexuals.

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>>262369 (OP) 
>anon wants to be a programmer
>but he can't even learn how to use a fucking text editor
Anon, I've got bad news for your aspirations of being a programmer. You're gonna end up Pajeet-tier and replaced by ChatGPT.

>>262818
You won't even have a job soon enough that you can even bicker about muh proprietary software
like who honestly gives a fuck and even so using your home computer as your workstation is niggertastic

>>262369 (OP) 
Install a real ide like vscodium

>Windows user
<Yankee Buck
>Linux user
<Southern Buck Breaker
>Mac user
<European nobility ostensibly using the same principles as the Linux user, but they moved into a mansion on the east coast in a quiet neighborhood of similarly wealthy clientele when >emigrating to the new world for the >adventure and "liberty" from wealthy European customs or something
>BSD user
<European nobility that headed westwards and embraced the frontier lifestyle, now acts much like a Linux user but with a much higher baseline education and training for skills not found in most selfmade frontiersmen.
>ZX Spectrum user
<The war for independence ended over 100 years ago and the UK did not emerge as its victor.

>>263123
<nobility
>comparisons ignoring the hardware performance problems
Fits with the idea of later generations of nobility losing any touch with the qualities that made them nobility in the first place.

>>263124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFnfcxhNnA

>>262506
>didn't name the file "nyonsense"
Missed opportunity

>>263140
>not nyasense

>>263124
>hardware performance problems
Did Crapple shoot itself in the foot there as well?
Everyone knows Windows 10+ runs like absolute dogshit on anything that isn't some proprietary NvidAIfaggotry that can't be run on Linux due to DRM, but I thought the Apple clubs still kept their climate-friendly reusable dildoes largely smooth if not entirely clean.

>>263575
Apple PCs are designed to break down on you and require you to buy in to the Apple ecosystem, which for a variety of reasons many people are not into these days.

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I recently upgraded my PC substantially, migrating my Linux installation to a new board amounted to plugging in the drives then reconfiguring the bootloader via live image chroot, after that was done everything just werked.
How does this compare to doing the same on Windows 10/11?

>>263606
It's easier to install Linux than Windows because there's no online nonsense or having to uncheck spyware options then having to still use extra software to undo the cancer
>hardware unsupported if you have an old computer despite it being functional
>having to bypass online account requirements by some means

>>263606
>reconfiguring the bootloader via live image chroot
Why do you need to do this autism? If you install Windows it just works.

>>263707
>Why do you need to do this autism? 
Because the UUIDs of the partitions changed and he has more than 1 disk. If that weren't the case, he could have just pressed the power button and everything would have worked (without having to use Live environment or doing reinstall).

>If you install Windows it just works.
According to Microsoft, you need to reinstall Windows if you upgrade your CPU. You don't need to do that, if you are on GNU+Linux because Linux won't get confused.

>>263707
>If you install Windows it just works.
<If you install Windows it just works... against you.

>>263730
>mp4
And that's not even including installing windows without a Microsoft account or installing GPU drivers without bloat.
>Mouse acceleration is still something you have to check if it's on
Can someone just take the monkeys who update windows in the shed back doors and scream ol yeller

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>>263720
>you need to reinstall Windows if you upgrade your CPU.
When was that put into practice?
I did a CPU upgrade back in CY+1 and W10 at the time didn't complain about anything.

>>263744
He probably replaced his motherboard which set it off.

>>262369 (OP) 
because they're autistic hipster who need to feel special

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the quality of open source can be summed up by looking at foobar2000 vs the non-existent open source bullshit alternatives. they can't even write a music player

>>263744
w10 is just pure malware, meanwhile xp or one around that time would fuck up if you change any hardware or 2 hardware items without asking bill gates if its okay

>>263793
reddit ass anime

>>263707
Because you're setting up multiple operating systems on your computer. Otherwise you can just autoconfig it and not give a fuck.

>>263793
Okay fubar faggot.
>non existent
>strawberry music player
>rhythmbox
>can play it through terminal
>can use vlc or mpv

>>263798
And to add extra insult
>DeaDBeeF

those are all fucking garbage.
>mpv
we're talking about music players you autistic fuck. of course you come in here with your "bro just type in the file name and path" faggotry
>vlc
what the fuck am i even reading
>terminal
that's a bad thing. you are confused because you're used to using baby shit in the web browser and terminal looks fast compared to that. 
>deadbeef
never heard of it + autistic reference ergo trash

>>263805
it's the exact same type of autistic shit you already use

>>263806
you cannot apply the autism insult correctly (to the point where im not even sure what youre saying here)
always these retarded faggots
you were already the biggest fucking moron for using rythmbox as a counterexample to open source being plagued with garbage.
youre a fucking waste of my time.

>>263809
Not my problem btw foobar 2000 is a autistic reference so die in a trash fire

>>263810
Is foobar really that bad? Never used it, but thought it was lightweight.

thank you.

I like the audacious audio player.

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>>263811
foobar2000 is a perfect fully featured GUI program that linux doesn't have a lot of. It's proprietary tough which means at some point a company might buy the brand to put ads and tracking in like utorrent. That's why I like FOSS, I know there's no spyware in it and there's no way they can pull a sneaky with an update.

You know what? It's fine that you don't get it, it's not meant for you, but then leave and don't whine about it not being made for you. There is already enough turbofaggots wanting to know the best way to run Discord or Steam on their Linux systems, who shouldn't be using it anyways. Soon Linux will be in the same state of decay as Bitcoin, where all the people using it are interested in monetary gain and finance speculations, and not in having a P2P/decentralized, free as in free speech currency. The same applied to Linux is faggots running Linux because they watch a Pewdiepie/Linus Tech Tips video for any other reason than software freedom and the ability to hack the software.