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A lot of members of the younger generations were never really permitted to grow up. You mature when you take on responsibility for things (which also necessarily entails having power/control over them).
But the young have been pretty systematically locked out of positions of real influence. The olds keep an iron grip on most of that.
The other aspect is that a lot of maturity arises out of necessity when you're responsible to/for other people--particularly your wife/children. Family formation is so commonly delayed, or in many cases never even happens, that a lot of people are missing the growth and maturation that comes with it.

>>251171
As a non-family haver myself, I can see that.

>>251168 (OP) 
We are always mentally children, evolution had no need of making the mental status of an adult as of yet

>An adult
>Normal
I don't know what any of this means.

>>251176
No idea, tbh. It's just that 45% of other adults I know are obsessed with this and talk non-stop about it. Another 45% or so talk incessantly about their job. Only around 10% are not insufferable. 

> i felt like an adult since 14 or so
How does it feel?

>>251168 (OP) 
I feel like an old man the way my life went for the past 15 years.
You're not more mature than them. They are just normalcattle. You have similar inane conversations about other dumb shit.

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>>251168 (OP) 
I've never felt like an adult, I don't feel like an adult, and I'm likely never going to feel like an adult.
I am a child, stuck in a chronologically adult mans body.
>I'm 27 years old and I own a house and pay bills and work
Get a load of this guy. Working and then complaining that you don't feel like an adult? And a house on top of that.
You're further along on the path to adulthood than a lot of people are.
> I find myself bewildered and frankly disgusted by the complexities and hypocrisies of "adult life."
It can't have been that complex hundreds of years ago. It probably wasn't supposed to be that complex.
>Are the boomers right
The boomers aren't right about anything; look no further than the results of their lives, and what the later generations have to deal with as a result.
>why have we not created a society where being an adult is in line with our natural dispositions, and thus this problem wouldn't happen?
Kids? Creating a society?

9 times out of 10 when somebody is talking about "maturity" online it's a cope for being low testosterone.

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I'm turning 36. Feel like a kid compared to me?
I don't own a house. Feel like a kid compared to me?
I don't have a job. Feel like a kid compared to me?
I'll have wasted 20 NEET years. Feel like a kid compared to me?
"This year will be different!" ad infinitum.

If you don't feel like an adult because of interactions with your elders, it's only natural because boomers think of and refer to their youngers as "kid." Every adult is "fake it till you make it," and to make it is to forget the awkward period of faking it Do something long enough and it becomes second nature. Can't forget? Give yourself brain damage to become an adult. Talk to boomers at your own peril, their only knowledge nuggets are for a totally different game than the one you're playing. Your disinterest in small talk is an unrelated issue. Join the gay nerd club to obtain conversations you desire.

>>251221
That's true. Most of the time, "be more mature" is a code word for, " shut up and agree with my batshit insane political ideas"

>>251237
It's not a competition, friend.
I am better off than you, yet I still feel like I'm a kid who wandered off from my parents. Nothing seems real. Maybe I'm fucked up somehow. Do you feel like you've finally become an adult?

>>251168 (OP) 
I don't think fixating over this simple concept is a good starting point it's pretty meaningless. 

When you lose your inner child you can lose a large part of your identity and risk becoming an actual npc. I would say that typically that is something others, like a woman/child/bad situations and responsibilities can take away from you, they shouldn't never be allowed to. 

Listen to your inner child and nurture it but also cultivate who you are "as an adult". There is a balance. Being young and not feeling like an adult is fine, but being a manchild(not in the vain roastie sense) is not good either. You must accept who you are and roll with it, what you want from life is what matters, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>251255
My intention wasn't to be competitive.
My intention was to hammer home how silly you're being.
I take no pride being a gold medalist in the loser olympics.

I'm an adult who never became an adult. My physical decay is very apparent. My mental decay is very apparent. Not relating to adults doesn't make me feel like a kid. I don't relate to kids either. I don't have any concrete childhood memories left but I know I didn't feel or think as I do now. I'm less than a kid but all adults are less than kids. I don't know the best way to put it. I can't visualize dreams any more. When I do dream, which is rare, it's an intense, physical feeling that startles me awake, such as pushing all my teeth loose with my tongue and rattling them around in my mouth.

It's all happening but none of it's real. You're halfway there by not feeling genuine. You just need to become comfortable with that feeling. To be genuine as an adult is to invite harm upon yourself. Only kids are allowed to be genuine. Adult life is faking contentment. Powerword Internet is faking success and happiness. Pseudonymous and Anonymous Internet is faking niceness or rudeness or intellect or stupidity, et cetera, depending upon your choice of hangout. You're not fucked up but you've been conditioned to want to be fucked up. Everyone has been conditioned to want to be fucked up. I've failed at life but I'm not fucked up, if I were I wouldn't be able to send you this message.

>>251258
idk, I just feel like I've been adrift since college. I actually have the financial security and a home but I'd trade it all to be a kid again. 
Now, my parents died so I do have emotional priors that color my perspective. Yet I have this sense that I feel less comfortable with my roles than should be normal. 

>>251273
All I can say is, that sucks.
Seems like you feel dead inside. Did anything happen to cause this or is this the result of NEETing for however long you did? I'm genuinely curious.

>>251171
Bullseye friend.

>>251168 (OP) 
I feel I have matured a lot in the past 4 years just from what I've suffered (being targeted with harassment in my head and IRL). So I'll say past generations used to suffer more unpleasant things than newer generations, and that made them more mature.

>>251168 (OP) 
You have to experience danger.

>>251168 (OP) 
I felt old by 19, like I had been alive for far too long, and went gray by 17, and are now in my 30s and have health problems and nightmares every night/day. Oh well for me, lucky you. 

Boomers blame shift also. Fuck boomers. They let the ball drop hard, though you have to go back far to get to the real problem, jews in Ancient Rome. 

>>251177
Labels are fun. It's like a gold star, or a trophe, but you don't actually get rich over it, just pretentious.

>>251349
Shit that is the crux to solve infantile modern living, a little adrenaline and boldness.  Now it's all so dependent on systems taking care of you despite not even knowing how they work, and generations groomed by colleges to follow civil order and boost economy for the sake of the state.  Everything is fake and gay, the only thing real is the relationships between family, friends, and nation.

>>251356
>>251349
True. It's important to remember that before the industrial revolution, the general mortality rate meant that by the age of 25 you'd have seen a significant number of your close friends/family die. Not of violence necessarily but,
<Man in his 20s in the year 2025
<Hometown attacked by bandits
>OH GOD HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? PEOPLE ARE DYING! WHERE ARE THE POLICE
<Man in his 20s in the year 1098
<Hometown attacked by bandits
>God damned Vikings, not again! Where's my sword?

>>251329
"No reason" happened. People will simply choose to destroy another's self for no reason. Then the lack of self becomes the impetus. Coaches join in. Teachers join in. A bug to be stomped on, guess I just couldn't handle life. But I did handle life, haven't killed anyone, haven't killed myself. A man who spends 20 years in a prison cell is held in higher esteem than a man who spends 20 years in a bedroom. It's a good joke. Last quarter of 2024 was the period of physical assault, twice by my stepfather, over words that were neither about him nor directed toward him. My crimes? Blowing off steam to my mother about myself one time and about my brother another time. Each time he chose to get the boomer shakes and escalate something that was already in the process of defusing. Defending myself would've landed me in jail and without a home. I had suspected as much during the first time, and he affirmed my suspicion was correct immediately before the second time. Just got to be the bug I was destined to be.

>>251349
>>251356
>>251373
Reminiscent of normalfags telling a depressed, suicidal man to try doing a bunch of drugs and fucking a bunch of prostitutes or skydiving or other gay shit to reevalute his outlook on life before he reaches for the rope or the gun. Hollywood Movie World cognition.

>>251374
Your story actually reminds of Kafka's Metamorphosis a bit, wow.
On your second point, it is possible to seek some adventure and risk, even in today's fake and gay society. But you have to go pretty far afield, and it requires a lot more agency and risk-seeking than many NEETs possess.

>>251374
>Reminiscent of normalfags telling a depressed, suicidal man to try doing a bunch of drugs and fucking a bunch of prostitutes or skydiving or other gay shit to reevalute his outlook on life before he reaches for the rope or the gun. Hollywood Movie World cognition.
I dont think they're that wrong, experiencing some of these things gives a person some life context and an awakening. Similar to how shock therapy can work, I think shock therapy effects are mostly temporary though but good life experiences aren't.

>It's a good joke. Last quarter of 2024 was the period of physical assault, twice by my stepfather, over words that were neither about him nor directed toward him. 

What pieces of shit im sorry that happened to you. Get revenge before you leave hopefully get out as soon as possible and by the way self defense is self defense. If he kicks your ass again on hidden camera he's the faggot going to jail doesn't matter what ya momma thinks.

>>251382
Risk for risk's sake means nothing and there's so many traps like joining the military which you should never under any circumstances do.

I'm 28, worked a couple of jobs, still live with parents, now stuck being unemployed and running out of money. I'm not an "adult", I'm not a "man", I'm not even human. I don't know what I am, but it certainly isn't human.
My future was taken away from me before I was born, so it doesn't even matter if I'm 110% totally fit and healthy, socially well adjusted and married to a beautiful woman, or a fat socially retarded sperg with his own hand being the only realistic romantic prospects. There's no God, there's nothing worth pursuing on this shithole Earth, and there's nothing to be done, so anything can be done, so long as you can lie your way out of it. I don't care about anything anymore. I don't feel anything except bitter contempt and hatred - because I know for sure others do the same. You can see in their eyes the endless deep dark voids that their souls are. They're like jackals or vultures, circling around you waiting to devour your remains. I hate them.

>>251349
I have. That's why my parents both died.

>>251351
I do feel like I wasn't prepared for life post childhood by my parents. Not boomers but Gen X. Still...

>>251374
The world is cruel.

>>251221
So today you figured not only you'd use the word cope too often and or wrong but that you'd go ahead and  totally break logic by implying that talking about being mature makes you a woman? 
>>251254
Or typing cope a lot is a coping mechanism so you don't have to cope with others having differing coping mechanisms than you have in a rather thoughtless way. 
>>251401
I'm gen y and my gen x teachers had me ready to be sad about things as they said things were too hard out there for them but it'd be even worse for me. Boomers were the cutoff for nice lives being a thing. Zoomers are such nigger lover though maybe they can cope by just having like nine roomies and sharing rent. They can stand the rap music and blue hair and drug charges, I cannot nor can you. 
>>251255
>it's not a competition
The entire point of being mature is to do with creating life and becoming an adult to compete with other animals/humans so as to create life. Everything to do with maturity is a competition. If you fail at life you die, no job, no food, no sex, no offspring, no more animal.No more you. The whole reason maturity does not mean what it used to mean is due to new shit like hypergamy existing and low pay and high rent and such. Less and less succeed so less and less are mature, but that is because it's  even more of a competition than it was in the past. 
>>251171
Very yes. 
>>251349
>>251373
>you're not a real man until you get your first kill
If only this were still allowed.

>>251405
>you're not a real man until you get your first kill
Spartans and niggers, this way to the trash can of history.

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>>251406
Say that to a Spartan's face, biotch!
>go to find image of Leonidas yelling from the movie 300
>accidentally [lionitis yelling]
>first result of duckduckhoe is Craniodiaphyseal dysplasia
I wonder if he could lift the shield though.

>>251408
>getting your information from movies
ngmi

>>251408
Did you know that most of those 300 Spartans featured in that movie were in real life raging faggots?

>>251414
>t. professor rosenbaum of harvard

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>>251417
Then post a link to an Aryan approved historical record that would prove that they weren't raging faggots. Was Plato also one of ((( them )))? Because that was mentioned by him too. And Spartans from the age of 20 to 30 were obliged to serve in their military forces, ordered to train and sleep as a single group. Guess what, similar circumstances as today's prisons regarding the contact with women.
Well, Theban Sacred Band (which was exclusively formed of faggots) fought against Spartans, lol.

>then prove a negative about these 100 jewish claims oh you wont waste time doing so i win!!!1
Fucking retarded jewish nigger faggot

>>251457
>my brainfart is more trustworthy than Plato
Absolutely.

>my jewish falafel brainfart about plato is what greeks thought for their entire existence!!!1111
Fucking retarded jewish nigger faggot rides again!

>>251461
Read his Dialogues in the original Greek, if you could. One of them titled Phaedrus, especially.

>>251405
> my gen x teachers had me ready to be sad about things as they said things were too hard out there for them but it'd be even worse for me
Finally, some honesty!
>Zoomers are such nigger lover though
Yeah, yeah.
Not every zoomer is a shitlib. But it is kind of bad.

>>251405
When a scrawny 35-year-old with a weak, patchy goatee, a bitchy girlfriend and a thinning hairline rants about how everybody is childish but him, what values are he trying to promote?
Humility, giving respect when none is given, forgiveness...
Basically, lying down like a bitch and taking it.

>>251413
I didn't imply that through my fun post. 
>>251414
Source? Maybe we need more gay warriors if Achilles is gay meme and such is real? 
>>251524
I'm not sure what we're talking about. Did you even mean to link my post?

>>251541
You probably wouldn't lose track of the conversation if you weren't replying to a dozen anons at the same time.

>>251547
You'd probably have more fun online if your posts added something to the conversation. It's only seven also and several of the linked are obviously not relevant, several could be. Can you guess which ones?

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>>251573
Ban the sharty nigger sturgeon, I reported him. Why didn't you ban him?

>>251574
Are you literally seeing things? Is that why you replied to the wrong person?

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>>251576
>Sharty shill deflects
Die.

>pretend to report sharty posters
>one gets scared and deletes his post
>the other chimps out and false flags
I actually did report the five threads you just made though.

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>>251579
Stop imitating me, faggot.

>>251580
We should indeed start tripfagging to avoid this issue. You go first.

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Another day, another ESL meltdown.

>>251384
>There's so many traps like joining the military which you should never under any circumstances do.

Why not?

>>251405
>The entire point of being mature is to do with creating life and becoming an adult to compete
Maybe so, but I'm not going to compete with anons over who has the worse life. I'm aware that I'm quite well off compared with many and am not trying to convince anyone I'm particularly unfortunate.

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>>251168 (OP) 
>Do you feel like an adult?
I don't even Feel Human, let alone an adult.