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Just turned 18 and I dont want to be a wagie slavie (duh). I spent the  last three years of my life mostly in bed from chronic fatigue/depression so i know nothing about what im supposed to do, cant drive+no social life/skills, but parents are pressuring me to either go be a wagie slavie or go to college to be a higher paid wagie slavie. so i agreed and took some classes at community college and there isnt much here. i guess its interesting but im not there to learn, im there to maximize my wagie(bux)/slavie(hours) but even what im supposed to do now sucks balls. Even though im not really doing anything in life atm, i am always fucking stressed and picking at my scalp. And its worse than doing nothing because i have to stay inside stressed if i want the screen to be visible.

i picked engineering because it seems to be best value for a zero EQ loser, professor has given next to no instruction on how to CAD the example model. i give up, instructions were worthless and deadline is today. my constitution is terrible for being a wagie, i don't have the will, i'd probably quit and die or kill myself. i dont have the energy to start a life, it's over before it even began and that is truly humiliating help

how is it even worth it to live being a drag on others slavery and being a mattress decoration. the effort required to live is just too much. im in usa so neetbux isnt free candy.

i see there are a gorillion such loser life threads so its a common problem but wheres the common fix

i was gonna post on adv but cloudflare hates me
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>>245901 (OP) 
I'm in a similar boat as well. The worst part about wageslaving is that you can't even do it! It's impossible to get a job. Every job that's not burger flipping tier requires a gorillion years of experience plus a degree. And as for burger flipping tier jobs, I applied to hundreds of them and only one application got accepted, for a job with an extremely high turnover rate, so I ended up getting fired soon. I guess this depends from country to country but mine has a huge problem with shitskin immigrants which I guess makes the job situation so bad.
I'm considering going to college. I don't know if having a degree will help me in this oversaturated job market, but there's literally no other choice since my parents won't let me be a NEET for any longer. Also no, I can't get NEETbux in my country.
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>>245906
I have no exp but I know people and the paper practically does nothing from  what I heard from them other than letting them go to weeb land for  a bit longer than a tourist vist.
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>>245907
I can imagine that being true, which is why I'd treat college as just a way to kill time (and maybe wait for some sort of miracle) without my parents pressuring me to do the impossible and get a job. The inevitable is inevitable, but if I can postpone it for a few years, why not?
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>>245909
Use community college as a way to make other (former or aspiring) NEET friends and enjoy autisming together.
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The sooner you start, the sooner you get used to it
Not saying don't be looking for ways out, and if you can work part-time and make then do that, but understand nobody cares, and nobody will care if you are starving, you have to take care of yourself
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When I was young I went to junior college and got a degree in desperate women.
The best one smelled like vanilla and had skin like a porcelain doll.
The worst one smelled like day old ham and had skin like a parched lizard.
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>>245914
lucky bastard you could actually approach women without a possible police charge or being posted on social media by a bunch of dumb bitches.
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>>245915
>being posted on social media by a bunch of dumb bitches.
One of them apparently complained to all her IRL friends and on social media that I was a chauvinist asshole because I told her I would rather chop my dick off than date a single mom. But that was the worst that ever happened.
>>245916
that's not so bad, but the drama just isn't worth it. chasing your own tail over women who aren't even giving a  shit just is sad.
as the old saying goes 2d>3d.
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>>245916
They cry when you say child support should not be a thing
>>245917
That's fair. My real point was that I wasted my early attempts at higher education goofing off.
>>245906
yup basically that, timewasting. but unlike you i havent tried, dont think i can hold down mcburger job , too depressed. over, before it began, i feel awful about it, so it is with this college stuff too, definitely it will not be a walk in the park and i have my doubts i can do it. id be fine not to, and if i want to be a bigbrain there are fields im more interested in but not financially stable. there are people who really enjoy it, and there's people whos primary reason is to get money, and i know playing ball with unenthusiastic people sucks. and i didnt sign up to be a cadmonkey, i havent learnt relevant shit. and again im just kind of tired of doing anything involving getting up

>>245912
never had friends, also i am a phoneless privacy schizo, this filters most

>>245913
i understand it's a grim reality that could be so much worse, but maybe i dont understand it with my stomach yet. i never liked school and i never got used to it, was forced to test out to drop out and i did that the moment i qualified to take it

>>245916
id rather be gay
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>>245901 (OP) 
This reads like bait but I'm posting just in case.

Boomer parrents/society/whatever vs your individuality.
Don't go anal about your circumstance instead look at your opportunities(I'm not talking about career bs btw).
You have to develop a skill of a third perspective on things.
Instead of "whatever vs your soul/ if it's not by soul it's by shill" type of thinking realize that you are where you are and look at your deck of cards.
Don't beat yourself over weaknesses or percieved weaknesses either. Aka "someone did or is doing something on a regular basis. I'm angry but can't respond. I'm a coward faggot."

Engineering is a thing useful even when what you end up doing is way different.
College requires you to be proactive about your studies. It is not a "hold your hand" institution like school, so develop on your learning. Useful stuff includes reading books on your subject(dont watch videos unless it's about pressing which buttons), good place to acquire them is library genesis or libgen for short, in case the library in your place is lacking.
Also right now you have a social cover against further pressures aka you are a student so you don't need do much else in eyes of the normies. This gives you ample time to read/ do whatever you want as long as school stuff is done in a timely manner. On that note do your homework early. Takes away a lot of school related stress.

Also look at the world in less bad terms. There is a surprising ammount of good people/things. Don't forget to be careful of course.
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>>245901 (OP) 
>Just turned 18 and I dont want to be a wagie slavie (duh).
It would be a bad sign if you wanted to be a wagenigger. Careful about telling others you're 18. That's young and there's plenty of faggots around trying to take advantage of young people. Also, be careful telling normalniggers you don't want to be a wagenigger. They get offended that you go against their fake work ethic and will sabotage you.
>I spent the  last three years of my life mostly in bed from chronic fatigue/depression so i know nothing about what im supposed to do, cant drive+no social life/skills, but parents are pressuring me to either go be a wagie slavie or go to college to be a higher paid wagie slavie.
Put what you did behind you because your life is going to change a lot. Do the math about what you need to escape. If you want to live without involuntary work, you'll need to have passive income and lower your expenses. Look up the FIRE movement and the 4% rule. If you still live with your family, you can save on rent while saving for education, a car, or a down payment. Getting a license is a good goal. Social skills are overrated by normalniggers and probably everyone at your age is going to struggle with being taken advantage of and fooled. Not having life skills is normal for your age. College can be a great experience. It's a way to acquire experience without much risk. You're with professors that have insight into various industries. It may be the only place you can meet people like that. People in jobs are manipulative, secretive, and deceitful. You may not pick your ideal major but remember that there are general courses and you can always go back and get another degree. Education is lifelong. Ironically, the more you study, the more specialized you get, so your options for jobs narrow. Having a white collar job involves networking. Your reputation follows you around. It's good to be older and have experience when dealing with these types of jobs.
>so i agreed and took some classes at community college and there isnt much here. i guess its interesting but im not there to learn, im there to maximize my wagie(bux)/slavie(hours) but even what im supposed to do now sucks balls.
Community colleges aren't going to be extravagant. They're good for transferring to universities. There's more to college than wageniggering, it can change your outlook on life. College is a bonus, you don't actually need it. There's plenty of blue collar jobs with minimal training that make just as much as a bachelor's degree. They're often easier to get and easier to keep. White collar jobs may pay more but that doesn't help if you are stressed and get fired a lot. White collar jobs attract the kinds that care more about their careers than their families.
>Even though im not really doing anything in life atm, i am always fucking stressed and picking at my scalp. And its worse than doing nothing because i have to stay inside stressed if i want the screen to be visible.
The best way to deal with stress is to put all your effort into something you like doing.
>i picked engineering because it seems to be best value for a zero EQ loser, professor has given next to no instruction on how to CAD the example model. i give up, instructions were worthless and deadline is today. my constitution is terrible for being a wagie, i don't have the will, i'd probably quit and die or kill myself. i dont have the energy to start a life, it's over before it even began and that is truly humiliating help
Sometimes you'll get shitty professors that give out vague instructions. If you think you're going to get less than a B in the course it's probably better to drop it. It's a sign that you should try something else. You may find something you enjoy more.
>how is it even worth it to live being a drag on others slavery and being a mattress decoration. the effort required to live is just too much. im in usa so neetbux isnt free candy.
You'd be surprised how much free stuff is available in the USA. There's FAFSA and Medicaid.
>i see there are a gorillion such loser life threads so its a common problem but wheres the common fix
Life isn't supposed to be easy. It's a struggle. Think about what makes it worth continuing.
>i was gonna post on adv but cloudflare hates me
Fuck cuckchan. It's really bad for you. It trains you to be evil.
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>>245901 (OP) 
Sounds like someone needs a retroactive underage ban.
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>>245940
>This reads like bait
means you live in an alternate reality, so far divorced from my trapped state, that its unbelievable, so how was it in yours?
No idea how to see/exploit opportunities except get more enlightened, ive been trying but aint seeing a magic bullet. When i was younger i tried psychedelics in the hope that detaching  my personality from my knowledge would help. didnt reach ego death.
weaknesses are shameful....
current pressure is still tough, and to start im even taking a reduced courseload.

>>245943
its more about what i didnt do than what i did. especially social life, i have not had actual friends ever, the superficial ones are boring and eventually unbearable. even online i tend to get driven off.
license is not a goal, its a requirement, its usa. where neighbors are awful and decency is unenforced so you move away from them, resulting in low density (still not low enough).
>The best way to deal with stress is to put all your effort into something you like doing.
Well at current course im set to fail the standards set by society to function in it which is take care of myself, get a phone and car and wageslave and talk to people. doing things i like is not helping me so far. i take photos yet stress and fatigue hinder me.
>If you think you're going to get less than a B in the course it's probably better to drop it. 
I just won't enjoy waging slaving and what I see is that this is the hazing ritual for the comfortable high paying jobs. what i enjoy isnt going to bring me the peace of mind of a stable salary high enough to avoid unpleasantries. if it makes money at all
>Think about what makes life worth continuing
just doesnt seem worth the effort like i said. too stressful
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>>246035
It's too hard to not give up and just not give a shit anymore
it's bad enough  if you have any knowledge of philosophy that everything is fucking fake and that our brains just simply make everything up simply just to cope with our existence everyone's reality is slightly different because of it
>>245901 (OP) 

forget engineering. get into sales.

any sales position to start. you can scale later.

once you are capable of selling, you will look back to who you are today and see a different person.
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>>246040
sell me on it
>No idea how to see/exploit opportunities except get more enlightened, ive been trying but aint seeing a magic bullet. When i was younger i tried psychedelics in the hope that detaching  my personality from my knowledge would help. didnt reach ego death.
You don't need a breakthrough for psychedelics to benefit you.
weaknesses are shameful....
>current pressure is still tough, and to start im even taking a reduced courseload.
It's fine to not study full time.
>its more about what i didnt do than what i did. especially social life, i have not had actual friends ever, the superficial ones are boring and eventually unbearable. even online i tend to get driven off.
Focus on your family, they may not be around forever. You don't need friends, either IRL or online. Interacting as Anon is better than namefagging and having people added.
>license is not a goal, its a requirement, its usa. where neighbors are awful and decency is unenforced so you move away from them, resulting in low density (still not low enough).
Car dependence is horrible. At least there's plenty of driving jobs and you don't have to interact with niggers.
>Well at current course im set to fail the standards set by society to function in it which is take care of myself, get a phone and car and wageslave and talk to people. doing things i like is not helping me so far. i take photos yet stress and fatigue hinder me.
You're still young. You'll eventually figure out how to get jobs.
>I just won't enjoy waging slaving and what I see is that this is the hazing ritual for the comfortable high paying jobs. what i enjoy isnt going to bring me the peace of mind of a stable salary high enough to avoid unpleasantries. if it makes money at all
>comfortable
>high paying
White collar office jobs are some of the most stressful and unhealthy. They don't always pay more than blue collar jobs. You'll be seeing the same people everyday for years so if you can't get along with them, you're screwed. These types of jobs require networking. They have a rigid social hierarchy which is based on wealth and not merit. You'll see depressing sights like people sucking up to narcissists and backstabbing each other to climb the social ladder. You may find a job that doesn't require a degree that pays more and is more comfortable.
>just doesnt seem worth the effort like i said. too stressful
You're not alone with stress issues.
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>>246054
>It's fine to not study full time.
would be bad to take longer to wagie slavie.
don't have the most cohesive family. I do need friends. i've tryed going without but it feels bad when all your friends are behind a screen. gives the feeling that if they knew you irl theyd drop you too, and also when the internets down youre all alone.
>you don't have to interact with niggers.
ive learnt the hard way you need to either buy all the land around you or be in a gated community to get away from noisy *iggers
tell me about the nice blue collar job you landed.
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>>245901 (OP) 
>Just turned 18 and I dont want to be a wagie slavie (duh).
And there's probably very little that will make you enjoy the wageslave life.
>I spent the  last three years of my life mostly in bed from chronic fatigue/depression
15-18 in your bed, not even attending high school? Did you even finish high school?
>no social life/skills
A network of contacts are worth more than an education.
>but parents are pressuring me to either go be a wagie slavie or go to college to be a higher paid wagie slavie
To hell with what they want. You don't owe them shit.
>i picked engineering because it seems to be best value for a zero EQ loser, professor has given next to no instruction on how to CAD the example model. i give up, instructions were worthless and deadline is today.
What you pick means fuck all if you don't enjoy it. You will still need to communicate with other people even if you pick a mostly cerebral line of work like engineering. You're not going to sit in a hole and pick at a keyboard for 8 hours a day, not seeing a single soul. Even when factoring in the new WFH crap.
>im in usa so neetbux isnt free candy.
Do you have any diagnoses on paper? I'd suggest talking to some doctors to get some things figured out.
If you do go down the neetbux/disabilitybux route, you probably need a lawyer to help you. Going through that bureacratical hellscape on your own is a recipe for failure.
>>245922
>never had friends, also i am a phoneless privacy schizo, this filters most
Unbelievably based, but yes, this filters people hard. They look at you like you're a complete fucking alien.
>>245940
>realize that you are where you are and look at your deck of cards.
This guys hand consists of a One with Nothing, a Two of Clubs and The Fool. It's unusable.
>It is not a "hold your hand" institution like school, so develop on your learning.
Developing your learning requires your hand to be held when you're in a position like OPs.
>Also right now you have a social cover against further pressures aka you are a student so you don't need do much else in eyes of the normies.
That's going to disappear very quickly, if it isn't gone already.
>>245943
>If you want to live without involuntary work, you'll need to have passive income and lower your expenses
<passive income at 18, let alone someones 20s if they live alone in a rental apartment and are a wageslave
bruh
>Social skills are overrated by normalniggers
It is disgusting just how much social skills matters in todays society. You rub people the wrong way, you risk getting criminal charges if it's extreme enough.
>Education is lifelong
On paper, maybe. In practice, it can wither away in as little as a year.
>There's plenty of blue collar jobs with minimal training that make just as much as a bachelor's degree. They're often easier to get and easier to keep.
Ah yes, the guy that dislikes wageslavery should get a blue collar job. Are you the part of the same crowd that push trades shit onto people who ask what they should do with their lives?
>>246040
>get into sales
<no social skills
<get into sales
You're retarded.
>>246078
>>but parents are pressuring me to either go be a wagie slavie or go to college to be a higher paid wagie slavie
>To hell with what they want. You don't owe them shit.
<*parents kick Anon out of the house in true American fashion*
<nothing personnel, kid
>>246088
>becomes the next fed trained shooter
welcome to merika
>>246088
<*parents kick Anon out of the house in true American fashion*
As the offspring-hating barbarians that Americans are.
>>246078
>not even attending high school?Did you even finish high school?
no
>any diagnoses on paper?
depression from a stint in the looney bin several years ago, a year on meds then i quit, no documented followup
shame and burden i'll put on my family. my only sibling is also a failure already.

its over......
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>>246112
>depression from a stint in the looney bin several years ago
Depression usually doesn't mean shit, since bureaucratic institutions usually assume that it's a temporary condition.
Interesting that it went as far as you ending up into a looney bin, that could change things.
>no documented followup
Again, contact a doctor and see what you can do. There's obviously other things that can be put on paper.
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>>246115
Seeing one soon. just dont like this ending. but never saw a good one. i usually met miserable fates in my dreams. 

yet day goes: i should study > but brain feels blurry > i should rest > i cant sleep/destress > then i should study > brain feels blurry & day is gone
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>>246058
>would be bad to take longer to wagie slavie.
You can go to college later if you want. It might even be more fun since you'll have a better idea of what you want. A degree is just one part of establishing a career. You still need contacts and a resume.
>don't have the most cohesive family. I do need friends. i've tryed going without but it feels bad when all your friends are behind a screen. gives the feeling that if they knew you irl theyd drop you too, and also when the internets down youre all alone.
Nothing wrong with being alone. Until recently I didn't communicate with anyone outside of my family for years, not even online. It was refreshing. Not getting along with family is normal at your age. You may find it easier when you're older.
>tell me about the nice blue collar job you landed.
I used to work in software dev. It destroyed my life. I'm happier working as a driver. It's easy and allows me to be alone most of the time. I'm going to college as well but I don't know if I'll get a job out of it. I'm doing it mostly for interest.
>>246078
>passive income at 18, let alone someones 20s if they live alone in a rental apartment and are a wageslave
If OP lives with his parents, he can start investing in index funds. Renting an apartment is one of the worst financial mistakes. Hopefully OP stays with his family until he can afford a down payment.
>It is disgusting just how much social skills matters in todays society. You rub people the wrong way, you risk getting criminal charges if it's extreme enough.
That's not social skills, that's just being in the wrong place. You can't agree with everyone, especially in one of the world's most polarized societies.
>On paper, maybe. In practice, it can wither away in as little as a year.
The details may fade but the general ideas should stay. Some things are unforgettable. It's easier to learn something a second time.
>Ah yes, the guy that dislikes wageslavery should get a blue collar job. Are you the part of the same crowd that push trades shit onto people who ask what they should do with their lives?
As opposed to spending your life in an office? All it takes it so bruise some narcissist's pussy to get fired and be back to another multi-month job trawl with a gap in your resume. As a software developer, I've gotten fired for attempting to fix bugs that someone was relying on for job security. I've had a manager that didn't like me refuse to give me assignments then complain to his manager that I wasn't busy enough. I've gotten fired for crying when a coworker wouldn't turn off his music. Office jobs are precarious, highly social, and based on pretend. At least with blue collar jobs, you have work to show instead of sucking up to narcissists while vandalizing the company product for job security. Physical work goes by faster. 8 hours in a factory goes by faster than 8 minutes in an office. They accept you wherever you want work instead of having to impress some HR faggot. In white collar jobs, you'll get policed for every little thing you say no matter how politically correct it is. They make you afraid to speak, then start bitching at you ignoring them.
>>246088
This happened to me and I lost my 20s because of it. I spent all that time ruining my health to pay rent. I spent years living in construction sites that I was funding. They woke me up with power tools when I was exhausted from wageniggering. It fucks with me to this day that I was paying to renovate someone else's house.
>>246112
>>246117
Stay away from mental hospitals.Get range therapy instead. Feeling unmotivated for periods of time is normal and it'll go away eventually. Don't underestimate how much your perception can change just with time.
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>>246145
I dont have much faith in investments, too fickle. petrodollar undermined, poised to exit scam. housing, already given up. great to remind me even if i manage to be a good goy its still economically over.
few years, fatigue still remains.
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>>246314
The stock market always goes up in the long term. The dollar isn't going to die anytime soon. Saving 20% down for a small condo isn't that expensive and saves you from the rent trap. Consider studying economics or finance.
What do i do. Im in my mid twenties and i dropped out of high school a decade ago. Im a recluse and i need a job. I want to work from home. All ive done is nothing since i left high school and now im being forced to go work a normal job. How can i fix this? What can i learn that will enable me to work from homr?
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>>246145
I saw your post in /tech/. yeah i can feel it. honestly does sound nicer. my vision is nearsighted from too much reading when younger, idk if it can be fixed. i noticed many years ago that after two days not reading anything at all (camping) that it got better a bit. but since then ive not managed to escape staring at something too close to me for that long. :(
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