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fairy tales won't become real if you believe in them hard enough

You're right. Neither will a worm or sea sponge ever evolve into a human no matter how many times it reproduces.

Some freak accident gave birth to an organism that wants to spread and then it spread and spread and grew and evolved in order to continue spreading. We're just the currently most advanced form of that organism, anything else is cope.

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I eat cheeseburg
cheeseburg make me happy 
life's good
bless :)

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In experiments where electromagnetism was used to shut off certain parts of the brain, shutting down the amygdala would make experimental subjects less religious.  For better or worse, faith evolved in us, and is part of what it means to be healthy-minded as a human.

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>>189818 (OP) 
>If we're all gonna die and have our existence, emotions, memories, relationships, experiences, and all of our accomplishments erased forever why anything in life matter
Literally how can you be sure that this is true?
>inb4 religion
>fairy tales won't become real if you believe in them hard enough
You don't have to believe in anything specific... Hard soyentific-atheism is not the only alternative to religion, anon.
>>189819
True.
>>189820
https://www.reddit.com/
>>189822
>amygdala
Oh, that reminds me of the cute aggression thing.

>>189824
Literally how can you be sure that that isn't true?

>>189826
Well, I can neither be sure that it is true nor that it is false. It's the sort of thing that's literally impossible to prove.
In this case, I'd say it's healthier to place your bet in that it's false. Or you can continue to believe in it with no foundation and be depressed 24/7, it's your choice.

>>189818 (OP) 
>What's the point of existing other than existence itself? Why is there no greater meaning?
To extend yout phenotype as much u can and make sure they can dominate other phenotypes
Ants understand this and that is they dont have to deal with tards such as yourself. For real you deserve enslavement

>>189829
If you need an imaginary friend in order to not kill yourself then you'd probably do the world a favor by just killing yourself instead.

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>No ear can hear Him, nor can eye see Him, nor tongue speak of Him, but [only] mind and heart.

>But first thou must tear off from thee the cloak which thou dost wear - the web of ignorance, the ground of bad, corruption's chain, the carapace of darkness, the living death, sensation's corpse, the tomb thou carriest with thee, the robber in thy house, who through the things he loveth, hateth thee, and through the things he hateth, bears thee malice. 

Which text is this from?

>>189831
What imaginary friend are you even talking about? Do you assume that I'm a Christian just because I don't believe in your gaytheist redditranny cult?

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>>189832
>Tat: Doth then this life not perish?

>Hermes: Hush, son! and understand what God, what Cosmos [is], what is a life that cannot die, and what a life subject to dissolution.

>Yea, understand the Cosmos is by God and in God; but Man by Cosmos and in Cosmos.

>The source and limit and the constitution of all things is God.

>>189833
Every religion has imaginary friends, even non-religions have imaginary friends in the form of spirits or ghosts or whatever. Every belief besides science is based on the idea that you won't be gone or alone after you die.

>>189832
>No ear can hear Him, nor can eye see Him, nor tongue speak of Him, because he's not fukken real you moron

>>189836
If not believing in crushing nihilism under the name of "science" makes me believe in "imaginary friends"(??), then I have no shame in believing in "imaginary friends", whatever the fuck you even mean by that.

>>189840
There's only 2 possibilities, either you believe that we stop existing after death, or you believe that we don't.

>>189840
Not him but I'm not trying to be edgy, it's just being realistic. Nothing happens after you die, you just stop existing. Miracles are an illusion created by confirmation bias (something is only considered a miracle AFTER it happens and was likely to happen anyways) and aren't exclusive to any religion. And the world isn't 6000 years old and wasn't literally made by Yahweh in 6 days. These are just facts ya dumbo.

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>>189843
>Nothing happens after you die, you just stop existing
How do you know? Have you died before?

>>189845
>NOO STOP ASKING QUESTIONS AND THINKING ABOUT HOW THINGS WORK THAT'S LITERAL SELF-HARM
You sound mentally ill T B H.

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>>189841
It's impossible to prove either, so you could say that I believe in neither or believe in both. But I am not an emotionless robot like you so I prefer to imagine that the latter is more likely.
>>189843
>Not him but I'm not trying to be edgy, it's just being realistic. Nothing happens after you die, you just stop existing.
Yes, it's so realistic that there's literally no proof of it. Has anyone ever come back from death (to our world) to tell us of what happens after death?
>Miracles are an illusion created by confirmation bias (something is only considered a miracle AFTER it happens and was likely to happen anyways) and aren't exclusive to any religion.
Where did I say that I believe in miracles as you're describing them?
>And the world isn't 6000 years old
Where did I say that?
>and wasn't literally made by Yahweh in 6 days.
Where did I say that?
You damn gaytheists are really schizophrenic, if someone doesn't fully agree with your bullshit then you start making up things they never said.
>>189844
Precisely this, gaytheists push their misery porn as objective undeniable facts without any actual basis... just because they glorify doom and depression?

>>189846
Believing in depressing things that no one can prove is definitely not the same thing as "asking questions" and "thinking about how things work". If you're not retarded/schizophrenic then you're just engaging in bad faith.

Philosophy only has a true question. Should we kill ourselves?

>>189844
It's more likely than heaven or reincarnation

>>189850
People believe it because it's by far the most plausible explanation. Every idea about afterlife is fiction from a historical point of time before people had even the ability to reach the sky, let alone space or even zoom into things in space.

>>189853
It's equally unprovable, the only reason why you say that it's more likely is because you're a brainwashed nihilist who enjoys misery.
>>189855
Where did I say that I believe in afterlife as described by religious texts? You fucking gaytheists are addicted to making up things no one ever said.

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

>>189856
Not everyone is as afraid of death as you.

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>>189857
Good post.

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>>189858
Damn, you're so strong and mature and sigma, do you want a cookie?

>>189860
You sound insecure.

>>189861
You sound enlightened and rational, you should really make a YouTube channel, I'll be your first subscriber

>>189858
I am :)

>>189818 (OP) 
>If we're all gonna die and have our existence, emotions, memories, relationships, experiences, and all of our accomplishments erased forever why anything in life matter
Firstly, stop writing like an ESL. Either write in your native language so I won't read your outlander gibber, or write like you can actually speak English.
Secondly, it is true in every way that everything that is "you" does not die when the central thing that is "you" dies. Does your consciousness die with the meat that hosts it? Oh yes, most certainly. But a not-insignificant part of your physicality survives with your children and/or your siblings. In terms of the things you find valuable, well, those are due to memes (spooks) and those will outlive you. They were burned into your brain through words and actions, you burned them into the world through words and actions.
>What's the point of existing other than existence itself?
Tools have a "point" to their existence, they were crafted in order to make something that did something. Are you a tool? If you are, then from the perspective of life your purpose is to have children. Maybe instead your purpose, having been thoroughly possessed by some spook, is to advance it's ends and facilitate it's reproduction. Maybe your purpose is to listen instead to your innermost drives and never suffer from hunger, cold, arousal or discomfort.
You certainly do seem like a slave without a master; I hope you find one soon and stop whining where I can read it.

>>189863
If leaning towards the highest probability is enough to make me enlightened then I guess I am.

Ok faggot. If you don't believe in heaven or hell, and if you don't believe you just stop existing after you die, and if you keep getting butthurt over my atheism then what DO you believe?

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>>189873
Nothing specific, just a vague concept of a non-bad afterlife. Is it so hard to grasp that things are not black and white like "religion OR atheism"?

>>189875
The whole idea of afterlife is extracted from religious way of thinking. There's no natural basis for such a belief.

>>189873
Everyone that you kill is your slave in the afterlife

>>189841
>we stop existing
>we
That's your problem right there.

>>189878
religiousness is our natural state you fucking clown

>>189878
And there's no basis for the belief that there is nothing after death either.

>>189886
Except that there's absolutely nothing observable about living beings beyond than their physical bodies. Not when they're alive, not when they die, and not after they're dead.

There was a thing in a tv show that let you feel what it was like to die
It made the doc a sadomasochist to the point of mutilation
I would put that shit in my head so fast

>don't suggest anything that helps people deal with existential dread
Guess you're stuck with your dread then faggot, I hope it keeps you from sleeping well for the rest of your life.

>>189848
>Yes, it's so realistic that there's literally no proof of it. Has anyone ever come back from death (to our world) to tell us of what happens after death?
Terrible argument. There is no physical evidence that people keep living after death. Also, why do people fear for their own lives if the latter is more likely? It doesn't make sense

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We're all going to die in the cold darkness and be forgotten by history as if we never even existed, eventually the sun will eat the earth and kill everything anyway so life and everything in this earth is all meaningless.

>>189906
Then you wouldn't mind it if I destroyed everything you ever loved including yourself

>>189818 (OP) 
Those feelings you have generally go away once you turn 15. You just have to wait, OP.

OP is a downer.

OP i suggest a book called The Myth of Sisyphus if you're interested in this subject.

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>>189905
People could be isekai'd to other worlds without leaving a trace in this world, for example. What's your objection?
>uuuh.... that... it doesn't sound like it makes a lot of sens-
No, I mean what's your tangible proof that that does not happen?

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I like to think there's an afterlife. 
If I'm right and I was righteous in life then I go to heaven!
If I'm wrong, who cares? I'm dead. At least my last moments where of peace thinking I was about to meet my family members in another realm.

>>189925
I could have superpowers and fuck your mom every night and erase her memory afterwards. What's your objection?
>uuuh.... that... it doesn't sound like it makes a lot of sens-
No, I mean what's your tangible proof that that does not happen?

>>189927
Completely different because you're talking about something in this present world, as opposed to my theories about what happens after death.

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>>189925
I believe in tangibles and reality not coulds and what ifs. Reality tells me that when I die I'm done and I'm never coming back. If that weren't the case, there'd be evidence to the contrary

>>189929
But death is not the same plane of reality as the present world. It's completely opaque so it's silly to apply the same logical rules.

>>189928
It's literally the exact same thing.

>>189932
See: >>189931

>>189933
>my completely arbitrary made-up thing is more real than your completely arbitrary made-up thing

>>189934
Yes, death is a different plane of reality as the present world and it's opaque to us, so anything you make up (as long as it doesn't interfere with the present world) is equally true. That guy even posted an Umineko pic, so I can use the "cat box" analogy, death is a cat box. Meanwhile the present world is the present world and since some things can be proved, it implies that any claim needs proof.
Anyway, I see no point in continuing to argue with you death cultists, you guys are just bent to believe in misery, because it makes you feel mature???... I guess I should make a thread about this one day.

>>189901
How do you deal with yours?

>>189925
What's your tangible proof that I'm not secretly a cat typing this post right now? Oh, you don't have any? Guess you can't cross that out as a possibility.

>>189949
>I see no point in continuing to argue with you death cultists, you guys are just bent to believe in misery, because it makes you feel mature???...

>death cultist
this sounds pretty badass actually

>>189951
Average mentally ill nihilistic westoid

>>189951
Not really, I’ve seen the concept done to death in media

>>189960
>done to death
bu-dum-tss

>>189957
It sounds like a demon from DOOM. How is that not badass?

>>189951
Really? Nigger worship is part of a death cult as you are giving your energy to other other phenotypes in an effort to allow your own to die

>>189818 (OP) 
Distract yourself and do the things that make your brain produce the feelgood juices of happiness and pleasure. Anything at all that makes your life enjoyable, especially if it comes at the expense of another's enjoyment of their lives. Join the nazis and gas the kikes (4realz this tiem), join the kkk and lynch the niggers, do whatever you anticipate will make your fleeting existence happiest. Also religion is awesome, it's the mythology of your culture (or of someone else's), dont sleep on the thrill of the experince.

>>189965
There are things more important than "badass"-ness.

>>189818 (OP) 
We live in an omniverse.
A place that has multiple multiverses, one for every set of natural constants.
Within each of these multiverses there is one universe for every possible timeline within the natural constants set by their multiverse.
You were told that approximately every seven years, every cell of your body gets replaced, but what if i were to tell you that approximately every planck unit of time the entire universe as you know it is replaced with another that is slightly different in an infinite number of ways.
That the past still exists and that the future already exists too, and that the present was always there and always will be there.
When you think of a timeline, I'd like you to imagine a movie being projected on a screen in a theatre, that is how our universe appears from our perspective on the inside, as a part of it's contents, where we have one universe that constantly changes it's state from past to future.
But the reality exists in the projector room, our timeline is really a reel of film, a series of still, unmoving universes that stretch from the beginning of our universe's history to it's end. This is the block universe of eternalism, and for various reasons it is the only model of a timeline that makes sense to me.
Next we step into the hallway to see other rooms in the theatre building, each with different films playing, these are the other timelines in our multiverse, which operate just like our own.
And steppng outside the theater building that is our multiverse, we see other theaters that are the other multiverses, the street being the omniverse.
Heading back to the projection room, we see that the reel of film which is our timeline has a b-side, exactly the same as the history of our own timeline, except that matter and antimatter have switched places, the collapse of our universe in the big crunch creates the singularity that gives birth to their universe in their big bang event, and vice versa it is likewise that their end is our beginning.
The multiverse is actually structured not too unlike an egg, the timelines all share the same singularities, the same two points through which they all travel, and these are the two furthest points along themselves. They lay next to each other, forming an oval-shaped "shell" around a sphere in the center, the "yolk" of the "egg", the core of the multiverse, where the natural constants that govern the physical laws of the timelines originate.

>>189982
proof?

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>>189965
Doom demons are badass cuz thier physiology allows it, when humans do it, it is just an unhealthy monkey doing cringe

>>189981
no.

>>190070
>t. eenager

I think you have to create your own meaning

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>>189818 (OP) 
there is without a doubt no good answer to the question. you look where there is nothing, and by no mistake, you find nothing.
the complication is that you assert that your own perception must be wrong, that there must be a meaning, and continue on in a fever of grasping and searching for it.
the reason is that, when people seem to lament the meaningless of life, they are usually in a situation where life means more to them than ever, where their entire soul is hung up about a pleasant thing they have lost or an unpleasant thing they have gained, whether they understand it yet or not. you assert that life is meaningless as a defense, while your perception torments you with images of a life overcrowded with meaning.
the solution is to stop shouting about the emptiness, and to start perceiving it with clarity. only then can you take solice in it.

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>>189931
Just listen to yourself. Why would god not want people to know that an afterlife exists and substaniate it with observable reality? It better not be to test us. See pic related

>>190166
I never said that that I believed in a (good) god.

>>189935
>That guy even posted an Umineko pic
Which pose was clearly inspired by Ace Attorney

>>189926
This was the best post in this thread I think.

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Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter. So Paul departed from among them. Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.
(Acts 17)

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As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 
(Romans 3)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
(John 3)

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
(John 10)

Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
(Galatians 2)

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I wonder if the christspammer is an AI

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No amount of words can do anything, though words have influence. Nothing can open the eyes but Jesus Christ. Nothing but the sending of the holy Spirit, to inform one of God's love for them. There is no hope in man, there is no hope in his vain imaginations and philosophies that come and go. They cannot save and deliver.

"For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens."
(I Chronicles 16)

"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."
(Isaiah 43)

"Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour."
(Isaiah 45)

There is only one saviour, and where is his salvation? It has been at the forefront at all times. His forgiveness and mercies endure forevermore. He came undercover and paid the final and only price. Why?

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast."
(Ephesians 2)

"This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief."
(1 Timothy 1)

There is no boasting, no "I made it" no but this is man centered and the worldly thinking. But to God we are all nothing, for He made us, and loves us because He is love. He sustains us and existence. And Has given place to all men for repentance. There is no boasting that "I made it and everyone else is unworthy but I am righteous!" What kind of love does God have for you then, none it would seem, what a hateful angry god you presume exists and I cannot imagine living in whatever he has prepared. But rather God loves all His creation and offers Paradise to all, not just to those who do well by man's standards.
When the thief on the cross turned to Jesus and said, Lord remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus replied, Assuredly you shall be with me in Paradise. He didn't have time to be baptised he didn't have time to do any good works to make up for his evil deeds, he had time for nothing but faith in Christ. No faith in himself he had already messed up and ruined his life.

Who neither had armour or swords to their minds. Are you trusting in your armour and swords to save you? Will you save yourself? Are you the saviour? Can you make clean and holy or can you forgive sins or can you give eternal life?

<<190204
I don't think so, but you sir are definitely a schizo

>>190072
who's eenager?

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>>189818 (OP) 
>why anything in life matter
You forge meaning.
>inb4 MAAAAAAKE YOUR OWN MEANING BROOO!!
Yeah, that's the actual answer. Religion should be acknowledged as well, but not hebrew fairy tales obviously.

>>190276
"forge" in the sense of counterfeit.

What’s the point of this thread? That’s such a dumb thing to be thinking about.

>>190414
OP wanted somebody to either say nihilism or hedonism so that he could go in fully without the feeling of being the one who "decided" he should. That's why he's asking questions even though he's already decided on the answers.

>>189821
Five Guys?

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>>189818 (OP) 
>>inb4 religion
>fairy tales won't become real if you believe in them hard enough
even if theyre not real they give u hope and happiness while u still alive bro

OP here. My sibling asked me to play a video game with them and I said yes. I realized that even if we can't understand why we exist, we should still strive to make connections with other people. As long as we are in this world, we should keep showing love to the people we know because we don't know when they'll be gone. I think the reality that life is fleeting and death isn't something to be afraid of more comforting than eternity of heaven/hell because of some arbitrary deity's rulebook or reincarnation as a grasshopper because you didn't score enough karma points.

>>190506
I agree mostly, I lost a family member recently and I have had deep sorrow and regret for not spending more time with him in his last few months 
But I do hope heaven is real and that he is happy now

>>190506
>My sibling (...) them
Is your sibling non-binary?

>>190506
Oh look the monkey is social and values being social

>>190350
skill issue.

>>190521
ok cia will I tell you the name of everyone in my family and give you my social security number next?

>>190538
If you genuinely have no desire for a connection with others you are a defect. Plain and simple. The fact you're here arguing and being a faggot says you do have that desire though, it's just that your life circumstances turned you into a spiteful creature that forms those connections through negative interaction.

>>190616
Oh the monkey now thinks it knows something
How cute and sad at the same time
I seek to dominate and entertainment, you and all your monkey kin are just tools for that
especially the females

>>190637
English please.

>>190639
Lo siento señor. No ingles.

>>190639
retarded brazilian favela monkey copes as it rots, rots as it copes and poops the entire time

>>190637
>im so edgy and mysterious

>>190658
The fuck is edgy about telling the truth? If a fellow monkey isn't useful in some way you do not interact with them unless they are kin then they are a backup of your genes. All interaction is based in you trying to get something, like every other animal.

>>190659
>I’m so edgy and mysterious

>>190666
Nice trips

>>190666
ok satan I admit you are edgier than me

what are we missing out on by living? death is gonna be there no matter what so we're not 'missing out' on anything by continuing to live. i agree that life is shit and most things we do are essentially useless, but we may as well deal with that to see the few cool things that are gonna happen.

also porn

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>>190760
threads like these are fucking dumb because they completely miss the point out of if you wanna change things the best way to do do nothing and suggest others to do the same thing
if you wanna collapse the system inaction will do it in no time and it's not like you can just build another system on top
try to enjoy life and just watch it slowly burn down

the fact that  normalniggers suggest the only functional system is slaves  and masters is just pure stockholm syndrome  I just wanna live my own life and not deal with the inane and redundant system morons have endured and kept possible

>>190762
Nah the best way to make the  collapse happen (faster) is to kidnap women and make them have offspring, then put them (offspring) through a crucible to weed out the traits that you dont want, then raise them Catholic orphanage Style with a religion that is a dooms day cult and the society outside the cult is evil and it is the works of good to dismantle it
Also cult has to be patriarchal, to the point that women are assumed guilty until proven innocent

Ask yourself the reverse: why does the fact that you die make everything meaningless? If anything to me it does the opposite. Imagine you were immortal and could live even beyond the death of the universe. Wouldn't that be fucking horrible and drain any and all motivation to do things now?

>>190762
>the only functional system is slaves  and masters
It is. Every "system" converges back into slaves and masters, it is the natural state of any group of more than 1 people.

>>190813
Again: death isn't the problem. I have never been afraid to die. It's what we're supposed to do between being born and dying which is difficult.

>>190893
Deliberately dying (i.e killing yourself) can be difficult too.
While that's incredibly obvious, it still warrants pointing out.

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>>190813
>Imagine you were immortal and could live even beyond the death of the universe.

MANBABY POWER FANTASY! MANBABY POWER FANTASY! MANBABY POWER FANTASY!

>>190926
God is a manbaby? holy crap satan chill out

im so edgy and mysterious

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>>190927
I don't know why I find this funny

>>189818 (OP) 
Well, supposedly there is a lot of importance to the things you do and your life outside of perceived materialism. Isolating yourself to your own understanding can probably only yield so much, not saying you shouldn't think for yourself but have an open mind. There's a lot of mystery in the way the world is rn, a lot of hidden secrets that common folks like us know nothing about but are sure to be somehow related to. It's easy to just fall into insanity and absurdism but after trying it myself I've realized it's probably no good. Sorry for my lack of fluency.

>>189818 (OP) 
I don't know if I believe in this myself, but I know people who say that after you die and a gorillion years pass the universe will get destroyed and will happen again and you will be born on a different timeline. You technically won't keep the exact "emotions, memories, relationships, experiences, and all of our accomplishments", but things would play out close enough but with some differences (or possibly the exact same way, though).

>>191231
ask them for proof

another day, another tired narrative

>>191366
ok schizo, what exists beyond your physical body?

>>191469
>my grandpa was a sea sponge
>nooo you're the schizo

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>>190480
Nobody is interested in this rubbish. People want reality, truth. Real eternal life. If you do not believe in reality then you should not be following it. Paul wrote a third of the New Testament, he met the risen Christ and was a chosen apostle. He had no interest in nonsense and gave no place for such pathetic excuses, anyone who believed souls simply went to be with God forever he rebuked. If Christ is not raised from the dead, then christianity is worthless and the Bible says you should not be following it, and in fact that if you only have hope in Christ and nothing else then you are the most miserable person in the world. But we have hope for everything promised, even eternal life.

(I Corinthians 15)
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: and if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

(I Corinthians 15)
If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.

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Not only did Jesus fulfill prophesy foretold long before he came onto the scene. He is the only one who could ever fulfill them, he is the only one who could be the one now and forever. The prophet Isaiah had said,

(Isaiah 7)
And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. 

(Isaiah 9)
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Jesus of the house of David. Jews kept their ancestry records all the way back to Abraham, you see they are very obsessed with ancestry in the scriptures. The records have all been lost since Israel was destroyed by the Romans. God said He would give people a sign, a virgin shall conceive. Not just some young woman, because if it was an ordinary birth it would not be a sign, but this is a sign, a virgin birth. And in 250BC when the Hebrew writings were translated into Greek this was the interpretation of the Jewish scribes, a virgin birth. And his name "God with us" is what Immanuel means. And he would refuse evil from birth, sinless even at a young age. Kids commit sin real quick, they are very covetous. But not this man. No one else fills these prophies, let alone Daniel who gave us the exact time Messiah would come, before the destruction of the Temple. That's why the Jews and Romans and many other were expecting the Messiah in the first century. Just read Suetonius, Tacitus, Dio Cassius, Josephus. Which conclude that the Messiah must have been Titus and Vespasian, who destroyed Jerusalem and proceeded to rule the world from Rome. That's their interpretation of the Messiah. You want to go with that? Are those two God's anointed ones giving light to the world. I don't know.

The Lord's kingdom is one not made with humans hands which perish like all the kingdoms of earth, but it is in Spirit and power until the time he comes again.

(Mark 13)
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

>>191472
disprove evolution.
>ummmm akshully slight genetic changes over the course of time wouldn't result in new species yahweh said so when he made the world 6,000 years ago

>fairy tales won't become real if you believe in them hard enough
oh fuck oh fuck dude you don't get it i've been trying all week to find my folder of ugly dudes in fedoras SOMEBODY HELP

>>191479
>that webm
>POTATOS HAVEN'T SPECIATED
Sodium tolerant cultivars will grow in soil that kills non-tolerant plants.
There you have speciation.
Non-mudshark white women will not breed with non-whites, and mudshark white women will not breed with racist white men.
There's more speciation.

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>>191521
>If you breed enough potatoes they make slightly different potatoes, this proves everything is related.
You're just proving the whole argument that is made. No... potatoes making other potaotes does not prove your great great ancestor was a weasel or worm or sea sponge. No matter how many worms you breed they will never become a human. They will never become a rose or oak tree or a dove or dandelion or a rhino or anything else but a worm, that's how genes work. You can have your 500 million years... it's just not going to happen. It's against basic understanding of genes, DNA.
The problem is as atheists say, Without evolution atheism becomes unintellectual. So without an alternative there is no reasons to seek to anything else.

Well there always has been and will be an alternative called the truth. And Jesus did not come to preach self-help garbage. That's not why everyone was so interested and still is flocking to Him. But because He has the words of eternal life. Everyone will be spending eternity someplace. I know where I am going. Frankly I care little for those who are determined to fantasy and ignorance of science and history and even reality. But the power of God is there for and to anyone who believes and wants righteousness and loves holiness.

(Luke 4)
And when it was day, he departed and went into a desert place: and the people sought him, and came unto him, and stayed him, that he should not depart from them. And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

Dogs have become the greatest example. From the wolf we have bred endless amounts of variations of wolves or we just call them dogs. Will they ever become a butterfly? No. All we can do is focus genes. Poodles and chihuahuas exist because of us alone; they wouldn't last a week in the wilderness. And you know that with all those high-class dogs they are very delicate and need vet visits often. Because they are not adding anything to the wolf, they are focusing traits and have been diluted to oblivion from the wolf. They are barley keeping together. It is genetic entropy. Just like us compared to the neanderthals, we are the weak bone tiny brain descendants. All the stars in space are running down. And the stars didn't make themselves from nothing spontaousley no reason.

But as I say, you have to believe what makes sense. But unfortunately, people don't really take the time to see what makes sense. And ultimately people will die clinging to whatever nonsense has been taught and thought for them, not even dying on their own understandings let alone God's but that of man's folly of thier current generation.

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Paul wrote almost a quarter of the NT not one third. I wanted to correct that actually that's the only thing I wanted to say.

"Well Paul is a big liar! And so are all christians! Just like everyone else!"
Miraculous things are not exclusive to the truth. Nor goodness. Lots of demonic people have done miraculous things, and anyone can be an upright lawful moral person, none of that proves anything. But there is a proof much greater in the Gospel and in the Lord Jesus Christ who is truth and Son of God.

>>191479
>there are many different types of cows, but they're all cows
Have you ever thought about WHY there are so many types of cows? How did they get there? Do you farm at all? What happens when you breed a certain type of plant long enough? It becomes a different plant! Same with humans, but with millions of years instead of decades of change.

Necrosing this thread because I had to attend Easter service and now I'm getting all depressed about religion again

>>195360
>shit image for topic
>most unoriginal topic ever
>too many replies as it is
>calling it "necro" 
Just re-read the anons posts here: >>190414 >>190431 and ponder. Hedonism and balance, that's all life is about. How much you can have fun and for how long combined with the most wise way to do it, a strategy, a lifestyle, it's all relative. Some life fast and die young and others attempt to live forever to try to get more joy overtime, it's simply pathetic to assume not haivng fun now gets you fun after you die but slaves gonna slave, op even knows the 'faith' card is dumb, so what he should have is a society that actually cares for the citizens serenity when in reality it's the opposite, they want panicked sheep that are too scared, tired, stressed, distracted, to even resist tyranny rather than 
just chill. Cooperate, sure, but chill. 
>>190480
>the/a pepe poster likes christfaggotry 
When did they stop banning pepes? I'm gong to start posting wojaks, pre soy era ones.

>>195441
*'

>>195441
How do I make friends?

>>195517
To become friends with someone, you have to be their friend first.
If this doesn't sound logical, then fuck you.

>>195360
Don't be about religion, but about a relationship with Jesus. Religion only by itself means nothing, don't worry about that, people pray at sports games for their team to win, they pray with religious intensity, it means nothing, and people can dress up and do rituals and good deeds all they want, but religion is not enough, it is outwardly. It is not an inward change by the Spirit.

(I Peter 4)
"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

(Luke 11)
"But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."

(Luke 20)
"Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation."

(Matthew 6)
"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

Jesus was raised, that is easter day. And was seen by many and the power of the ressurection is what propelled the truth across the world, why we call it the first century, because the faith of Christ was pushed by the Saviour's ressurection; defeating death and hell. And certainly don't listen to foolish wicked men who will live apart from God, those who think God loves a little bit of sin, some vices are what makes you human; no. These people are tricked today and pray they are not tricked tomorrow. And God has no reward but pushiment for these sinful presumptous people with no repentence, not a single cry out against sin let alone an actual loathing of sin and ungodly ways, because sinfulness is their idol thing which keeps them from a closer walk with God.
But as a child of God, when bad things come to corrupt us we have grace to forgive us and grace to lead us back on path. You will find no hope or help on these 4chan sites, not from me nor anyone else. They are ugly horrible places with ugly horrible ideas.
And we are ugly horrible people. Jesus is a friend nonetheless, not because you were ever His friend, but because the Lord is love and He made the whole original creation and invented the different men you and I are to be. Jesus has dome the work for your salvation and to perfect you in pure religion 
that you are depressed about.

(I John 4)
"Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."

God our Maker is not a far off entity with a cold emptiness. Religion without God is depressing and cold and empty. Jesus is the heart and image of the Creator. In Him is found oir Father and our salvation and plea to true life and joy and rest. And a cure to all depression.

Don't let anything keep you from God. Not the terrible manmade philosophies people puff themselves with from dead gods and ideas. Not christians or churches or any experience keep you from truth and reality. Because this is about our own soul. God isn't taking handfuls of people, but individuals at a time. Don't let emotions keep from whatever the truth is, eternity is what will matter, heavenly things.
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>>195517
>he didn't make friends in school

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>>189822
Bingo.

But now you have to contend with the inability to participate in religion without the sense of irony that comes from having been steeped in modernity.  We live in a culture that denigrates actual religions while reappropriating our in-born sense of religiousity to political doctrines and brand names— ideological weeds that snuff out the growth of anything even vaguely numinous.

>>189818 (OP) 
Have faith that you, a man of perhaps 25 years, don't already know everything there is to know about life.

Shocking to consider, I know.

>>189818 (OP) 
Would you prefer if you remembered everything for all eternity? Dying lets us wipe the slate clean and start over

>>196022
Of course I did! But as an adult, I mean. It seems that you're just kind of expected to know how to after you become independent.

>>195517
If you have to ask, you'll never get it.
These people will never be able to explain to you what they're doing because they don't have to think about it. It's as natural for them as breathing.
It's not a skill you can learn, like karate or woodcarving. People can detect that you're bullshitting, unconsciously or not.
You'd be struggling to replicate the acts and mannerisms of people who just are that way in the moment. The social uncanny valley. And no matter how much those people want to be friendly to you, help you out, there will always be a voice in the back of their head screaming that something is wrong with you.
You will always be the stranger. You will always be the foreign element. You will always be the outsider.
I'm telling you this as somebody who bitterly wishes that this was explained to me a long time ago and as clearly and as bluntly as I am explaining it to you now. Drop any hopes of mutual friendship and focus on yourself. It'll save you a lot of time and wasted effort.

>>196022
Doesn't really help when they make no effort to keep contact after graduation.
I guess we just weren't friends in the first place, considering that they don't think it's worth it to keep in touch.
>>196072
These people cling desperately to life and fear the oblivion.
I find it comforting.
>>196082
Obligatory faggot calling you a crab in a bucket in 3, 2, 1...
>karate or woodcarving
Wood carving is probably easier to learn, on your own, than karate. Martial arts in general cannot be self-taught.
>People can detect that you're bullshitting, unconsciously or not.
And yet, people who lie as naturally as they breathe seem to get pretty far in life.
I don't understand how they manage it.
>And no matter how much those people want to be friendly to you, help you out
They generally aren't going to be friendly do you unless they're getting paid to do it (either because you're colleagues or something, or they're literally paid to deal with you), or you have a vagina.
>I'm telling you this as somebody who bitterly wishes that this was explained to me a long time ago
Normalfags seem to think that the caring thing to do is to raise kids in a bubble and then just let something else pop that bubble once they're no longer their problem. (graduation etc)

>>196080
>>196086
Traditionally you kept your childhood friends for as long as possible and if you failed you had no friends as an adult just your family instead.

>>196082
Awkwardness is something that has to be unlearned.  Awkward people, as you say, don't know how to do things naturally. They lack spontaneity, not because they don't have it but because it's beaten out of them at a young age, and so they learn never to say what they actually think without careful consideration of whether someone will wound their pride again.  Someone might decide to put you back in your place so you learn to be as opaque and as unobjectionable as you can.  That constant hesitation is why some people can never be more than acquaintances.

The exception to this is people whose theory of mind is stunted for whatever reason, and never learned to grasp social protocols, or to intuit what other people are thinking.  This is something which must be learned.  And obviously it can be learned: level 0 is "don't play with your dick in public" and most people can wrap their heads around that.  It just happens that you don't get arrested for not grasping the further levels so there's less of an impetus to learn them.
>>195517
Step 1. Realize that there are more friendless people today than have probably ever existed.
Step 2. Understand the causes for this.  If there are so many friendless people, then why aren't they friends with each other?
Step 3. Understand what friendship between men consists of.  Is it just having a hobby in common?  Respect?  Mutual reliance?  A sense of being like extended family?

And then because you understand these things deeply, friendship arises spontaneously where it may.

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I'm an atheist and I don't have existential dread, or find the idea of eternal death depressing

In my experience only those who have been raised with religious belief have existential fears like that. They shouldn't have been told a fairy tale but instead the hard truth - you perish forever. Then they wouldn't wrangle with existential dread.

I also don't get this coming from the religious:
>you're a nihilist! You believe in nothing!

Isn't believing that everything is meaningless if there's no eternal life a rather nihilistic belief? THAT's the nihilism.