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Have you guys heard of the dead internet theory? It has basically been going around on several other chans that basically since the time when almost all main websites and search engines are down to a few, that these mega corporations made AI. Large proportions of the supposedly human-produced content on the internet are actually generated by artificial intelligence networks in conjunction with paid secret media influencers in order to manufacture consumers for an increasing range of newly-normalised cultural products.
https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/dead-internet-theory-most-of-the-internet-is-fake.3011/
>>784 (OP) 
It's an interesting theory. I do wonder how necessary it is. The vast majority of internet users are normalfaggots on phones, who interact with social media, and nothing else. It stands to reason then that the vast majority of content would be manufactured or paid for by megacorp backers and spooks. No surprise it's sterile. Not that I reject the idea out of hand, I love ideas like this. It ties into the idea that has been floating around that the human population itself might be much smaller than "officially" recognised. That's one of those ideas which challenges reality as we commonly understand it, if the premise is entertained.
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>>786
This. Why waste vast amounts of resources on advanced AIs when you can pay peanuts to glorified prostitute "influencers" in instagram or whatnot to sway the masses in one direction or another?
Or alternatively - if such technology existed, why would China pay legions upon legions of paid trolls to control the public discourse in its own, walled-in section of the net? What would be the purpose behind the JIDF, Russian troll farms, or American propaganda groups like ShareBlue? Why would companies spend more money on advertising their products than on the products themselves?

The Dead Internet Theory has this typical behavior of cultistfags who insist everyone outside their own, elevated group is crazy/stupid/a sheeple. Nevermind they only cling on to it because of their crippling superiority complex.
>>784 (OP) 
That's a quite disturbing theory. I don't use social media much or whatsoever and on youtube I go around rather small youtube "personalities". 
But it doesn't feel like something off. But the problem is that it must be produced by heavily sterilesed AI, we did see what happens if you leave AI out in the open. 
But yeah, many of the "social websites" might gave these shits.
>>786
Yeah many E-celebs are attention whores and obbsessed with money. even regular celebs at that so it does make sense to pay them on youtube there are ads like this where "BIG" celebs say that this product or whatever is good including regular ads in videos and instagram too.
>>784 (OP) 
I have seen neural-net bots trying to post on IBs. I am not impressed and I doubt they fooled anyone.
>>784 (OP) 
There are some decent chat bots out there that are free. Set a few hundred to like x and dislike y product and you get your dead internet
>>784 (OP) 
I'm not totally agree with this theory, but there a few points I'm in. There are some points that can be explained simpler than that speculative and crazy ideas written in there. It's not so much that we live in an alternative universe where all the shit we interact with was artificially made, but was done by a lot of people new to the Internet. That's the key point. Years ago, surfing on the net was something only nerds or freaks did, but nowadays you're the freak if you don't use it. The Internet is full of normies, people without culture, that use the net as they always have used anything in their lives, as a toy. A toy is something that is given to you, you didn't buy it with your own money (so you won't appreciate it); a toy is something you use when you want and if you don't like it, just criticize it! It's free. 
This is why that oldfag of your link wrote what he wrote. 
Also, all the media, big corps and influential people came here too. It's more the way all these people treat the Internet than a "They Live"-ish thing going on.

Let me comment some things "IlluminatiPirate" from agoraroad said and "cannot be explained":

>I used to be in perpetual contact with a solid number of people across multiple sites. Across the years each and every one of them vanished without a trace. None of them were into /pol/ stuff or anything even remotely questionable or controversial. Yet, they all simply vanished in a puff of smoke, no matter the site, no matter the communication platform. There was no "goodbye" or explanation.

False cause fallacy. Using the same website or either the same account on the site during a lot of time (and I'm talking about a lot of years) It's extremely rare. People change. Their mentality too and so their taste on something. What you like nowadays may not in 5 or 10 years. Or even in a a few months! Or maybe you've had some bad experiences with users of those sites that made you to not come back. It could also be another and totally different scenario: you like what is talked in that site but you've recently found a new/modern-looked site with even more topics you like (so you leave). 

Not saying goodbye or writing a farewell letter doesn't neither justify this. That's more linked with your own values. People are a grab-bag and you won't never know someone thoroughly. It could also be that that person in particular died in an accident, or not, It could also be that he just had to move to another state/country and doesn't have Internet and also his tastes changed by the new people he met there.

> I've seen the same threads, the same pics and the same replies reposted over and over across the years to the point of me seeing it as unremarkable. Simply put thread A would be posted in say 2015 and would get its share of replies or pics, on say /co/ or /a/. Then that very same thread, with the same text, pics, and replies would appear in 2016 and beyond. This often happens in the same year multiple times as well. Of course /pol/ is getting shilled and botposted to death, but why recycle a completely innocent /a/ thread? Who is doing this and why? Stuff like this won't be noticed by your average poster perhaps, but I and other oldfags will inevitably notice it.

Proofs? Do you have those reposted threads archived? If yes, please post them. Also, why are /a/ or /co/ innocent? Those boards cannot have bots? Why not? Do you know that because...? No true scotsman fallacy in the way of "/a/ and /co/ are pure and perfect, but /pol/ not, so I'm right"

And so It goes to "I and other oldfags will inevitably notice it." This is nothing than begging the question fallacy. "I'm an oldfag, so I know a lot about this, so I know more than you, so I'm right, so nothing I say can be refuted".

>I think I saw the same happen on other (non-imageboard) sites, but I can't vouch for it as strongly as the above because of the time I spend there (not much). What I do vouch for is the news. I've seen news about this or that "new and unusual" or "shocking" event year after year after year. But it's the same goddamn event, usually moons or asteroids.
<because of the time I spend there (not much)
ok, this can be answered in what I wrote above.
<But it's the same goddamn event, usually moons or asteroids.
hmmm... what are you talking about?

>Roughly in 2016 or early 2017 4chan was filled with posts by someone or something. It wasn't spam. The conversations with it were in real time, across multiple boards and multiple threads simultaneously. Its English was grammatically correct but odd (I'm not a native English speaker and am thus sensitive to its misuse), similar to how a Japanese person may use it. A sense of childlike curiosity and a childlike intellect emanated from these posts. It posed a LOT of questions, usually as if trying to understand the emotions of the posters it was talking to, as if unfamiliar with human emotions. Communicating with this "poster" was an odd experience, I could sense something was off but not malicious. I am absolutely certain this was an AI of some sorts. This "poster" was active only for about a week, and as far as I know nobody has ever mentioned or noticed this Anon. Its replies were always on topic, but the above mentioned childishness clashed with the apparent knowledge it possessed - it was the knowledge of an adult person, so it wasn't a kid or something of the sort.

It could be an AI that was been tested there for something I don't know or It could be a non-native english speaker just trolling. Also, how do you know that it was "across multiple boards and multiple threads simultaneously"? Again, proofs? Do you screencaps? Threads archived at least?

> Innocent sexual perversion and the horrible reality it spawned. Anon is a pervert and always was one. I am into loli and feet for instance. Why is it that real life and the real world seem to emulate our sexual interests, with a time lag? "I wish to be the little succubus" became an actual thing that actually happens. Pedo activism is also gradually becoming accepted, as is virtually every fetish that was once either a joke or a fantasy of Anons. As said I'm a footfag. When I became aware of it few others were with me, now it's as common as can be, with gigantic number of people who are into it, with huge mountains of hentai and #34 with it etc. Why does the real world bend over backwards to accommodate our weirdest fetishes? It's as if everything is going "Look, look! I created this for you! I made it real!" in an effort to keep us within this world. The results of this are devastating to society, to people, to civilization. Simply put, **** are a thing because Anon fapped to doujins of cute boys in dresses. Once it was an impossible fantasy, not to be taken too seriously. Now it's grim reality. Again: it's as if the real world is using imageboards as a template on what to be and what to do.

The Internet is full with all kind of people. There' have been always existed pedos or people who liked feet, and nowadays with the Internet, why couldn't they use it in their own "benefit"? Entire websites, tags in hentai sites... with al the new tech we are in contact, wouldn't you expect that? If there are people who will follow you, pay you or make contracts with you that make you continue drawing pics of those fetishists, wouldn't you do it? There is all about people that are paid for doing what you like. Another thing is that you download it illegally to masturbate instead of paying for it. And that's not bad. Internet is an international market, you want something, you have it.

>Algorithm fiction. Do you like capeshit, Anon? How about other Hollywood stuff? Music perhaps? Have you noticed how sterile fiction has become? How it caters to the lowest common denominator and follows the same template over and over again? How music is just autotuned nigs and basic blandness? The writer's strike never ended. Algorithms and computer programs are manufacturing modern fiction. No human being is behind these things. This is why anime looms so large - even a simple moe anime has heart because there's actual people behind it, and we all intuitively feel this.

Nowadays movies and music isn't given to us by diabolic AI's. It's all made by, unironically, human beings. How? Like it has always been. The only thing that have changed is the people's taste. Everything revolves around that. Look, I'm not denying today's film and music industry suck, because yes they do, and a lot, but this is based on the principle of supply and demand. If people want shit, they will have it. Bad taste is a problem, but not a massive surveillance-total control movement.

>Fake people. No, not NPC's. Youtube people who talk about this or that, and quite possibly many politicians, actors and so forth may not actually exist. In fact I am sure of it. CGI and deep fakes are far more advanced than we are led to believe, and we can't trust our eyes anymore. Many people, events, news and so on may be wholly fictional.

What does
<ake people. No, not NPC's. Youtube people who talk about this or that, and quite possibly many politicians, actors and so forth may not actually exist. In fact I am sure of it.
have to do with this
<CGI and deep fakes are far more advanced than we are led to believe
??? 
Also
<CGI and deep fakes are far more advanced than we are led to believe, and we can't trust our eyes anymore. Many people, events, news and so on may be wholly fictional.
what? AI,CGI or how-to-do-something that looked realistic aren't bad or evil. If you don't know how those things work don't lie. Taking this, I can say whatever the fuck I want because "nobody can demonstrate it". 

I'm gonna stop right here because this is a big fat texas sharpshooter fallacy. Supposed personal info that I've to believe in and false info without any proven evidence.
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>>821
I know that at the beginning of my post I said "(...) there a few points I'm in". Well, We do know that Big Tech have used (and is continue doing it) techniques to steal your most private info to sell it to 3rd parties for money. That's what Google, FB, Twitter, Spotify and many other companies do through using cookies, malicious ads or their own services. Not only with adtech companies, but with the police, intelligent departments or governments. 

You will know what people may desire by just spying them. To control them and doing to buy your products.
This is not /x/ related anymore but, take a look about this if you want:

>https://archive.vn/RoiNx
>https://archive.is/0oep8
>https://archive.is/MHZzo
>https://archive.ph/U4qWI
>https://digdeeper.neocities.org/index.html
>https://archive.ph/DVikp

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