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I know that finno korean hyperwar is a shitpost, but how much plausible is that human kind fell from grace multiple times?
What if agarthia or hyperborea was real?
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>>699 (OP) 
I honestly doubt this. People always say that Ancient Egyptians were into space and shit because of the pyramids, but the same people tend to forget it took the Egyptians several decades and tens of thousands of workers to build one of the damn things.

Something I'd be more open about would be a lost civilization somewhere in the jungles of Southern America. IIRC they found the outline of a massive Maya city in Guatemala through Lidar scans.
With the Maya, we'd even know what caused the disappearance of these sprawling megalopolises - namely a mix of climate change and crop failures.
The biggest challenge to me for "advanced ancient civilizations" is the total lack of refined metal objects. 
Long, long after "the modern man" is a nuclear shadow in the dirt, humans of the future will be able to discover our trash-piles, our aluminum, high-grade stainless steel, and silicon. These things don't vanish no matter how many millennia you wait or how deep you bury them.
I would buy that non-advanced civilizations have reached preposterously large sizes in times of easy harvests and little disease, but not for very long.
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>but how much plausible is that human kind fell from grace multiple times?
Very likely. We have at least ONE confirmed time it happened with the Bronze Age collapse, which was not a single event but a wombo combo made up of:
>Famines in the most civilized areas of the world at the time, the Middle East
>Earthquakes in areas that don't usually get them, which destroyed tons of infrastructure
>A super costly war against "the sea people" that might as well be anything from da joos to ayy lmaos to proto carthaginians or greco-gaelic pirates
>Technological improvements that practically destroyed the way of life of many
>Climate change due to sun spots destroying historic artifacts

The second time it happened was due to the gradual decline following the fall of the Roman Empire, but that one is more about people just turning dumber with the decades and not knowing how to operate most of Roman tech
Another interesting tidbit: most countries in the old world have reports or stories or myths about a continent sinking in the sea. Now, I don't believe in the old tales of Atlantis, but who's to say that some small or moderately sized island nation of wealthy merchants didn't sink because of seismic shit, baffling the wisemen of old?
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I disagree, in part because we only know very little of our ancients and there's still a ton of stuff to unearth. Another thing that makes me wonder if ancient humans or even a completely different species of hominid had any control over our world is the fact that the time scale we're working with is extremely large. Dr. Stone might be feeding into my delusions, but still.
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>>Technological improvements that practically destroyed the way of life of many
I never got much into the bronze age collapse, but could you tell me what technology was it.
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Also I know about the iron, but what alse and how?
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Loli fuckbots, totally eliminated women from relevance. The femcel uprising that followed was worth it.
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The iron itself was a major factor, but so was the introduction of blades/ spear tips that were cast (i.e, mass-produced) instead of forged.
At least in Mycenaean Greece, the idea is that the highly-centralized palace-style economy could only support a small, elite military force; as having too many soldiers too far away from whatever regent you had invariably sparked rebellions.

Now guess what happens if you have some nomadic tribes who have a much larger number of soldiers by virtue that virtually every male owns a weapon and knows how to fight. And guess what happens if these guys just show up and ransack the local "palace" alongside the regent.

In a way, you could liken it to the end of the medieval age, when knights were increasingly replaced by better peasants armed with pikes, crossbows (and, most important) early gunpowder weapons. Heaving heavy armor and a lifetime of training didn't help when some random peasant could just dismount you from your horse with his pike or flatly shoot you in the face with a crossbow.
In the same way, the nomads with Iron weapons destroyed the small warrior elite of the palace culture by means of superior number and superior weaponry.

Depending on where the entire "hacking wars" thing might go, we may even see a new wave by means of collectivized regular citizens doing digital warfare against various government actors.

PS: In terms of weapons, the introduction of javelins also played a key role; as these could be lethal to the chariots many bronze age armies featured in lieu of cavalry with stirrups.
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