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So, has anyone else tried lucid dreaming yet? Or rather, knows about means how to encourage it? I heard about all sorts of stuff ranging from Tibetan tea to shamanistic drumbeat music while you're dozing off.
For me personally, the most promising approach (mind you, I've never done this myself) came from a radio interview, where someone explained he trained himself to ask whether what he experiences right now is real or a dream every twenty minutes. And strictly so, complete with a phone alarm.
This eventually becomes so habitual that you're also starting to ask yourself whether your current situation is real or a dream even when you are dreaming, and hence breaks the barrier between passive and lucid dreaming.
It's too bad that the dream itself apparently does not like that and will try to pull you back into passive dreaming via all sorts of distractions (and apparently electronics of any sort tend to malfunction inside a dream). But if you can keep up, you basically can look down into your own subconscious and discover stuff your brain conveniently filtered out for you.
Another interesting part (and easy way to check if you're currently dreaming) is to look at any surface with something written on it, look away, and then look back on it again. If you're dreaming, the text should have changed, even if only subtly - words may have changed, individual letters may be crooked or upside-down, and so forth.
I've always wanted to try lucid dreaming, but I can't seem to remember my own "passive" dreams in the first place. How do you start from there?
The easiest way is a dream diary. Problem is that dreams are only stored inside your short-term memory, so if you plan to write them up, you need to do so fast.
So paper and pencil ideally shoud be right next to your bed. One "professional" lucid dreamer I read about even had both installed to be hanging right above him while he slept, all to minimize the amount of movement and conscious thought he had to invest before recording what he dreamed of.
The easiest way I know of is to pinch your nose shut. You'll still be able to breath and it's a pretty simple action compared to looking for something very specific (like writing, mirrors, wall switches, etc).
Assuming anyone has tried this before - do the figures in your dreams turn "hostile" if they realize you are lucid dreaming?
Not necessarily like in Inception where the entire dream in itself comes crashing down, but rather like >>459 (OP) said - other people/your subconsciousness trying to stop you from remaining lucid.
I have this issue where I can't lucid dream no matter how hard I try. I dream a lot and very often, but I don't ever realize that I am dreaming until I wake up. My dreams are also very ridiculous sometimes too. I once had a dream that a guy held a gun up to my head, but the "gun" was literally just his two fingers, and I NEVER become conscious of these silly details until I wake up.
From my experience, it's less about dream figures suddenly going hostile and more about the dream either increasing in speed (rapid, fragmentary expressions rather than full sequences) or just stopping abruptly.
Regarding hostile/antagonistic behavior, I'd assume all dream figures ultimately are reflections of your own consciousness and would react as confused as you would when someone suddenly starts breathing water or something thatalike.
I've heard of using a sound recorder to audibly record experiences. Do you think that would work?
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How does Anon exercise root-level control over his Lucid dreams?
Whenever I reach Lucidity innadream deliberately or accidentally I'm always bound to the dream's rules, the only thing I can consistently control is my own "flight" which in itself has had the same rules in every Lucid dream I've had since I can remember.
Taking off can sometimes require repeating swimming motions while jumping in midair similar to M64 cheats I used when playing around with PJ64 as a kid in order to get it working, and even then it's more like some weird hovering state where my feet provide thrust, the way I lean my torso provides the direction and my arms providing some mild fine control.
The dreams don't allow for plane-like banking to the side and there's always a strong sense of inertia that I have to account for when stopping, it took me years of practice to figure out how to land properly and even these days I sometimes go off-target there's no fall damage but the sheer sensation of the ground coming at you at high speed is somewhat unpleasant, plus I can't invert my body as it always wants to stay upright or slightly leaned forward which is problematic when trying to apply retrograde thrust by leaning back with my feet in front I can only apply full thrust with my legs straight and my feet pointed downwards.
The only variations to this I've experienced are
>the amount of effort it requires to take off
This ranges from engaging flight at will, to "pushing" myself off the ground with swimming motions as mentioned above sometimes with repeated attempts before my feet start to generate thrust and flight mode engages. Sometimes after taking off for the first time subsequent takeoffs are much easier, like the Dream acknowledged me "unlocking" the feature though this isn't always the case.
>the amount of thrust I can generate and the associated inertia
The more inertia, the harder it usually is to take off, accelerate and most importantly stop/land but I can go stupidly fast if I want to. In some dreams the flight inertia is so bad I can't sustain flight and instead do something akin to a big jump with some directional control and/or the ability to "glide" like an autorotating helicopter, whereas in others I'm slower than a Cessna but can fly to and land precisely where I want to.
Outside of these strangely consistent ruurs attempts to directly influence my Lucid dreams through force of will are spotty at best, the most I've ever managed was summoning a shotgun in my arms to fend off a rabid horde of deer that had the voice of Hillary Clinton and were trying to aggressively recruit me to the CIA flight didn't work in that dream abd the shotgun shells ended up being RPGs, which was a bit surprising.
What does work with eerie consistency however is mind-controlling flying vehicles, anytime there's an airplane or spaceship in my dreams I usually grab them to explore my dreamscape because I can not only control them just by thinking but also make them do shit they shouldn't be able to do like VTOL'ing or rapid acceleration/deceleration, though I haven't managed to make an unarmed plane shoot missiles out of an onboard 3D printer like in Ace Combat.
Sometimes I can even force cars to fly, though this is less common as they don't respond to mental commands in most cases and have to be driven by hand.
In my experience they don't notice your lucidity unless you're doing something so off-script that the Dream tries to "correct" itself in response, I've never been attacked simply for gaining lucidity but have managed to set off horde attacks from random NPCs by striking first a few times, though often the NPCs will simply freeze up like statues in response to nonsensical player actions.
You need to control it at a more root or 'meta' layer, perceiving yourself in "1st person" subject perspective makes it much more difficult. Basically, you need to switch to developer mode while still running the "test" instance.
Last night I had a dream about visiting a dentist's office inside a 3-4 floor building, and as I was going outside, some guy in another office shot a doctor, then several people around him, and then looked at me with a very deranged facial expression (his movements were sort of slow and erratic), I began to run, then jumped in between the staircases (that opening in the middle that you can easily jump through in some buildings), grabbing the bars on the side to slow down the fall and take no damage (this works for some reason in my dreams). He just ran after me shooting, and I used such neat tricks to gain distance and eventually leave the premises. Then I got on a verge of waking up, and a thought flashed at me, "wouldn't he use a more tactical approach"? Re-wind, the whole scene repeats, now with a significant difficulty upgrade. The shooter becomes much faster, smarter, and instead of just mindlessly running after me, he stays on the first floor scouting the backyard exit from behind a large window, waiting for me to try to make a pass then shoot me. I think he got a rifle instead of a gun as well, and I got a sense that his proficiency with it increased. I hid behind some backyard object (some vehicle) and began thinking of my exit strategy.
I think I actually got bored with the original dream so decided to spice it up a bit.