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So, once you kick the bucket, what do you think comes next? Hell? Heaven? Reincarnation? Or just some indifferent nothingness?
I don't really know, but I hope there's only peace and restness.
Annihilation. The null state. It isn't that there is "no pain" as much as there is no more you, no more you can therefore not feel pain because something has to be to feel pain, but it can't feel the cessation of pain either. This is why suicide is folly generally, though still understandable in certain "worse than death" fates. It's a fucking bummer and the only thing that brings me any kind of comfort is knowledge of the two consolation prizes: Legend and Progeny. The man whose works are powerful enough to colonize the minds of others is effectively immortal (though his body will wither) and the man who colonizes the wombs of a sufficient number of women is also immortal, genetically speaking. Both of these require Humans to keep surviving, though, or at least in the latter case something smart enough to remember meaningfully.
Dealing with consequences of your existence - with Illusion. After everything is finished up completely, one way or another, Reincarnation into a different body. A cycle of Samsara is eternal until it's broken, after all.
What if we're already living in Hell as a punishment for sins committed in a previous "life"?
A screen showing "You died". Since you are not able to press anything, since you are dead, it stays that way forever.
basically like when you sleep
My theory is somewhere in between a few religions, mostly Christian. When you die normally your soul gets to move on to another life or can be pledged to a god of a pantheon of other religions (aka nephilim and their demonic ghosts that can’t move on or reincarnate) and there’s a bullshit karmic system that enforces it where your karma debt gets controlled by your diety like a shitty lender. Demons are bitter as fuck about being stuck as ghostly assholes so they make it their business to make your life and next life worse.
The real God almighty who made the world got tired of this shit so he did the whole Jesus dying as an innocent man so that if you get saved by Christ he takes your karmic debt on and breaks the jewey system. Your soul, free bullshit karma debt goes to a proper heaven. I don’t know much beyond what that means but that’s what I’ve kinda surmised.
How did you come to this conclusion?
I believe your pure consciousness/soul gets absorbed into the trees, then gets transferred into new living things via new saplings/babies, just like the rest of your body.
The spirit moves on to a new ethereal plane. It is the body that dies
Death isn't real. The universe and ourselves are all expressions of a higher order of being or ultimate individual 'god' consciousness, and there is no individual outside of the collective experience of all individual consciousnesses comprising the godhead/one consciousness that establishes the universe in a knowable form, and knows it has established it as such through that experience of its creation by its distributed consciousness in individuals. An individual consciousness inhabiting a physical form ceasing to function biologically continues in some form as a component of the whole independent of its physical form.
That's what I think anyway.
God only created 144 000 souls.
He lowered those souls down to Earth, slowly, throughout time.
We are here to grow from a seed into a tree. We're here to learn to use our free-will. To do that, we must fight temptations and see why they're bad.
Once we die, our soul goes to Heaven, where there'll be no temptations. There'll be no romances, sex, gorging, or any other indulgences.
We'll sit next to God and stare at a peaceful ocean for all eternity.
When the last soul has ascended, God's going to delete this universe.
I think It's like eternal sleep and dreaming of your passed life and maybe you'll have the chance to choose what you want to leave again...or maybe you will be haunted forever for your miserable mistakes etc etc
Infinite time. Everything will happen. In all conceivable orders and variations. The heat death is nothing, I suppose
All 3. Heaven and Hell is at the end of a cycle, they're not indefinite states though. Reincarnation between each life. Souls are fluid, all souls on Earth can make up a whole in a greater being and similarly your soul could inhabit a swarm of rodents for example, your finger could be a rodent, your toe a cow. Though it's not random, certain souls or soul fragments are quantum entangled
If you ever went to sleep, you should have an idea of how death feels like, more or less. Sometimes it's more painful though.
Anon at >>1157 has it pretty well-covered, but I have to drop say something in regards to suicide: If you've been extremely-stressed-out and suicidal as a result, 'killing yourself will not erase the pain'.
Below is a story I heard from an astrally-proficient anon in 8/fringe/ who dealt with a friend who killed himself.
>Anon has friend
>Friend is generally living a shitty life
>Friend decides killing himself will make everything better. and actually kills himself.
>Anon tries to astral-project and meet up with his dead friend.
>Friend is still stressed out and freaking out. He is presented with two choices: A gate that leads into a bright light, and gate that leads into a literal world of acid.
>Friend's emotions are acting up.
>Friend ends up running into the gate of acid, starts screaming in agony, and anon cannot do anything further
>I get no more context if anything happened or if anon ever saved his friend at all from that thread.
Another thing is this, based off what I've learned from a compatriot who spends a lot of time astral-projecting, generally most souls will have two months of physical time (time gets really weird beyond the physical realm) before they cross over into a new life.
Shit, man, that's fucked. So is this acid world the Lake of Fire or something?
There are only two possible explanations, either complete nonexistence like >>440 says or (since I am a firm believer in Christ) you go to heaven where your sins are weighed against you. If you demand entry in the name of Christ as He atoned for all your transgressions, then you enter. If you are not a believer in Christ, you're sent to hell where Stan tortures you out of spite for all eternity. All the other religions make no sense whatsoever and are pulled out of some monk/pagan/imam's ass and only preach generic watered down shit like "just be good bro" without any objective indicator of what is and isn't good (which is why sandpeople see no problem with blowing themselves up and taken a family of five with them since "allah says it's justified"). or like that retarded comic by the same guy who did the stolen bike comic and thinks you just enter spectator mode for whoever you want, because without objective truth you can say whatever you want and believe it until reality comes calling with a speeding 18 wheeler connecting with your face and you're staring St. Peter in the face. I don't promote Pascal's Wager, I think that you should believe in God and really mean it and not just to save your ass because it's the "better option", believing in something out of fear is not the proper way to believe in something, but it all comes down to only three possible realities: if God is real, then it's either Heaven or Hell. If He's not, then eternal nothingness. Simple as that.
From Pistis Sophia ch. 131
<Mary answered and said unto the Saviour: "My Lord, surely the rulers (archons) do not come down to the world and compel the man until he sinneth?"
>The Saviour answered and said unto Mary: "They do not come down in this manner into the world. But the rulers of the Fate, when an old soul is about to come down through them, then the rulers of that great Fate who [are] in the regions of the head of the æons,--which is that region which is called the region of the kingdom of Adamas, and which is that region which is in face of the Virgin of Light,--then the rulers of the region of that head give the old soul a cup of forgetfulness out of the seed of wickedness, filled with all the different desires and all forgetfulness. And straightway, when that soul shall drink out of the cup, it forgetteth all the regions to which it hath gone, | and all the chastisements in which it hath travelled. And that cup of the water of forgetfulness becometh body outside the soul, and it resembleth the soul in all [its] figures and maketh [itself] like it,--which is what is called the counterfeiting spirit.
Maybe it's a dream, maybe nothing else is real.
>All the other religions make no sense whatsoever
How in the Fuck does the Christian model make sense? What makes you assume that Stan wants to torture me? What makes you assume you understand God's actual morals or that we even need its forgiveness?
The Heaven/Hell bullshit is actually one of the more unbelievable models because as Pascal demonstrated, it seems more like a way to threaten cowards into joining your religion rather than anything based on genuine divine insight.
>join my cult, goy!
>because if you don't, my god will send you to Extra Doubleplus Hell forever and ever and ever
<sounds like bullshit, bro
>CaN U PrOvE mE wrOnG???
Hell in general is just a way to threaten people into doing what you want and is a power fantasy for people who can't do shit. Christianity basically just took that and said "Yeah, well MY Hell is even worse and it only happens to unbelievers!".
you go to heaven or hell and thats the end of it
Basically, your soul/spirit will be on the reincarnation wheel until it reaches maturity and become one once again with God/The Source/Abraxas. You must cut the influence of the archons/negative energy/lower density beings and strengthen your connection with the source every day to avoid reincarnation.
That is basically what modern Hinduism says. But it seems it was added in from brown people adding their myopic depression for why their life sucks. But leaving out the reason why which goes back to people not being able to maintain a comfy civilization without majority European Males.
Depends on what you believed in
- if you believed in any abrahamic religion then jesus/ yahweh / allah will appear and say "you have to go back on earth, your mission is not finished". They'll review your whole life and say "you made a mistake here and there, you have to repay, you have to return on earth to fix your mistakes"
- if you believed in buddhism then buddha will appear and say you have to reincarnate
- if you didn't believe in anything then a deceased family member / friend / loved one will appear and say you have to reincarnate
In any case all these figures are not the real thing, they are shapeshifting alien races, they want you to reincarnate so they can feed off your negative energies on earth once again for another cycle. They are false beings of light, you should raise your own vibrations to see through their lies and refuse this reincarnation
Now here is some made up nonsense I can get behind: Defiance! All my homies kill gods!
Humans are almost assuredly not our creator's chosen people, so I assume that if we get an afterlife at all, then it's probably going to be a really shitty one. At least compared to the afterlife that the other guys are getting.
>Guarded by Councils of Star Beings
What do the star beings mean by this?
>Humans are almost assuredly not our creator's chosen people
this is mostly likely the correct answer, anybody who has had contact with aliens spiritually can tell you Jesus/Satan/aliens that trapped us and their friends show up when you get too close to scare you. We are on a Alien Ant Farm.