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Not speaking in behalf of other anons but I personally get no joy out of discussing this shit.
Being able to speak your piece against niggerfaggotry is why these sites happened in the first place, but deliberately reviewing these manmade horrors beyond >our comprehension feels like forcing yourself to stare at the sun. It hurts and there's not much else to it.

>>310066
I agree.
I see no point in this thread at all.
Niggerfaggot kike propaganda in vidya (and other media) became so blatant that even jewtubers and normalfags are talking about it, so I see no reason to talk about it here too.

>>310066
I just assumed it was niggerpill's usual hot air bellowing.

>>310011 (OP) 
Every employee at blizzard deserves death for what they did to my gnome gf

>>310066
Look at the friday night thread. Innovative tactics are in full force because some jew somewhere is afraid of a hundred or so neckbeards on a Malaysian bath toy appreciation forum.

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>>310066
Cataloguing or at least reporting on newly discovered censorshite does serve a purpose, though you're right that the subject has been discussed thoroughly enough by Anon standards.

>>310107
It's a good idea (and deepfreeze was supposed to fill that role) but you're always going to run into the problem of disruptors and tryhards turning whatever knowledge-sharing platform you make into noise, because it turns out "a nigger exists!!!!" doesn't count as an existential threat for most people and writing as if it is doesn't exactly prepare people for listening to you when you try to tell them about actual existential threats.

>>310107
From what fucking company did this come from and why is it legal in any way?

>>310111
Most people would rather live in ignorance as their world crumbles in around them.

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>>310111
It's a classic case of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. If someone calls out so many false positives that people ignore him when something real comes up, he's fucked up so badly that he actually made the people he was trying to warn more vulnerable to threats.

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>>310123
These slides were shared on old 8chan and other undesirable parts of the Internet in 2018, at the time it wasn't known which company they came from or if they were real but the announcement of Anthem several months later point to Bioware/EA as the most likely candidates.

>>310107
>Cataloguing or at least reporting on newly discovered censorshite does serve a purpose
That purpose being to constantly overwhelm you with new information, reducing you to a state of paralysis from which there is no escape. If you know whom your enemies are and how they act in a culture war, then the way to fight them is to make art, not to scream at people on the internet.

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>>310179
>to constantly overwhelm you with new information, reducing you to a state of paralysis from which there is no escape
Well put, well said, well done.

>>310011 (OP) 
>For example i came across this yellow paint thing in a game that i tried out. The absolutely amazing part was that this was literally in the start, right as you started out.
I have no idea what is controversial about what looks like some yellow sheet. Did I miss some moralfagging event?
>>310012
Orcs obviously represent niggers so greenskins is obviously heckin racist.
>>310016
God forbid you'd be able to roleplay in a MMORPG. Or have fun, for that matter.
>I got what you need unzips
Peak

>>310107
>>310148
FOMO is helluva drug. I had to train myself to stop falling for it because it's so omnipresent. Also why I always install an ad blocker and refuse to use programs that don't let me hide ads entirely.
If schools were useful they'd teach about all these manipulation tricks.

>>310123
>why is it legal in any way?
legally doesn't apply to the chosen people, goyim.

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>>310200
>Did I miss some moralfagging event?
It's the next evolution of the objective marker, literally flashing bright colors in front of the normalfag's eyes to attract it to the next part of the level like that neuron monkey meme. It's become visual shorthand for "this game was designed for retards."
>peak
So they should be right up your alley.

>>310179
How are people gonna know which art is the good one?

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>>310011 (OP)  
Not an MMO person myself, but I think the most insulting part about censorship in live service games compared to a normal game is that the old version exists only in memories and screenshots, except for a lucky few like WoW where turboautists dumped the assets to build server emus. Hopefully SKG will put a stop to that in the future, by force of law if necessary.

>>310179
No, the purpose is so that when you wonder "is game X censored?" you can look it up and quickly see verifiable consensus on it. Even the problem >>310111 notes isn't really that bad, since if it's properly designed you can just filter tags by your definition of "censored" and ignore anything you deem schizoshit.

>>310206
>How are people gonna know which art is the good one?
>>310208
>No, the purpose is so that when you wonder "is game X censored?" you can look it up and quickly see verifiable consensus on it.
These are both issues dismissed by the same principle: you can tell just by looking at it. Culture has reached the point where the people who are making it are no longer subtly subversive gen X/millennial artists who make cool stuff but happen to have strange political fetishes that they believe the world must be force fed, and the best vector for advancing ideology is no longer hot women in black latex.

Rather, the system of ideological enforcement has become so streamlined (and more to the point, alternatives to the big social media sites and algorithms have become so atrophied and suppressed) that there is effectively no longer any friction between the fucked up ideas The Powers That Be want the average person to live by, and the ideas present in art and the systems by which art is approved for mass popularity. Blackrock pays you 6 gorillion dollars to put a fat black dyke in your game, and you do. The sensitivity readers invite you to a struggle session to defend why you were wrong for having dared have a male protagonist in your game, and you submit. It's all just communism wearing a different suit.

It's been 12 years since gamergate. All your enemies have revealed themselves for what they are. The Epstein Files are public. You do not fight this by cataloguing it (for whom, exactly? answer me that), you fight it by creating something beautiful and true that stands against ugliness. Make a good game with a low poly catgirl with a big butt and you'll accomplish more to AWAKEN THE SLEEPERS than any number of forum threads.

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>>310269
You're trying too hard to sound deep
>you can tell just by looking at it
No, glancing at Kawaii Loli Pantsu Explosion Gaiden 7 SSS, you're not going to magically know it's been subtly censored.

Nor are you going to know when the censorship happened, who's fault it is, which versions are how censored, nor whether claims of censorship by others are bullshit.

All of you are a bunch of tryhards who can't see that we just have call out the trannies for being a bunch of niggerfaggots.

>>310284
>You're trying too hard to sound deep
Not an argument.

>No, glancing at Kawaii Loli Pantsu Explosion Gaiden 7 SSS, you're not going to magically know it's been subtly censored.
No, I will. Games like that are always censored - and they are always quite bad, but that's an unkind truth that many otaku are unwilling to accept.

>who's whose fault it is
And what are you going to accomplish with this information? How will you destroy your enemies so they stop censoring things?

>>310294
You're still trying too hard to sound like le based white man of wisdom. You're not going to "destroy your enemies" by pouring your life and what's left of your financial future into a game that (let's be honest) maybe a thousand people will buy at the most, assuming you don't get debanked the moment it looks like it might take off. If you go into it with the mindset of "owning the kikes" you can cut that number by a factor of at least 10 because identity politics kills creativity and you will end up making the equivalent of those disgusting AI slop memes. You do it because you want to share something with your friends and damn everything else; if you do it right and get real lucky it might make it big. Or you could drop a plane full of napalm on that pedo island in Florida, I don't care.

>>310298
>identity politics kills creativity
Identity politics for Europeans put us on the moon, literally, you dumb brown animal.

>>310299
>oh shit I don't have an argument
<muh nazis! b-brown!!
Thank you for proving my point; if your brain hadn't been rotted by psyops you would have made an actual point.

>>310300
Identity politics for Europeans put us on the moon. Such technology and effort is objectively speaking, the most creative endeavors around. If you meant creativity in terms of art, that too was covered with plenty examples in history of identity politics for Europeans. You cannot get around this statement and these facts.

Only a non-White would go ape shit over saying 2 + 2 = 4 like this.

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>>310299
>Identity politics for Europeans put us on the moon
How the hell did you come to this conclusion?

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>>310304
The international Best Goy competition put >us on the moon, not the glory of the Superior Aryan Race. Or to put it in language you can understand: you are reverse oreo, the only thing white about you is your skin, on the inside you are black brown gorilla monkey jeet nigger poo poo pee pee.
>>310306
This is your brain on post-2015 /pol/.

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>>310307
If National Socialist Germany wasn't identity politics for Europeans (and Germans more specifically) in distilled form, I don't know what is. Do you seriously want me to painstakingly educate you fags on all their engineering and creative feats, which led to jets, early computers, soaring early technologies in communications, rocketry, and countless other realms which lead to men being on the moon you goddamn apes?

Yes, even the United States with its rigid racial quotas pre-forced integration / de-segregation in education, academia, and business which led to soaring success was identity politics.

Did I get trapped on an image-board with Ben Shapiro this Sunday? Jesus Christ.

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>>310309
>paki larper still can't explain HOW identity politics impacted said feats.

It was never about agreeing or disagreeing.
It was never about being right or wrong.
It was never about ego.
It was about HOW you stupid arrogant cum stain.

>>310298
>You're not going to "destroy your enemies" by pouring your life and what's left of your financial future into a game that (let's be honest) maybe a thousand people will buy at the most
<no, you HAFTA DESTROY YOURSELF when maekgin gaaem!
So therefore it's better to pour your life into writing down all of your enemies' cultural victories?

>>310310
<paki larper
What? This is probably the best piece of evidence provided that you are a shitskin, as I guessed about you two 'anons'. Only a jeet would use another jeet as an an insult like this.

>>310312
>deflection

>>310311
Of course not retard. The point is if you're going to pour your life into something, make sure you're doing it with something you genuinely enjoy enough to make it worth it to you rather than to spite your enemies, otherwise you're going to hate yourself at the end, it's going to be shit and people will notice. Why do you think the screws have been tightened so hard in the last few years? The jew machine replaced mostly-honest dupes that had real ideas and skills with useful idiots and even normalfags are noticing, albeit usually on a subconscious level.

>>310313
Your entire existence is predicated on a few White guys in khaki shorts conquering your entire country (jeetlandia aka india) despite numbering in the billions as the brown clones you are. All of modern technology and invention, as I said before, comes from European identity politics. It's the reason you even have the ability to pollute this /v/ thread, brown.

>>310318
Speaking to subhumans is a waste of time, you might as well just yell at a brick wall. There isn't a soul inside there to connect with, there isn't a consciousness inside of there to communicate with. That thing is less than a dog, it simply wears a skin that vaguely resembles a man.

>>310320
<Like playing chess with a pigeon.

>>310320
Don't beat yourself up like that.

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>>310307
>>310310
>>310313
https://inv.nadeko.net/embed/_Pj4L7C2twI

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>>310294
>they are always quite bad, but that's an unkind truth that many otaku are unwilling to accept.
<vidya, on /v/? ugh, pathetic, get a hekkin productive chungus hobby!
Hahaha, oh man, there it is, just like always.

FUCK OFF

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>>310321
>Like playing chess with a pigeon.
I forgot that pigeons just shit all over everything, exactly mirroring the talking animal in human form i.e. jeet that I'm arguing with, which is what you probably intended exactly.

>>310335
Pigeons at least have an excuse because they literally cannot hold it in like a human. Jeets have none.

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>>310353
>finally
>this is it
>this is the post that will convince everyone that it's over™
Farting out the window will never build the Empire State Building no matter how much you do it.

>>310331
Why are you making up things to reply to?

>>310377
it's a schizo thing, you wouldn't get it

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>>310377
I'm not the one dismissing censorship of particular media by post-facto shitting on that media.

Your contrarian based-er-than-thou tradcuck LARP cope can't deflect from the fact stuff that wasn't censored before is getting censored later, in ways that are not always conspicuous.

>>310269
I largely agree with you but censorship has gotten insidiously subtle in the past few years, 20 years ago (or hell, 10-13 years ago) it was usually not difficult to tell when something had been obviously ((( adjusted ))) for local demographics while nowadays censorship outside Treehouse/the US often "censors" the smallest, most benign things you'd never notice were censored without playing the uncensored version back to back, it's especially vile when they don't strictly "censor" outright but rather subtly rewrite sentences/phrasings to shift the subconscious perception usually in an emasculating sense because ESG.
This shouldn't discourage (You) from fighting back, but how do these alterations not deserve to be catalogued and written down, especially in an age where children grow up in walled garden digital ecosystems that actively discourage mental freedom by design?
If anything cataloguing it can serve to inspire others to act against it on their own volition it certainly pushed me into learning nipponese, just don't go around pretending it magically solves every problem.

>>310382
>dismissing censorship of particular media by post-facto shitting on that media
Where did I say or imply this? I've only posted as ID:090048 and ID:6c891f in this thread. It's a sad but simple fact that small, bad games are way easier to censor without any uproar compared to big ones, and the context in which these things are done is also a huge factor.

I remember when the first wave of Sony censorship was happening around 2017-18, and frequently this process would play out:
>Oppai-rincess Heroes: Lustful Dancers of Sex Pow! : ER is announced for console
>It immediately announces censorship to comply with Sony policy
>"Hmm, is this game any good?"
>Look up gameplay and trailers
>Instantly tell that it's a bog standard party-based dungeon crawler made in Unreal/Unity with shit performance, uninspired mechanics, and underwhelming fanservice
>"Ah."

According to the imaginary narrative you've constructed, I'd start chortling at these poor otaku for not having their beloved sex game to play; truthfully, I'd love for censorship to be done away with entirely and let people play whatever garbage they want. But if the game is bad, it's hard to make people care about it. Past a certain point, cataloguing every single instance of censorship serves no purpose but to reinforce your own powerlessness in a cycle of learned helplessness.

But then I shouldn't expect many to understand this given that my advice to become a game dev or artist was earlier interpreted as "make one game out of spite and kill yourself when it doesn't become an Undertale."

>>310395
>how do these alterations not deserve to be catalogued and written down
I suppose I believe that there is already a critical mass of these things which exist and can be shown in a persuasive manner.
>especially in an age where children grow up in walled garden digital ecosystems that actively discourage mental freedom by design?
I hope you aren't seriously suggesting that taking an iPad baby and giving him a redpill on video game censorship will land. Kids who are birthed by cattle are often doomed to be cattle far before they have any choice in the matter, and far before they develop self-agency.

>>310382
But grapes are poisonous to foxes

>>310438
>But then I shouldn't expect many to understand this given that my advice to become a game dev or artist was earlier interpreted as "make one game out of spite and kill yourself when it doesn't become an Undertale."
Hey, I'm the asshole who made that post. Don't try to twist my words. The point I was trying to make was that forcing yourself to make a game just to own the kikes isn't that much better than making a game to own the chuds because in both cases it's a lot of work for what's usually negative value at the end that will sour you on making other things in the future. Instead, take this vast wasteland as an invitation to fill it with something you always wanted to make.
>Kids who are birthed by cattle are often doomed to be cattle far before they have any choice in the matter, and far before they develop self-agency.
But you don't know for sure until you try. I'm sure a lot of people were raised to be retarded libs by their retarded lib parents and had their heads exploded when the five guys story lead into actual documented evidence of their thought leaders being total dickheads.

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>>310269
>you fight it by creating something beautiful and true that stands against ugliness
>>310443
>take this vast wasteland as an invitation to fill it with something you always wanted to make.
<"Don't twist my words"

And here we reach synthesis where you argue in favor of my original point. Thread's done; pack it up.

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>>310438
>Where did I say or imply this?
You just did it again, one man's trash and all that. But I'll be charitable and assume you're merely making a dispassionate claim of fact about how
>small, bad games are way easier to censor without any uproar compared to big ones
We've had widely acclaimed non-SJW flagships like Automata and Stellar Blade subject to silent subtle censorship, only thanks to steely-eyed weebs catching it in the act and pinpointing blame for each transgression at the store/platform/localizer/publisher/dev level, for pushback that ultimately got most of it rolled back, and gave good devs the morale to find better sponsors in the future.
>I suppose I believe that there is already a critical mass of these things which exist and can be shown in a persuasive manner.
That has a purpose too, sure. For instance the "ugly on purpose" case studies of female characters drawn from real women modeling all looking like trannies, while male models survive unscathed or even sexed up, to show even the most stubborn normalfags how bad it really is. But there is another angle where an arbitrary representative sample isn't enough, and constantly updated comprehensive examples are necessary:
>my advice to become a game dev or artist
We also need to keep tabs on our own. For instance, KCD1 was unabashedly anti-SJW and the devs were uniformly outspoken on their artistic choices with eloquent arguments that could've come from any anon. Then without any warning signs aside from perhaps the Embracer sellout, KCD2 was deeply censored in ways that weren't apparent until well into the game, on top which when leaks exposed this the devs lied through their teeth clear until shortly after release, and once the truth became undeniable now sometimes insist they were under duress! Looks deceive, only accountability can be trusted.

>>310512 
Anon's point was that no external motive can lead to good art, only the work itself, for its own sake.

>>310536
Come on anon, we all knew that KCD1/2 main dev is a jew, he said so when attacked by the left when pushing the first game.

>>310442
This is why we all need a fox wife. unrelated to your post

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>>310557
That'd just be apples instead of grapes

>>310536
>Stellar Blade
A reminder that Stellar Blade still remains censored to this day.

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>>310562
.01% censored.

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>>310561
>left two
wait a second, I recognise those faces

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>>310564
Still censored.

>>310567
Eve blood covered finisher, but aside from that what else?

>>310568
>CrimeR
>the "now decensored! look we're based please buy" costumes still have less skin showing than the pre ESG compliance version from the preview
>IIRC dismemberment is still nerfed in all versions
That's not counting any self-censorship done because of the fallen, subhuman nature of the gook devs.

>>310569
>Hard R = Nigger
>Crime R = Nigger
ele
>costumes
Those were all restored and they even included the censored ones, I do remember they toned down the transparency, but I "think" they undo the transparency thingy.
>dismemberment
Oh, didn't know about that one.

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>>310564
No, It's still censored. I can very clearly remember the controversy and how it ended. I also remember the retards that conveniently forgave those developers even though almost everything they complained about still remained censored. I cant even recall if they brought back anything they censored. Didn't they just add some new costumes and then the cattle forgave them?. All i do know is that the things they censored still remains censored. You're also pushing a shill narrative that this company is somehow anti-gay which make no sense. A literal shill image trying to convince people to BUY it.
>>310568
Costumes are still censored.
>>310570
>Those were all restored 
This is a easliy disprovable lie.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250603000401/https://www.freestellarblade.com/black-pearl
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601011751/https://www.freestellarblade.com/blue-monsoon
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601005749/https://www.freestellarblade.com/cybernetic-bondage
https://web.archive.org/web/20250603000300/https://www.freestellarblade.com/cybernetic-dress
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601005749/https://www.freestellarblade.com/daily-denim
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601005749/https://www.freestellarblade.com/holiday-rabbit
https://web.archive.org/web/20250603000209/https://www.freestellarblade.com/kunoichi
https://web.archive.org/web/20250603000245/https://www.freestellarblade.com/midsummer
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601005749/https://www.freestellarblade.com/moutan-peony
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601005749/https://www.freestellarblade.com/ocean-maid
https://web.archive.org/web/20250601005749/https://www.freestellarblade.com/stargazer-suit
https://web.archive.org/web/20250603000328/https://www.freestellarblade.com/unknown
>>310569
>Hard R
>CrimeR
I was just about to mention that as well

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Wasn't stellar blade censored because of the korean government, not ((( market pressure )))?

Looking at them side to side - the model was also changed her ass & hips aren't quite as large but it's like a slight difference.

>>310559
Holo is a wolf, not a fox. Doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy a wolf wife.

>>310588
Doh, right.

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>>310576
>Version 1.0 to 1.003
So do you have how everything looks with Version 1.4.1?
>freestellarblade is dead
Maybe stellar blade got freed? :^)
>>310583
Nah, it was soyny that told them to censor the game, that is why they are not joining soyny to publish the second game or they will censor the game before releasing anything. Only time will tell.

>>310583
Is there really a difference? Honestly.

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>>310583
If it was the Korean gov, then TFD's visible camel toe costumes wouldn't exist.

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>>310066
>I personally get no joy out of discussing this
Then why click on the thread? Are you browsing zzzchan at gunpoint?

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>>310590
>it was soyny that told them to censor the game
This is just shifting blame. And if i do recall correctly they did also make a post saying that the game was now uncensored which it isnt. They are just a bunch of lying gook fucks
https://web.archive.org/web/20240628034942/https://www.freestellarblade.com/

>>310590
>So do you have how everything looks with Version 1.4.1?
Okay, so refreshing my memory reading around, it appears events were roughly as follows:
>prerelease materials and demos are public
>commercial release
>censorship evident both during development and on release
>day 1 patches
>more censorship
>huge controversy erupts, various excuses are offered including Sony, possible copyright disputes with IRL clothing brands, etc., devs lie that they are going to reverse censorship, but actually never have to this day
>what actually does happen in further patches is new outfits are introduced in later versions, some much smuttier than the ones that are still censored
>also, there is no further censorship after the initial day 1 patch
>mods on PC of course reverse clothing censorship, though I don't think blood decals and dismemberment were ever restored
>in spite of SHIFT UP not explicitly blaming Sony for censorship or other shenanigans, they subsequently dumped Sony as a publisher both for the Switch port and the sequel Blood Rain
So it appears the outcome of fan activism was, at best, to halt further damage and shift future business in a healthier direction, but the gooks did indeed lie and the truth of the matter will probably never come out publicly due to reasons of professional etiquette/cultural autism.

>>310649
>1.003 Version
Do you have a comparasion against the outifts in Version 1.4.1?
>>310651
>though I don't think blood decals and dismemberment were ever restored
Yeah, those were from a promo video, 1.00 doesn't have that.

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>>310615
>I deliberately entered a thread full of things that I do not like
Do you enjoy the subject of this thread, "Woke/Progressive shit in games"?

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As much as I love the Caligula games, there's no denying they contain some gay shit.

>>310747
Another one of those splendid Atlus published games. Atlus is basically japanese woke ambassador at this point since they've been bought by Sega in 2013 so they only publish woke shit including Pronounsona.

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>>310747
WEW!

>>310747
The biggest subtle indicator that something is going to have wokeshit in it is "they-them"ing characters with obvious determinate sexes. For the ESL's in the room, they and them can be used to refer to singular people in English only when their sex is not determinate for reasons such as the person being referred to being a hypothetical, being somehow obscured from vision, etc. Anything else is grammatically incorrect retardation done entirely by the mentally ill and forced into dictionaries within the last 5 to 10 years. To some extent it has spread through modern media independently of the initial wave because of rising illiteracy, however, those same functionally illiterate people don't usually produce media.

If you see any piece of media refer to an obviously male or female character as "they", that is a gigantic warning sign that you are going to encounter wokeshit in that media. It doesn't have to be some retarded "enby", even just doing it in passing to someone who is known to be male or female either by having been identified as such or having been displayed in some way so that it is obvious is a red flag. You will be shocked when you start noticing just how many times this comes up and just how accurate it is.

>>310772
I see the so-called "wokeshit" as language, logic, and culture poisoning. It is meant to destroy language through misuse and corruption of the meaning of words, break the logical thought process by way of censoring and attacking the "wrongthink," and culture by attacking cultural value that have existed for thousands of years. My greatest issue with the "anti-woke" movement is their arguments are too shallow and lack understanding of what is being attacked.

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>>310772
>For the ESL's in the room, they and them can be used to refer to singular people in English only when their sex 
No. You default to him or he as has been common throughout history or you just use "him or her"  "he or her" etc
>b-but shakespeare
Literally no one referred to someone of unknown sex as they or them until recently. I have been alive before this newspeak started spreading so i do remember. Also heres a great example of steam changing something that has been the standard since forever. Now if what you claim as "they" or "them" was common then why would steam only change it a decade after to it?

>>310777
them

>>310777
Trips of potential truth, eh? Well, I'd like to learn more about the Shakespeare thing because I've seen that used as an explanation for the "proper" use of they and them for non-indicatives over what I believe used to be "assume him or his until the subject is proven to be a woman"
Is the use of the aforementioned plurals in the Englishman's plays a misunderstanding then?

Also, humorously, Shakespeare himself could be called "They" since there's that theory that many different writers were behind his works.

>>310777
Factually and historically wrong, kill yourself faggot tranny.

>>310777
>No. You default to him or he as has been common throughout history or you just use "him or her"  "he or her" etc
You aren't even talking about the same thing that I just posted. It has been considered grammatically correct since well before either of us were born that you can use the words they or them to refer to a human being of indeterminate sex (and also generally indeterminate identity). Using those same terms to refer to a human being of determinate or visible sex is an extremely new practice promoted for political reasons in order to prop up the mentally ill. We are literally not talking about the same thing, I have no idea why you even replied with this.

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>>310776
>I see the so-called "wokeshit" as language, logic, and culture poisoning. It is meant to destroy language through misuse and corruption of the meaning of words, break the logical thought process by way of censoring and attacking the "wrongthink," and culture by attacking cultural value that have existed for thousands of years.
Basically, yes. Forgive me for linking a jewtube video for once (just plug it into whatever invidious instance is working right now or yt-dlp it, I can't keep track of that shit), but you might want to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ynCVmw5AWk and look through some of the sources in https://www.hilarylayne.com/p/very-carefully-educated-to-be-idiots . It'll help a lot of contemporary bullshit make more sense.
Essentially, a lot of English-language public schools are not teaching kids to parse sentences. They are instead teaching them a kind of political word association game called "critical literacy." Students are trained to look at sentences, notice which words "feel" like specific ideologies or sexual identities, and assign a political or sexual coding to it based off that. The resulting graduates struggle to get through a paragraph, and are so functionally illiterate that a recent study found most English majors at an American university could not understand several pages of a Charles Dickens novel, and had no idea they couldn't.
It gets worse. You know how nowadays a bunch of trannies call random shit "ǝɹoɔsuɐɹʇ" because they pick out isolated elements of a story and say they "feel" pǝpoɔsuɐɹʇ? Have you noticed how a lot of supposed right-wing posters talk about media in exactly that way? That's probably critical literacy at work. The internet is filling up with mental cripples who cannot understand grammar, logic, or context on an absolutely bizarre level, as they believe reading and artistic interpretation are a vibe detection game. It does not occur to them that words or artistic elements can be combined to produce different results. They pick out random bits of whatever they see, assign it all an identity of suɐɹʇ/pnɥɔ/marxist/fascist/queer/whatever, pat themselves on the back for fully understanding it, and shit out a response based off their impression.
Shit's fucked. 

Pardon the upside-down text here; I set off the spam filter earlier.

>>310772
There's one final use of 'they', which I used myself (and still do) before the woke phase of its use: intentionally obscuring the sex / gender of a (real) person being referenced, under very specific circumstances, with good reason to obscure it. I believe this is one origin which the woke users made their argument, as they are similar at first glance.

For example, if you said: 'A friend told me so-and-so about you maybe needing help.' On the off-chance the listener would infer the identity of the friend being referenced if the sex was used, which is not desired, using 'they' or 'their' here is correct. By analogy, it's obscuring vision *with good cause and little loss in clear communication*.

The main difference is that complexity and ambiguity is being introduced intentionally with very good cause, while with the woke singular, needless complexity is being introduced and causes confusion. The priority of all language is clear communication, with the sole exception being diplomacy and negotiation to avoid severe consequences, which the former accounts for and the latter use-case does not.

>>310790
Thank you for the links. Reminds me of the book "Why Johnny can't think." Political Correctness and it's successors of Wokeism and Intersectionalism has been a blight on the intelligence of Americans in ways we still struggle to fully grasp.

>>310793
>The priority of all language is clear communication, with the sole exception being diplomacy and negotiation to avoid severe consequences
More or less. You have to be careful with that line of thought though, or you risk throwing out what was traditionally considered the highest form of literature: poetry.
>>310795
You're welcome. I'd prefer to quickly summarise it all myself instead of linking a Youtube video of all things, but that'll take a bit more research and digestion.

>>310797
I think a snappy way to say it is "clarity of language is clarity of thought."

>>310797
>More or less. You have to be careful with that line of thought though, or you risk throwing out what was traditionally considered the highest form of literature: poetry.
I suppose my paragraphs could be re-summarized like this: does the language choice used do more good than harm (from a utilitarian sense)?

- All the use-cases and special exceptions of 'they' or 'their' discussed in this thread do more good than harm. Informing someone that the sex is unknown or null, rather than defaulting to the male 'he', is clearer by acknowledging this unknown and letting the listener know. It has a long precedent in the English language, besides, as the other anon said. If the identity is being kept hidden intentionally with good reason to avoid a greater harm and consequences, then this too falls under that clause of good vs harm.
- The woke singular introduces a great deal of confusion (besides the grammar itself being very debateable), even if progressives argue that it's for 'good' i.e. not harming the feelings of the mentally ill. However, even if we steelman their argument and accept this, the chaos and confusion it sows outweighs this. So, it's still more harmful than good.
- Poetry uses ambiguity to achieve a greater emotional impact, which makes it a net good for the cost of minor potential confusion.

>>310786
>You aren't even talking about the same thing that I just posted. It has been considered grammatically correct since well before either of us were born that you can use the words they or them to refer to a human being of indeterminate sex
No. You refer to someone you don't know is male or female as a male. You are either willfuly lying (because that is the default state of leftists, dishonesty) or you are underage and grew up with the newspeak propaganda.
>(and also generally indeterminate identity)
Ah i see, so you are a just a regular leftist freak.

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>>310011 (OP) 
It's sad how catering to straight men is seen as evil nowadays... MJ should've looked like this in Spider-Man's newest stuff.

>>310804
aside from the man jaw, pretty nice

>>310805
Man jaws on a beautiful White woman signify good genes that make powerful warriors. It's very different from the manjaw of a tranny, which signifies a lack of fertility and an abundance of mental illness.

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>>310803
>if anon doesn't agree with me, he is a lying leftist or brainwashed
>if anon says there's situations where you have to reference a person without knowing his sex or name, he is a leftist freak
This is part of where a bit more knowledge of lingustics and Old English would be nice. I've seen distinctly not-leftist linguists get extremely annoyed by these arguments before, since they tend to see a lot of this bullshit as downstream of Middle English's loss of grammatical gender, but I don't remember the specifics enough to articulate them clearly.

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>>310803
does this pic make you unreasonably upset?

>>310790
>most English majors at an American university could not understand several pages of a Charles Dickens novel
These stats are meaningless unless you include the race. American students are bad at reading because it's not a white country, simple as.

>>310820
>American students are bad at reading because it's not a white country, simple as.
So an attempt at denying students the ability to properly parse sentences and replacing it with a vibe interpretation game isn't going to affect white kids?

>>310827
It affects White kids somewhat, yes, but it's already been long established that IQ affects these things above all else by a massive margin. The wealthiest non-White families (with the exception of East Asians) consistently score lower than the poorest White families on average, meaning it's genetic and immutable. To add to the entire mess, you have foreign language speakers who are not forced at all to learn proper English. That's what that anon meant.

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It seems the article got paywalled since I last looked at it. Here's an archive.ph link, as the wayback machine version is broken: 
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/922346
https://archive.ph/yM9Yl 
>>310829
According to the paper, the subjects were almost entirely white women.

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>>310011 (OP) 
I miss how women were objectified in ads too.

>>310860
It was a selling  point and no one cared because nerds weren't getting sex anyway.

>>310860
That ad was made for males and to attract males you need an attractive female, even if she had a man jaw.
Should had blocked her face too, need bigger boobs thought.

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>>310749
Well, to be specific on the Caligula series: The western localization of the Vita game was the ONLY one to get published by Atlus.
The remake and the sequel both got localized by NISA.
Meanwhile in Japan, FuRyu published all 3 games.

>>310772
If you're talking about that quest character screenshot:
In The Caligula Effect, the minor quest characters numbered in the hundreds, and they had 2 quests each, so there was a lot of copypasting involved.
Notice how that character's "Profile" info refers to him as "he", despite his quests' info using "they" on that very same window.
The first game has some propaganda for sure, but I just don't think those pronouns right there were a case of it. It was more likely just laziness.
The sequel was the one that went all in with the "non-binary" retardation.

>>310803
I find it hilarious that you consider anything newer than a language that doesn't even include 80% of the vocabulary you're using to make your argument (Old English) to be "newspeak". Genuinely, some of the most autistic retardation I've ever seen. I would assume you're trolling but a troll would put more effort in to their responses. Like holy shit, using the word "identity" is leftist now? Am I a leftist if I call the cops and complain about identity theft?
Kill yourself on camera and make sure to speak your last words in a dead language.

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Has anyone else noticed the trend in recent years where gender is being actively removed in games? Im sure you're aware of the body type phenomena where games instead of having male or female they replaced it with body type 1 or 2 and so on.
Now a recen trend i myself have noticed is how in most games that release nowadays don't have a gender option. For instance you may have the option of picking a male or a female but it doesnt say male or female. You might think that im reaching here but let me explain. I have noticed a trend in where id say almost every game in which you can pick or create a character nowadays, dont have any gender options or gender display. Or sex if you wanna call it that but you get my point. And i have noticed in a lot of multiplayer party games that customizations are unisex meaning that you are some sort of genderless blob freak. You could just dismiss my points but i see a pattern. Why is it that every fucking game that comes out now just seem to hide the genders? It's bizzare, i mean it feels so co-ordinated. 
I can give you two examples of recent games i saw that had this problem. A game where you play as robots, i mean obviously you would say that robots don't have genders and you're right but this is also another problem. They seem to be doing whatever they can to avoid the gender thing. Another recent game was a game in which you play cat characters and you can pick different cats and the cats gender or sex is never mentioned. It's just that im noticing patterns in where every new game that seems to come out the developers are acting like a bunch of fucking propaganistic faggots trying to push some new age propaganda. It's not fucking normal when pretty much every game i look into avoids male or female options. I hate these fuckers so much. Subhumans

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Yes. Now go back to hispachan.

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>>311249
It's basically a cycle of LGBT (behind some ((( less respectable people ))) )infiltrating companies and shareholders feeling like LGBT stuff sells more or at least has to be in a game to avoid being flamed. It's like any other gimmick like open world games or battle royale, but it's arguably worse since anyone can flame your game on twitter and all the shareholders are gonna dip en masse out of fear. At least that's what i think now after years of this trend, not only in games but in social media, universities, governmental institutions etc. It's ultimately a shareholder issue.

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>>311842
>bumping the thread
that said looks like Versus 13 is really coming together

>>311508
When you're interest payments are directly tied to having these things included in your media you start to better understand it's inclusion and the actual mechanics behind ESG.

>>311877
Some of that, to be sure, but "why gaming, why nerd shit?" has as its answer that we were already a soft target for predatory personalities, waiting until exactly this cult decided we were valuable enough to plunder en masse:
https://plausiblydeniable.com/five-geek-social-fallacies/

>>311842
>Those pics.
Guess time wasn't very merciful on her.

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>>311884
>merciful