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>>300995 (OP) 
I guess i'll start this one.
>Which game is the best one?
I am currently enjoying Unicorn Overlord a lot, but my favourites are Dragon's Crown and Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Muramasa Rebirth looked cool and interesting but the gameplay with the breakable swords put me off and i never finished it to this day.
>Which game is the worst one?
I didn't play it, but to me 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim seemed so dull and uninteresting to me, and i was very disappointed at the reveal of it.
>Best girl for each game and/or in general?
Sorceress from Dragon's Crown, Velvet from Odin Sphere and Queen Ilenia from Unicorn Overlord (but i like Yahna too, such a great design)
>Coolest character?
Dragon's Crown's Knight, it's so fucking badass.
>Coolest enemy?
I don't know, but i remember Odin Sphere havingll lots of cool enemies.
>Is Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir the best remaster/remake ever done and a gold standard to how you make it right?
Yes
But i have no idea why they gave the Leifthrasir version such a lifeless and dull cover art for a colorful and lively game.
The PS2 original cover is so much better.
>Which other Vanillaware game deserves the Leifthrasir treatment, if any?
I would like to see Princess Crown get the same treatment.
>>300995 (OP) 
>talk about the stuff you loved and the things you hated or annoyed you about any of their games.
As much as i loved it, Dragon's Crown was not a flawless game.
I think that 9 stages were not enough, and should have been at least 12.
Also, i wish the B paths were longer and more different compared to the A paths.

>>300995 (OP) 
Played and beat Unicorn overlord. Only touched a bit of dragons crown at a college dorm. Saw a playthrough of Aegis Rim. All gorgeous looking with simple and solid mechanics in my opinon. Yoko Taro is right to scream at people on twitter to preserve kamitami.
But he,or the company, has the SEGA mind virus  to not port to PC. Its pure SEGA, doing something incredibly stupid, but smart enough to keep on chugging along and survive another day At least Atlus eventually caved and started doing it with SMT.

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>>301054
I really don't get why they are so adverse at making PC ports.
Are they worried about mods or something?
>>301054
>Yoko Taro is right to scream at people on twitter to preserve kamitami.
I watched some amazing art Kamitani did in Vanillaware's official site, and i would love to see them make a game out of this two.
I can see the first one as a RPG side-scrolling shooter, while the second one could be like a Dragon's Crown sequel of sorts.
The first pic in particular tells a story by itself, alien creatures using human bodies as biological fuel?
That looks so awesome, way more interesting than 13 Sentinels' theme for sure.
Those female torsos in tanks that are places inside robotic exoskeletons is some robocop shit, which is awesome.

>>301054
Even sega fucking ports to PC now yet VW refuses to do it under the lame excuse of "preventing people from ripping assets"

>>301082
>VW refuses to do it under the lame excuse of "preventing people from ripping assets"
So that's why.
I had the feeling it had something to do with people on PC being able to rip and mod the games' content.

>>301082
>>301104
Without a doubt the most narcissistic and insecure excuse I've ever heard.  This is an artist so far up his own asshole that he thinks he should have the right to control ideas.

>thread instantly turns into retards screeching about a lack of PC ports
I'm glad I use imageboards less these days

>>301125
>complaining about people complaining

>>301126
No shit retard, thread's already been shat up by people who don't care about discussing the games themselves. This kind of thing has been happening for the past 2-3 years with Vanillaware game threads now with a dedicated group of retards bringing up the same points without sources every time.

>>301127
Yeah, I'd prefer to see people talk about the games themselves.

>>301128
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Dragon's Crown is a fun time for the first 8 hours or so but after I got most of the talismans it felt really repetitive getting the last handful (like killing the dragon boss before it escapes) and the final boss ends up being a pure DPS race if you're alone because the AI is too stupid to not stand in fire. When I leveled enough to beat it and found out there were two more loops I just lost interest. Might be better if you have a regular group to slog through it with but "it's fun with friends" is the ultimate in damning with faint praise. Also I doubt enough anons have computers that can run RPCS3 anyway.

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>>301157
I honestly felt that Dragon's Crown should have kept the characters level cap at 99.
Going for 250 was like adding water to a good wine.
I still remember being happy when the news came out, about a new DC update that was going to "add a new dungeon free of charge" only to be disappointed when it came out that it was just more of the same in a new difficulty.
Also the last update fucked a lot of things up (mainly the camera, which needed no fixing at all) and made the game almost unplayable until the "pro" update came out with the PS4 version.
I also think the B routes were rushed and lacking.

>>301157
>RPCS3
My phone runs it perfectly on Vita3K, why would you need the PS3 version?

>>301176
>phone

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>>301157
>he didn't have it in him to save The Three Goddesses nor to unlock all these fantastic artworks in the gallery.
Weakest faggot this board has ever seen.

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>>301176
>My phone runs it perfectly on Vita3K
I tried emulating DC on my Retroid pocket 5 on Vita3K, it seemed to play everything well, then some menus, like when you pick a character and give it a name, slowed down to unbearable levels.
Then some graphical glitches appeared, for instance before the harpy fight, the entire stage went black and the harpy was invisible.
I wonder if Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir and Muramasa: Rebirth would have the same issues.

>>301186
I did all that stuff with all the 6 characters, but i can see why some players were put off by needing to replay the same shit over and over again.
I think they should have added some newer stages at that point or something.
I think 9 dungeons were just not enough, even with the A/B routes.

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>>301169
I want it in my mouth.

>>301213
Mine definitely does not have those issues. Is your Vita3K updated? Have you installed all the other shit to get Vita3K up and running properly? Last I played it, it was perfect. Both of our devices have Adrino GPUs, so idk if drivers would be the issue. Either way, I hope you get that problem resolved.

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Does Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir make the OG obsolete?
I think it does, not only because the OG is still included in it, but because Leifthrasir is essentially the same game with more content and better gameplay, aside from the flawlessly improved visuals without altering the original art style.

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>>300995 (OP) 
>Which game is the best one?
My favorite is probably Dragon's Crown, but Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir and Unicorn Overlord were awesome too.
>Which game is the worst one?
13 Sentinels Aegis Rim never got my interest.
I was pretty disappointed since the reveal
>Best girl for each game and/or in general?
Odin Sphere: Velvet
Unicorn Overlord: Yahna and Queen Ilenia.
Dragon's Crown: Amazon, Sorceress and Elf were all awesome.
>Coolest character?
Dragon's Crown Knight.
>Coolest enemy?
I can't say, Dragon's Crown, Odin Sphere and Muramasa had all some cool enemy design.
>Is Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir the best remaster/remake ever done and a gold standard to how you make it right?
Yes, tweak the gameplay, add some content that doesn't feel out of place and keep everything that made the game good, art style above all, unaltered.
>Which other Vanillaware game deserves the Leifthrasir treatment, if any?
A Dragon's Crown with new levels and enemies would be cool, but probably Muramasa is the one that deserves it most.

>>301058
>I watched some amazing art Kamitani did in Vanillaware's official site, and i would love to see them make a game out of this two.
>I can see the first one as a RPG side-scrolling shooter, while the second one could be like a Dragon's Crown sequel of sorts.
>The first pic in particular tells a story by itself, alien creatures using human bodies as biological fuel?
>That looks so awesome, way more interesting than 13 Sentinels' theme for sure.
>Those female torsos in tanks that are places inside robotic exoskeletons is some robocop shit, which is awesome.
That shit is so cool, i wished they went for that instead of what 13 sentinels came out to be-

>>311806
I think there was a new Muramasa something announced, but I don't remember if it's a remaster, reboot or sequel. Also if it's soyny exclusive it's DOA no matter what.

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Are there high res scans of any vanillaware artbooks out there?

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>>311837
Unfortunately the place most likely to have it is sadpanda. If you have an account with that vidya tracker (or know someone who does) that's another distinct possibility.

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>>311840
>go to check on panda
>banned my ip again for no reason

>>311835
Multiplat remaster, with the Genroku Legends DLC included. Apparently being given an English dub as new content, and a new English "localiztion", via XSEED/Marvelous. So apparently they're not licensing Aksys' prior English Vita script, which was done instead of licensing Ignition's previous Wii one because it was notoriously bad, and a more accurate translation was a legitimate selling point for it on the Vita. Whether that means still accurate but arbitrary wording/flow changes so they don't get sued by Aksys, or going full rewrite mode with it, I don't know, but it doesn't bode well to me.

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>>311848
>Marvelous
It'll be fun to see how badly they fuck it up, I guess.

>>311835
>I think there was a new Muramasa something announced, but I don't remember if it's a remaster, reboot or sequel.
I have no idea. 
>Also if it's soyny exclusive it's DOA no matter what.
It is not, I saw on Amazog the preorders for both the Switch and Switch 2 versions.

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>>311848
>Multiplat remaster, with the Genroku Legends DLC included.
So it is a "Muramasa Leifthrasir" of sorts? Good.
>>311848
> Apparently being given an English dub as new content, and a new English "localiztion", via XSEED/Marvelous. So apparently they're not licensing Aksys' prior English Vita script, which was done instead of licensing Ignition's previous Wii one because it was notoriously bad, and a more accurate translation was a legitimate selling point for it on the Vita. Whether that means still accurate but arbitrary wording/flow changes so they don't get sued by Aksys, or going full rewrite mode with it, I don't know, but it doesn't bode well to me.
I don't know how that shit works, so basically Marvelous can't make a proper translation because Aksys already did that, and now they need to change things lest the new translation gets too similar to Aksys'?
If that's how it is, then i don't know how that shit is even legal.

>>311918
>Muramasa Leifthasir
You don't know what Leifthraisir did. This isn't a remake, its essentially just a "game of the year" edition, but with no guarantee that the translation is actually good like rebirth's was.

>>311925
>You don't know what Leifthraisir did. This isn't a remake, its essentially just a "game of the year" edition, but with no guarantee that the translation is actually good like rebirth's was.
I know what Leifthrasir did, I just had no clear idea of what this was and I (wrongly, apparently) assumed it was Muramasa being given the same treatment as Odin Sphere.

>>311918
The US Copyright Office is a house of Satan.

>>311979
Yeah, lots of shit need to be changed in copyright laws.

>>311855
>Marvelous
Are they as bad as NISA?

>>312258
NISA is pretty much the worst. Any good translations they ever had was because of the Japanese companies holding them to a tight leash, which is very rare. 
Marvelous might be pretty close these days, XSEED 
(The English branch) lost their only employees worth a damn like 8 years ago and hired lunatics, and they were already left-leaning back then. By now they're probably hopeless. Not to mention that Marvelous Japan has been fucked ever since Soyny fucked them over, they took Tencent money, and Takaki left because of how bad everything became.

>>312269
Holding them to a tight leash or straight-up doing it themselves*

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>>300995 (OP) 
Had a blast playing Unicorn Overlord last year, they really improved on the simple but fun Ogre Battle formula.

Liked the story for what it was. I'm tired of the dumb twists trying to deconstruct a genre that you can see a mile away or morally grey characters that GoT popularized the last decade. They played it straight and I appreciate that.

Did Vanillaware ever figure out how to make a good action game?  Because Odin Sphere and Muramasa sure were hot garbage.

>>312336
hopefully this game gets a PC port. I want that werefox lady dammit or the owl lady Ramona is pretty nice, her personality is quite tender borderline motherly

>>312352
What's your standard for a good 2d action game?

>>312361
Why are you asking for the opinions of a retard?

>>312362
Joyeuse detected

>>312364
I'm glad I don't know what you're talking about.

>>312361
Standard?  That's a difficult question.  Perhaps level design that isn't repetitive, well balanced damage values between players and enemies, responsive mechanics, etc.  One of the challenges with the addition of RPG mechanics to an action platformer/beat 'em up experience is it requires a lot of care to balance the numbers for a consistent satisfying challenge in any given area.

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>>312336
I must admit, while i loved many Vanillaware games, i initially decided to pass on Unicorn Overlord due to the game being turn-based.
I don't know why, maybe i expected another beat em up ala Dragon's Crown...
Then i saw someone posting a gif Yahna, with that same animation of your pic related, and asked what's that from?
And so, i got a copy of Unicorn Overlord, and i must say, i ended up loving the game, it made me feel like a kid again, like when i couldn't wait to get back home from school just to play some cool video game.
I even woke up earlier in the mornings so i could manage to play it for an hour or more before leaving for work, it's been a while since a new made made me feel like that.
You know when they say that suggesting past games were better than current ones is just "nostalgia goggles" and that the reason we don't enjoy current games as much is simply because we are getting older?
TOTAL BULLSHIT

I still want Dragon's Crown 2 though

>>312366
No I meant what game do you consider the standard

>>312367
>You know when they say that suggesting past games were better than current ones is just "nostalgia goggles" and that the reason we don't enjoy current games as much is simply because we are getting older?
>TOTAL BULLSHIT
As a zoomer who mostly plays games from the early 00's and earlier, most of them from before I was even born, I well know that the "nostalgia" talking point is bullshit.

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>>312367
I'm reminded of when Metroid Prime 4 was rightly lambasted by anons, and the usual dismissals accused haters of just being contrarians or tribalistic culture warriors, but just a few years earlier Dread came out, and even the most cynical anons in the thread who tried playing it, through all the critiques of weak art design and gimmicky mechanics and Nintoddlers and the Switch, eventually had to admit the game was fun.

Beneath all the bullshit, it really does just come down to bad games being worse than good games.

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>>312367
>You know when they say that suggesting past games were better than current ones is just "nostalgia goggles" and that the reason we don't enjoy current games as much is simply because we are getting older?
>TOTAL BULLSHIT
A friend of mine is a schoolteacher. I asked him what kind of shows kids were watching nowadays. He said Friends.
I kind of paused in shock. I just assumed the next generation would have their own show. Not something 20 years old.
As the conversation dragged on, I started to feel a deep welling of pity. Every bit of culture: tv show, game, music, movie, etc.. They were all decades old. They received NOTHING of value. They had no cultural memory of their own. Like they lived in a postapocalypse forever remembering a better past where their fathers had it better than them.

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>>312399
That's because they are, and the apocalypse is jews and leftists being allowed to act openly. It's why zoomers become mega racist if they ever learn how to apply pattern recognition and critical thinking.

>>312399
Its sad that we have essentially had a few lost generations of artistic creation BUT I dont think its a bad thing if the young spend time in the pre-digital world. In fact, I think it is a good thing.

>>312401
>I must turn every thread into culture war

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>>312409
It's relevant, bitch. It was relevant in 2014 and it's only become more so with each passing year.

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>>312401
>>312409
Don't worry, the pendulum is gradually turning back. Why, on this very board, I've started running into unironic loli whiners this year.

>>312412
>>312413
And you fags wonder why nobody uses the site

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>>312415
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough: This shit is cancerous no matter "which" "side" does it

>>312416
If people want to talk video games without anyone mentioning the jews, leftists, femninists, and trannies shitting everything up, then they can just go to reddit, steam forums, gamefaqs, kotaku. Literally anywhere.
They would unironically be happier in those places.

Do people posting on imageboards really not understand why anons are drawn towards anonymity and free speech platforms in the first place?

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>>312417
Because we like talking about vidya without being sidetracked by some sperg high on their own farts and then censored if we don't go along with their autism

>>312417
It's people saying the exact same shit over and over AND OVER. Every fucking thread it has to devolve into the same 2 talking points everybody has heard 50000 times before. It's one thing if it's some new thing that happened and it's actually relevant but it never fucking is.

>>312418
>we
Someone mentioning the jews only sidetracks you if it upsets you. You don't need to go along with anything, you are free to agree, argue, or ignore.
You can reply to the people you want, and stick to the topics you want.
Sperging out because someone brought up your people in a negative light, then complaining about it because you felt compelled to argue and complain is the most retarded shit I've ever heard.

>>312419
Again, if you want everyone to be censored, there are plenty of places for you to go.

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>>312419
<WHY IS [X] SO BAD NOW?
>Because [X] became bad because of [Y], which is always caused by (((  [Z]  ))).
<URGH, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS BRING UP (((  [Y] AND [Z]  )))?
This is literally you.

Also, politely saging since my post is indeed off-topic.

>>312422
I agree, it's very thinly veiled faggots that don't belong here being offended.
But even besides that point it completely ignores how imageboards even work. You can reply to who you want, ignore who you want, follow the chain of replies that you want. There is no upvote system, no system to minimize or maximize visibility.
The direction of the conversation is personalized for every person reading the thread.

The board is basically dead because it became uninteresting.

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>>312420
>>312421
>>312422
>>312424
>offended

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>>312426
<why does everyone keep hating on these universally despised creatures on uncensored digital spaces filled with non-NPCs, whenever I bring up those universally despised creatures?
Why are you making me do this?

>>312426
Look at 312401.
It would have been 1 post. But 1 person complained, and now it's 10+ posts in a chain of direct responses. If nobody complained, it would have 0 replies right now.

I feel like I shouldn't need to explain this, but the reason /pol/ exists is to discuss what cannot be discussed elsewhere because of censorship. People on /pol/ constantly discussed politics and controversial conspiracies and how the jews were involved, and they were always right.
It wouldn't even make sense to stick to vanilla politics topics. Just stay on reddit or the various 500 other political forums if you want that.

Same with video games. Plenty of places to talk about video games that censor discussion of tranny devs and jews being jews.

>>312427
spoiler those images/videos.

>>312428
>spoiler those images/videos.
I will do so next time, my mistake. Matter-of-fact, if a mod or janny is watching, feel free to spoiler them. It's not censorship, since this is /v/.

>It would have been 1 post. But 1 person complained, and now it's 10+ posts in a chain of direct responses. If nobody complained, it would have 0 replies right now.
Also, very much this. For you fags such as >>312426 who keep complaining, maybe you shouldn't have spent decades destroying containment zones.

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>>312367
Fun games are fun.

>>312429
The places intended to be containment zones became more popular and interesting than the places they were created to protect.

>>312428
>It would have been 1 post
Would it really, or would more spergs have shat up the thread.

>>312433
Yes. Just look. Nobody replied.

>>312435
>>312412 here. This entire reply chain is a psyop and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
>>312435
Yeah, nobody replied because (You) poisoned the well. Good job.

To that topic, it's not like there's been no cultural artifacts since 2010. It's just been pushed into the Internet and into forms that aren't subject to complete top down control yet. How many anime and manga of the last 10 years started as web novels? How much writefagging and other OC has come out of places like /tg/ and /monster/? Fuck, just look at YouTube. They let Markiplier direct and write a major motion picture. A horror movie based on a stale 4chan meme is probably going to be one of the top 10 films of the summer in terms of box office. The Amazing Digital Circus is popular enough they put the finale out in theaters first. There's a lot of slop, more than ever before, but every generation pulls out tons of slop.

>>312442
>I don't like it so it's slop

>>312445
Anon just meant that in the Sturgeon's Law sense

>>312398
>I'm reminded of when Metroid Prime 4 was rightly lambasted by anons, and the usual dismissals accused haters of just being contrarians or tribalistic culture warriors...
I STILL think Metroid Dread was garbage.
Planet ZDR was dull and had nothing interesting going on, the story was dumb, the E.M.M.Is were shit, and more annoying (with those lame QTE) than "scary" as they were supposed to be, the graphics looked washed out despite Dread being a 2.5D game (Prime Remastered looks 100 times better, so the Switch not being powerful wasn't an excuse), the music was forgettable, the counter attacks were unnecessary and the general tone was kinda boring.
Samus' initial suit looked cool though, that's the only positive i could find.

>>312427
>coalburner gets killed by mudslimes
wtf i love mudslimes now

polite sage for off topic

Let's get back to talk about Vanillaware, please.

>>312442
Nobody replied because nobody replied you stupid fuck. You know they can reply right now? Nothing is stopping anyone from replying to anything at any time you extremely retarded newfag.

>>312417
>If people want to talk video games without anyone mentioning the jews, leftists, femninists, and trannies shitting everything up, then they can just go to reddit, steam forums, gamefaqs, kotaku. Literally anywhere.
>They would unironically be happier in those places.

>Do people posting on imageboards really not understand why anons are drawn towards anonymity and free speech platforms in the first place?

This.
Not to mention how it is getting more and more difficult to not address the elephant in the room when vidya is getting shit because those elements are using it for propaganda purposes instead of entertainment.

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Anyway, back on topic:
Berengaria best girl.

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>>312473
You misspelled Amalia

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>>312473
>>312478
I see brown elf I pick, simple as.

>>312481
NIGGER!

>>312482
If niggers looked like that I'd be the least racist man on earth

>>312473
>>312478
>>312481
Bullshit the werefox is better. She's straight up yandere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGwX6rE5PQk

>>312496
Furfag detected

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>>312498
I like many species of women. End of the day, I refuse to be called such slander mister double nigger you.

>>312498
Don't worry, it is ok if its Kemono.

>>312500
I feel like when anybody else says this everybody agrees but when I say it I get dogpiled

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>>312483
>If niggers looked like that I'd be the least racist man on earth
Yeah, especially since she looks nothing like a niggress.
Japs tend to do that thing to make a character that looks 100% Caucasian and then make the skin a few shades darker.
I would have preferred if she was light skinned as her sister, but calling her a bigger is a stretch. 
 Gotta adnit that when I first played the demo I first thought Aubin was a nigger, and thought: "No... Not VanillaWare too with crap!" Then I realized he was just a tanned dude that used to live in the desert.
For a bit I was about to boycott the game, I feared SEGA would have asked them to put that shit in the game for ESG shekels

>>312473
I like Selvie the most. Followed by Celeste, they are pretty similar in terms of looks. I should try picking it up again, felt way too easy and I grew so bored, though I like games with cute girls, it doesn't feel right when that's all there is to it. I think I just can't feel being main character, even gave myself and my sister light hair, yet still doesn't feel quite right, maybe because the name is pre-set.

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>>312510
>I like Selvie the most.
Yeah, Selvie has that "hot but unkept" appeal, like she probably doesn't even realize she's attractive.
Is it me, or did most of the female characters' "upgrade" felt like a visual downgrade?
I mean, Yahna going from Witch to Sorceress is the best example, but the healers were another one.

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>>312510
>I think I just can't feel being main character, even gave myself and my sister light hair, yet still doesn't feel quite right, maybe because the name is pre-set.
I honestly didn't like Alain's blue hair, I would have preferred if they gave him blonde or light brown hair.
With those blue hair he looked like a Fire Emblem character, and I meant that in a negative way.
By the way, while Scarlet was probably the "canon" choice, I think she was kinda boring, so I opted for Alain's cousin Virginia instead, I think it made more sense to have Virginia as the queen.
My disappointment is that not every choice implied romance or marriage.
Well, that, and the fact that for some reason you could even give the ring to guys as well, what the fuck were they thinking?
I know no gay romance was even implied, but still...

>>312515
Can you have a harem in the game?

>>312524
No dumbass

>>312525
LAME!