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“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Teenbros don't have that problem.” - Otamin


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A society that accepts and legalizes cannabis can't withhold psychedelics. As the concept of altering one's consciousness becomes normalized, so will drugs like LSD, Psilocybin, and DMT. Psychedelics have minimal potential for harm. Drug prohibition is destructive and gives undue power to the government. It's a weapon against dissenters. Psychedelics are a valuable medicine and are especially necessary with the current state of the world. They're an excellent alternative to antidepressants and antipsychotics. They help people cope with trauma, stress, and depression. Psychedelics are known to be empathogenic and increase creativity. They foster an appreciation for nature. It's a shame that they're restricted.

Going on a trip is like being reborn. It's an introspective journey. It brings one back to the state they were in when they were a child, unstained by conditioning, jadedness, and trauma. Imagine being in a state where your ego is dead and you're experiencing synesthesia. You don't remember your own name or where you are. The last thing on your mind is the rat race, school, government, media, video games, or whatever. It's pure nature. Pure existence. You have no self, you are one with all, like a nonliving object. You have no preconceptions or opinions, you're an observer. You see geometric patterns in the environment and can feel them being generated in your head. They're visual representations of the inner workings of your mind. You realize they're always there even if you don't see them. Having this experience is a life altering miracle. It's the closest IRL equivalent to a redpill.

One's own body is sacred and outlawing the usage of certain drugs when there is no harm being done to anyone else is a violation of one's rights. The law should not be used for victimless and opinion based crimes.
>>336 (OP) 
>Going on a trip is like being reborn. It's an introspective journey.
That sensation you're experiencing is your brain screaming in agony, you pothead faggot.
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>>337
Then why does it feel so good? chekuumaido
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>>341
This anon does bring up a point. And he said chekuumaido. Thats like a double point.
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>>337
Bullshit, don't be a bluepilled faggot. Psychs are extremely safe.

Not having access to psychedelics is like not having access to the sun, basic literacy, or the interwebs. You miss out on so much by not getting to experience them. Humanity turning its back on psychs is one of the greatest tragedies to ever happen.
>>341
You can take psychs for pleasure but they are also an important tool for self growth.
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>>350
>Not having access to psychedelics is like not having access to the sun, basic literacy, or the interwebs.
Meanwhile every time I tried mushrooms and it feels like fucking nothing while it hits others like a truck. 
>You can take psychs for pleasure but they are also an important tool for self growth.
Nigger you baiting. It's not self growth, you don't need the drugs to come to whatever realizations you came to, just reflect and yourself and your world, using your brain not drugs and you'll achieve a better result. 
MDMA though really makes me empathize better with whoever I am thinking about, and I'd argue it made me think about how some of the people I know must feel about certain things and how I could do things better maybe but again, you don't need drugs for that, you just gotta make an effort which I normally do not, I know some people use it for therapeutic reasons, instead of doing couple counceling or some other gay shit like that they just take MDMA and talk things out, but man I can see that going really bad considering the absolute honesty and breaking of barriers
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Don't worry, I'm sure the global homos will eventually shift the Overton window enough so that all drugs become legal. Might take a few years but I'm sure it'll happen.
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>>350
I've never known anyone who's ever taken psychs and not been a humongous faggot. So I'm gonna assume that that's what it does to you.
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>>336 (OP) 
The idea of psychs is fascinating, but I also share the concerns previously shared ITT that it melts your brain (metaphorically speaking) which is the primary driver of the so-called acid trips. I suppose my question is, does anyone who uses these things for an attempt at spirituality/enlightenment, verses degenerate recreation like potheads, come out ahead in the exchange, IE. they only need to use the substance the one time, or is it like any other drug where you have to hit it over and over again to obtain whatever you're pursuing? 
Mind you, I'm not remotely interested in trying any such substances, becausue I'm 99% sure I'd go to some mind shattering hellscape for my acid trip rather than happy-land or wherever psychadelic users aim for, this is completely a question of academic curiosity.
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>>351
>Meanwhile every time I tried mushrooms and it feels like fucking nothing while it hits others like a truck. 
You must be doing something wrong.
>Nigger you baiting. It's not self growth, you don't need the drugs to come to whatever realizations you came to,
The realizations are ineffable. They're something you have to experience and can never fully describe or replicate. Being one with the universe may not mean much at first. When you finally realize what that means, it becomes one of the most profound realizations you will ever have.
>just reflect and yourself and your world, using your brain not drugs and you'll achieve a better result.
Psychs empowered me and gave me a new desire to live. They showed me what kind of spectacular beauty life is capable of. They helped me come to peace with some of the most intense questions of my life.
>>356
>The idea of psychs is fascinating, but I also share the concerns previously shared ITT that it melts your brain (metaphorically speaking) which is the primary driver of the so-called acid trips.
It helps to be comfortable with the idea of being high. The idea that acid melts your brain is cultural. Acid only causes insanity in those that don't take it. It's possible to get visual snow(HPPD) after psychs. It depends on the person whether they mind it or not.
>I suppose my question is, does anyone who uses these things for an attempt at spirituality/enlightenment, verses degenerate recreation like potheads, come out ahead in the exchange, IE. they only need to use the substance the one time, or is it like any other drug where you have to hit it over and over again to obtain whatever you're pursuing?
A psychedelic trip is one of the most powerful things you can experience. You don't need to redose during a trip and it's recommended to wait at least 2 weeks between trips. A single trip can fundamentally change you and stay with you your whole life. It can take months to integrate the outcome of a trip. It's up to you if you want to continue and be a psychonaut. If you trip 3 times per year, that's often.
>Mind you, I'm not remotely interested in trying any such substances, becausue I'm 99% sure I'd go to some mind shattering hellscape for my acid trip rather than happy-land or wherever psychadelic users aim for, this is completely a question of academic curiosity.
That's the whole point. You don't take it to be comfortable or happy. That's not what psychs are for. You take psychs to have experiences. To be in an alternative world. It's humbling. You're not in control and you're not supposed to be. Have a tripsitter, have a good set and setting, don't be nutritionally deficient, and don't be tired. The real trip is integrating what you've experienced with your life.
>>354
Globohomo wouldn't do that because they have to keep it illegal to keep up their monopoly. The war on drugs actively harms communities. People are taught to worship pharmaceutical drugs as saviors but fear naturally occurring substances as crazy and dangerous.
>just reflect and yourself and your world, using your brain
Some "people" are incapable of doing that. They are literally sleepwalkers. If psychs actually help them self-actualize then good for them. What they don't do is give a worthless golem a soul. These are the kind of creatures that only see sex and drugs as a source of infantile pleasure.
>>351
Meant to reply to this post.
>>336 (OP) 
>As the concept of altering one's consciousness becomes normalized, so will drugs like LSD,
Drug use is a niggerish foreign vice that shouldn't be normalized, Rabbi.
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If the USA is anything to go by, then no
>no trips justify it
>no consciousness expanding justifies it
>no need for relief justifies it
If you fail to handle your issues normally, without such substances, you are cattle to be controlled.Be you an afghanistani junkie, a chink opium enjoyer or a USA drug fan.
Enjoy your vices in a controlled environment, but do not make them public. Some cannot handle specific drugs and the effects may be their end as a human being. Chasing the dragon is no joke.
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>>696
It is also ugly, disturbing and depressing to watch people do such degenerate things in public.  It matters not whether they're huffing paint, smoking rock cocaine from pipes made from stolen car antennas, or snorting rails of this week's trendiest new designer drug.  It's disgusting.  It's irresponsible.  It's culturally corrosive.  It's dyscivilizational.  And this is why it's being normalized and pushed so hard by ((( (((the Usual Suspects))) ))).  ("The duty of the Party Vanguard is to smash cultural hegemony and social capital wherever they can be found, by any means necessary...")
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>>699
>ugly, disturbing and depressing to watch people do such degenerate things in public.

you can see such shit in Eastern Europe. But never in Afghanistan, where you will be killed for it. Don't forget that exctly Taliban burned all the poppy fields that were there during USA occupation.
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>>700
Yeah they do in the dumps on the sidestreets and under bridges. How civilized of them.
Afghanistan is fucked. They grow next to nothing useful. Even the taliban used drug money to fund themselves. They can lower it, but until they start growing something else they are will always have junkies.
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>>692
Psychedelic use is a prehistoric part of human culture. It's not a vice because it's not harmful. It was made illegal for cultural reasons, by those who thought it was detrimental to the war on Vietnam.
>>696
Those "junkies" you see are not psychedelic users. Opioids are a completely different class of drug. Nobody is "chasing the dragon" with psychedelics. Nobody sells their body or commits robberies for psychedelics, nobody gets addicted to them, nobody spends a lot of money on them, nobody has ever died from an OD of one. Nobody gets handicapped in their daily function because of psychs.
>>699
>huffing paint, smoking rock cocaine
Extremely disingenuous comparisons when talking about psychs.
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>>708
It's still a waste of time at best. A weapon in hands of those supervising you during your trips and like all drugs - highly useful in demoralization.
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>>701
Bulgaria
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>>701
No, not Afghanistan. BULGARISTAN, EUROPE UNION.

Human shit in front of the President Palace in Sofia, the capital of Bulgaria LMAO

Bulgaristan is not Africa. It's Haiti of 18 century. Khazarians + Gypsis (Roma).
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>>711
Those are gypsie ghettos on the outskirts of town.
Gypsies are literal nomads. They will go anywhere where they are not punished for it and create shit infested ghettos. You are not safe anywhere. The EU funding for them makes sure they get money for not working and continue to be leeches. Even communism could beat them into shape, the current european policies make sure they become worse, work less and breed more.
Remember when we sided with the nazis and wanted to get rid of them ? Well Europe made sure that didn't happen and now it is making sure they breed more.
Thanks EU.
Oh, a psychadelics thread. Let me share my thoughts on them.
>>336 (OP) 
I can vow for what you wrote, when it comes to psilocybin, because that's the only one I tried.
I took one mushroom and a second one a few days later with a friend that organized them.
I have not taken any from that point on, because don't feel any cravings towards them. They are just a nice experience. I've never taken any drugs before that. (Every substance effects your body. Simple things as eating an apple has a big effect on body and mind.)

I agree with the sentiment, that no man has the right to forbid another man from consuming something.

Making those psychedelics legal would greatly help in making humanity happier.

>>349
The fifth picture in this post is very good advice in my opinion.
It can be detrimental to jump too quickly in consciousnous if you're too conditioned and live within strong illusions.
I took those Psilocybin mushrooms that were blue yellow and pretty sour in taste.

You understood a lot of stuff by taking them.
It makes you more creative and loving. Only love/unity exists in that state.
But the important part comes after the trip. That is how you incorporate what you've realized in your daily life.
The creativity and open mindedness stayed to great extents.
Also things that you did in a higher consciousness can come to bite you in the ass, if you ever drop in consciousness again.
I see their application as catalysts for self development to maybe be consumed twice a year. (That would give me more than enough material to think about and to incorporate.)
Taking them is not without dangers though. (At least to the outside observer.)
My friend almost killed himself, after taking a rather high dose of the shrooms and smoked a joint at the same time. If he did it, it would've been the right choice. But apparently it was not.
(I'm typing from a phone, so I won't go into detail, why he wanted to kill himself but ultimately didn't. Suffice to say that he understood the Illuminati.)
But even if 1 out of 50 killed themselves, it would be worth it. Even if 100% killed themselves.
People who don't understand that, need to understand that death is the goal of life.

I only grasp fragments of who the Illuminati are (the enlightened).
They seem to be the people, who can without drugs stay in the absolutely rational state of mind. Basically becoming a cold blooded reptile. Human in appearance, but the brain internals and this "human soul" is lacking.
This would be becoming Satan.
The other direction is becoming part of the "good" God. The one that's love and unity of all things.

Ultimately love is more powerful than hate, but not in this world, this earth. This world is under control of Satan, the reptile, the serpent.
Conquer your desires and become either a man like Jesus or a part of the Illuminati. The path splits and there is no good or bad choice. Only your will and which path you want to choose.
Many of these realizations came after I tried to figure out what my friend said and what I experienced.

Psychedelics are really fun.
>>696
At first I thought you were a paid india spammer, but the follow statement caught my attention.
> Some cannot handle specific drugs and the effects may be their end as a human being.
I'm not sure how you meant this, but if you meant it the way I interpreted it, then you seem to know what you're talking about.

But I believe people should try a mild dose to verify things for themselves.
Also, to show my reptile that I control it, I will not check zzzchan for an entire week.
Just to show that dopamine craving motherfucker who's the boss.
See you on 17.11.2021 at 6PM CET in this thread.
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>>718
>I will not check zzzchan for an entire week.
>posts on vpn
nice try
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>>708
>those other recreational drugs that people put in their brains are bad!
>it's degenerate behavior!
>but the drugs I like are good!
>it's totally different!
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>>721
advil is the same as heroin
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>>722
Nice strawman.  How much paint did you have to huff to come up with that one?
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>>721
Never said other drugs are bad or can't be used safely. Psychs won't make you experience withdrawal or die from an OD. There is a difference. Not all drugs are the same. Psychs make you work for your reward. It's not free like with other drugs. You can have a bad trip and experience horror. They're extremely powerful life altering introspective substances that must be treated with respect. Those that like them need time to work up the nerve to trip and still use tripsitters and rituals. It's not recreational in the same way as other drugs. It's not excessive low effort pleasure, it's an challenging self-shaping experience.
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>>727
The other crackheads say all the same things.
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>>724
shut up faggot
>>743
>crackhead
At least use the proper pejorative stupid faggot.
The druggie cycle
>ingest some shit, a little bit more than last time to counteract your increasing tolerance
>see a pretty light show
>be convinced that one of the random hallucinations is related to something IRL and assign value to it
>do something that you could have easily done without the drugs telling you to but you're a druggie and have no autonomy in your life
>the positive change in your life is falsely correlated to your hallucination so like some kind of pavlovian feedback loop you further ascribe positive qualities to your drug usage
>find the nearest avenue to shill your lifestyle, probably get somebody who isn't as committed as you to your lifestyle to try krokodil or something
>pay a nigger to give you some shit
>repeat
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>>748
Essentially, though you left out "decide that consooming drugs makes you better than everyone else."
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I wonder ((( (((who))) ))) is spamming this by making unfair comparisons to irrelevant drugs. Psychedelics are sacred.

>>748
Bluepilled bullshit.
>>769
Sour grapes.
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>>771
Huff some more paint and post some more, wigger druggie trash.
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>>772
You're not being fair, paint isn't a psychedelic. Why can't you argue like a human being?
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>>773
>Why can't you argue like a human being?
>curacao
You don't find anything but monkeys in curacao.
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Every junkie ITT can be summarized in a single short film.  You are not special, and you are not healthy.  You are rotting your brain.

>>710
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>here are pictures of druggies in afghanistan
<OH YOU POSTED WITH A BULGARIAN FLAG
<LMAGO IMAGINE BEING BULGARIAN LMAO LMAO UR DUMB
So you're a butthurt Afghan.
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>>773
It's a distinction without a difference.  Drugs are for niggers.  Why do you choose to behave like a nigger?  Why aren't you strong enough to face reality sober?  Fucking disgusting druggie trash.
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>>785
You are unable to make a distinction from heroin and caffeine that's present even it tea doesn't mean that the distinction isn't there. I find your intelligence lacking, so i can't take you seriously.
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>>784
>>785
Come and take it, Nixon.

Psychs are not addictive. They're anti-addictive. They've been used with great success to treat addiction. Psychonauts are sober. 3 times per year is regular use. Psychs aren't intended to be taken often. Psychonauts face reality in a deeper way than you can image. To reject psychs is to reject reality. Being unable to experience psychs is missing out on a massive part of the human experience. Psychs are consciousness.

You've been acting like a tantrum throwing ape this whole thread. Come up with an argument instead of bitching about shit that has nothing to do with psychs. Psychs have drawbacks but you haven't mentioned any of them which makes it obvious you have no idea what you're bitching about.
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>>786
What is your reddit chart supposed to accomplish? Is it supposed to shame people into agreeing with you?
>>788
Psychonauts are sober, except they're defined by their imbibing. To reject psychs is to reject reality, but since psychs aren't intended to be taken often I guess reality only exists a couple of times a year. But they're consciousness itself, they're a massive part of the human experience, most people being Human only 3 times a year I suppose. The things you say are illogical. This shouldn't surprise anyone because thinking incoherently is generally considered related to the kinds of drugs you adore. The Human experience has as much to do with LSD as it does with Asprin, Heroin, the Nintendo Switch and Grand Theft Auto IV. Don't delude yourself, your beloved substances are no more than novel entertainment products or, perhaps at best, medication.
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>>790
>Is it supposed to shame people into agreeing with you
No it is supposed to shame you into not wasting time and energy, yours and that of others. Emotions are good and all, just not for rationally finding out the truth. A right wing SJW convinces none. Perhaps you have other strengths, perhaps you are good with your hands or you're loyal and caring to your friends and family, but thinking is not your element.
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>>786
That chart (after the first two boxes, which are the entirety of what it needed to be anyway) is the soyest reddit bullshit I've ever fucking seen. It's also directly contradicts these salient points and encourages (prescribes, infact) sermons with no relation to actual arguments.
>The position that is more reasonable and has more supporting evidence should be accepted as true
"More evidence" is incoherent; either an argument is sound or it is not. You can say that something is "more likely", but in that case you obviously don't have a high modality.
Anyway, this is either a meaningless statement or wrong. Since neither party in a discussion is perfectly articulate and is very likely very much so not articulate, the majority of evidence available to a speaker is not going to be stated in the thread and even less is going to be parsed successfully by a reader. A position that is more strongly supported is by definition going to be adopted, but it's a bad idea to assume that just because you interpret 'more' evidence for a position that your fellow readers have 'more' evidence for that position inside their skulls, uninhibited by their ability or willingness to articulate that evidence.
>The person asserting a position bears the onus of demonstrating its truth.
Sure. But many times a speaker will state their own position so that you can attack it, not to convince you that it is true. I would rarely have an interest in changing your mind, it simply is the case that doing so comes up in the course of trying to elaborate on my position so that you can change my mind. This is not a fruitless endeavor (for me) and if the positions are mutual (we both lay out internal reserves of evidence to try and bait out contrary points) this is reversible and so not a fruitless endeavor at all.
Also, the idea of things being true is fucking retarded. An undisproven hypothesis might be a useful working tool but it isn't some kind of higher truth that can be relied upon.
>provided the following rules are obeyed
Go fuck yourself, but also, why would you ever limit your sources of information? Just because someone doesn't prescribe to your (incredibly gay) format of argumentation doesn't mean that they don't have something useful to say.
>3. 4.
My first comment on the onus of truth applies here.

The really retarded shit:
>Do not introduce new arguments while another argument has yet to be resolved
What? Whether or not an argument is valid has literally nothing to do with whether or not an independent argument for the same position is valid. Even if you can't dismantle one argument, you might be able to dismantle others or demonstrate an issue with their basis. That's useful to the person putting forward the arguments. It's also useful to you if you're trying to convince me of your position (for the same reason), especially because something you might bring up in the context of one argument may apply to the (truer) internal unarticulated form of another argument.
There's literally no reason to claim that people should do this and it can only impede discourse.
>Do not move on to another argument if it is shown that a fact you have relied upon is inaccurate
This might be the dumbest fucking thing ever written. If an argument is shown to be incoherent, and all arguments supporting the same position are not exhausted, obviously you would move on to the next. The other arguments don't magically become invalid just because you killed one strawman. What else are you going to do, end the discussion and have neither party learn anything because a random irrelevant tangent of the discussion was resolved?
>You cheated. The discussion is terminated.
Both of the above apply here.
>You are deemed to have conceded all opposing arguments up to this point
You've got to be trolling. Because some faggot trips over himself you're just going to refuse to communicate with them and assume that they're wrong about anything? You're not going to convince anyone or learn jack shit if you cut off conversation with someone entirely because one point they made was irrelevant or flawed, and you're going to become convinced of insanely retarded shit with essentially no backing if you assume that just because an argument was presented against someone who was subject to you throwing such a tantrum that it's correct.
>You forfeit any right to complain about the discussion
I'll post what I want when I want where I want. Persecute me at your own peril.

Also, there's no reason to limit psyches to three times a year or not to use either other nootropics or peds. Regardless, posting that chart is about as gay as fellating a thousand faggot dicks at a furry convention. Commit get hit by a bus and have all your teeth fall out.
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You were born without an ego. That ego had to develop as you grew up. You gained awareness. That's why tripping is like being reborn. The ability to reshape yourself in such a way is empowering. It counteracts the evil shaping we were put through as kids.

>>790
>To reject psychs is to reject reality, but since psychs aren't intended to be taken often I guess reality only exists a couple of times a year.
Since psychs intensify the perception of reality, their usage should be weighed against one's tolerance of reality.

It takes time to integrate what one learns during a trip. The more intense the trip, the longer it takes. Psychedelics make time perceived as being much slower. While tripping, a few minutes can feel like hours. A whole trip can feel like months. It really is like a trip. In this case the destination is consciousness.

The brain needs time to regain homeostasis. Trips use up nutrients that need to be replenished. Tripping without those nutrients can lead to a bad trip. It's a good idea to take supplements before tripping. You can be a hero and try taking it often but you'll start getting bad trips.

Tripping can reveal things about yourself and the world that you're not comfortable with. You don't have an ego to protect you. You view yourself like you'd view another person. It can make you feel the weight of your mistakes in a truly crushing way. Considering that you perceive this as lasting for a long time, it can be tortuous. You can get stuck in thought loops thinking about past mistakes over and over. Psychs forcibly teach you to control your thoughts.
>Don't delude yourself, your beloved substances are no more than novel entertainment products or, perhaps at best, medication.
Psychs set people on whole new courses in life. Tripping encourages people to appreciate nature because it's one of the most comfortable places to be while tripping. Tripping is empathogenic. People that trip have an urge to reach out to people. It's common for someone tripping to reach out to old friends afterwards or try to make new ones. People come down from trips feeling like they have a goal. They've realized how they've been messing up and they want to fix it. Tripping is known to motivate people to try new hobbies. It's known to help people work their way out of negative thought patterns. Tripping gives people a new appreciation for art and music. You start understanding psychedelic art and start recognizing psychedelic influences all over. It's more than entertainment, it's life altering.
>>793
>Also, there's no reason to limit psyches to three times a year
Depends on your dose and how much time you want to integrate.
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>>793
You don't care about ideas at all and your pointless mental masturbation is incredibly exhausting for me. Pass.
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>>795
>You don't care about ideas at all
Can you given any evidence? Oh wait, I'm getting this out of order.
>Do not introduce new arguments while another argument has yet to be resolved.
>You cheated.
>You are deemed to to have conceded all opposing arguments up to this point.
>You forfeit any right to complain about the discussion.
>>795 sure seems like a complaint about the discussion. Better delete that post. Also, psyches are canceled, since you have to concede all opposing arguments up to this point, I guess >>337 wins the debate since he disagreed with you first and you broke da ruruz.
>>793
I was going to post this last night but I assumed it would fall on deaf ears anyway. To put it as concisely as possible, the image does not describe a discussion but a formalized debate. It's an agreement, a contract. Actual discussion is just the act of two or more people stating and describing their beliefs and opinions. When two people disagree, they can choose to argue their position. An argument is the application of syllogism to a set of premises to prove or disprove a conclusion. Note that you need to have points of agreement to have premises. Without this, true rational argument is impossible. What rules of logic could you even apply? 

The rules of this debate are fabrications of atheism+ speds. It is pilpul: Allow your opponent to make positive claims, never agree to any premises, appeal to authority about evidence, and then claim victory.
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>>788
>You've been acting like a tantrum throwing ape this whole thread.
EVERYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS THE SAME PERSON
I TAKE DRUGS AND I'M ENLIGHTENED
IF YOU DON'T SEEK OUT DRUGS YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON BEING HUMAN
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAA FAGGOT
FUKKKIIIN EPIC MAAAN XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>788
None of this changes the fact that drugs are a niggerish foreign vice introduced to the West, publicized, popularized, and normalized by ((( (((the usual suspects))) ))) about sixty years back.  Are you one of ((( (((them))) ))), or are you just a brain-damaged druggie wigger aping what you see on the televitz?
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>>790
>Don't delude yourself, your beloved substances are no more than novel entertainment products 
"Psychedelics" should be called psychotogenics.  In the short term they temporarily produce the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia, including hallucinations, mood swings, and psychotic delusions.  Habitual use correlates with schizotypal personality disorder and all the classes of delusion normally associated with it.  Particularly common is the delusion "choosing to be a druggie shitbag makes me 'stunning and brave' and not a moral leper at all," though it is not clear to me which is the cause and which is the effect.
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>>794
>blah blah blah huffing paint is good for you
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Kikery is in full bloom, i'm actually surprised it took so long.
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Who's paying all these agents? This thread is getting spammed with low effort strawman and ad hominem bullshit.

This thread is called "legalize psychs" not "you should try psychs". Psychs will always be too intense for most people. It's always going to be a niche interest. You can support their legalization without taking them. Don't allow the government to commit unwarranted violence against harmless people. Don't let yourself get trained by the current political oligarchy to surrender your own power. You can decide for yourself which drugs you do or don't take, not schlomo.

Psychs are a huge, life altering experience. That's why they're considered sacred.

>>804
The televitz depicts psychedelic usage as accurately as it does firearms. Common knowledge of psychedelics is tragically ignorant. Schlomo does not want you to expand your consciousness and start questioning.
>>805
Nobody becomes psychotic from psychedelics. The kind of hallucinations you experience while tripping are completely different than the kind that comes from psychosis. Tripping hallucinations are from synesthesia, something that allows you to explore your consciousness. Psychotic hallucinations are from overwhelming stress, anxiety, and fear. You can't be psychotic by definition if you know you're tripping.
>>808
((( (((Somebody))) ))) is inconvenienced by these opinions.
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>>810
I only care about legalizing drugs if it means spic cartels will lose power and money. I hear from some people that legalizing the production and sale of it will actually increase the price and thus increase competition with cartelniggers so I don't know what to believe. Life would be so much easier if all hispanics around the world would just die.
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>>805
>moral leper
says the racist nazi LMAO
>>810
>harmless
Either you or those in mutual agreement with you have spent this entire thread trying to shill your noggin candy to us. By merely existing as a druggie, you're naturally going to try to drag others into the same pit you dug for yourself. Honestly, a sane government would neck you as fast as they could to minimize the damage.
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>>818
Look at this nazi larper. loser LMAO NO ONE LOVES YOU HAHAHAHA
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>>810
It think it's more important to be anti-cartel rather than pro-marijuana. I have heard that marijuana has medical properties and I'm inclined to believe that, however that's just it, it's medicine. It's not something that should be used recreationally like many stoners do.However, I don't really consider it a crime to use it as such. For me, a criminal is someone who poses a greater threat to society like a murderer, arsonist, thief, or carjacker. I don't really consider smoking a joint in one's apartment or mom's basement to be "criminal" in nature. Certainly, I would consider a person attempting to sell marijuana to school children to be criminal as that messes with the country's future and there is evidence to suggest that children using marijuana have issues with brain development. 
>>815
That's quite the sad thing about Hispanics, I don't think they're entirely bad and even in some cases, they can be respectable. It's just that they've adopted leftshit ideologies and then bitch and whine when things don't go their way. In other words, it's better for everyone if they just stayed in their own countries and tried to fix their own problems. It's the same reason I reason I respect the NUS, a now defunct Mexican clerical fascist party. There was actually a Mexican anon who admired them back on /fascist/ if anyone remembers that board.
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>>818
I must agree.  Cultural destruction by the Jew is everyone's business.  Homosexuality, transsexualism, coalburning, drug use, all are pushed and normalized by the Electric Jew in your living room.
>>822
Latin America has produced some based political movements like Integralismo in Brazil, but none of them is ever allowed to be in power.
>>719
> >I will not check zzzchan for an entire week.
> >posts on vpn
> nice try
I actually forgot exactly what I wrote in this thread and thought I was allowed to check other boards on zzzchan. I didn't dare to look at this thread to verify.
So I guess it's a draw between Satan and Jehowa.
Next time I'll be more conscious of what I write.
>>794
I like you americanon.
> Since psychs intensify the perception of reality, their usage should be weighed against one's tolerance of reality.
I agree. The issue is to figure out how many traumata a man had, before he takes the appropriate amount of psychodelics.

(Also sorry for bringing glowniggers here. They follow me around like they're getting paid for it. Wait...you should stop paying taxes.)
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A portal psychedelic like Ayahuasca, DMT, or Psilocybin puts people on the radar for abuse by propagandist entities that have the capability to control human will. A true psychedelic like Cannabis, LSD, MDMA, would keep the psychedelic localized, as long as its infrequent and you are not under attachment or psychic attack. Regular Cannabis use does allow entity control and abuse. All external forces are enemies, all external forces are evil that have anything to say or do to humans.
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>>3204
that pic is such bullshit, it's literally a superimposed drawing there are no lips or chin on the banner, neither are there eyes above the eagle's wings
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