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How can libertarians hope to win the war of ideas if the State can just endlessly subsidize propaganda in a hopelessly complicated web?
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>>1407 (OP) 
Or, hella, even capitalists won't even support pro-market propaganda. Most folk who succeed in the market end up financially supporting socialist/communist propaganda. Given this issue, I don't understand how the ideas of the free market can win in the marketplace of ideas.
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>>1407 (OP) 
Being right does not mean you win it generally means you lose. This applies to winning a war or especially winning arguments of 'logic'. You're not meant to win just meant to know you're right. There's nothing worse than being right about something and wanting others to be right too once you realize that they are not capable of being so wise. One study implied 70 percent of humans can't think for themselves, that npc thing wherein 70 percent have no internal dialog. A wild autist will say his thoughts are too complex for English but that's retarded and I won't even humor it by arguing with some near nonverbal screeching autist so inb4.  Such an autistic likely loves the rules and that's one reason Fascism and Communism is so popular on imageboards. They don't even want to have rights. They literally enjoy straight jackets, autistics do, just like normalfaggots enjoy being spied on and boot licking police officer boots and etc. I guess the autistics need more obvioius a restraint as they can't sense the implied invisible bars that society has, like when they assume everyone is having sex but them without regard to the consequences, and non-autistics do it too, don't see the consequences, and here we are we have a society.
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>>1458
The difference between an npc and and a autistic is just one is retarded and thinks it's special for something someone comprehended in less time but comes with severely more awful and dreadful opinions.
They're both one track minded morons
>>1458
Are you saying, "People don't support markets because most people are sheep, and sheep like fascism/communism"?
If so, why are so many leaders, particularly business leaders, not even ideologically supporting markets even though that's the best way that they can maintain their wealth? E.g., Soros/Zuckerberg/etc.?
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>>1462
What do you mean by a market? Do you mean a free one with no rules? If so, sheep follow the ads and the powers that be that like the status quo keep them following such ads. You have to already be rich to have the ads so it's a thing they do that the sheep enable. If they let free market happen then new money happens and that is stealing to them, the powers that be don't want power vacuumes and such. The sheep just care that the item stays the same themselves. Another chocolate bar phone, another cheese burger that's the exact same as the last, normalfaggots hate variety and freedom and choice and customization and so do the powers that be as that sorta freedom threatens the status quo. Fascism and Communism is all about being athoritarian and the authority is the powers. 

Also, what people say is usually meaningless. Actions speak louder than words. Behind every businessman is a politician's ethics. No real rich guy cares about idealogy, just power, and to keep it they lie to sheep. Lies are advertising too you know. 

I don't see why you would say that's the best way to maintain their wealth. The best way to maintain wealth is to have it passed down to you. Nepotism. They hate new money. They hate the free market.  They don't want a plebeian to become a new competitor, a new king, a new rich family to make their wealth thinner than it already is as they have to share finite resources. If some day it all changes the sheep will cry out in agony that they lost their smart phones and other lame shit that they are used to having, they hate change, normalfaggots do. Just as you cannot teach some old boomer how to use a computer you can't teach sheep to want freedom. It's too stressful to have something  different happen to them. Every day and everything has to be the exact same. It's one reason they banned hookers, they want to fuck the same woman all  for eternity, but now I'm ranting  a bit hard with this hate boner I have for them. I could rag on them all day.
>>1462
> why are so many leaders, particularly business leaders, not even ideologically supporting markets even though that's the best way that they can maintain their wealth?
A free market won't maintain their wealth. A free market means unrestricted competition. It means you have to keep innovating and providing value to customers everyday or you will lose your place to companies that do. Why fight for survival everyday when you can bribe the government to lock your competition out of the market forever. Every copro spends huge sums of money every year on lobbying legislators for more market regulations not less for exactly that reason.
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>>1510
>A free market won't maintain their wealth.
What.
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>>1512
>What.
If the only reason you're rich is because of your political connections then you will crash and burn in a free market where you actually have to deliver value to customers to get paid.
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>>1513
I apologize for being dumb about this, but if you're already rich, then an index fund in a free market should more than sustain your wealth, no?
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