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Okay, I talked to one retired fed about surveillance technology to ascertain where things stand.

TLDR: It's bad. Very, very bad.

During COVID, the regime tested AI facial recognition software on masked faces. Only ears and eyes were visible, which was the point. The results allowed the regime to streamline recognizing you from just your ears and eyes. 
There are effectively no barriers that the feds will face in accessing private phone data and even if you keep your cellphone off all the time, you will not be able to drive anywhere or go anywhere without eventually showing up on a database. Everyone who has flown on a plane or worked in any job where they photograph you is in a database.

The conclusion to all of this is that, at present, a White insurgency is impossible. Bob Matthews got caught after just a month. And he barely did anything. Today, I don't know if he could have lasted a week. Especially given his absolutely abysmal security consciousness. 
Only lone wolves could possibly hit one target (and not very effectively since 90% of lone wolves are incompetent) before getting caught. 
Call me a demoralizer if you wish, but banish from your minds thoughts of storming government buildings with a rifle in teams of 10. Such a cell could not accomplish much before all members were rounded up.

The only option is to build pro-White organizations and gain power legally until we can actually get people into positions where they can sabotage this insane police state. 
I know this upsets people. But present a better option. Turner Diaries could not happen with this level of surveillance. You cannot even walk through the woods without showing up on some asshole hunter's live feed GPS deer-cam. And what would he do with footage of White insurgents? I think he'd turn them in to to FBI immediately thinking he is doing his flag proud. There is a reason why the PIRA quit when they did.
>>10012 (OP) 
We should have resisted in the 1990s. That was the last time it could have worked in the traditional way.
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>>10012 (OP) 
Secure communications are more accessible than ever. Surveillance works both ways. Illegal activity is common on social media with no government intervention. There's plenty of insurgent organizations that persist into the present day. Don't be a retard and you won't get caught.
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>>10012 (OP) 
What do you suppose a literal fed is going to tell you?
<Nah, bro if you wear a ski mask and don't have a phone we're fucked, go ahead and commit crime.
They will never tell you their own weaknesses. They're not that stupid.
>but he was an ex-fed
There are no ex-feds.
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>>10014
Illicit social media activity will not overthrow the regime.

>>10015
All valid points. And, it's possible that he could have been exaggerating the accuracy of the facial recognition AI.
However, if even half of this is true, things are very bad.
>>10012 (OP) 
>waa waa everything is hopeless
Have any of our guys actually tried upskilling and getting in with these intel agencies? I wouldn't call it "infiltration" since there are probably already good people in some of them. Tucker is CIA and he says a lot of good shit. Spic Fuentes is probably mobbed up with NSA at this point

I ask because I was just reading about studying cyber at my local community college. Apparently there's an intensive bootcamp on a military base in my state. Associates' in a year, $60k starting on average

This isn't a "if you can't beat 'em join 'em" argument. There are at least a dozen of these agencies all with conflicting goals. I just really doubt they're all run by da jooz or whatever. In any case these sorts of skills are immensely useful in the private sector

The internet has been nothing but demoralisation propaganda for awhile now and the chans were always especially bad
>>10019
>Tucker
>Spic Fuentes
Holy shit kill yourself.
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>>10020
Both of them have more influence on the national discourse (and therefore politics) than you ever will, nigger. The right is addicted to losing.

If the Jews really run America, why is every branch of the military except for the meme space force run by white gentiles? Ever think of that one?
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>>10022
We will never win without working together with the elites who still believe in America and human rights for white people. Hitler was basically military intelligence you fucking retard. And stormfags are basically the right-wing equivalent of Lenin's infantile disorder. You'll all go out like Strasser and Rohm. Deservedly so for being antisocial spergs who fail to understand realpolitik
>>10019
Mexican gangs infiltrated the military and now run the security apparatus in Mexico.

>>10020
He's right though. Nick Fuentez has has more positive influence than you have, even if we consider the negative influence he also has.
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>>10024
Nick Fuentes has done more to turn away high IQ White men from antisemitism than anyone else in history. The damage he has done is unfathomable and the "positive" influence he has amounts to making anti-White brown biomass hate jews as well.
>>10025
I didn't start watching Fuentes until the whole Kanye thing but he definitely helped me get better at explaining the JQ to normies. His memory is a steel trap for all the names, documents, etc.

I've also redpilled at least one high-IQ normie by turning him on to Fuentes. You boomer wignats really underestimate how funny this nigga is and how much that helps the pills go down easier with the irony-poisoned youth.

But yeah, mald harder. Outside of his personal life the only issue with Fuentes is the weird focus on Catholicism but I think a lot of his followers tune that out
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>>10019
>I ask because I was just reading about studying cyber at my local community college.
You will be in a cubicle with pajeets helping boomers send emails.
>The internet has been nothing but demoralisation propaganda for awhile now
Demoralization propaganda is encouraging people to join intelligence agencies.
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>>10025
>the "positive" influence he has amounts to making anti-White brown biomass hate jews as well.

Is this a bad thing? Reducing options available to jews?
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>>10030
Browns think Jews are white and don't need to be taught to hate them.
>>10025
I disagree. 
I find Fuentes cringe because of his Christianity. Many of his anti jewish arguments fall flat because he forces everything through a Christian world view that, if you don't subscribe to, ends up seeming like we only hate jews because of convoluted biblical stuff rather than the very real influence they wield over media and politics.

That said, high IQ men figure this out on our own. It's dumb Christians and less knowledgeable people who we need on our side. Without them, we're nothing but dissatisfied intellectuals bitching on the Internet.
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>>10037
That said, I wish Fuentes would use his influence to build actual political organization rather than just him and his show.
>>10027
Okay faggot. All the alumni pictured on the website were white so I'm probably gonna go for it. You can go shoot up a Walmart and we'll see which one of us does more for muh white race in the long-term
>>10026
>wignats
Wiggers calling other people wignats is on par with leftists calling other people regressive.
>Outside of his personal life the only issue with Fuentes is the weird focus on Catholicism
Then the time he decided to promote the anti-White Pakistani who thought the Rotherham grooming gang victims deserved it? The time he went on a crusade against eugenics? The time he criticized Trump for not loving niggers enough while calling Kamala brat? The time he called for an alliance with the Marxists?
>but I think a lot of his followers tune that out
And the people who interact with him indirectly don't.
>>10030
It is if it means that Whites start associating antisemitism with being a resentful third worldist mutt.
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If genuine nationalists come into power then these surveillance technologies will be extremely useful. Imagine giving every illegal immigrant riot the Jan 6 treatment. Using facial recognition databases to find out where the live, work, etc. Contact tracing to find the communist organisers and ship them off to Rwanda

The biggest problem with Trump's first term was that the whole bureaucracy hated him and stymied him at every turn. I'm not saying I'm optimistic about another right-wing victory after Trump, but if there is one, having /ourguys/ involved with these critical technologies would be great. And at the very least you can make some money and move to Arkansas with the Nazi boys

>>10042
Aside from the outright communists Zoomers are already antisemitic thanks to the genocide in Gaza. Fuentes isn't going to change that. If anything he and Kanye have only helped. Go back to your retirement home and stop derailing the thread. The only reason I mentioned Fuentes is cause I felt his ideas about "infiltration" were relevant
>>10043
And before you say "boohoo da jooz are gonna use surveillance against us" -- no shit, Sherlock. If that happens there's literally nothing we can do to stop it aside from opsec. I don't bother torposting because my years of Internet history already speaks for itself about my politics. But being a doomer about something you literally have no power over is fucking gay. Assess the reality of the situation and do your best to achieve power for our people regardless
>>10043
>illegal immigrant
>illegal
Can you be any more obvious? Fuck off.

>giving a shit about Trumpstein or any politician for that matter
Fuck off.

>le achieve power
Fuck off. This thread is worthless and made by bad-faith actors.
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>>10012 (OP) 
Yes, because they needed us to cover our faces to track our eyes. Were sunglasses banned? No. >>10013
They did. Why do you think the prison system doubled from when the cameras went up in the mid 80s to 2001? By 2001 they banned privacy after our own planes hit our own buildings. What does that sound like? 
>>10043
>zoomers hate jews and are commies!
lol no they just watch tiktok vidoes and swipe left and right they have no political opinion other than what their k-12 gave them. 
>>10045
But anon you are supposed to feel so represented and heckin valid!
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>>10045
If you want to self-sabotage rather than let go of your ressentiment towards da jooz I can't stop you. I'm just trying to counter signal your faggot feminine retardation.
>achieving power is worthless
Walmart. Now!
>>10046
Do you work with Zoomers? Because I do and they all hate Israel. Even the Christians.
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>>10043
>Aside from the outright communists Zoomers are already antisemitic thanks to the genocide in Gaza.
No one cares about semites blowing each other up except browns, leftists and geriatrics.
>>10047
>da jooz
Seriously?
Type "Heil Hitler" and post a swastika.
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>>10052
And don't forget to denounce the Talmud.
>>10046
We didn't resist in the 90s. There were a few lone wolves who fought haphazardly for different reasons. And Muslims.
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>>10012 (OP) 
>you cant fight just give up
>trust me bros
Glowfag: The Darkpill Bageloo
>>10052
I agree that the Jews are the single most influential ethnic group in America, and their interests are often directly opposed to WASPs. However, there are several other groups that cause almost as many problems. Irish, Italians, Indians, homosexuals etc. So blaming literally everything on the Jews is fucking retarded.

Also, no matter how much you hate the Jews, they still run the country and you don't. If you want to achieve power, even with a grassroots movement like German National Socialism, you'll have to work together with decent elites at some point. Even Hitler had Jewish generals. So lumping every single Jew and mischling together isn't really productive.
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>>10062
Hitler had jewish generals? That's news to me.
How are Irish and Italians causing problems?
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>>10069
The Irish and Italians both supported the Hart-Celler immigration disaster back in the 60s, notably the Kennedys.

People say the Jews run the media but after doing some digging I discovered a lot of Irish, Italians and blacks as well. Rupert Murdoch is Irish. The chairman of Warner Bros. Discovery, Samuel DiPiazza, is Italian.

The same could be said for institutional investors. Blackrock is run by Fink sure but Vanguard and State Street are run by the Irish. I could go on. The Fed isn't even run by Jews at this point.

The Irish hate Nordics, i.e. actual white people, because of muh evil Brits. The Italians are mixed with mudslimes and niggers. Both groups are visually indistinguishable from Jews in my opinion, and I have a strong Jewdar
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I seriously hope you guys aren't retarded enough to buy into malicious disinfo disseminated for the purpose of exculpating the fucking kikes. I really do.
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>>10073
I care about the facts. If you insist on blaming the Jews for everything despite them objectively not controlling everything, then you have a mental disorder and I suggest
>meds
>NOW
You stormfaggots are no better than leftists and fundamentalist Christians in the way you totally ignore reality in the service of your emotional needs. Yes, you people need the bogeyman of DA JOOZ to justify your own failures, or perhaps the way you've been betrayed by other members of our race. I get it because I've been there. But at a certain point it becomes time to put away childish things and start doing real politics. Tilting at windmills will get you nowhere. Nigger.
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>Not the jews.
>Not the jews.
>Not the jews.
>It's the...
>...
>It just isn't, okay?
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>>10072
>I found one Irish guy and one Italian. Therefore, Irish and Italians also control the media along with jews.
This is the kind of thinking that shitlibs claim we employ to blame jews.
Why do you literally use the kind of faulty logic that liberals believe we use? Does that not strike anyone as a little bit suspicious? As if the only think you think you know about us is what other liberals say about our reasoning on reddit? 

> run by the Irish
If "the Irish" rank the financial system, why then does the regime not benefit Irish people? Why is Ireland being flooded with non-Irish? Israel, which is jewish, gets to maintain racial purity. But not Ireland or the Irish people.
Why, anon. Explain. 
Explain also why Irish people are not given a sacrosanct place in the culture of globohomo like the jews are.

> I have a strong Jewdar
Really? Yet you adhere to the EXACT same stereotype that liberals claim we employ to justify our anti-semitism: Anecdotes and isolated individuals who are not working for the benefit of their race. 
Extremely suspicious.
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>>10074
>DA JOOZ 
That is a marxist term that originates on marxist/liberal reddit spaces.
Just like the idea that the only reason we call out jewish power is because we spotted a few isolated jews in positions of power and extrapolated that all jews must be in on it.

>nigger
Do you think that this will make you fit in? 
Do you think that we don't notice that you parrot the EXACT same marxist lies that they accuse us of holding?
Literally, you are parroting word for word their understanding of why we hate jews whilst substituting Irish & Italians to take away blame from the jews, who, unlike the Irish, use a network of power to ADVANCE THE INTERESTS OF JEWS in America & the west.
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>>10076
>You disagree with my monomania therefore you must be a liberal
Clearly you're a little slow so I'll use small words this time.

Obviously the Irish and Italian "Americans" don't have the power or the will to protect their home countries from destruction. I never denied that the Jews are the single most influential force in American politics. Especially foreign policy. Murdoch is I believe a Protestant Zionist, and the Catholic Church is similarly corrupted by Jewish interests. So these other ethnics are playing second fiddle to Jewish power.

Regardless, it's simply dishonest to pretend the system is entirely Jewish. Go look at the Fed leadership if you don't believe me. There are only a few Jews, and this is the organization wignats imagine as the lynchpin of Jewish power in America. Even the media isn't as Jewish as it used to be, although you do still have your Jewish empires in the space, such as Comcast which is run by the Roberts family. Or the Newhouses when it comes to print

Not only is lying to your own people in service of your mental illness a sin, it causes the right to lose credibility in the eyes of normal, sane people. If we want to win, we need to at the very least not be the laughingstock of the entire population.

If you still don't understand what I'm saying after that summary than you're either a mongoloids or arguing in bad faith. In either case, gods help you, because I can't.
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Jews are the powerhouse and blood vessels for all things evil and wrong on earth. If they were taken out of the equation everything else would sort itself out almost immediately.
>>10080
> these other ethnics are playing second fiddle to Jewish power.
If they were playing at all, there would be some kind of evidence that Irish or Italians were privileged over Germans, Anglos, or other Americans.

What Murdoch and filth like him are is alienated shabbos goyim. Shabbos goyim may be individually powerful, but they have no loyalties other than to jews. They are alienated from their own ethnos. 
It would be GOOD if Irish were trying to wrest power from the jews to advance Irish interests. Even if that came at the expense of the rest of us. That would be a GOOD thing because that creates conflict among the elites.
It is a sad thing that everyone is so deracinated that they don't give a shit about their own ethnic power. Except for non-Whites, of course. An the jews use them to advance their interests, but swat them down the moment their ETHNOS becomes too powerful for their little pond.

Again, in simple terms for you, mr. genius: You are only powerful as a group if you think as a group.
If you are just a random Bantu squatting over a CEO position you were PLACED in by jews, you have no more power than what you're given and thus not actually powerful. You're not a force.
To attain lasting power, you must be racially conscious with a population also racially conscious enough to support each other and thus you.

This is a concept so basic to White nationalists that you simply must not be one if you don't get it. That is why I think you're a liberal.
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>>10088
>evidence Irish or Italians were privileged over Germans, Anglos, or other [REAL] Americans.
THEY RUN THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY YOU FUCKING RETARD! THERE WASN'T A SINGLE WASP IN BIDEN'S CABINET!
VANGUARD AND STATE STREET, THE SECOND AND THIRD LARGEST INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS, ARE RUN BY THE IRISH! NOT WASPS!
THE KENNEDYS AND ITALIAN FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTED MASS IMMIGRATION BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BRING MORE OF THEIR SUBHUMAN COUSINS INTO OUR COUNTRY!

"White" nationalists should be put on the boats with the Mexicans as far as I'm concerned.
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If you are from one of the areas colored in orange you are barely better than a nigger or Jew in my mind
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>>10089
>>10090
This is a very convincing post and obviously not a jew doing pretty lame D&C.
I especially was convinced by your all caps, which shows that you're angry and upset.
As we know, all Nazis are angry and upset all the time, that's why we're Nazis after all. So we tend to type in all caps.

Furthermore, I am even more convinced by your appeal to reduce actual White people to only a vulnerably small number by referencing one quote by Ben Franklin rather than some sort of coherent genetic, cultural, or historic standard. This is good because, as you know, Nazis like Dr. William Pierce always advocated calling everyone not from the blue area "subhuman"
Indeed, Dr. Pierce always used to say that White people are better off fighting Irish, southern Germans, Danes, and even Swedes. This is a very well known trait among Nazis.

Why, Hitler's first act was to genocide southern Germans because they were subhuman. 
"Bavarians and Austrians are basically niggers" ~ Adolf Hitler, 1933

All in all, I rate your post 10/10, definitely not a leftist or jew. Keep up the good work, fellow Aryan Nazi racist.
>>10072
>Rupert Murdoch is Irish.
Sure, just like Soros is Hungarian
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>>10119
Technically anyone could be a crypto-Jew. But if you have to assume that about all the elites who aren't obviously Jewish, then your ideology is unfalsifiable, and therefore closer to a religion than anything practical.
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>>10121
Murdoch is married to a jew and most of his top level underlings are jews. If Irish people are so powerful, where are they? Why can't Murdoch just hire an all Irish staff instead of the jewish one?
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>>10012 (OP) 
He had no reason to tell you the truth. Cops always lie in an attempt to scare you. One time I called a hotline to complain about police helicopter noise and they told me there was a serial killer outside my apartment. It was completely made up.
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>>10552
>having the gall to call the cops to tell them their chopper is too loud
Jackass vs jackass lol.
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>>10012 (OP) 
I find it ironic how rigorous the process of getting security clearance is when all these federal agencies are run by literal child-fucking drug dealers. Intelligence only wants to hire dumb goyslaves, not outside-the-box thinkers who might threaten their power. I understand why they like Indians so much now. Just clever enough to do low-level tech work with no higher aspirations or values to speak of, only money.

It's no wonder America is constantly getting hacked by Jews, Russians, and Chinese. Anyone interested in studying cyber is going to be a bit weird, but the feebs don't even want to hire people who've used drugs lol. I imagine all these agencies are suffering a competence crisis for the same reason as the military. All the competent, patriotic white guys either hate the government or got psyopped into hating themselves and self-destructing through drugs / radical politics

I'm sorry I ever suggested that the system could be reformed from the inside. No matter what Trump does, America will always be evil and anti-white. Always has been! Just look at Shay's Rebellion

I guess there's nothing for me to do but become a journalist and content creator, even if it feels like a waste of my talents. Gods willing this regime will cannibalize itself and we'll be waiting in the eaves to replace it with something better
Israel's chief cybersecurity official just got arrested trying to rape kids in Vegas lol. Of course Zion Don let him flee back home with no consequences. These are the people polygraphing you for a government job and turning you away because you took a puff off a spliff

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/16/nevada-arrest-israeli-official
>>10591
These are also the same "people" taking your data including fingerprints and face withour your knowledge or consent to judge whether you're allowed to travel by plane.
>>10123
STOP RUINING THE DEFLECTING ANTI-IRISH SPIN!!!!!!!!!!
>>10014
Illegal activity on social media is only ever there because someone in Fed already knows and allows for or actively participates in it. It's the reason you still hear about serial killers. 

Successful insurgency networks are where? Africa, South America, Middle East, SEA...places that lack the infrastructure, funding, population, training, etc to uproot said insurgencies. Asymmetric action in Afghanistan only slowed down when the NSA handed DOD millions of plastic lawn rocks filled with cheap cell motherboards and microphones and dumped them EVERYWHERE. 

We're it up to me at this point, I'd drop the French a few billion and take over Kerguelen island. Bring server farms, oldfags, a shitton of /tg/ stuff and watch the rest of the world tear itself apart.
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>>10552
I stated that he could have been lying.
However, if even half of it were true, the police state will wreck a terrible toll upon the first wave of pro-White insurgents. 
I calculated a while ago that we should expect to suffer 38,000 casualties if...' 'if' we performed at the same high functioning, dispassionate, and focused level that the PIRA did. If we are capable of focusing on meaningful targets and if our loudmouth LARPers don't announce that they're insurgents at every bar, we would inflict 100,000 casualties upon the enemy security forces before we were in a position to seize territory for ourselves.
THEN we would need to either negotiate a ceasefire akin to the ending of the book The Brigade, or intensify the war to a conventional civil war and probably suffer a further 100,000 casualties.

However, if the police state is as bad as the fed depicted it in his braggadocios conversation, we may face far higher initial casualty rates. Perhaps 50,000 or more.
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>>10926
>Asymmetric action in Afghanistan only slowed down when the NSA handed DOD millions of plastic lawn rocks filled with cheap cell motherboards and microphones and dumped them EVERYWHERE.
What? I mean... WHAT?
>>10937
Which makes me wonder how engaged can a political manifesto be for a hardcore party. The harder we would sound, the more obvious it would be that we're ready for a fight. That said looking back at Germany and Italy with the right conditions it's possible to seize power with less damage but that's only if the police forces and the heavier hitting squads are not used as it happens a lot in our modern times. This can only be mitigated if they're partially infiltrated by /ourguys/.
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>>10943
I mean, Hitler and Mussolini seized power due to mass political mobilization and organization. Hitler tried rebellion and got swatted down. So he changed tactics and won power democratically. Even Mussolini was given power after what amounted to a mass protest.
Franco is really the only Fascist to seize power through purely violent means. Ironically, it led to him being the most passive Fascist.
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>>11062
It's not the opinion of liberals that matters. Liberals are our enemy. The optics that matter are how we appear to normal White people who would join us. As you said, we need alliances not division. Currently, White people are divided. We need to unite against the enemy trying to exterminate us.
Liberals are for the most part already enemy soldiers. But all White people who aren't liberals are potential White nationalists.
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>>11077
>The optics that matter are how we appear to normal White people who would join us. 
>But all White people who aren't liberals are potential White nationalists.
You never get tired of peddling this bullshit that has been dismantled time and time again. Fuck off.
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>>11079
It's never been dismantled once.
Dr. Pierce agreed with me and the Organization in his novel actively worked to win over the hearts and minds of White people in general.

>>11083
>normal white people aren't interested in what any of us have to peddle. 
I am aware. This is a major problem which, until we overcome it, we will be unable to engage in violence successfully.
>Rabid liberals want to tear down systems too.
Not really.
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>>11088
>It's never been dismantled once.
Gradually, I began to hate you.
>>10937
Although I'm still on the fence regarding this OP, a lot of what it says should be considered seriously. But this police state owes a lot to its electronic network, its data-centers and the power grid to make the whole of it run. You got to understand that these would be valid targets in the insurgency and they would add a lot of chaos. The more the better. The main issue with our talks is the disparity between one side's forces and the other's. Any case we can think of is always just a bunch of people, very few, against a whole nation's forces (police, surveillance, army, etc.). This begs for being balanced by brute force.
However none of this will happen anytime soon because the democratic model remains well supported by masses of retards. For the US alone when was the last time a candidate, either aiming to become a governor or a president, said that he'd get to the truth regarding 9/11, the War on Terror, the source of immigration, the massive bailouts, the Covid and more? People are rushed from crisis to crisis and they seem to accept it and renew their trust in institutions that they'd rather support as long as possible rather than topple them. They will never be revolutionaries and the only way to entertain a revolution would be to have a powerful network with lots of cash to sustain it. We have none of that. Nothing at all. Not even secret orders that could produce gold out of their magical hands. There are days I wonder if at least we could get some army guys on our side, a few generals. Few being the word. Most of them, active or not, are complete conservative morons who would rather salute the flag and follow orders than take any real risk. We have proto-leaders, truly nothing more than glorified club organizers who seem to be totally ignored by any kind providence, no matter their efforts. If we stick to a logical analysis, we should easily settle on a common conclusion: anything short of a collapse will never grant us any chance of at least making this horrible monster of a system bleed once. Yet this collapse is just wishful thinking. The alternative? Be illogical. Try anything stupid until something works. But how can that even lead to success?

>>11037
>Franco is really the only Fascist to seize power through purely violent means. Ironically, it led to him being the most passive Fascist.
A fascist he wasn't anyway.

>>11061
What do you expect this new Hitler to do? How? Where would he appear and how could he hope get some support? I don't even see a tenth of the preliminary conditions he depended upon being available to us today.
Perhaps if someone had some balls in Eastern Germany, something could happen? Politicians are getting assassinated over there. Some German leader should be forging alliances and already build a paramilitary force of some kind and be ready to face off with Western Germany, the other half that remains largely cucked. Where are the neuSA?
I mean if I were German that's where I would start, even if the country is still full of foreign troops kept there to make use nothing funny and silly were to ever happen again in that country.
If not Germany then where else? Wouldn't it require to happen in a rather powerful enough country, to have enough critical mass to trigger something? I don't buy it.
More importantly, how would that man avoid being caught, arrested or killed? Leftists, MKUltra plants and Mossad have almost free rein to do whatever they want. What do you expect that man to be able to do exactly? Are politics still necessary?
And please don't pull some crazy Serrano rabbit out of your hat, I'm not in the mood for this sort of rubbish.

>>11079
The eternal issue of needing to please the masses to obtain some form of power from them, a legitimacy of sorts so that a good portion of them would be willing to fight and die for you. Lemmings are effectively manipulated through emotions. But here and elsewhere, we use talks, memes, data and statistical and historical documents as the source of our convictions. Yet the lemmings will never care about all of this, it's food for the elite. Whether Pierce liked it or not, we need a decent quantity or people on our side. We need people.

>>11090
The Brigade is far more coherent and believable. It's also damn grim in its own way.
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>>11088
I've dismantled you fifty times alone. keep this anti-extremism shit in the thread where it belongs the topic in this thread is Federal overreach and spying, not your derad shittery.
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>>11094
The brigade is no better than Turner diaries on it's accuracy and it is also  by default Liberal because it portrays us allowing our women to fight in war and even be scientists, which no just no
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>>10012 (OP) 
Lol glowniggers are so stupid i swear. If you take rudimentary precautions from the start there is nothing they can do except try to make you fear them with bullshit posts like these and you won't get on the radar unless you're doing dumb shit like shitposting on your work account, using same nicks and not even using a proxy  and basedposting when jews tell you to "turn it off"

For every big shot on their watchlist there is about 1000 shitposters that waste their time by joking online. Even with ai its impossible to determine anything of value. Even if they make some statistical inference models it's hopeless for glowies. Thats why they come to plead and screech at tocharian hat weaving clubs like this with "noooo you cant say that" and "what about (insert nonsense)"

That's not to say you shouldn't prepare to make them suffer if they decide to come for you one day. Their families too.
>>11123
Spoiler time then, the exchange to follow might contain fragments of the plot written in The Brigade.

How many women were shown doing real fighting in comparison to the quantity of men heavily engaged in battle? Weren't the conditions also very desperate? Having some women doing some spying and carrying guns is not only perfectly acceptable but should be mandatory because we want our women to be able to defend themselves when men are not around, and the world depicted in the book is highly hostile.

If you want a different kind of narrative context then check KD Rebel where Lane perhaps entertains a different type of wartime fetish. The end is definitely rushed but you can't blame him for this. Know that he actually had in mind to pen a prequel story about Trebor.
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>>11122
Cite one example of you actually refuting a single thing I've stated.
Real revolutionaries don't roleplay online. They attack the system in every way they can, that includes nonviolent methods. You not only eschew effective nonviolent methods, but also eschew the violence you like to roleplay about, since you don't do anything IRL. 
In fact, your greatest contribution to our cause is a nonviolent one, you made this board. Your actions so far not only prove my point, but refute the position you lie about holding.
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>>11123
Unfortunately, when the time does come for violence, women will make better ied delivery men than men due to the lower level of scrutiny given towards women. You can get angry at me, but you cannot refute the point.
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>>11094
We don't have the manpower to waste men being illogical. 
It would have been better if the Tops shooter used his passion to form a political agitation group to pressure the local government to implement laws that piss off liberals, the objective being to convince them to leave the area. Or, failing this, to physically harass them until they leave. Once an area is cleansed of liberals, local organizations can pressure conservatives to move further White on issues.
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>>11145
>>11146
>>11147
Woah settle down agent niggerstein
>>11145
>>11145
I have done so so many times that i got sick of navigating five different threads on the same subjects all made by you, and combined them Into the Derad thread, the problem with you is that you do not respond to any assertion that challenges your viewpoints, no matter how eloquently I phrase it or how detailed I am in refuting you, often directly addressing and ripping apart the underlying assumptions upon which you build your house of idiocy, you simply ignore it, and continue to assert the same failed tactics and ideas that have stagnated and left the movement dead for 70 years as it bleeds men, because the fucking idiots like you can neither keep the people in your organizations ideologically or physically pure nor can you think beyond how to get those pesky normalfaggots on our side, constantly spewing the most inane bullshit about optics, about how the Overton window has some how moved and we can build our movement now!! Next thing you'll be saying we should use the momentum in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder to recruit his putrid deracinated milquetoast peace-loving christcuck followers into the movement.
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>>11138
Our women should never be used as spies and should never be anywhere near combat unless we have so utterly failed, and i don't want fictional stories, just pointing out It's hardly better than Turner Diaries and that's only as bad as it is because it's 40 years out of date.
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>>11146
Why would I waste my time and the lives of valuable baby factories with a tactic that hasn't done a fucking thing for those who use it?
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>>11150
>Our women should never be used as spies
j/k
>>11149
>I have done so so many times that I cannot cite even one.

>the Derad thread
You are the derad anon though. I offer solutions while you are trying to keep White men passive and only letting off meaningless roleplay steam online.

>you do not respond to any assertion that challenges your viewpoints
I responded to and refuted all the weak non-arguments you have leveled.

>no matter how eloquently I phrase it 
You never eloquently phrased a single argument. 
Your position is that we should keep mouthing off like children online. Mine is that this is childish and achieved nothing in the past 70 years. Let's try engaging with the real world instead.

> the same failed tactics and ideas that have stagnated and left the movement dead for 70 years 
You've been mouthing off your insincere calls for violence that you never actually do for 70 years. Let's try actually engaging with the real world instead of insincere roleplay.

> idiots like you can neither keep the people in your organizations ideologically or physically pure nor can you think beyond how to get those pesky normalfaggots on our side
The first assertion is a vague one of low substance. Ideologically pure means different things to different people. What matters is achieving real world gain, not roleplaying online.
The second assertion is naive. Ultimately, we will need at least 30% of White people to support us in order to achieve any success through violence. A tiny sliver of a percentage of Whites will never succeed in a war of attrition against the most powerful military machine in human history. 

>>11151
>using VBIEDs is not an effective tactic for those who have used it
What world do you live in? VBIEDs are the most effective method of destroying enemy installations for insurgents.
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>>11186
>>11149
And don't bullshit me by claiming that your position is that you want to engage in real violence rather than pretending online. Because if that were your actual position, you'd be doing it now. 
The very fact that you're here proves that all your calls for violence are dishonest. You want me to do it for you and no one here is stupid enough to fall for it, especially you.
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>>11187
Why aren't you somewhere else bawling your eyes out about the charlie kirk faggots then if that's a supposed problem? you fucking little shit
Have you considered the possiblity that nothing happens yet because the higher powers haven't decided that the time has come, no matter how shitty and desperate our situation seems, even if it's probably just a matter of years now?
Plot twist: AI is just underpaid interns or pajeets slaving away at a keyboard.
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