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>>325389 (OP) 
>So instead I think Europe will be split into different micro states that have different policies, some will be white nationalists and seclude themselves into white only communities, some will be half white half ethnic, some a mix of everything, some mainly muslims.. etc.
Balkanization always results in bloodshed, especially when islam gets involved, considering they believe it to basically be necessary to kill infidels. They're not going to sit idly by and look at the White states from a distance, they're going to mount attacks.

>>325391
This, they will be compelled by their ethnocentrism to try to kill, enslave, or absorb different ethnic groups because they are competing for resources.
It will be like the 8th to 11th and 14th to 17th centuries, except this time, hopefully, whites will come to the conclusion to and have the technology to exterminate them

I don't want to hear anything about White people or the West from anyone unless they're employed, in education, reproductive or otherwise engaged in anything besides sitting around all day.

>>325412
Kind of a stupid criterion, don't you think? I've done better research and posting of niche topics than professionals while doing manual labor jobs which had nothing to do with my qualifications nor any impact on the quality of said publications. Likewise, I wouldn't look down on some disabled anon on welfare at his computer all day if his work was good or his donation money was green.

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>>325412
I'm a apprentice plumber that is hoping to be trained on a plasma pipe cutter so I don't have to do plumbing, have an Associates in Computer Sciences, work on ai porn in my off time.

>>325419
>work on ai porn in my off time
Do you make money from this? If so, how on earth are you managing to beat the competition?

>>325418
>Kind of a stupid criterion, don't you think?
No and you're conflating what I said exclusively with institution credentials when that wasn't the implied point. The implied point is that I think we're all at least reasonably tired of layabouts on the internet offering their social commentary on matter they're largely not participant in, right? 

>>325419
In that case and if you're OP, I apologize and appreciate your work on both accounts. I accept your commentary as valid.

>>325434
>The implied point is that I think we're all at least reasonably tired of layabouts on the internet offering their social commentary on matter they're largely not participant in, right? 
Fair enough. 

I do, however, sympathize a bit with them, given the brazen and institutional mechanisms in action preventing most White men from finding work which isn't meaningless demeaning slave labor that doesn't pay. There's that one news article we've all seen, which proudly said 93% of all new hires total that year were non-White and you just know the 7% were jews labeled as White. I only remember a time from my childhood and adolescence when buying a house was a normal expected thing, etc.; I already want out of this shit myself, despite doing plenty of participating.

>>325431
I don't, I just haven't been able to find shit to my taste.
>>325434
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>>325412
>>325434
>>325431 
Everyone is an active participant in this whether you like it or not. And the way society is going it's not hard to tell it's the losers, incompetents, cowards and scum of the earth that are promoted and regarded as most successful right now. So your idiotic belief system there is definitely not correct.

If you want people to flex wealth and shit on imageboards you are in the wrong place. That is not what this place is about you filthy normalfag. Go back to the hell you came from.

>>325435
There's a difference between laying about and being actively oppressed, a lot of the people I'm talking about are in the former. 

>There's that one news article we've all seen, which proudly said 93% of all new hires total that year were non-White and you just know the 7% were jews labeled as White.
In what country? That does track demographically since immigration is continuing and we're an aging population. 

>>325439
>Everyone is an active participant in this whether you like it or not. 
No, I don't recognize layabouts as being active participants. They experience the situation, but they don't really participate meaningfully in it. 

>If you want people to flex wealth and shit on imageboards you are in the wrong place.
I said employment, education and reproduction. That's not a focus on wealth. Stop being dishonest just to stretch a point. The focus is on productive accumulation. Having a job, learning something that can apply productively and having kids are all beneficial to us, being a layabout is not.

>>325442
How does me being a wagie and working in and paying taxes to a society that the antithesis of white genetic interests helping us?
I work because it is better then being homeless and digging through the trash for something to eat, not because I want to work.

>>325442
I don't know, I can completely understand giving up. How much hardship do you expect those unlucky souls to go though just to experience one tenth of what was taken for granted a few decades ago?

>>325446
Well, you can afford a place over your head, which helps you individually. Would you rather we be all homeless and destitute? It also helps because the more monetary power we have, the more we can use it. We can use it for establishing our own businesses, creating our own infrastructure, using it for influence and so on. Money is just a tool and the more of you have of it to finance your cause. Also, plumbing is actually a valuable occupation and if we can increase our presence in skilled fields, that also helps us. A WN biochemist has more influence than a WN landscaper. 

>>325448
IDK, but life is a struggle. It seems some people have been bred so weak that they've come to expect comfort due to their fragile characters. I fortunately am not one of those people. The harder things get, the harder I want to fight.

>>325449
>people have been bred so weak that they've come to expect comfort
I don't like that people have become that either, but I cannot bring myself to moralize about how everyone should work hard in/for a society that hates them to their core.

>>325450
I can. We need money and people who are upwardly mobile or engaged in some kind of productive enterprise, whether that's owning a little organic farm or designing robots (which helps deter immigration). Remember when a lot of people chipped in to help Shiloh? That's because they had money to do so. It'd be good if we all had that capability for financial mutual support. I hate the system, too, but it's less about moralizing and more about practicality. I don't like the job I work at, nor do I like the government I pay taxes to, but I have to survive and finance my own individual power growth and if I come to have enough to share with those that are deserving, I fully plan on it.

>>325449
I would rather be dead and not have work but am too pussy to kill self, or have geneticlly engineered slaves to do all the work
I guess I understand where you're coming from, a person that can't take care of themselves claiming the virtues of group orientation is selfish in a very nasty way, especially along racial lines because you're wanting to be a burden on your kin.

>>325450
Some wild tropes reminiscent of bullshit moral preaches that selfish unhelpful boomers that everyone is waiting for to die or are now getting abused by niggers in elderly care homes used to talk about to their poor and poorer kids.

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>>325452
You mix some good with bad until it sounds convenient and fits your narrative. I dont want to be too rude but most of this narrative of yours is just naive and unrealistic tropes because mathematically it doesn't work out, practically most of it doesn't work out. Or else a lot of people would actually be doing this naturally. The only people that are able to do this are not even who you think. Mostly because the system is NOT designed that way, it's a trap and a skinner box is intentionally designed to keep us down. 

By the time you've gained enough shiny system credits to set this up suddenly you're too old to even reproduce properly. Along the way of this careerism you will be competing with non whites and white childless retards that absolutely will sacrifice their progeny for a pay raise so you can forget about this social career climbing shit unless you can show you have 5 patents and 1 unique company or some absolutely unique connections to help you along the way that nobody has. 

Nobody civilized can have a ton of kids with one paycheck, and nobody at home with both having to go to work. Harder it is finding someone to do more than 2 kids with, also for this reason. Is it possible to do? Yes but very hard. Much harder than it ever was before.

Nobody is rallying the oppressed poor people wagies at work where you could be fired if you disagree. In a high position job like you are talking about you absolutely WILL get fired if some jealous person spreads a rumor about how you disagree with the narratives of the day somewhere. The "workers" revolution is a complete myth. Get a reality check.

>>325454
Did you mean to reply to >>325452 because I don't understand the context of your comments if so
>Nobody civilized can have a ton of kids with one paycheck, and nobody at home with both having to go to work. Harder it is finding someone to do more than 2 kids with, also for this reason. Is it possible to do? Yes but very hard. Much harder than it ever was before.
Lol, give it a decade or two, the only people around will have traits that force them to want have as many offspring as they can, their circumstances will not be a factor.

>>325455 
Some of you normie pseuds that surfed on in here are not living in the now, you are not living the fucking to-day. Quit being so fucking naive and stupid.

You absolutely need a fucking reality check or you can be retarded and ignore that and grow up suddenly realize your actual life choices the real life opportunities that mattered were left behind. And how you've been fucking cheated. That is something more painful than all the status and money you could ever conjure up in your entire life. 

Better life? More money? Children? EVERYTHING IS A CHOICE nowadays. You cannot choose all. You just dont surf in and make it work like before, nothing fucking works you retard. Do the things that actually fucking matters.

>>325456
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Lmao we can't do nothing that don't matter
If you're saying I should try to have offspring, no, I'm poor, so my descendants will probably be poor, and be subject to the elite trying to make a brown interchangeable economic unit unrace, and id rather have no possibility of contributing to that.

>>325457
Sorry. My reply was intended for >>325451

But on the poor part, I personally think it doesn't matter, a lot of people are poor in this economy. There's almost no middle class left. Just a bunch of fakes with a shitton of jew debt.

If the reports are real(they are most likely real) that most Americans do not even have 500 dollars or less in their life savings or account in cash at the end of the month or at any time of the year everyone is literally poor and LARPing as something else. Because it sure seems like it.

>>325452
>I would rather be dead and not have work but am too pussy to kill self, or have geneticlly engineered slaves to do all the work
I'm genuinely sorry to hear that and I hope it changes for you someday. 

>>325454
>You mix some good with bad until it sounds convenient and fits your narrative. I dont want to be too rude but most of this narrative of yours is just naive and unrealistic tropes because mathematically it doesn't work out, practically most of it doesn't work out. 
I don't think it's unrealistic or naive at all. What's your alternative? Be bums or wage a brief, impotent act of revolt and be killed off and laughed at for the rest of history? FYI, revolts are another thing that require financing. They don't happen for free, not that I'm advocating anything illegal, just stating an economic truth. 

>By the time you've gained enough shiny system credits to set this up suddenly you're too old to even reproduce properly.
I'm in my early 30s and still in school. I haven't remotely gave up on the idea of having kids. I still want them, even if I start having them in my late 30s. My mother was 36 when she had me. 

>Along the way of this careerism you will be competing with non whites and white childless retards that absolutely will sacrifice their progeny for a pay raise so you can forget about this social career climbing shit 
It depends on what field you're in. You're not going to be competing that much if you're a biochemist, nuclear engineer or so on and so forth. Those fields are in-demand. Even our plumber guy's prospects are good because that's a useful trade. 

>Nobody civilized can have a ton of kids with one paycheck, and nobody at home with both having to go to work. Harder it is finding someone to do more than 2 kids with, also for this reason. Is it possible to do? Yes but very hard. Much harder than it ever was before.
That's why you do the best you can. If your situation only permits two, then have two. If you have a wife who's body can only have one child, then have one. Again, what is your alternative? Live on the streets and be impotent? Shall we become the new gypsies? 

>Nobody is rallying the oppressed poor people wagies at work where you could be fired if you disagree. In a high position job like you are talking about you absolutely WILL get fired if some jealous person spreads a rumor about how you disagree with the narratives of the day somewhere. 
Of course, and that's why you have a brain in your head. You use your brain to discern when to speak your mind and when to keep your mouth shut. Regardless, I'm not interested in convincing you of anything. I'm on my path and you're on yours.

>>325458
>I personally think it doesn't matter
I would be fine with just being poor, but being poor means you have less freedom of movement and when the south Africa event happens they probably won't be able to afford private protection, and I find the possibility of me contributing to the mystery meat of the future.disgusting enough to make sure it isn't a possibility.

>>325461
>I'm in my early 30s and still in school.
>I haven't remotely gave up on the idea of having kids
>That's why you do the best you can.
You poor fuck, I'll give you 3 years after graduation to understand why everyone else is hopeless. It will hit you like a ton of bricks.

>>325459
Lol, I believe it. A journeymen plumber I know has less money then me, I make 45% of what he does, and I'm able to save half my check, dept, drugs, and women will fuck you

>>325461
30s is when dating starts getting rough so you better start now.

>>325464
Yeah that explains way too much about this conversation.

>>325465
Most normalfags are retarded and intentionally live so that they have $0 after their bills are paid. To them, each dollar not spent debtmaxxing on credit cards and loans for stupid toys is a dollar wasted.

>>325464
The reason I'm my age and just getting going is because I've already cleared significant hurdles. I'm not intimidated by life. It will continue to challenge me and I will react accordingly. 

>>325466
>30s is when dating starts getting rough so you better start now.
Nope, I'm not interested in dating right now. Maybe in 2028, but the next year and a half is for me. I'll start dating again when I'm ready.

>>325461
>I'm genuinely sorry to hear that and I hope it changes for you someday. 
Ill always want slaves, castrated, with brain implants that make their will mine, it would be great
Id have lobotomized women pregnant with 10 more slaves at a time, engineered and designed genomes, make so much money.

>>325469
Mmm, I've always wanted a robot GF/BF (to raise my human kids with, lol), but ironically, I'd want it to have agency. I wouldn't anyone that didn't willingly choose to be with me. That said, I know some wealthy guys use their money to have a lot of kids, so maybe you could have that compromise some day.

>>325463
Im firm on the belief that raising your kids right will prevent them from becoming mutts raising them as critical actual people and less like stupid kids. And then its them throwing it away not you the part is blameless will be out of our responsibility. Should also have more than one so one will get it and shame the other.

>>325471
Bro, they'll kill the men and force the woman to marry the niggers.
>>325470
>that didn't willingly choose to be with me
Oh how very white of you, too bad woman want to be raped. A woman crying and moaning at the same time is the most erotic thing ever.

>>325473
>too bad woman want to be raped
This meme again? That's true for probably a minority of women, but not all or even a majority. I think you just have a power fantasy, anon. 

>A woman crying and moaning at the same time is the most erotic thing ever.
Women crying annoys me. I also can't understand the other side of the coin, femdom. I can't take femdom seriously. 

I just want a partner. I don't want a dependent that has to be managed.

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>OP presents an interesting worldview, good opportunity to discuss where we see the future of mankind
<useless wagie niggerfaggot derails with how proud he is to lap up Massa's sperm from his dog bowl
Law Enforcement literally creates those layabouts you so undeservedly loathe, Anon. They spend billions in tax dollars every year to harass and undermine those on their shit list, trying to drive them into the street or the poor house, to try and force people into using their also tax-suckung "Programs" to justify more funding to "combat" "poverty." All the while paying their proxies –typically parolees, junkies, coerced retirees, and literal serial killers–fron public coffers and drug money to do the leg work. Saying that someone is "undeserving" of an opinion because they're not ((( You ))) is utterly psychotic. 
>t. Involuntary "Layabout"

OP, if you're still here, I like your projection but I'm not sure I see things "diffusing" like you say. Much of the evidence points to an all encompassing State regardless of ethnic or religious identifiers, and many actors implementing the change see whites and near-whites as a roadblock to that State. That said, they're already de facto partitioning the US into "zones" to enforce this. I'm thinking the relevant regiions may be larger that in your estimation.
>UK, France, Germany btfo
Unfortunately. I could also see part of the larger gameplan to allow for invasive groups to fight over their new territories as that would a) lower overall population, b) destroy much of what whites had built (as collateral damage or as a screen for deliberate destruction) and c) potentially force the "inheritors" to call upon larger States for aid in rebuilding.

>>325474
>think you just have a power fantasy, anon. 
I just have to have total control to feel comfortable
Moaning and crying isn't the same as just a cry. It all she do while you do whatever you want, and the breaks in her cry into moaning is like encouraging, idk, something primal about it

>>325477
>I just have to have total control to feel comfortable
This reads like textbook insecurity, but I'm sure you know that. 

>Moaning and crying isn't the same as just a cry. It all she do while you do whatever you want, and the breaks in her cry into moaning is like encouraging, idk, something primal about it
IDK about primal....sounds weirdly human and emotional to me. How do you feel about bondage? Are you one of those guys that wants to tie her up?

>>325389 (OP) 
>remigration project
Nobody wish this, what everybody wants is culling and cleansing.

>>325491
Lots of people who thinks life is sacred or some crap, so killing is out of the question. Christcucks and such.

>>325495
Ofcourse

>>325478
>This reads like textbook insecurity
What do you think is the driving force of male sexuality.
>Are you one of those guys that wants to tie her up?
I want to hit her so hard that she can't get back up.

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>>325468
NTA, but I think you have the right idea.
I'm an OLDFAG,(no homo) that has never once played the "Dating Game" yet has had multiple LTRs, and my share of...well, Women for the most part.
While it's true that "Shopping around" in the dating pool today is about as treacherous as wading through piranha infested waters, and Divorce RAPE has become normalized and even State sanctioned, we live in an OCCUPIED State; most all of the West does.
Until that changes, the best way forward is to position yourself into your OWN business, and support your OWN people and communities.
You cannot build a house by yourself, but 3 can. I have done it many times. raise those numbers even higher, and you will get efficiency in production, and a collecting of contacts, connections and a diversity of skills and abilities.
THAT is what any Anon should be focused on. 
>building up your own skills, wealth(not just $$$) and tools for execution of those skills
>Building up like minded and White positive communities with as much of a range of skills and abilities as possible
>starting small White positive businesses, that support Whites MOAR than other races
>networking those groups, communities and businesses across countries--QUIETLY
While I'll admit, this will require quite a bit of IRL interaction, and TIME to be assured that you aren't just being infiltrated, or even worse; Grifted by your own, there are LOTS of possibilities to bring together all levels of skill and intelligence for this, and it could, if carefully tended, have a snowballing effect that only benefits White men, women and Families in the long run.
No need for Para-Militarized, easily attacked groups, But without building numbers of interconnected Whites in ALL aspects of building and maintaining Western civilization,(Not the Kiked model either,) We will fare no better than any other White nation that was eventually taken over by Nons and  now that you've been "County-Jacked" the only use they'll have for you is...?

>>325389 (OP) 
>Islam promotes a different lifestyle away from alcohol, pork, adultery, so they will never integrate
That's silly. Islam is a dying religion. Muslims who immigrate to the west quickly become apostates.

>>325536
Dumbest post in this thread.
>Muslims who immigrate to the west quickly become apostates.
Apostasy is punishable by death in islamic law. It's the reason why they have you recite the shahada to a number of muslim witnesses; they become responsible to keep you within islam and to report on you if you leave islam.

>>325538
You're naive and take internet memes too seriously.

>Apostasy is punishable by death in islamic law
Yeah. So why aren't they killing the apostates? 
While many Muslim immigrants remain Muslim, each new generation produces apostasy at greater rates for the same reason that Christianity is dying. There's no realistic way to kill apostates in a Western state since there are no standards, let alone Islamic ones.
American "muslims" are being raised by iPads and grow up to drink, skip prayer, and even eat haram foods at greater percentage each year.

>>325544
>There's no realistic way to kill apostates in a Western state since there are no standards
That is because the west is retarded and will prevent them from doing so.

>>325513
>What do you think is the driving force of male sexuality.
The chemicals in your head that make you desire sex because it's associated with dopamine, not insecurity. 

>I want to hit her so hard that she can't get back up.
Why so hateful and sadistic? That's a genuine question. 

>>325514
It's just common sense. You could ask niggers if more money is more or less beneficial to the nigger cause and they'll tell you more because they at least have that much grasp of reality. What makes the world go round? Money. What makes collectivization possible? Networking and collaboration. Anybody who doesn't recognize these basic realities is not cognitively capable of anything useful. It's like questioning if you really need food to eat and water to drink.

>>325544
>American "muslims" are being raised by iPads and grow up to drink, skip prayer, and even eat haram foods at greater percentage each year.
During my brief time in college, there was an Afghan rapefugee (like 19 years old, fresh off the boat, pidgin English) who came to lecture every day smelling like weed and stared at porn on his phone. Once overheard some guy call him "Talibong" and almost spit my drink on the desk.

>>325580
>The chemicals in your head that make you desire sex
most of society is men getting assurances that they won't be cucked if they invest in a family with a woman and have offspring with her, that is due to male insecurity, it is big part of male psychology because being tricked into investing into offspring that isn't his selects for men that are paranoid about it
>Why so hateful and sadistic? 
I see mockery in every gesture and expression of women. I also just get off on women crying, I learnt this about myself when the coal burners from my old job cried upon failing to make me not racist with this run through hole.

>>325536
>Islam is a dying religion
>the extremists are the ones having the most children
>religious attitudes are hereditary
lel, just keep repeating it bro

>>325587
>most of society
Has nothing to do with society. All of that is your post-hoc rationalization filtered through your own subjective worldview. People like sex for the same reason the rest of the animal kingdom likes sex, because nerves are in the associated organs and fire off dopamine when stimulated. Love is just an advanced extension of that basis and everything involved in it. 

>I see mockery in every gesture and expression of women. I also just get off on women crying
But why? Have you always hated them since you were young? Do you have "mommy issues"?

>>325590
>Has nothing to do with society
>the evolutionary context of those nerves has nothing to do with society and the underlining reason why people deal with each other
m'kay
>But why?
it is their nature, women see men as a resource, that is fine but it does make me not view them in a good light. so i'm already not at the disposition most men have for women however when a coal burner with a niglet looks at me and smiles, i get angry, and the anger makes me enjoy the suffering of others, and there were so fucking many indignant whores at my old job that it made me kinda start projecting that onto all women, so now I just kinda what to take a newborn from it's mother and crush it's head with my hands while she watches

>>325597
>the evolutionary context of those nerves has nothing to do with society and the underlining reason why people deal with each other
The nerves predate the society and that doesn't offer any explanation about insecurity being a motivating factor at the biological level. It's a psychological factor for you, but it's not a universal factor for humans. 

>it is their nature, women see men as a resource
That's how most humans operate, men or women. Ironically, you're guilty of the same thing, wanting someone as essentially a sex slave. 

>i get angry, and the anger makes me enjoy the suffering of others, and there were so fucking many indignant whores at my old job that it made me kinda start projecting that onto all women, so now I just kinda what to take a newborn from it's mother and crush it's head with my hands while she watches
So you have anger issues. Anger issues are understandable, but you're creating a double-standard when the transactional nature of most relationships are not unique to either sex. I'll reserve my most critical judgement less for your emotional issues and more for your lack of objectivity. Anyway, as someone who's also dealt with deep, corrosive anger, just know that it will always control you if you continue to let it. You talk of wanting a slave, but you are a slave to it. That's how anger works when it consumes you.

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>>325604
>The nerves predate the society
the nerves evolved to make society what it is
>That's how most humans operate, men or women.
men go about it differently, and I didn't say anything about how men view shit
>wanting someone as essentially a sex slave
depending on my mood it is either a brain dead woman that I use as an incubator, or a gene edited novel organism that is anthro cute, has a physiology that secretes addictive substances and is compelled by their biology be in love with me
>you're creating a double-standard when the transactional nature of most relationships are not unique to either sex
no, the thing that makes me angry is the fact that the coal burner thought she could get me to invest in her niglet. a normal woman that thinks that she could get a dinner out of me or help her pay rent i view with indifference. It was literally that job that exposed to me all those coal burners that made me paranoid, and intensified an innate fetish for seeing women in distress
>You talk of wanting a slave, but you are a slave to it. That's how anger works when it consumes you.
lol, we are all God's slaves

>>325588
>>the extremists are the ones having the most children
How's that working out for Christianity?
As anons have pointed out, Muslim immigrants are frequently degenerates who would have been executed in their home countries.
The children of immigrants conform to their degenerate surroundings.

Islam is just a very weak religion and without strong barriers to apostasy, most of its adherents will leave it.
Also, even in the middle east, most Muslims are atheists. You can prove this by looking at footage of Muslims in dangerous situations. Do they stand stoically, seeking death as they claim they want? No. They run, hide, or surrender. They want to live. They don't actually believe in any of this bullshit.

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>>325587
but if you don't buy a lot of stuff? if you don't? what are you then i ask? what?