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FPS games are dead.
>New cheat is out
>AI that uses screen capture, then uses your mouse normally
>Can work as aimbot, aim assist, or whatever, can be fine tuned to look more human
>Doesn't modify game files and can easily avoid tricks modern anti-cheats use
>Actually doesn't show up in the computer at all. All the files are kept in a small device that the computer sees as a random mouse.
>Could realistically be used by a streamer since its so subtle
>Currently being nuked from orbit by Activision and others
>Only downside is that it requires around two hundred american dollars to get a capture card and the mouse device
revk5r5vqxA , get a invidious stance to show it because the quality is pretty garbage.
What do you say, anon?
Good. Developers ruin their own games, spy on your computer, and take fat ogre shits on your performance to catch cheaters. If this catches on, it could ruin this entire farce and force the tards to stop taking this shit so seriously.
If it's indistinguishable from another player all it will do is make more top-tier players. That's a problem in a game with matchmaking or whatever but not in one with community servers where you could just go play on a non-competitive one. Actually in general hacking is far less of an issue when you have community run dedicated servers given that they can handle adminfaggotry themselves and if someone goes on a power trip they kill their own community.
>given that they can handle adminfaggotry themselves
What are they gonna do, ban anyone that aims too well? Accept aimbots as part of the ecosystem?
>it can learn what the enemy looks like better than a human
does that mean that going prone and standing still so that the outline is hard to make out would defeat it?
No correlation between the quote and your comment.
As for the question in itself though, maybe. But then you're just going back to camping and being ineffectual.
camping is the meta in any fps
I don't really care
modern multiplayer FPS are a blight on gaming, anything that kills it is good in my eyes.
If there's one thing I learned while playing /v/ Wurm servers is that accepting cheaters as a normal part of the experience goes really well with everyone.
Would it really make that much of a difference for games with a tiny TTK, low movement speed and a relatively low skill ceiling that is what I assume most modern FPS multiplayer games are?
>Skinnerboxes become even more prevalent as the latest random skin from a lootbox can temporarily impair AI performance before it learns the visual patterns
This is gunna be good
yeah tiny ttk benefits a lot more from aiming, which high ttk is the opposite - but i guess it's more like how much the range of ttk
even something as simple as halo 1 where the movement speed is ass and on the surface level seems basic and the ttk is really low, it still rewards very good aim until you scratch a bit deeper
Jesus christ those are some cuckold devs
>fps are dead
More like getting better. I had so much fun using aimbot to fuck with people. Normalfags deserve pain only.
Can't wait for all the completive normalniggers to leave games and have community run casual become the standard again.
No more nerfs to games like tf2 that only value compfags. They will probably fuck off to other genres and shit up those games next.
>ITS FINALLY HERE
This was always a thing on the horizon, but some madlad finally went out and did it.
Activision nuking it is fucking hilarious; they'll either fail miserably (most likely) or they'll guarantee that someone will anonymously sell a version for bitcoin online. You can't put the genie back into the bottle, retard.
I hope this fucking kills competitive games. I don't have anything against the idea of balancing a game for competitive play, but because casuals remain the big money maker companies decide to try and design a game around both casual and pro players; producing nothing but a bland muck where every attack, weapon or ability hits like a fucking pool noodle.
Aimbots are just the start though. Over time, there will be bots that eventually entirely play games for people. This seems stupid; but if the bot that grinds for you whilst you're off to work is cheaper than the boost a company is selling you, we're gonna see some real funny shit.
Hopefully it spreads a lot and kills the big cash cows like Call of Duty and Fortnite.
>Over time, there will be bots that eventually entirely play games for people.
Soyny are developing this journo mode AI for PS5 as we speak, the plan is that the console will play games by itself with minimal input from the user.
As long as this shit stays out of my 10 year old shooters then I don't care
Lol, imagine wasting time on shit like that instead of making the game fun.
The absolute state of soyny
Do they even make FPS designed for single player anymore?
>Hopefully it spreads a lot and kills the big cash cows like Call of Duty and Fortnite.
That would be awesome.
>Can't wait for all the completive normalniggers to leave games and have community run casual become the standard again.
>No more nerfs to games like tf2 that only value compfags. They will probably fuck off to other genres and shit up those games next.
Hopefully they'll make something for fighting games too, so that "pro" niggers will finally fuck off and fighting games will be fun once again.
Maybe people will finally start making singleplayer games again.
>Can't wait for all the completive normalniggers to leave games and have community run casual become the standard again.
>people only cheat when they're playing to win games in competitive settings
Are you actually this braindead or just pretending? You mention TF2, which is literally unplayable on servers of all skill levels and intensities beause of waves of bots and aimbots.
>Over time, there will be bots that eventually entirely play games for people
You remember the Starcraft 2 bot that made waves a couple years ago?
>Hopefully they'll make something for fighting games too, so that "pro" niggers will finally fuck off and fighting games will be fun once again.
>increasing the number of cheaters will make the game more fun
You can't be serious.
This is either going to suck and nobody will give a fuck, or it's going to be catastrophic and validate companies in creating kernel level anti-cheats. If this is even half the zest it claims to be, it's only going to lead to increased monitoring and spyware on steroids.
At worst your average person is going to start defending and pushing for blatant spyware and at best you'll get an unstoppable flood of niggerbrained normalfags hit every other game genre. I don't care much for FPS, especially not nu-FPS games, but this just seems like bad news overall.
>Aimbots are just the start though. Over time, there will be bots that eventually entirely play games for people. This seems stupid; but if the bot that grinds for you whilst you're off to work is cheaper than the boost a company is selling you, we're gonna see some real funny shit.
That happened to Titanfall 1 and is going to happen to Titanfall 2, both were good games that deserved better and are now both unplayable.
All this will do is create entire lobbies and matches of no-good cheating niggers. I'm happy to see that triple A games are getting fucked, but at the same time this isn't good news, especially for good multiplayer gaems that are objectively fun.
Nope, corpos only care about what product maximizes their profits 24/7 each year. Despite the fact that singleplayer games can make decent money, the greed is the only thing that matters to marketers and publishers in this day and age. They're probably going to allow this whole thing go by and not figure a way to solve the issue.
I play regularly and it's fine though
I expect them to try to make money off this somehow. Either by what >>67669 said or by releasing their own "legitimate" cheating methods combined with more invasive anti-cheat measures. I hope this thing either blows up or blows over. The last thing I want is for it to do nothing except increase corporate shittery and normalfag acceptance of malware.
It's only going to create a generation even worse at video games.
>I expect them to try to make money off this somehow
Oh they definitely will try to make money off this somehow. Whether they admit to allowing hacks or not, they will leeching off the morons who play baby games such as Apex, Fornite, COD, etc and that they no longer have to nerf anything, because most players can just cheat anyway. They are already lowering the standards for literal retards who can't comprehend simple mechanics. Everything is going in a downward spiral.
>That happened to Titanfall 1 and is going to happen to Titanfall 2
There were hackers and DoS attacks for those games, but I don't think either game got to the point where bots were assisting players or playing for them.
>everyone flies around in varying LGBTQ plane skins in order to confuse B-17 AI gunners
>Soy Thunder's default AI adopts the ML model forcing players to buy queer skins with Golden Eagles if they don't want to get one shotted or swarmed in EC
>Planetside 2 players use player customization in order to get ML aimbot users banned by dressing up like a player of an opposing team in order to force teamkills
>M$ adopts ML aim assist for the game journo difficulty mode of Gaylo 6
>fast forward a decade or so and ML gameplay assistants will be used to subtly alter player actions in ways beneficial to the government while recording instances of undesirable behaviour for further evaluation by domestic anti-racism investigators
>The last thing I want is for it to do nothing except increase corporate shittery and normalfag acceptance of malware.
If you keep worrying about whether companies will increase their shittery or not with or without pretexts (they will), or that normalniggers will accept an infinite amount of abuse provided their corporate overlords astroturf their garbage enough on reddit/twatter/faceberg, you will just erode your own sanity for no good reason.
>multiplayer shooter has yet another cheat engine for kiddies to spend their parents' money on
>does that mean that going prone and standing still so that the outline is hard to make out would defeat it?
You should stop playing shit games, anon.
Not unless you're easily amused by sub-Hollywood quality cutscenes.
Hopefully this kills matchmaking entirely as retards assume a game can never be fun because of the occasional AI aimbot user. Then FPS can go back to being a niche genre with dedicated servers.
Holy fuck. Imagine being so retarded that you only use the quick match feature on a game with dedicated servers. It was never a problem on community servers you idiot.
>No cracked version of the cheat
What a shame
Possible but unlikely, you can get an ungodly amount of training data with games by either automating it or just pooling the data the different users generate.
Can't wait for the new meta where certain camos and skins will become popular because they trick the AI better.
Good, I hope all these live service "competitive" shooters crash and burn from cheaters. The entire shooter genre is a fucking joke anyways.
On one hand, I want to see all the competitive trash out there to die from this.
On the other hand, this will make developers force consumers to use even more draconian spyware with the pretext of scanning your system for cheating software in order to be able to play the game, and those games that don't pull this shit will drown in cheaters.
>two hundred american dollars
>just to cheat
I'm in the wrong business.
What's more irritating to me is that Activision is somehow able to fucking seize websites and videos over this.
Who cares anymore. The only people that play these games are fucking retards. Let the malware infect them.
>literally unplayable on servers of all skill levels
What are you talking about? Wait... Do you use the matchmaking in TF2? You know there's plenty of private servers with decent players. I practically never see bots.
Post the deleted content faggots.
You're right but it doesn't make me want it any more. If it were just companies putting out garbage, I wouldn't care but it's the fact that people won't choose nothing over obviously harmful practices like spyware that gets me. But I shouldn't get depressed over something that hasn't happened yet.
How many people would spend hundreds of dollars to cheat? Probably some but surely they could have done better by charging a lot less.
Had a chuckle and tried this picture on some free online image recognition site.
Won't this also affect forgotten hope 2 and project reality?
They're probably limited in how little they can charge because of the fact that it's a physical device with the AI engine on it that you have to plug in so it can pretend to be a regular mouse. That's why it's immune to even the CIA nigger rootkits that get passed around as "anti-cheat" these days.
We've reached critical mass for anti cheat bloatware with this new development. Disguising it as a virtual mouse means they can't do anything about it. It doesn't even have to be a mouse, it could be a joystick or anything else that could be mapped to look axis. The only measure they have now is "only one input with axis is allowed" and that would be easily circumvented using input mapping software. In short they've lost this unwinnable arms race just as everyone predicted they would.
Maybe they could design another AI, which itself scans for AIs that scan your screen, but how much performance are you going to lose from this? I can't see competitive matchmaking based games as viable for a mass market if they take such draconian measures.
Smells extremely illegal to me. I'm guessing its a panic move they made and they don't give a shit about whatever fees they may end up paying. They just figure the guy hosting the AI has no lawyers.
>How many people would spend hundreds of dollars to cheat? Probably some but surely they could have done better by charging a lot less.
Much more than the amount that would install a fucking hacked Windows kernel to cheat at a fucking video game, yet that is the standard that publishers assume is necessary for anti cheat.
If only I were smart enough to make this cheat.
So, how do we stop retards from fucking up our games now?
Your game is already fucked up if it's a low TTK competitive multiplayer twitch shooter.
What exactly do you mean by "our games", and whichever they are, are they not already coming out of the shop fucked up by design by grabblers/pajeets/diversity abominations?
So it's computationally impossible, good to know. Cheaters won.
The solution to the cheater problem is, and has always been, to play against people who you know.
Everything is done for streamers now.
Even more reason to never buy any game that they stream.
Luciano you're slipping
>ever buying anything from companies
>existing in the physical plane
Get a load of this meatbag. I'm on like 4 more levels of knee-jerk contrarianism, step it up.
Also, that will be used to pretend that girls can be good at games, to inflate whatever fake numbers about "girls perform better", for propaganda.
>compares buying with living
Consumerists are mentally ill, indeed.
Do yourself a favor and grab a torrent client and check out https://fitgirl-repacks.site/, it's not that fucking hard to pirate vidya games. You can ask in the share thread here >>8508 Hell, you can even check out fucking leddit for some decent advice in fucking r/Piracy.
So basically, lurk moar, use google, and stop being a fucking faggot.
For some moar spoonfeeding, check out these links if you're too fucking lazy to visit a new thread.
holy fucking shit just use google shut the fuck up.
Sapient AI school shooting when?
It's only a matter of time.
is there any other option?
I know how to use google, but I guess some people here are too fucking retarded to look at the catalog, so I have to spoonfeed retards to make them shut up.
>multiplayer FPS are a blight.
You typed too long of a sentence Satan; I fixed it for you.
Fallout-3-II and Witcher-IIIa when?
No you need to shut the fuck up no one wants your help bitch.
Get a voice changer and talk in the lobby chat and people will openly defend you.
I don't know who's more retarded. That anon/Luciano for missing obvious bait or (You) for thinking that was a proper opportunity to shill pirate links.
Can't wait for the new age of AI photo detection to infect every part of culture, art, and human life.
>How many people would spend hundreds of dollars to cheat?
PCGamer published a rare good article around 2013-2014 that profiled a few people who habitually cheat and buy hacks for games like CSGO. It isn't that these people think "I want to cheat," it's that they have some kind of fundamental switch flipped wrong in their brain. They don't perceive aimbots or maphacks as cheating. They think that playing along and intentionally getting killed every few rounds makes it seem more normal, so they're less likely to be caught. They no longer care about the game, they care about the experience of having a win handed to them.
The kind of people buying hacks like this are different from you or me. They are not "playing the game" in the same way we think of games.
>I have to spoonfeed retards to make them shut up
The post you were replying to wasn't saying "buying games is much easier than pirating them, so everyone must buy at least some games." It was just continuing the kind of "never buy anything, all companies must die, the crash is coming soon, etc." schizoposting that has become ingrained into /v/ board culture recently.
Conclusion: you can't recognize jokes, which makes you the retarded one.
Such is life.
Cheating gets you victory.
Please be patient I have autism
It's one of the worst fandoms on planet next to furfags
Go back to wherever you came from faggot
Cancer filked community, but atleast they CAN make some good game, I've heard fightin' herds is good or something.
But still doesn't change the shitty community.
I don't think that spending that much time and resources on making both hardware and software just to cheat in kusoge could be described as a win.
Fuck off back to blacked.moe
This is plebelian software.
Machine Learning garbage is everywhere on the internet. People are teaching them all sorts of thing.
Someone is gonna make a cheapo version that doesn't require any hardware. You can easily make a primitive version of this aimbot, it'd probably be easier than making a old style aimbot.
One that doesn't require screen capture or HID hardware is probably possible.
Dude I was in that community.
Or (((your))) community faggot.
Your mother sucks cocks in hell.
Stop watching shows meant for goddamn children, you over-feminized fruitbowl.
I miss that man
>The only measure they have now is "only one input with axis is allowed" and that would be easily circumvented using input mapping software.
Make it even more braindead for the normalfags and build the aimbot into a mouse.
>not using a riot shield
It's like you're asking to get aimbotted.
Literally the only reason I played CoD for as long as I did when I was younger was because how fun I found it to use a shield. A lot of games with them make it unbearable to use them.
While I agree with the thesis of Mr. TACOBIZZLE's argument, he weakened his credibility greatly by begging his opponent for a "solution" to the riot shield non-problem. He should have taken a defensive position, waiting for his opponent to make assertions, and countered by reminding him that his needle dick is blocked by his massive riot shield.
That's why Advanced Warfare is still my favorite multiplayer entry in the series - you can consistently get top score with the shield only. Purely with the movement system of dashes, shieldbashing, sliding and ground stomping. I remember harvesting asshurt for months until I got tired. No wonder the movement in the later entries wasn't that complex due to assault rifle normalfags losing their shit when a shielder dashes to them across half the map and stomps them into the ground with nothing they can do,
Is that discount boxy, ShoeOnHead in that last image?
Ever played Fear 3? It's pretty meh but the riot-shield/smg combo in it is pretty fun to use.
Wait, is the aimbot not already a mouse? I just assumed it had HDMI passthrough and USB passthrough to do convincing aim assist and there wouldn't be a second mouse device that could be detected. What the fuck, they should be paying me to do this shit.
>Disguising it as a virtual mouse means they can't do anything about it. It doesn't even have to be a mouse, it could be a joystick or anything else that could be mapped to look axis.
Installing kernel level anti-cheats would mean allowing reading of input data unparsed which could potentially be used to identify the backbone of HIDs.
Also, most modern exploits or hacks for games are already undetectable. This wont change anything, the cheating industry has always been 10 steps ahead of the anti-cheat industry.
>Installing kernel level anti-cheats would mean allowing reading of input data unparsed which could potentially be used to identify the backbone of HIDs.
That's just another moving target. How do you differentiate between a real device and a virtual mouse if you can arbitrarily change what that virtual mouse looks like? Although I admit I don't fuck around with driver software much so I'm not that informed on it.
Fug, I miss Xbox Live so much.
Literally a handful of search engines that do almost as good, yet you choose to use Jewgle.
They used the likeness of some gun bunny jewtuber. Although the face is kind of off so she's probably not getting stopped in the street for being the Call of Duty girl.
I'm sorry, I know, I shouldn't have suggested jewgle for as a search engine. I was trying to do this for someone who I assumed was new to piracy, so I recommended a search engine that was widely known. You're right though, I've gotten better results for piracy when using duckduckgo, although a searx instance would probably be best.
This is a FEAR game?
in name only
I have spent more time on pirated MW2 servers than I care to admit. They were filled with cheaters, 1 kill = 1000000 xp tricks and general boobery.
google is the best at what it does and no other search engine can even come close to its accuracy. Ddg is just as bad and searx sucks giant ass. Name me a single one on par with google.
Bing™ by Microsoft.
-Sent from my Windows 10 Phone
Honestly Searx isn't that bad, the whole instances shit pisses me off because I can't get it working with a quick shortcut but otherwise I found it merely okay, I've never put in much thought into how a search engine should work though.
Ban blatant hackers and ensure that particularly skilled players, who fags using this will potentially be indistinguishable from, spread themselves over both teams so the overall match is balanced. Compare that to using some gay ranked matchmaking system where you're forced to play 60-90 minutes against a team that crushes you without trying likely using alt accounts or other tactics to keep themselves in lower ranks than their abilities would allow for.
>and validate companies in creating kernel level anti-cheats.
Not sure that would help here. If all it does is control the mouse input by using machine learning 'on the visual output' then the OS is unlikely to be able to detect it depending, at least, on how the device is getting access to that output. Rather than a hack that hooks into the game this is just examining the image your GPU is outputting and shooting things on that (presumably it still needs trained per game, and told which game it's playing, unless all modern FPS are so bland as to be interchangeable from a ML point of view). Machine learning is great at replacing dull but highly repetitive categorisation tasks so this is less like a classic aimbot and more like hiring an Asian child for next to no money and forcing him to train 24/7 at the game then occasionally take over shooting/nudge the mouse for you. ML is going to destroy the pajeet and chink economies and I can't wait.
>ZOMG FPS GAMES ARE DEAD
>actually it's just about competitive PvP shit
you've just described current matchmaking
sameanon, don't you know?
Mchine learning is just a different term for pajeet outsourcing
>you've just described current matchmaking
Pretty much, which is the point. Fags competitive enough to want to use this hack to look like a more effective player would either avoid more casual community run servers or would quit when they kept being forced to split over multiple teams instead of stack to keep everyone happy. That and worst case people will simply leave the server when not forced to stick around by matchmaking rules so they can be the first out of 1 player all they like.
>Mchine learning is just a different term for pajeet outsourcing
I have literally seen contracted companies claim to have proper database systems that turned out to be pajeets using excel and macros to manually shuffle data around.
>google is the best at what it does and no other search engine can even come close to its accuracy.
There's no such thing as "best" search results. You're just used to Google's algorithms, but if you still want to continue using Google, then I recommend Whoogle, since it's the same thing, except no spying: https://github.com/benbusby/whoogle-search#public-instances
I feel like search engines in general have been shit for decades. Dunno if it's just because of the expansion of the internet, or all the competitors to Google/Bing dying, or "search engine optimization" pushing out all the small sites. Probably a combination of factors.
Google is shit and the only reason why it is better than most search engines, because they're shit as well. It's not worth browsing a site that sends your information to the spooks and to get your daily fill of faggotry that googles enjoys shoving in people's faces.
Google was the best. Now its searches are so "personalised" that they're no longer accurate. Instead build up a knowledge base of where to find information on the internet.
This actually looks a lot better than I remember it being.
Metager, you fucking retard.
Your desperation is palpable, shill. Your company will fall.
For image-searches, yandex currently can't be beat. Even cropped black and white images work.
It is, much better than FEAR 2 as well
Take your meds schizo.
Solid argument right here.
>presumably it still needs trained per game, and told which game it's playing
Not so sure about that, depending on the architecture of the ML program they can be pretty good at abstracting. Not to mention that they don't have to be set in stone when they get deployed but could watch the player initially in case it can't figure out what to do.
Just tried it in a match, works fine.
I was thinking more about the fact that allied and enemy players might look pretty different in some games. More 'realistic' games tend to make them harder to pick out so you rely on UI elements compared to something like TF2 where the difference is all in the ingame model.
>Not to mention that they don't have to be set in stone when they get deployed but could watch the player initially in case it can't figure out what to do.
That could work.
>two decades ago parents bought a big book containing URLs of sites to visit because search engines weren't as much of a thing
>mfw we've come full circle
what is she singing? I think it's toxicity
>(YOU) WHAT DO YOU OWN THE WORLD
when I was young I used to use jewgle for everything but when I had something that could only be phrased in the form of a question I would use Jeeves. i was not very bright.
what don't you like about qwant?
it's a fun co-op romp n' shoot n' possess, but not a F.E.A.R. game.
>Are you actually this braindead or just pretending?
>can't play because bots and aimbots
You don't know about community servers anon?
Hundreds of servers exist that have the casual format that you can play right now. Casual.tf its the closest to casual that I've found and they have no bots.
cute mcdonalds cat
Wasn't anon talking about Titanfall and Titanfall 2 instead of Team Fortress 2? Because the former do also have rather annoying cheater problems from whatI recall.
the post he was responding too had a team fortress 2 image so I assume that's what he was talking about.
>Can't wait for the new meta where certain camos and skins will become popular because they trick the AI better.
>no more "I'm so wacky and unique" character artist designs because they get dominated by aimbot
It can't come soon enough.
>Devs no longer add a 2nd invisible light source behind every player model to light them up like they used to, now every player needs to be as well camouflaged as possible
>Grass & shadow render distances increase tenfold
>Realistic camo patterns that have been edited to match in-game textures and lighting
>Removal of enemy player spotting UI
Where were you when cheaters saved first person shooters?