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What a nice board!
READ THE RULES https://zzzchan.xyz/v/custompage/rules.html
It's a conspiracy >>>/hikki/


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General thread for discussions relating to editing and streaming of video game footage. Ask questions and share advice here.
Old thread >>16548 ( https://archive.vn/IOoNY )

>video editors
- Shotcut
- Kdenlive
- OpenShot

>command line tools
- ffmpeg
- webm.py

>video sharing/streaming platforms
- PeerTube
- LBRY.TV
- Cytube

All these are free and/or open sores.
Crazy Taxi stream is live NOW:
https://cytu.be/r/OldManGerpkin
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'nother stream in 2 hours.
Maybe less.
Who knows?
I'll never tell.
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>>63849
>XD
Fuck off to cuckchan.
>>63868
reddit even
>>63868
It's an edition, I think.
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>>63868
it's just the port name you silly willy XD
>>63665 (OP) 
>video editors
>- Shotcut
>- Kdenlive
>- OpenShot
which of these is the most retard friendly one
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>>63881
Shotcut, very easy to pickup but also quite powerful for professional usage.
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>>63883
alright I'll try it out then
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>>63665 (OP) 
>Kdenlive
It's a buggy piece of shit that freezes every 2 seconds. Blender is unironically one of the best video editors for more complex stuff.
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>>63884
Come back if you need help, I've used it plenty.

>>63885
Yeah I have to agree that Kdenlive is shit, and OpenShot is even worse, but I included both for completion's sake.
I asked the jannies to edit the OP to be better organized, let's hope they oblige.
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If I want to make jewtube videos, how did Mr. Enter get such a large amount of hate and what can I do to avoid it?
>>63881
An up and coming video editor to keep an eye on is the Olive video editor. It's too early to use it for anything serious at the moment, but in a few years who knows, people might regard it as the best free and open source video editor.
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>blender
>too slow & very inefficient at rendering video even when using scripts to speed up the slow rendering times, not good at text (although apparently other video editors can't figure out how to render a ttf font as is, so it's acutally decent)
>aegisub
>ok at making subs but can't even do to an absolute millisecond-tier because the UI only lists hundredths instead of thousandths

>too many retarded v1 v2 a1 a2 bullshit editors
i just want my free as in freedom editor damn it
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>>64317
>i just want my free as in freedom editor damn it
Don't worry, paid video editing software is just as shit.
>>64316
>If I want to make jewtube videos, how did Mr. Enter get such a large amount of hate and what can I do to avoid it?
>no technical progress in years unless absolutely forced to
>turbo autism-tier video subjects and presentation
>retard-tier opinions
>somehow still had  a solid and vocal fanbase
It's hard to fuck up as badly on accident.
>>64316
Who the fuck is Mr enter?
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>>64378
you
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>>64382
Since Audacity is being gay, is it better to record your voice in OBS, then export that audio to an editor for cleaning?
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>>64316
>what can I do to avoid it?
>wanting to "avoid hate" on jewtube
Faggot.

>>64317
>aegisub
Just use KDE's Subtitle Composer, it doesn't even need KDE. Has the accuracy level you're seeking and a great UI to boot doesn't look great on my dark theme but it's manageable
Vid related was just made by me using it.
>too many retarded v1 v2 a1 a2 bullshit editors
What does that mean?

>>64401
>record your voice in OBS
That works. You can even do it using only ffmpeg too, but I haven't properly tested it.
>export that audio to an editor
I don't know any good FOSS audio editors other than Audacity but Shotcut can edit audio files and export them just fine.
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If the webm isn't playing correctly for you here's the subtitle file (rename to .srt): https://pastebin.com/raw/C7xnEzpr
And here's the original video: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3tVrntKgdN0
>>64401
I am so use to Audacity, I likely won't switch again. What exactly did they do to piss people off?
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>>64501
Long story short, it got bought by a shady company and that said company is now trying to profit from it:
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1226
https://web.archive.org/web/20210705222630/https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1226
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>>64502
>that redditor that starts shitting on the guy suggesting a fork
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>>64502
Very gay.
>>64503
At this point that would be the best thing.
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What if I just don't update?
Can people still download older versions?
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>>64408
>KDE's Subtitle Composer
almost good except i can't move subtitles anywhere, I do like the fact that it actually reuses mpv to play video

>>too many retarded v1 v2 a1 a2 bullshit editors
>What does that mean?
There are video editors where the timeline has fixed 'layers' / tracks where you can only put video in v1 v2 v3 etc and audio only in a1 a2 a3 etc, its dumb because i don't understand it
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>>64513
Yeah, just don't download 3.0 or anything newer and you'll be fine. Archive old version + source, just in case.
>>64512
Better to just make a new program entirely than to maintain this dinosaur of a program, Audacity has shown its age for years now.

>>64513
Older versions of Audacity are still available on the official fosshub page:
https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity-old.html
and on the PortableApps sourceforge page (Windows only):
https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Audacity%20Portable/
Linux users should package their current version with dependencies into an AppImage or similar to avoid Audacity breaking on updated systems, or just use a fork.

>>64516
>almost good except i can't move subtitles anywhere
Fair point. Why not suggest that feature on their issue tracker? https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/subtitlecomposer/-/issues
>i don't understand it
It's quite simple really. The timeline distinguishes between video and audio by giving each a separate track, this is for proper display on the timeline (e.g. video thumbnail vs audio waveform) and for the ability to manipulate one medium independently of the other (e.g. replacing audio, delaying video, audio effects vs video effects).
You can have as many tracks of each type as you like, or none at all. When you import a video containing audio into the timeline it gets split across 2 new tracks, and both are bound together unless you specifically unbind them.
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>>64513
It's literalyl impoossible to use a program that works you need to update it you need to update it you need to update it you need to update it you need to update it you need to update it you need to update it if you have a program on your computer that hasn't been updated for the past 4 days then you will get 100000000000 viruses and malware and russian chinese hackers SECURITY VULNERABILITY losing all your data FBI will break into your bedroom spyware botnet
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>>64600
this! I didnt update my adobe reader and got hacked wtf now im gay irl because of it please update your pogroms if you dont want to be come gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>64600
OY VEY YOU DIDN'T UPDATE YOUR WANGBLOWS INSTALLATION ENJOY US CONSTRUCTING EVERY NEW PIECE OF SOFTWARE AND ALL THE (((TOTALLY ORGANIC))) THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE UPDATES AND NEW GAMES THAT DON'T WORK ON OLD OS VERSIONS AND EVEN IF THEY DID YOU HAVE TO USE OUR STORE TO USE ANY OF THEM YOU FUCKING CATTLE
Is there a worse and more infuriating company on the face of the planet than microsoft? I would delete this from this drive in 3 seconds if every game wasn't made for it.
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A very lazy stream in 2 hours and another one tomorrow at around the same time.
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>>65210
who cares
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>>65231
I care fag
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>>65234
well you're stupid so it's not surprising
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>>65235
No I'm not
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>>65234
Don't engage.
Starting now:
https://cytu.be/r/OldManGerpkin
>>65236
bullshit you're brain mush retarded
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>>65238
Ohh yeah If I'm retarted than you must be a nigger, take that bitch.
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>>65239
projecting darkie, post hand
>>65239
can't even spell retarded even though I just said it lmao get fucked niggerbrain
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Another stream in an hour, a lot more energy in e this time around.
Must be from swallowing all that cum at the gym instead of booze.
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>>65458
beg for money on the street like a normal parasite, streamer kike
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>>65459
I's do it fo fwee
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>>65465
>streams for free
Even more retarded, some dumb shit would probably pay you. Fucking embarrassing, never watching.
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>>65466
You missed it, mang.
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>>65473
Good, get fucked.
>>65458
Missed it again >:(
Is it possible to announce streams one day in advance at least?
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>>65479
I announced it yesterday.
There's a possibility I'll finish Vanquish tomorrow around the same time, but no guarantees.
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>>65483
So around 5 PM UTC? Looking forward to that.
https://time.is/UTC
>>63665 (OP) 
My webms always seem to be way over the maximum file-size. For example, a recent 10 minute recording (after editing and conversion) is 140MiB. What am I doing wrong?
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>>67217
>What am I doing wrong?
Impossible to tell without you giving us the specs of the video and the parameters used for conversion.
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>>67227
The source footage was from a two hour recording at 1080p, cut down to 10 minutes and resized to 360p. It was edited in Shotcut and exported from it as well using the default "stock" webm-vp9 settings.
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>>67229
In Shotcut's export panel click the 'Advanced' button, go to the 'Codec' tab, then do the following:
- set GOP to 249
- set B frames to 8
- tick Dual pass
And tell me how it goes.
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Going to stream some EDF5 because god damnit I need to play something fun right.
Stream will be live at 8~9 PM CET.
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>>67245
The exported video currently sits at ~200MiB after the second pass. After the first pass it was ~18MiB
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>>67260
First pass is only statistics, dual pass will only give you a better encode than single pass and not solve your problem. If you want a ~30mb webm you have to use something like the average bitrate mode and the bitrate equation in the OP webm guide. Dont forget to account for the audio bitrate and then hope VP9 stays on target for once.
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>>67251
1 HOUR UNTILL STREAM
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>>67327
number one: no one cares
number two: until is spelled with just one l
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>>67338
>number two: until is spelled with just one l
Ohh shit thanks man
>>67260
What this anon >>67310 said about passes + try also limiting the bitrate in Shotcut (bitrate field in codec tab).

>>67327
Shitty live streams? I just passed by and there was no one.
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>>67350
You know what's an hour right ?
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>>67351
He said 8-9 CET, it's already 8.
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>>67353
ohh for fuck sake I need to be more detailed about the time zone shit
EDF stream is live btw, if more anons wanna join.
Forgot the stream link
https://cytu.be/r/Shitty_Live_Streams
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>>67245
Just export it to AVI or some lossless format and then use ffmpeg, it'll be way easier and faster long term, plus it has some really useful features on by default  (e.g. auto-alt-ref 1) so you can just ignore them. 
Basically there's 2 big ways to encode webms, first is CRF, a really messy but really fast way, and setting the bitrate with two pass, which is really slow but gives you way more control, vid related was encoded with two pass. 
For CRF usually "ffmpeg -i input -crf 33 output" is good enough, and then you can fine tune it from there. 
Bitrate requires two commands, first the first pass to get information about the video, and then second pass to use that information to choose where to use more or less data. The encoding template in the webm guide explains it pretty well, but on newer ffmpeg versions you can omit a lot of stuff like the -c:v and -c:a as it goes with vp9 and opus by default. 
And for some general tips try to keep audio to around 25k, more if there's music, but if it's narration only you can usually get away with -ac 1, which only uses one audio channel and cuts the size in half.
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thank god for titles, otherwise I wouldn't have known what I was looking at
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>>67376
>Just export it to AVI or some lossless format and then use ffmpeg
I thought of giving that answer initially, but I figured it would be too complicated and Shotcut should be able to do the job anyway (given the right parameters). You can already set the bitrate, minimum quality, and maximum quality using the Shotcut GUI so it shouldn't be any different from using ffmpeg directly.
>try to keep audio to around 25k
I wouldn't worry about audio at all, at least until a manageable video size is reached.
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>>67376
>50 minute long Knudsen video in less than 30 MBs
fucking A
Granted it's mostly slow moving or still images, but that's impressive nontheless
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>>67382
>so it shouldn't be any different from using ffmpeg
The problem is that you end up being over reliant on Shotcut, and as that is an editing program is just isn't made to make constant encoding changes on the fly, taking the effort to learn ffmpeg now will let you do stuff like quickly taking a 10 second clip off a video and trying different configurations to test the quality, maybe even with simultaneous encoding in different terminals, plus scripts that can go through complex configurations in two words including the name of the input video. It just gives you way more freedom to mess around and that's really useful if you're trying to figure stuff out.
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>>67384
Completely agreed, but I still recommend Shotcut for beginners as they may be put off by ffmpeg's complexity.

>>67381
Fucking kek.
>>67376
Like most video encoding software these days Shotcut already uses ffmpeg internally and you can pass parameters directly to it too.
>>67381
Ohh god it looks worse than I expected
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Finally done. Special thanks to everyone who helped
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>>67455
Well done anon. What did you end up doing to achieve this result?
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Today at 8~9 PM CET, I'll stream RE8 fixed edition, something big tiddie women something something she's not that hot.
That would be 6 or 7 hours after this message gets posted.
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>>67705
Don't forget to put up a title so we don't forget what you're playing.
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>>67705
Just refer to https://time.is/CET instead of asking anons to do math

>>67726
Can't mistake tits this massive.
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>>67769
>instead of asking anons to do math
Is 6+2 too hard for you fag, are you sure you went to school ?
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>>67775
I'm more concerned about the use of CET when all of CET yurop is on CEST.
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>>67806
Whenever I look for my country time zone it always says CET.
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>>67775
>what is a joke

>>67806
>>67835
time.is previously showed me a warning on one of the yuro timezones, because it was not actually observed due to DST, so it should be easy to check.

>>67705
It's almost 9, we doing this or not?
STREAM IS LIVE
https://cytu.be/r/Shitty_Live_Streams
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>>67489
I used the following script and caltulated the video bitrate using the formula provided in the .webm guide image posted >>63665 (OP) 
language: bash
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ffmpeg -i "$1" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -b:v $2k -c:a libopus -b:a $2k -speed 1 -lag-in-frames 25 -auto-alt-ref 1 -frame-parallel 0 -tile-columns 6 -quality good -sn -ac 1 -an -y -threads 4 -g 9999 -colorspace bt709 -pix_fmt yuv420p -vf scale=-1:480 -f webm -pass 1 /dev/null
ffmpeg -i "$1" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -b:v $2k -c:a libopus -b:a $2k -speed 1 -lag-in-frames 25 -auto-alt-ref 1 -frame-parallel 0 -tile-columns 6 -quality good -sn -ac 1 -an -y -threads 4 -g 9999 -colorspace bt709 -pix_fmt yuv420p -vf scale=-1:480 -f webm -pass 2 "$1.webm"I would reccomend setting -ac to 2 as on 1 it cut out the audio track.
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>>68024
>I would reccomend setting -ac to 2 as on 1 it cut out the audio track.
That's not it, you used -an which means no audio, hence why your webm is silent.
The idea behind two pass is analyzing the video before actually encoding it, so in first pass you ignore the audio using -an, then in second pass you substitute -an with the regular audio arguments -c:a libopus -b:a $2k
Now you don't want to encode your video again, so just encode the audio by itself using:
ffmpeg -i YOURFILE -vn -c:a libopus -b:a $2k ENCODED.opus (note how I added -vn to remove the video)
Then join the encoded audio with the encoded video using:
ffmpeg -i ENCODED.webm -i ENCODED.opus -c:v copy -c:a copy OUTPUT.webm
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RE8 Stream part 2, will be live in around 3 hours.
I was planning on making a short highlight of yesterday stream but I got lazy
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>>68097
I remember the webm about Raven Software with that song in the background. What's the nigger tune?
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>>68100
No idea lad, I remember seeing out there on youtube but forgot the name of the vid.
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>>68103
I cannot believe I asked to be spoonfed this. This is probably the lowest I have stooped yet.
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>>68100
>>68097
>>68103
this is why you don't rename webms with dope music, you silly geese
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>>68097
You know what scratch that, I'll stream tomorrow I'm not feeling well
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>>68126
Get well soon lad I went by the cytube before seeing your post and left a message, so now I look retarded
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>>68216
>>68117
Thank doc
I might stream something around this time tomorrow.
>why the vagary?
irl shit might happen, but I have the next week off, so I'll either stream shit or make a short Necromunda video.
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>>68397
Looking forward to it oldman
Going to try streaming in the next hour (like 10 minutes from now)
https://cytu.be/r/aseriesoftubes
The game is War For the Overworld (again).

Just as a warning i3wm can act weird with OBS and vidya.
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>>68397
An hour or so to go until the stream.
For now, enjoy E3 2000 POV ASMR.
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>>68576
fucking alzheimers
https://cytu.be/r/OldManGerpkin
>>68576
>those vhs colors
It's an abstract kind of feel
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We are now live to play the most random hodgepodge of vidya.
Probably PS1 and PS2 emulation, we'll see where the night takes us.
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Killing it
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>>68607
Call me the Drunken Master
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>>68641
More like drunken disaster.
>>68641
Lmfao there goes my rage compilation. Stop fucking drinking while gaymen you cracker.
Did you manage to finish The Neverhood? I tried going back to the stream link and it's "unavailable" somehow.
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>>68784
nah, I got tired of the sewers and switched to Burnout
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Did more editing than I usually do on a video (fade in and fade out at the end), and I managed to squish it in the file size limit. 

Original resolution video posted at the top of the playlist here:
>>68450

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