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>post some ~2k builds
ok

I'm about to have spare parts and a spare case, what to do with the other computer I will have laying around?

>>183143
Make a home server out of it.

>>183123 (OP) 
How the hell does third pic even happen? Did the Thonkpad overheat? Did someone put a fucking blowtorch to the keys? Was some uber-neckbeard's mitts so warm and greasy it melted plastic? 
>>183134
Goddamn, don't do this to me anon. I don't need to suffer like this thinking about the good old days.

>>183147
Probably spilled coffee, it doesn't take as much heat as you'd think to melt Chinesium, especially on the newer Chinkpads.

>>183147
>I don't need to suffer like this thinking about the good old days.
just do what I did, snoop around your mom's workplace and find some beige towers in the back and steal them give them good homes and slap your old AGP GPU in it.

>>183158
alternatively (only works if you have a car)
>put ad on craigslist/local ad site
>"old computer free pickup!"
>get dozens of boomers wanting to get rid of their jurassic computers without lifting their asses

>>183159
Good idea, also comes with the added bonus of getting to scrape passwords/credit card numbers/SSNs they leave on them.

>>183134
Post more.

You forgot to post the links!
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Build_a_PC
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Laptop_Buying_Guide
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Headphones
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Mice
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Routers

https://pcpartpicker.com/
https://www.logicalincrements.com/
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
https://www.notebookcheck.net/

https://rufus.ie/en/ (use it in dd mode if you get errors)
https://linuxmint.com/ || https://xubuntu.org/
https://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php && https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://appdb.winehq.org/ && https://www.protondb.com/ && https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_games && https://libregamewiki.org/List_of_games

Buying the parts and building your PC yourself is better than getting a prebuilt PC or a ((( gaming laptop ))). Laptops are only good for the portability. You can actually save money in the long run if you build your PC yourself because you can replace broken parts and upgrading your GPU is probably enough when you need to upgrade (to be able to play a new game, for example). You can use NirSoft ProduKey to get the Windoze product key from your old computer. The last time I checked, you can use Windows 7 product keys on Botnet 10. You can get a Botnet 10 iso here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO 
be sure to run a (probably mostly snakeoil) script that attempts to mitigate some of the spyware features in Botnet 10: https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater && https://github.com/bitlog2/DisableWinTracking && https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla && https://www.safer-networking.org/products/spybot-anti-beacon/ (proprietary freeware)

A better solution is to switch to GNU/Linux (like Linux Mint).


>>183123 (OP) 
>I need a new PC, post some ~2k builds
Do you really need a 2k PC? Perhaps you do, but what are you going to use it for? What games you want to play (etc)?
You can use this build as basis for your build: 
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hngxqm
Some notes:
* if you can't get a Fractal Design Focus G case, I recommend Fractal Design Focus 2 (or perhaps some EATX case).
* if you want a different GPU, make sure to get one that has at least 8GB of VRAM. also, I wouldn't get Intel Arc GPU. I think waiting for a new generation is a good idea.
* if you want to be able to emulate PS3, get a CPU that has support for AVX-512: https://whatcookie.github.io/posts/why-is-avx-512-useful-for-rpcs3/
* if you have some money to burn, you might want to get AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (or even AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D or even some AM5 cpu (+mobo+ddr5 RAM)) but if you get it, you should buy a CPU cooler (but the stock cooler is good enough for AMD Ryzen 5 5600).
* If you want to have integrated GPU as a backup, you may want to consider something like AMD Ryzen 5 5600G or Intel Core i5-12400 (not the ~F version). But intel CPUs need a different MoBo.

>>183274
Don't switch to Mint. Their package repository has been breached so many times that it has to be compromised at this point.

>>183326
Wasn't it just once and it was caught right away?

>>183327
As far as I know, yes: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994

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RX 7700 XT release fucking when? Those damn double niggers kikes of AMD made me waste the whole day watching their presentation while they masturbate about tech helping niggers and womyn get to the moon.

>>183330
Good. I use mint now. My only complaint is that they changed the default colors on things with 21, you can change it all back though.

My robot wife is stuck on a bootloop when I was trying to jailbreak her, send help.

>>183412
>not buying the FOSS wife

This is a bit long-winded but I wanted to share it with you guys because it's kind of funny.
>decided to "upgrade" from Win7 to Win10 because I'm actually starting to encounter meaningful programs that don't work properly on or support features for Win7
>new hardware and drivers are also meant to be compatible with Win10, so I may be hard-pressed to find a new mobo or CPU if I decide to upgrade
>do my research, get ISOs from reliable sources, validate the checksums to ensure the OS isn't compromised, etc.
>installation is bittersweet, but nothing seems to be awry, and I'm using the long term service channel so the OS itself should be stable
>bluescreen after five minutes
>welp
>bluescreen again even sooner
>nervous_laughter.mp4
>bluescreen-boot loop eventually stops at the repair screen
>try every single troubleshooting and auto-repair option over the course of two days
>fiddle with BIOS settings, try different versions of Win10, everything
>at best, bluescreen after a few minutes
>at worst, computer doesn't boot
>finally down to my final two options: install a new motherboard which might magically work better with Win10, or try reinstalling Win7 just for the sake of stability
>"let's go with the software solution first"
>installation would have gone fine, except my keyboard and mouse stopped working
>this also applied to another keyboard and mouse that hadn't been plugged into the PC case in months
>"alright, I guess I'll try restarting manually"
>PC boots into auto-repair mode this time, and it actually does something
>nearly have a heart attack when it starts scanning and "fixing" my media drives, but it doesn't actually harm them
>reboot, scan, reboot, scan
>"not again"
>one final reboot
>it's the Win10 login screen, with my account properly implemented
>the OS recognizes both my monitors immediately and outputs at the correct resolution and refresh rate

I choose to believe that the malicious spirit within every Win10 installation felt genuine fear when I started replacing it with Win7 and finally chose to accept the supremacy of flesh.  It's genuinely insane to me that I had a better "it just works" experience with non-systemd Linux (Devuan) on another PC I was building than I did with modern Windows.

>>183412
At least she isn't actively misbehaving, right?
https://piped.mha.fi/watch?v=5wIL7LRXAfc

>>183418
Now be prepared for the same thing every other time it updates t. subbed in computer repair shop which today means unfucking win10+ updates 90% of the time
If you have any programming knowledge at all unpatching software to run on win7 again is less of a hassle.

>>183418
>installation would have gone fine, except my keyboard and mouse stopped working
So they were working at the beginning of the setup, then stopped? That's really strange...
In the future, if you wanna cleanly remove a faulty Windows install then you need to live boot into a Linux image or one of the specialized rescue discs (e.g. SystemRescue). Once booted wipe the C:\ drive (assuming there's nothing on it except Windows itself) then go on to installing whatever you like.

What to do if I let some very little to the point its barely noticeable water into my PC case?
The computer font was not powered on, by the way.

>>183441
Water is not a magic fatal curse for electronics. Plug it off, take it apart, put all pieces upside down or in whichever position will make the water flow out, use a hair drier or something similar if you can and just let the water dissipate.

>>183439
>In the future, if you wanna cleanly remove a faulty Windows install then you need to live boot into a Linux image or one of the specialized rescue discs (e.g. SystemRescue). Once booted wipe the C:\ drive (assuming there's nothing on it except Windows itself) then go on to installing whatever you like.
Why would you not create a newly formatted partition at install time? Installing operating systems on existing partitions makes no sense.
>>183441
Unplug it, let it dry. Hope it's not fried.

>>183439
I formatted the C: drive several times throughout the process.  I don't know what kind of data could have endured and caused trouble.

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>>183441
Your PC is going to explode next time you turn it on.

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>>183454
>free bomb
Sweet.

What CPU has the best integrated graphics right now? Not most efficient, or best value, but straight up most powerful graphics processing. I'm curious how good an IGPU can get.

>>183326
This.
Be a big boy and use Devuan.
It's more efficient than SystemD+Linux OS's.

Proton or wine staging work fine for good games.

>>183493
Shit.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-11-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-AMD-RX-570/m401440vs3924

>>183493
The Ryzen 5000 APUs. Based on Vega due to RDNA/Navi not scaling down well enough to fit in an APU's power budget. Like any iGPU your performance will be dictated almost entirely by RAM frequency though.

>>183495
>It's genuinely insane to me that I had a better "it just works" experience with non-systemd Linux (Devuan) on another PC I was building than I did with modern Windows.
<Be a big boy and use Devuan.
<single line "This." and line breaks for dramatic emphasis
Average freetard literacy.

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What do you guys think of gaming laptop? I have been considering these for a while now. Since I am a highly competent programmer, my job often requires me to travel oversea. I was wondering whether to get a macbook pro or a high end gaming laptop? Can you guys recommend a game dev like me which types of laptop fit me the most? No desktop btw.

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>>183627
>macbook

>>183627
if you really were one, you wouldn't be asking this question
and besides, gaming laptop is an oxymoron, only spoiled kids nag their parents to buy them the latest Razer glow in the dark machine.
If you really do need a powerful GPU to, I don't know, render videos on the go, then look up private contractors who will build you a laptop to spec "from scratch".
Either way, you can't afford it. And I'm sure you don't actually work, so you can't ask your employer to buy it for you.

>>183627
>highly competent programmer
Yeah right, anyway, if you want performance from a Laptop you almost always want workstation Laptops from, say Dell or Lenovo. They also have the added benifit of (usually) not looking like shit designed for children.

>>183147
I've melted part of my keyboard by screwing the exhaust on my gas powdered soldering iron on the wrong way.

>>183627
You can spec out a laptop with a GPU (RTX 3060, 3070, 3080 should get you going), it will run hot though and they start at about $1,800. 

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100006740%208000%20601399309%20601360960%20601360962%20601360961&Order=1

Agreed with the others, if you do computers for work, don't show up with the RGB unicorn shart model.

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>>183628
What's wrong with macbook pro? I can afford it so i don't care about price. Money is not an issue for me.

>>183646
>what's wrong with apple

>>183646
You're going to make so many people genuinely angry I have to congratulate you.

>>183646
>gamedev
>on a macbook
>which doesn't run .exe files without using wine
I know you're probably baiting but c'mon now.

>>183627
>my job often requires me to travel
>game dev
>>183646
>What's wrong with macbook pro? 
Overpriced and locked to Apple. And if you exclude Adobe products, GNU/Linux has as good software support as Apple FagOS. A gaymer laptop or a business laptop is better choice. I recommend a Thinkpad (even a modern model). If you want to buy new, you can buy it directly from Lenovo and you can even customize some of their models.

>No desktop btw.
It goes without saying if you need to travel.

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>use artix
>want to use blender
>install it
>mfw pic related
>read 
>do pacman -Sy artix-keyring
>still have the same problem
Help.

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>>183820
>signature from [...]@archlinux.org
You need both artix-keyring and artix-archlinux-keyring.
pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring artix-keyringIt should automatically get rid of old signatures and run the init and populate commands on the new ones, but if not you'll have to run those manually.
And if you haven't already, for artix-archlinux-keyring you need to enable the [Universe] repos. They moved it because it's not needed to run the OS itself anymore, but anyone who wants to actually use a lot of software now needs to do extra steps, fucking retards.

>>183274
>Do you really need a 2k PC? Perhaps you do, but what are you going to use it for? What games you want to play (etc)?
I don't need anything, I don't even need a PC at all, I just want one to play all the games and I don't think I'm ever going to build a new PC again after that.

>>183820
https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Troubleshooting#Invalid_or_corrupted_packages_.28PGP_signature.29

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Thanks, anons, the spirit in the machine is letting me use blender.

>>183849
>mcafee

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>>183879
F to the man
S to the software

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>>183418
>>183418
>starting to encounter meaningful programs that don't work properly on or support features for Win7
Yeah I feel ya. I chose to go with Windows 10 Ameliorated. Bit of a hassle to work around things but ultimately. it just werks and I'm not apart of windoze botnet10.

>>183645
>>183645
Keep in mind when spec'ing out laptops or SoC/SBC desktops, that any part's supposed model name is roughly comparable to desktop parts a tier lower, due to thermal throttling, downclocking, or literally being different silicon. e.g., mobile 3080 is roughly on par with desktop 2080

>>183628
>>183646
>>183647
>>183652
>>183670
Serious answer for anyone who may get saddled with modern crApple whether or not you run a normal OS on it: The hardware is sealed shut, taped, glued, and soldered together in ways many other makes of laptop still aren't, on top of which the latest models have individual subcomponents (from ribbon cables to BOOT DRIVES) cryptosigned to hardbrick if you try to swap or fix them.

The things are timebombs waiting to go off in your face unless you have free replacements from corporate and store all your files on external drives

My custom build PC died again and I don't have any extra parts to test which caused the failure. Meanwhile, my 10 year old dell laptop, which I teared down and broke the plastic so many times still works flawlessly to this day. Fuck PC. Go fuck yourself.

>>184336
I will never ever listen to your pieces of trash ever again. To the general public, macbook is the epitome of quality and getting shit done. Go fuck yourself.

>>183893
How did you get around updates?
I failed to block it, are there some written instructions you followed?

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>>183418
Windows 10 is a lot like rape:
The more you struggle and fight against it, the worse it gets. If you really want to go through with it, you would have to give in and surrender completely. 
Your ego is dead, your privacy is null, and your hardware isn't yours.

>>184336
How did it die?

>>184350
It just died. Was using it normally the day before, like 10 hours before.

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>>184340
You aren't running AME like other anon. AME completely removes many parts of Windows, including the Windows Update automatic service, so that any desired updates must be installed manually (e.g.: via DISM).

If something as extreme as AME doesn't fit your use case, there are basically three other approaches:
<a) Block all known M$ IP#s in your router/VM/.hosts/etc. and hope you didn't miss any
<b) Do not give your Windows install NIC access at all
<c) Do like  >>184345 sez and let the full-on botnet happen. Just avoid doing anything sensitive with nor exposing any sensitive information to your Windows install.

>>184350
>talking to it
If it's a troll, it's maybe 2/10 at best, needs more creativity. If it's not a troll, it will eventually learn appreciate the convenience of easily swapping out major hardware components for <1/4 the MSRP instead of struggling with finicky sealed craptops built out of nonstandard parts.

>>184340
Pick your poison my good man.
https://ameliorated.info/index.html#   

Check here for various info
https://wiki.ameliorated.info/doku.php?id=start

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>friend's nu gaymer rig isn't working
>every time he plays Density 2 it crashes at either the menu or character select, other games have similar issues
>ok what error does it give you
<"broccoli"
>...what
<it just says "broccoli"
>wtf
>this is an actual error thrown by Destiny 2 for GPU memory errors
it's like devs don't want their bugs to be fixed when they don't tell us what is actually happening, just some dumb codename that means nothing. he's already reinstalled Win11 several times and RMA'd his GPU, the only notes that came back with it were "Fixed OK". Reinstalled nYidia drivers several times. At this point I'm considering just putting him on 10 to see if that fixes it, unless there are any other solutions you can think of.

>>184651
Tell him to stop playing shit games.

>>184651
><it just says "broccoli"
I am going to kill all destiny devs and then myself, in that order.

>>184651 
like the bumblebee errors
nvidea names their drivers like this whats your problem retard

>>184651
Did nothing come up for the code name error? Considering how popular it is there should be someone else who got it, right?

>>184668
It accomplishes nothing and makes niggers like you speak up when you should butt out of shit you don't understand.

>>184651
>Reinstalled nYidia drivers several times
Did he use DDU (Wagnardsoft's Display Driver Uninstaller) each time, like everyone knows you should on Windows? Or was he silly enough to use the built-in uninstallers?
>unless there are any other solutions you can think of
After properly reinstalling the drivers, the next thing to rule out is hardware problems. Start by framecapping the game (e.g.: to 30 FPS) to decrease load, and downclocking the GPU (e.g.: to 80% of stock clocks), if that fixes it, crank them up a bit at a time until it starts crashing again.

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I know even the lowest end zen 3/4 cpu beats mine in single core, but I decided I wanted to overclock my rig, so I did, and reached my max clock of 4.55ghz in my 3950X @ 1.37v, along with RAM being 3800mhz 16-15-15-24cl timings and I'm very satisfied. Feels good man, feels very good. Still not enough to run sonic unleashed at a locked 100fps though, let alone 60 in the demanding areas

>>184818
Nice work anon. 
Here I haven't even picked out a background yet for my desktop yet.

>>183849
How do you type on that thing?

Any recommendations for android anti-virus?

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>>184994
Anon... what have you done?

>>185010
Nothing, just a precaution.

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>>184994
Install a custom ROM, use some sort of firewall, remove gapps...thats about it

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I'm gonna sound like an absolute poorfag i am and a slowpoke, but my god do NVME drives make a huge difference. I always thought SATA SSDs were fast enough, but these things are something else. I went to take a dump while winblows install was copying files to the fresh drive, and when i came back the computer was already in the setup, once i said no to everything i was in the desktop in roughly 2 minutes. My boot times went from 10-15 seconds to 5-10, shit's so fast i can't even see the BIOS screen anymore, it gets to the login screen faster than my monitor can pick up the signal, i gotta mash DEL on boot if i want to enter the BIOS now. I was able to move everything i had on my SATA SSD (80% full) to the NVME in roughly 5 minutes. And this was a budget PCIe 3.0 drive on a budget rig (B450/R5 3600), i don't even want to imagine how fast a PCIe 4.0 drive will be on a motherboard and CPU that will support its maximum speed.

I'm sorry, but i can no longer go back to my old 4TB WD Black, from now on i'll use the 1TB MX500 i've been using as a boot drive for games, and the 1TB P3 as a boot drive.

>>185146
Yeah platter drives are inadequate for anything but storage these days.

>>185147
Not really. Larger drives means higher platter density and more platters which both mean more speed. Having multiple platters is like before SSD's when people would run a bunch of drives in RAID 0 for speed, except in one self-contained package. My largest drives are about as fast as my old SATA SSD's on sequential R/W and there are significantly larger drives on the market now.

Of course, if you are dumb enough to use wang10+ you're pretty much forced to use an SSD unless you want your system drive to be completely crippled by your OS doing constant random R/W 24/7 no exceptions.

>>185155
None of that matters though. A platter drive will always be limited by the fact that the read head needs to physically move to the data. It's simply obsolete technology.

>>185157
Sure anon. Wake me up when a decent game even needs NVMe speeds and the price per TB has caught up.

>>185147  
outdated even for storage
old school magnetic tapes are still the industry standard for archives not retarded spinning disks

>>185157
Your mom is obsolete technology.
>>185161
If you actually used one you would know this is bullshit. The only advantages tapes have over platter drives is $/TB, cold storage guarantees and keeping all the moving parts in the drive. It continues to be the standard for backups because those three things are all you care about in backups. For online storage platter drives will be better until dotr happens and we get Superman holographic data crystals.

>>185187
Most of the people complaining about physical disks are the people who torrent all day several magnitudes of GBs to one drive, pushing the drives well beyond their limits even compared to data center use. And of course instead of actually storing the data they delete it and download it again 2 days late.

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>Still running a i5-4690k + R9 290 PC from 2014
>Want to play some newer shit like RE:Village, War of Rights, Post Scriptum, etc. but they run like shit so I have to upgrade
>hmm, let's check the prices
>mid range GPUs in 2023 cost as much as a high-end GPU in 2014
What the fuck happened? I would have fucking upgraded back in 2016 if I knew things were going to become this cancer.

>>185191
>What the fuck happened?
Have you been living under a rock? Lolrona and its money printing, manufacturers trying to artificially inflate prices and short supply, scalpers and even more inflation have fucked prices. In fact the current prices are almost low compared to what they were a year ago.

>>185191
>want to play some newer shit
Don't. A 6500XT will be faster (and a lot cooler) than what you have and about $400 still, and it will play everything worth playing aka none of the garbage you just listed on high or max settings. There's also the used market which is slowly approaching sanity now that crypto has been jewicided and almost everyone who was willing to pay scalper prices to upgrade already has.

>>185191 
never forget the 6 trillion holocough (march 2020, havent bothered looking at the total spending now the 6 tells you everything)
a trillion is a million times a million btw
thats 1e12 btw
or 1 million per day for 2740 years btw

>>185191
There's good deals still, if you only wanna spend about $200 you could get a RX 590/1080 Ti off ebay, although the bottleneck will be insane, even with the fastest CPU your MOBO can use.

If you can afford it, get a MSI B550, a Ryzen 5600 (3600 is cheaper but way slower, 5600X is slightly faster but tends to cost $50 more and runs way hotter) and two 8GB RAM sticks at 3200/3600 MHz, you can reuse your case and PSU if you feel they're still in good shape, although these two are not too expensive (a corsair 4000D for $90 and a EVGA supernova 750 for $100 are good choices), as for your GPU you can go with any of the above or a RX 6600 if you can get it for about $250, 6600 XT and 6650 XT are way too expensive for what they offer, and you can no longer get a 6700 XT for $450.
>>185194
>6500 XT
You mean that one card with no h264 encoding and gimped lanes that is only slightly faster than a 1650 yet costs more than twice as much?

>>185208
Anon should just straight up ignore the Ryzen 5600X. It gives like 3 frames more in very demanding vidya for extra $50. It's straight up a scam.

>>185161
>old school magnetic tapes are still the industry standard for archives not retarded spinning disks
Sure, but when consumer tape formats died in the early '00s, the industry used that as a pretext to kill helical scan, consolidate entirely around LTO, and crank prices to the squeaking point.

As a result, current-gen tapes cost more than HDD per TB unless you bulk order them by the dozens, and drives are THOUSANDS of dollars. But enterprise users don't mind, because the tape manufacturers' massive profit margins allow special directly negotiated orders to always undercut HDDs by just enough.

Oh, what's that, you also want something almost as cheap as tape, and even more reliable, but random-access like HDD and almost as fast? Too bad! BDXL-RE MSRPs are pricier than SSDs, and their enterprice-targeted derivative (ODA) has the same deliberately impassible two-tiered pricing structure as tape.

Unless you have personal connections with the IT department of a Cloud Computing™ megacorp, the only affordable option for personal data hoarders is a NAS full of HDDs.

>>185194
>the used market which is slowly approaching sanity now that crypto has been jewicided and almost everyone who was willing to pay scalper prices to upgrade already has
This is the actual answer. Used is presently 1/2 to 1/4 the price of new for most GPUs.

>>185208
You're right, I was thinking that the 6500XT was the cheapest ungimped RDNA2 card and the 6400 was the literal laptop GPU slapped onto a PCIe card to exploit the crypto bubble.

>>185191
Its time to buy a new computer in blackfriday.
>>185224
>6500XT
That GPU is a piece of shit too, the only good thing about the 6400 is that is only 1 slot. So, if anon wants to buy the cheapest newest AMD GPU, it should be the RX 6600. But it would be better to buy used, if he doesn't make a bad roll and gets an used GPU from a crypto miner nigger that used a hose to clean the GPUs with water.

>>185231
>make a bad roll and gets an used GPU from a crypto miner nigger that used a hose to clean the GPUs with water
Many sellers on used sites offer no-questions-asked 90-day returns, or you can buy a cheap 2-4-year 3rd-party warranty . That's on top of the 1-month returns for items not matching description on all items by the site itself (e.g.: eBay, Amazon Marketplace), taxes/fees/shipping both ways included. Also, many items on those sites aren't even used, but refurb or new listed by the manufacturer, with OEM warranty intact.

>>185219
>As a result, current-gen tapes cost more than HDD per TB
And this is why SMR is the default backup media for little people.
>But enterprise users don't mind, because
Tax write-offs and government contracts. If you have a tax bill coming, you're better off spending what you would spend on those taxes on expensive hardware.

>>185262
>SMR
Bad news: That will fuck you up if you allow the drive to pretend it's PMR supporting conventional FSs

Good news: Using certain FSs (F2FS, ZFS, Btrfs) when correctly configured, and an HDD with firmware supporting host-managed drivers, it will work properly and save some cash.

>Tax write-offs and government contracts
That too, but the prices negotiated at those scales really do undercut HDD, though still not as much as they would under genuine competition. Another example of the same obtuse pricing structure is the latest generation of multi-socket ARM server hardware (e.g.: ThunderX3, AmpereOne, Neoverse 2) abandoning sales to the general public, in favor of bespoke chips that compete solely against internal hyperscaler CPUs (e.g.: Amazon Graviton, Google Tensor).

>>184354
Is this photo real? How will they deal with accidental data loss?
What's the OpenWRT equivalent of SImpleWall? im a newfag here and just want to do it on the ISP level rather than messing up system files

>>183418
kek this reminds of that one guy who spent hours troubleshooting the virtIO drivers on plebbit same exact compatibility hell because he accidentally selected the newer version for win7 guest expecting it to work

>>185269
>SMR pretends to be CMR drive
Same i also got a 4tb drive as well some articles say that these units tend to write them transparently undetectable to the OS
How do i get the drive to unhide its SMR features for my jewbuntu system i just want it to work with proper drivers not some firmware hackery
I already formatted it with ext4 do i need to wipe it again just to disable the default CMR mode?

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>>185371
>Is this photo real?
Anon that's an obvious shop.

>>185269
>That will fuck you up if you allow the drive to pretend it's PMR supporting conventional FSs 
What? Just treat it like tape.
tar -czf /path/to/drive /path/to/files

>>185373
>replying to the soyjak nigger

>>185231
The 66XX were trash at mining, people were even trading these cards for the 5600/5700 line, the reason there are a lot of 6600 on the used market is because it was the only good card you could buy for cheap (read: $400 to $500) during COYID, once that shit died down and crypto crashed hard everyone upgraded ASAP and these cards flooded the market ($350+), so everyone with a brain bought a RX 480/580 for $200 instead. Then AMD released the 6650 XT, which was a good 10% faster than the already cheap 6600 XT (itself 10% faster than the RX 6600), for $400, and it made the 6600 even more worthless.

These days you can get one for ~$250 and it's an excellent deal because it's roughly on par with a 1080 Ti while drawing much less power and being much newer. Get one while you still can, because people are going to seek these out in a couple years much like they did the RX 480/580.

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bumping with some OC gore from my previous job that i posted in local terrorist's stream yesterday

>>185472
in order
>dried cat piss on macbook, other guy cleaned it spotless with alcohol but it was too late
>boomer that wanted to destroy the data on his old PC, so he thought the best way to go about this was to rip the socket, CPU, and heatsink from the board and cut some random power cables. drives were untouched
>brilliant display of HP's battery quality control
>hoorah marine thinking he knows how to build a PC, screwed down the NVMe without the riser. it still worked.

>>185474
Was the computer full of CP?

>>185475
no it was full of dust and cobwebs

Anybody knows if simplix is still working?
I tried dragging and dropping the W7 Enterprise ISO on it and it wont recognize it.

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Never a Better Time to Upgrade with Radeon™ Graphics
https://archive.md/tKYAx
AMD's Own Marketing Admits Radeon RX 7900 GPUs Can Lag in Value
https://archive.md/2GlOB
>An AMD marketing effort to pump up its graphics cards has perhaps inadvertently pointed out that the newly launched Radeon RX 7900 GPUs can offer lackluster value compared to the last-generation products.
>This week, AMD published a blog post(Opens in a new window) urging consumers to buy a Radeon GPU. The blog post did so by comparing the frames per second (FPS) across both the Radeon RX 7900 series and last generation’s Radeon RX 6000 line. 
>It’s no surprise that the Radeon RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT cards can offer the highest FPS rates at the highest resolutions. But AMD took things a step further by creating a graph that shows the FPS per dollar for each graphic card.
>The results show the RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT lagging behind the older Radeon RX 6000 series when it comes to this metric. According to the graph, the midrange Radeon RX 6700 XT offers the best FPS-per-dollar value, given its $369 street price.

>>186042
I've heard that it was intentional to sell all the 6000 series stock they've got laying out.

>>186044
Maybe, but the damn things are way to expensive for what they do.

>>186042
Fuck i'm jealous of these prices, here the RX 6750 XT is $700 (shipping costs included), and it's definitely not worth the extra $350 compared to the $350 RX 6650 XT, which itself is a bit overpriced, still damn good value considering it can put out 60fps on high-ultra settings at 1440p on many recent titles.

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I'm tired of running out of memory on my Linux install during playing more demanding vidya, even with zstd-compressed zram configured at more than half of my RAM.
>Ryzen 7 5700X
>16gb DDR4 3600 MT/s CL18
>B550 with ALC1200, because I'm tired of ALC887's random audio crackles and disortions
>some budget 1 TB NVMe SSD at ~3000 MB/s read/write speed.
Would this suffice my ~$400 budget for emulating PS3/Switch (and maybe PS4 in the near future), or do I need to change anything? For reference my current setup consists of:
>i3-6100
>GTX 1060 3GB
>8gb DDR4 2133
>ASRock 110M-HDV

>>186502
Is there even a working PS3 emulator?

>>186502
AFAIK rpcs3 and yuzu devs are optimizing for intel due to avx12 support, but ((( they ))) removed it completely via a BIOS update and then by manufacturing newer batches with said feature disabled from the get go, so unless you're willing to hunt down a brand new MOBO and alder lake CPU from early 2021 i would go with a cheaper R5 5600 instead, as the only ryzens with avx12 support are the 7900 series. Since you're a linuxfag it might be worth selling your current GPU and use the $50-$100 you saved on the CPU to buy a RX 6600, or hell, even a RX 580.

>>186503
https://rpcs3.net/compatibility
>>186505
>AFAIK rpcs3 and yuzu devs are optimizing for intel due to avx12 support, but (((  they  ))) removed it completely via a BIOS update and then by manufacturing newer batches with said feature disabled from the get go, so unless you're willing to hunt down a brand new MOBO and alder lake CPU from early 2021 i would go with a cheaper R5 5600 instead, as the only ryzens with avx12 support are the 7900 series.
Yeah, I know all that, but the DDR5 motherboards cost almost as much as a budget GPU, and they're not gonna drop in price any time soon.
>Since you're a linuxfag it might be worth selling your current GPU and use the $50-$100 you saved on the CPU to buy a RX 6600, or hell, even a RX 580.
I was considering exactly that and buying a used RX 580, because the RX's 6600 price is out of reach for me for now, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea, since I could be buying some cryptotard's used up piece of junk instead. That's one of the reasons why I even thought about the R7 5700X. The second reason was savings on electrical bills. Of course the 5700X won't benefit much in newer vidya (which I don't even play that often), but the higher clock speeds will help in older CPU-starved single-core games.

>>186505
Why would they get rid of an instruction set?

>>186515
According to Intel, Alder Lake's E-cores weren't able to handle AVX-512 well. This might be just one huge bullshit, because AMD wanted to charge a lot more money for it, but I did seen the early benchmarks of Alder Lake CPUs and they indeed had frametime issues in games when compared to AMD's CPUs.

>>186515
Nobody used it except RPCS3, HPC applications and people who were bribed by Shintel to make AMD chips perform worse.

>>186520
Is it normal for a new instruction set to gain widespread adoption in just a few years? It obviously has applications if it improves performance in emulators.

>>186521
AVX512 has been around for about 10 years. The problem is it's basically a power virus with how much silicon it lights up at once, meaning the CPU is forced to downclock to avoid melting itself, which means programs that want to use both AVX and scalar code at the same time (read: all of them outside of a few very narrow applications like physics sims) and up being slower than using AVX256. AMD got around this by just running the 256-bit logic twice, which isn't significantly faster than regular AVX but at least doesn't make the rest of your code slower.

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>>186506
You don't need a DDR5 board though? A B660 and a 12400F are as cheap as a B550 and a 5600.
>used RX 580
Go for it, they're $100 everywhere i look. The 6600 costs slightly more than twice, but it's worth it. If you don't mind dealing with a notoriously problematic card there's also the 5700 XT, ranging from $150 to $200, and you don't have to get it from ebay, aliexpress has them for $160-ish but they're either pink or purple with a anime girl on the backplate.

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>>186524
>AliExpress GPU
it'd be a smarter idea to buy penis enlargement pills off of wish

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>>186527
Anon, we're not in 2010 anymore, aliexpress can get shit to your doorstep within two weeks regardless of country (amazon takes 2 to 5 days just to ship shit from one state to another) and the refund process is easier and faster than amazon's, let's say the 5700 XT you ordered came with a slightly bent bracket, you get your money back while keeping the card.

Maxsun and yeston are well known brands in china and they've been making animu GPUs since forever, latest one was the 7900 XTX.

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>>186530
>trusting the chinese

>>186531
I trust them more than bezos, i've bought plenty of shit from them and i've never been chinked, even with $1 items.

>>186530
fuck off xi hao shang, no amount of cock teasing will get me to buy your yellow gpus

>>186533
Then get it from ebay? All i'm saying is that while the RX 580 is still perfectly fine these days, it's worth spending a little more for a 6600/5700 XT.

>>186524
>You don't need a DDR5 board though?
I meant the newest Ryzen CPUs that need an AM5 socket. I think I'll just save money and buy the next upcoming budget AMD GPU at some point, since it I'll have better support for AI-generated monster girl drawings, as well as hardware AV1 encoding.

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>>186530
>you buy cheap gpu gwailo? only 3 years of 24/7 100% utilization in shitcoin farm, practically brand new!
lmao

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Well, I manage to add more ram on my computer to an autistic 128GB, because its dirty cheap right now. Had some problems like sitting it correctly, to enabling some features in the BIOS to make it run, but thankfully at the end of the day it is running with no problems.

>>186537
They're actually old stock, they also sell a $100 RX 6600 that is actually a repurposed laptop 6600M. Even if you do get a shitcoin GPU you can just refund it, again sometimes you even get to keep the item if they didn't specific it was a miner card.
>>186539
>128GB
4x32GB? And here i thought my 4x8GB 3200MHz was too much. Do you even use it? When i have money to spare i either upgrade my peripherals or storage.

>>186505
>AFAIK rpcs3 and yuzu devs are optimizing for intel due to avx12 support
How big of a difference is between a cpu with avx12 vs one that doesn't have it?
>>186542
>Do you even use it?
Its for blender and VMs.

>>186542
If you think you aren't getting scammed buying directly from chinks it's because you just haven't realized it yet.
>4x8GB
>too much
That's just enough to run a browser these days. I yearn for the days when I could go entirely without page/swap but I'd probably have to go overkill like 128gb-anon if I want to do that again.

>>186544
Stop using jewgle and leaving 50 tabs open for days on end. I have 16GB and don't use more than half of it outside of something crashing really badly or the occasional AAAshit.

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>>186544
>That's just enough to run a browser these days
>have two shitty monitors using hdmi and vga
>3 tabs open
>one with a video playing and the other for shit posting
What the hell are you using?

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>>186548
>10 tabs open in Unjewgled Chromium
>idling at 1.6GB
maybe you're just bad at setting up computers

>>186545
>>186548
I was exaggerating a bit but I can hardly run the hundreds of tabs I used to on a system with half the RAM and no page file. Maybe 10-15 constantly active tabs and a few unloaded on top of normal browsing in unjewgled-chromium with restarts every few days. I ran Palememe a few years ago because it used less memory but it got more and more unstable the more it differentiated itself from Firefox.
The worst games in my experience aren't AAA but, much like browsers, games running on engines with broken garbage collection like Unity and to a lesser degree managed languages in general.

>>186544
>That's just enough to run a browser these days.
What? I have 65 tabs open in Qutebrowser, 45 tabs open in ungoogled chromium and 63 tabs in Brave and if I deduct the size of my zfs ARC I am at about 20Gigs of RAM usage.

>tab hoarders
Get help

>>186560
but muh threads

>>186560
But some of my tabs are from before the coof-times, they'll be worth something at some point just you watch.

>>186543
>How big of a difference is between a cpu with avx12 vs one that doesn't have it?
AVX-512* 
It depends.
https://whatcookie.github.io/posts/why-is-avx-512-useful-for-rpcs3/

>>186564
>my cpu has AVX2 support
Well, I can emulate, I just need to buy a fucking gpu card.

>>186564
garbage
those instructions make the cpu downclock (on instruction) and slow down every other port thats not executing autism instructions 
thats why incel abandoned it thers no point being able to do 50% more of the vector instructions when every other scalar instruction that executes along side is slowed down, 512 is an idiotic size and incel have the compatibility tism so there has to be 31 of these ovens never going to work and if it does its literally just seconds before the shit throttles down and whatever gains you thhink you got are lost when you start doing normal instructions

>>186581
AVX2 is something different and more common.

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AMD is ‘undershipping’ chips to keep CPU, GPU prices elevated
https://archive.md/3nHWI
>So why aren’t CPU and GPU prices falling too? In a call with investors Tuesday night, CEO Lisa Su confirmed that AMD has been “undershipping” chips for a while now to balance supply and demand
>“We have been undershipping the sell-through or consumption for the last two quarters,” Su said, as spotted by PC Gamer. “We undershipped in Q3, we undershipped in Q4. We will undership, to a lesser extent, in Q1.”
>“We’re continuing to watch each and every day in terms of the sell-through that we’re seeing,” Nvidia CFO Colette Kress said to investors in November. “So we have been undershipping. We have been undershipping gaming at this time so that we can correct that inventory that is out in the channel.”
AMD and Nvidia kiking, surprising noone.

>>186544
Maybe on windows, i was getting by just fine on a X220 running linux with just a 2x4GB setup, but to be fair i never have more than 20 tabs open at a time, even on my desktop computer. If you're the kind of person who has 100+ tabs open at all times instead of just bookmarking everything important, i suggest you use tab session manager and auto tab discard.
>>186607
Didn't the 5900X retail at $500? This is a $100 increase, is it the 3D cache? Regardless, why would anyone buy this shit when a X570, 5800X3D and 32GB of DDR4 3600MHz RAM will cost them less than a equivalent AM5 MOBO and DDR5 RAM alone?

>>186607
>a corporation wants to earn money
I am truly shocked.

>>186622
The funny thing is nyidia is actually in the more defensible position here, since they massively overproduced for the crypto bubble as it burst and the distributors were fucking pissed because they had bought warehouses full of crap that they would then be forced to dump at pennies on the dollar. Rumor has it Ingram Micro (distro for every big box store left in the US and a lot of online sellers, Micro Center is their retail outlet) demanded they do something to sell down the remaining stock of Turing cards or any Ada shipments would be left to rot on the docks. Meanwhile the narrative with AMD was always that they were selling everything they could make.

>>186621
>why would anyone buy this shit
What is it anon? You don't want to consume the new shiny thing?

>>186621
How will you dab on the poorfags if you don't have the best shti?

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>>186544
>>186545
I leave way too many tabs open but 2x4+2x8 is enough to play vidya and have a ramdisk mounted, all at the same time. Maybe just don't use a modern OS.

Since were talking about browsers should i stick to the snap version of ungoogled chromium or force install the normal deb version? What's the difference between the two? And why does firefox use snap as well by default on jewbuntu?
Can somebody tell me the advantages of snap? Help me decide i dunno if the former will eat up more ram and why are there weird loop devices on lsblk?

>>186662
>snap
brokedick systemdicks-dependent piece of shit that doesn't even work. use appimages instead.
https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/

>>186663
also install this to make appimages integrate with the system better
https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher

>>186539
Fuck im so jealous man where the hell did you buy so much ram? I really need some ddr5 for newer shintel processors
>its for VMs
same here pal but with wangblows guests instead also my config is just 2x32 ddr4

>>186665
>where the hell did you buy so much ram?
www.newegg. com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374003?Item=N82E16820374003
Bought a pack when it was 250 shekels, then another pack when it was 150 shekels.

Anything to watch out for when buying multi-mode fiberoptic cables?

>>186820
You're unironically better off asking questions like that on a place like servethehome. As a rule anons don't have the means or need for anything beefier than 2.5GbE over twisted pair. Most I can tell you is make sure whatever you get is bend-insensitive and to avoid chinky SFP+ modules as I've heard they have a bad habit of melting whatever enclosure they're in without having a fan blowing directly on them.

>>186662
Snap is a piece of shit that makes everything slower for no good reason. There's a reason why the Linux Mint guys completely removed from their distribution.

removed it*

>>186662
Snap is basically an attempt to recreate the windows installer method of installing programs to your computer because the terminal and package managers are 2spooky for normies. The only reason I would use it is if theres literally no option in the repo for your distro including adding a new source and you're unwilling or too retarded to install from source code.

While we're on the subject of RAM
>>186542
>3200MHz
>>186524
>DDR5
I'd heard that early Zen CPUs were badly hobbled by bad RAM. How important are RAM throughput/latency to Zen 2/3?

>>186531
>>186537
Anon, literally everything in your computer is chingchong, just cut out the middleman.

>>186622
>earn
I don't think colluding to fix prices with your sole "competitor" in your de-facto duopoly sector for massive inflation while lying about doing it for years, then continuing to do that when every one of your supposed justifications evaporated, counts as "earning" money.

>>186662
>should i stick to the snap version of ungoogled chromium or force install the normal deb version?
Install via your package manager, always. In the case of Ubuntu, you'll have to add Google's APT repo manually:
https://www.geekersdigest.com/how-to-install-google-chrome-from-apt-repository/
NEVER use pseudo-containerization such as Snap if you can possibly help it, also avoid manually installing Debs or from source manually because it's a pain in the ass to update a bazillion things by hand and your system will become an outdated dumpsterfire.
>why does firefox use snap as well by default on jewbuntu?
Because Ubuntu's creator, Canonical, is attempting to kill their APT package manager and related PPA system. That campaign might go upstream to Debian, so unless dissident forks like Mint can save APT, it might be best to jump ship to another distro family, such as OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
>Can somebody tell me the advantages of snap?
It bypasses some compatibility issues on Linux for faster software releases to multiple versions of Linux, but it also causes more compatibility issues of its own, isn't secure, is extremely bloated, doesn't fix Linux's underlying "dependency hell" problem that BSD/MacOS/Windows/etc. all solved decades ago, and will ultimately destroy Linux if they become popular enough. Same for Flatpak & AppImage which are also 1000% cancer.

See the following thread: >>>/tech/4739

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>>187341
>this entire post
>that entire thread
AppImage is the least worst solution if you absolutely need to distribute a compiled binary that depends on anything other than libc and Mesa, but that's only for proprietary niggerware and jailbroken forks of shit with deliberately broken build systems like chromium.

>>187354
>AppImage is the least worst solution
Barf, that's worse than a chroot. Best solution is probably a cross-distro package manager that actually fixes the underlying problem, like Nix. But it isn't very popular at the moment.

>>187341
>How important are RAM throughput/latency to Zen 2/3?
I haven't seen any restrictions on RAM for Zen3. The only thing I remember is that Zen3 gets a minor boost in performance if you use 4 sticks instead of 2.

>>187361
how
cpus look ahead for memory access and do a prefetch long before the memory is even needed, they do everything to avoid ram thats the whole point of the cache and if it has to get something from ram it takes an entire chunk instead of just one value just to avoid having to go back for something in the same region 
it hates ram so much it has a cache for the cache and another to share with friends just so they dont have to talk with that loser

>>187372
>how
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQ&t=1290
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9IY_KlkQK1Q
I think these are what anon is talking about, especially the first.

I vaguely recall a few things. Ryzen works better with fast ram due to infinity fabric. Another thing was Ryzen likes B-die ram. Something like that.

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>>187390
did anyone benchmark with apb disabled, using only 2 sticks could be tripping a shitty algorithm

>>187341
You heard wrong, early zen CPUs (Zen, Zen+, Zen 2) worked just fine with slow RAM (ie 2666MHz), but Zen 3 and Zen 4 are way different, a 5800X3D using 3200MHz RAM (the bare minimum for a decent machine) can see up to a 20% increase in performance by simply moving to 3600MHz RAM and up, latency matters a lot as well, for 3600MHz you want CL18, otherwise 3200MHz CL16 can outperform it while costing less, then there's the matter of dual channel and dual rank, ideally you'd buy RAM kits, as buying one stick today then another the next week can't guarantee you'll be getting identical sticks (to enable dual channel/rank, however Zen 2 was special in that using different RAM sticks can cause your CPU to shit itself and refuse to boot up), even if they're the exact same brand, model and have the same specs.

>>187341
>their APT package manager
Nigger, apt is Debian.
Ubuntu is based on Debian.

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Is there any reason my 1070 max q wont boost in W7? The drivers seem to be functioning. Just gimped compared to on Linux

>>187852
sirs,
   have you try turn off and turn on
thenk you for query

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>>187853
Funny thing is if I reset the video renderer or whatnot while its running the frames do pick back up for a while.

Motherboard Shipments Plummet by Ten Million Units in 2022: Report
https://archive.md/RWim5
Taiwan motherboard brands see drastic decline in combined shipments in 2022
https://archive.md/yqseg

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>>187852
>W7
LOL
>le epic gaymur lappy
DOUBLE LOL
The guide for the final (474.11) W7 driver version's control panel sez there should be a control exactly like the current proprietary Linux driver's "PowerMizer" control, which should be set to "prefer maximum performance" when you're ready for your notebook to roast your nuts.

If it works like the Linux driver, that setting should almost immediately lock the GPU's graphics/memory/processor to their full stock clocks until you choose another setting. Other more dynamic settings may be adequate depending on how well behaved your applications are.

>>187922
>The guide for the final (474.11)
Yeah that one doesn't work at all, I'm using 471.11

>>187926
>that one doesn't work at all
Update your driver, update your OS to 6.1.7601.24499.

What's a good optically clear adhesive for repairing anti-semitic CFW'd phones with removeable batteries and no DRM installed on the digitizer?
Does it have to cure via UV?

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>>187987
gorilla glue fix everything

>>187997
drink my gorilla goo

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>>187950
But I already used simplix and SDI.
Is there something else I'm missing?

>>187998
gorilla poo

>>188049
>Is there something else I'm missing?
Look at your computer properties and see what version Windows reports itself as. For GPU drivers in particular, it may be necessary to run Wagnardsoft DDU before installing any.

To get back to your original problem, consulting the PDF guide for your older 471.11 Windows driver, it lists the same control I described. Does adjusting it cause your GPU to reclock itself as intended?

>>188049
>Is there something else I'm missing?
An actual PC.

>>188074
Hopefully anon has some practical reason to use a notebook

>>187631
>can see up to a 20% increase in performance by simply moving to 3600MHz RAM and up
Thanks for letting me know this.
I was going to start buying the parts for a ~250$ upgrade and was looking at cheaper ram to stay within budget.

>>188051
gorilla jew

AMD Has Not Released A New Radeon Driver For RDNA 2 “Radeon RX 6000” GPUs In 2 Months
https://archive.md/SibtO
AMD Software Adrenalin 23.2.1 Released: Finally Updates for RX 6000 Series and Older
https://archive.md/zwhhk
>The drivers also introduce IREE compiler using MLIR interface on Vulkan, and a handful of new Vulkan API extensions. The drivers also catch up on the past two months of optimizations that were only released for the RX 7000 series
>Known Issues
>Application crash may be observed while opening Premium Gold Packs in EA SPORTS FIFA 23.

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PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent
https://archive.md/iQGV8
>While the board has reached end-of-life status at ASUS internally, the company's customers are only just starting to face problems. The board's unique selling point is that it comes with an optional CrossChill EK III hybrid VRM thermal solution, which is effectively a waterblock for your VRMs to keep them cool at all times. Based on ASUS's official advertisement of "nickel-plated" and EK's involvement, everybody assumed that the material used is nickel-plated copper, but it turns out it's something different, most probably nickel-plated aluminium.
>Mixing metals in a watercooling loop is a bad idea and will result in galvanic corrosion from the different electrochemical potential of the metals.

>>183123 (OP) 
>tfw my keyboard is starting to look like that
I really wish I didn't get so autistically attached to my possessions.

>>188343
and?
the blocks are still there and will be for the next century, has zero impact on them sucking up heat 
pointless soy bitching

>>188355
Wrong that shit will start to clog the fins and other small sections

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>>188355
>This can result in the block etching off and flakes/chunks getting in the loop to create an increasingly worse reaction with the coolant used. This can lead to blocked channels and even pump failure due to the corroded materials jamming the impeller.

>>188343
>can
come back when it happens you naive autist, ill be at b9, 22nd mollusc avenue, mars

>>188357
meant for  ^
>>188362
stop range banning

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>>188362
>>188363
Point is when you have anything built to squirt water around inside your electronics, you need that perfectly tight.

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>friend asks me to look at his gaymer PC
>running into random crashes, Nvidia errors, etc.
>he's tried just about everything, it all points to GPU issues
>RMA'd card, most likely all they did was take it out, poke around with it, then send it back saying it was OK because everything is still broke
>apparently the whole line of 3080s have had capacitor/power issues
He's now asking me for help on what card I suggest. I don't play modern vidya and haven't researched anything since I built my rig four years ago. I am inclined to suggest an RX 6800, any other ideas?
Rest of his specs:
>Ryzen 9 5900X
>MSI RX 3080 12GB
>32GB RAM
>AORUS something motherboard (I warned against it but it was too late)

>>188523
Used 3090 :^)

>>188343
>Mixing metals in a watercooling loop is a bad idea and will result in galvanic corrosion from the different electrochemical potential of the metals.
This is because all these water cooling fags want clear loops.
Just get some Dowfrost HD and follow the instructions.

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>>188530
>tiny metal flakes rolling around in mechanical parts isn't a problem

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>>188523
Why are seals so cute?

>>188531
Proper coolants have an effective corrosion inhibitor package as well as anti-microbial additives.
I run dowfrost HD in shitty chink loops with bare copper and aluminium, yet have none of the corrosion problems water cooling fags have.

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>>188523
my friend might be wrong, just played through a whole level of Density 2 without any issues. maybe it was a level he already played before and he was drastically overleveled but it was really fucking easy, final boss was something like "Queztocoatl Rrajigar, Eighth Shepherd of the Dark Herds of Murderous Darkness through Eternal Salvation" or something like that but after a dozen point blank railgun and shotgun blasts he was kill. Halo-style health regeneration made fights easy as long as you don't rush out like a retard. Am I just this good at vidya or is modern vidya just bad?

>>188535
If you really want to help him then uninstall all the shitty games like that he has and put some real vidya on that PC.

>>188536
it's a clean install, destiny 2 is all that's on there. he has lots of other vidya though

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>>188523
>>AORUS something motherboard (I warned against it but it was too late)
Is there something bad about AORUS motherboards?  I bought one a while ago and haven't gotten around to installing it, but it seemed fine and I didn't hear about any endemic problems.
>>188535
>Am I just this good at vidya or is modern vidya just bad?
Destiny and Destiny 2 are based on theme park MMO mechanics which ensures you cannot lose if you are high enough level and you cannot win unless you have grinded enough.  They literally use psychological tricks (beyond the usual "numbers going up makes people feel good") to make their players into addicts and wireheads.

>>188523
If he was able to prove that his card was malfunctioning and they accepted to RMA it then it's illegal for them to just send it back as it is, they should have either refunded the purchase or sent a new one, tell your friend to pester them until they give him a new one, then sell it on ebay for $600 or so. Anyway, if your friend was cool with spending 1k on a 3080 i'm going to assume he bought it last year then i doubt he'd see anything wrong with a ~$700 6950 XT, this thing trades blows with the 7900 XTX and the 4090 while costing way, way less.
>AORUS something motherboard
What is wrong with this, exactly? I had an Aorus B450 Pro Wifi for the longest time, then i upgraded to a MSI X570 Gaming Edge because it was bundled with a 5700X3D, and it never gave me any issues, for comparison the Asrock B550M Steel Legend i bought first just fucking died after three months of use and i wasn't able to refund it on amazon, i never got any response from Asrock either, so i lost $200 on that shit and swore to never buy from them ever again.

>>188541
>>188543
From what I remember Aorus was only a step above Biostar for budget-tier motherboards. I've always bought MSI and had no issues with them, after the first motherboard I bought (Assrock) died a few months after I bought it.
As for the RMA, it came back with a note saying "Tested OK" which didn't answer any questions and means they probably just put it through their basic bitch stress testing to filter out the "we don't want to fix this" cards that come in.

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>>188523
>running into random crashes
>nvidia
What are the odds of being the PSU not being able to handle the retarded spikes of power the 3080 pulls sometimes?
What PSU is he using?
>>188535
>my friend might be wrong, just played through a whole level of Density 2 without any issues
OK, now I know it must be the PSU that can't handle the gpu.

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>>188523
Have you two tried physical process of elimination?

Swap each major component of the misbehaving PC, piece by piece, into another known-good PC, and use appropriate stress bench software (e.g., for the GPU, use FurMark for a few minutes to test your cooler, and Unigen for a couple hours for sustained performance, watching for overheating, visual glitches, or crashes) on both PCs to isolate the malfunctioning component.

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Still doing testing, it's playing every game without any issues whatsoever. All I've done was install the Novidya drivers with a clean install. Destiny 2 plays fine, Ready or Not plays fine open door, die instantly, such fun, wow, the only other "fix" I've done was convert his disk to GPT so I could enable UEFI. There's not a damn thing wrong with this PC. I'll take it back to his place this weekend and see if there's some environmental issue with it, maybe he has something hooked up wrong, no idea.

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>>188070
After rerunning simplix and meddling with both main and gpu power options it seems like boositng was working fine.
I'm just retarded.
Thanks for the help anon.
Have something I recently dug out from my old rig.
>>188074
Fuck you I wanna do that so bad but I have to keep moving because of this shitty job.

>>188749
>only other "fix" I've done was convert his disk to GPT so I could enable UEFI
Microsoft included "bugs" that purposely  crashed his machine because UEFI wasn't enabled.

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Where are the AMD, RX 7800, RX 7700, and RX 7600 GPUs? well they’re delayed to 618
https://archive.md/VzlSO
>The high stock that is currently in place, despite the fact that shipments were low, is the perfect scenario so that neither AMD, nor NVIDIA, nor Intel are in a hurry to launch new models, in short, they are not sold. Could But then where are the PC’s RX 7800, RX 7700 and RX 7600? Because barring the last two, the first one should arrive as soon as possible to cover the RTX 4070 in sales… or maybe not.
>Therefore, both the RX 7800, as well as the RX 7700 and RX 7600 on PC, will arrive at a very close and specific point, event 618, to be specific. And what exactly is it? It is one of the biggest e-commerce events in China in the first half of the year and usually takes place between April and June each year.
>There is a lot of speculation about the cause to this date, with possible problems with the Navi 32 and Navi 33 chips also speculated to be due to poor performance, which will have to be compensated for by, it is claimed, very well optimized drivers and , perhaps, with higher frequencies and consumption.
The wait continues.
Is there a reason to buy the new shit? I mean feature wise, I know that the new AMD CPUs give a nice boost in emulation, but what about GPUs?

>>189108
delayed to 618? when is that? is that like a new calendar standard?

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>>189108
Why are you thirsting after overpriced and untested hardware?

>>189108
>>189110
It should bring down the prices on the 6700 XT/6800 XT

>>189108
Speaking of new GPUs, haven't newer started implementing checks that prevent them from running on anything before wangblows 10? I remember hearing about something like that years ago, but it may have just been rumors.

>>189108
>Is there a reason to buy the new shit? I mean feature wise, I know that the new AMD CPUs give a nice boost in emulation, but what about GPUs?
New AMD GPUs will have AI acceleration, AV1 hardware encoding support, and maybe better ray-tracing performance.

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>>189110
>thirsting
>implying
>>189109
Its a the chink version of black friday.
>>189114
>AI acceleration
>AV1 hardware encoding
Will there be a huge difference in performance between the 7000 vs 6000 gpus? I don't give a fuck about ray-tracing.

>>189114
new ones also have video game acceleration and graphics support maybe even render support

>>189110
>overpriced
Aside from what >>189111 said about older models, if manufacturers swallow their pride and accept they will have to roll out new hardware before the old stock is anywhere close to clearing from channels at current MSRP, new models will drop back down to sane prices.

>>189117
>Will there be a huge difference in performance between the 7000 vs 6000 gpus?
I don't know, anon. The product is not out there yet. We'll all see once they finally come out and get properly reviewed.

>>189134
>if manufacturers swallow their pride and accept they will have to roll out new hardware before the old stock is anywhere close
They will do everything they can to sell high, the goyim doesn't deserve mercy. Is it just me or there is a lot of news about the "dangers" on buying used GPUs?

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>>189192
I think they might not have a choice, it's still too large a part of their revenue to abandon. Nah, that's just consoomer sheeple consooming sheepishly like they always have: "oh noes, teh GPU I paid 1/4 of MSRP for failed after the 3-month return window expired, I guess I'll have to cry myself to sleep on the pile of money I saved even after buying another one.

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>>189245
Well, luckily the normalfags didn't consume the 4080 like good goys and since everybody and their mother have an upgraded computer in their home over the last 2 years, this blackfriday will be the perfect time to upgrade my R9 280.

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>>189108
>The high stock that is currently in place, despite the fact that shipments were low, is the perfect scenario so that neither AMD, nor NVIDIA, nor Intel are in a hurry to launch new models, in short, they are not sold
Then why the fuck are they still priced at 2x MSRP?

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>>189256
Because professional bagholders still haven't given up on trying to cash out, even though the gaming market is essentially saturated. Also, what the hell are you trying to buy that's being scalped at 2x MSRP?

>>189259
6700 xt because I wanted to try team red for once. I don't think I'll get a new gpu before the next cards hit the market.

>>189108
Like brand spankin new? I would wait for brandnew hardware and the bugs to be ironed out. That all depends on your mileage you think you are going to get out of it though. I just bought nicer stuff for once and will ride that out for years at this point which can be nice.

what graphics card should i get if i want to upgrade from a 1060 6gb? I want the card to be quiet.

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>>189256
>Then why the fuck are they still priced at 2x MSRP?
Because they are kikes and they want to squeeze every drop of blood from the goys and so they will wait for the last second to give the goys a discount on gpus and it will sell like shit since the consumers already bought a 4090/7900XTX and any other potential customer already bought used cards from 2 or 3 generations old.
>>189263
>6700 XT
Is that the one you want to buy? That shit is not at 2x MSRP, you ungreatful goy, how dare you! Why aren't you buying it right now!?
Once they finish releasing the 7000 series the 6700/6750 should get another "discount".

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>>189259

>>189271
What is your budget and resolution you are using?

>>189271
Amd has coil whine from my experience. To have to pay the nvidia markup if you don't want that though.

>>189192
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dkWnvcLcSZQ&t=711
dunno about used cards, definitely  should be wary about "new" GPUs

>>189274
If I were to get a 6950 XT would my Ryzen 7 2700 be a bottleneck?

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ordered a nitro+ 6700 for 540 dollars
maybe not the best choice but i really want it because looking at noise tests it seemed to be the lowest of all and i value that. I also didnt want to buy a graphics card with the name "hell" or "devil" in it. I could have paid 50 bucks less for the same card but with a hell name or a something more noisy. Basically it was either between the hell name or nitro+.
Im just making excuses for overpaying. but still.

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>>189329
>I also didnt want to buy a graphics card with the name "hell" or "devil" in it

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>>189329
Oh and needless to say
>I could have paid 50 bucks less for the same card
Or under $300 used

>>189340
>used
I dont want to own something that someone else has owned before. Thats what my current graphics card is and i dont like it. I want my original thing. Something that has belonged to me and me only.

>>189329
hmm now that i look at the same website i couldve gotten a 6750 nitro for 10 dollars more. And that would of atleast been at msrp. I cant cancel the order though.

>>189351
if it hasn't shipped yet you can message the seller and ask them to cancel it, most of them will do so without question

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>>189341
>I dont want to own something that someone else has owned before. Thats what my current graphics card is and i dont like it. I want my original thing. Something that has belonged to me and me only.
It was owned by the retailer before you. Before that it was owned by a distributor. Before that it was owned by an import/export company, and before that the manufacturer.

>>189352
well i did contact the company and they said they already packaged it so they cant cancel it. Whatever.

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>>189329
>>189351
>>189356
Jesus H. Christ, anon you got robbed.
>>189354
Is not the same, anon!

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>>189358
i live in europe. Its more expensive there. Im not just coping... 
the 6700 regular shit brands are at like 500 dollars. So i paid a little extra for this brand. So what? I dont feel ripped off. I didnt work for this money. This is neetbux.

>>189337
>t. listens to rock music unironically

>>189329
Is that the sapphire brand? I think you got the same one as me for around the same price. I snagged mine right when the prices dropped because I wasn't sure they were going to stay low.  It's worked for me so far. Has coil whine though sometimes.

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>>189362
Only the Good™ stuff

>>189375
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, >>>/fascist/ is two doors down

>>189375
>shit nobody cares about as D&D replacement
>not Pendragon or MERP
You sicken me.
>>189378
Nah /fascist/ is more interested in being LARPagans, though they may bond with /islam/ over their shared love of splitting toddlers in half with their dicks.

>>189375
dragonraid looks pretty cool ngl

>>189379
Only said that because if its one thing /fascist/ loves, its spitting on and actively hurting Christians rather than bonding with them. Kind of like Varg who would burn down churches all day but do nothing against mosques or temples.

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>>189385
Pretty sure mosques and temples get burned for being foreign, not for hailing Odin the Dick-Sucker or whatever. In any case the point is irrelevant as the kind of christcucks responsible for all the "X but we put a cross and the word G-d on it" crap are the main reason why we haven't had a good holy war in ages and will be getting a one-way ticket to Sheol for that alone.

What are the recommended gpus brands? I have locked down into 3 options, 2 really, since ASUS is so fucking expensive, so I'm between XFX or Sapphire its nice that I can replace the fans without taking the whole card apart.
>>189360
>This is neetbux.
You lucky cunt!
>>189375
>dragonraid
I always wanted to know if there was a tabletop rpg that wasn't full of pozzed shit.

>>189393
XFX is good, I had one for years before it cooked to death but that's my fault. MSI tends to be the budget brand with jet turbines for fans and concerningly high operating temps. Sapphire should be good as well.

>>189400
Seconding XFX. When they RMA'd my card, they replaced it with one two generations newer.

>>189373
>Is that the sapphire brand
yeah
>I think you got the same one as me for around the same price
atleast im not alone.

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>>183147
>>183270
ok

>>189432
Jesus Christ, how do you live with that boot time?

>>189436
>2 minutes
Is not that bad.

>>189436
it was slower than usual since I haven't used it in a while and it needed updates
https://legacyupdate.net/

Quick keyboard review (that nobody asked for)
Micro$oft Wired Keyboard 600  (it costs around 18€ or 20€)
The build quality sucks (I looked at some online reviews. Some units are defect and start inputting keys on its own). Thankfully the unit I got is fine. The keys  are also lacking solid feel. But on the plus side, the keyboard is quiet and it has  "special" keys (multimedia keys, keys for adjusting the volume and even a key for launching the calculator program. There are also some Windows specific keys that can be accessed using the Fn key). If you do not care about those extra keys, I recommend instead getting a cheap e.g. Logitech or other equivalent. I previously used some cheap HP OEM keyboard and it was much better (both the feel and build quality) than the M$ one (but it didn't have the "special" keys, unfortunately). 


>>189393
>XFX or Sapphire
Both are good. Sapphire is considered the best manufacturer of AMD GPUs. Asus and MSI are also pretty good. I had bad experience with a GPU made by Gigabyte in the past.

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>>189463
>rubber dome

>>189465
Now you're going to get a swarm of rationalizing poorfags saying mechanical keyboards hurt their fingers and are too loud and cost $800.

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what is it with keyboard autism, been using pic related for years without issue

>>189467
I mean, if you really want to be a lilting lace coifed faggot about keyboards, you should at least stabilize it with scissor action.

>>189468
>i have spent my entire life on an exclusive diet of shit, why would anyone turn their nose up at shit?

>>189470
the difference is i've never paid for a keyboard in my life

>>189471
I guess the last PCs to come with mechanical keyboards were higher-end models in the mid-90s. Back when today's typical mushy rubber dome junk was a major step up from bare membrane keyboards most lower-end micros had built in.

But if you're scavenging old office keyboards, it isn't that hard to lay hands on disused PS/2 keyboards that are actually good.

>>189465
I know. But I needed a cheap keyboard for my HP laptop which has even worse keyboard. What would you recommend for someone who is looking for a cheap keyboard?

>>189476
dig through a dumpster outside an office park, you might even score one of those sweet office chairs if it's not covered in hobo piss