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Thinking of building a new PC?
Want to upgrade?
Don't know what the fuck you are doing?
Ask other anons with dubious PC knowledge to inform you on what to do!

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Build_a_PC
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Laptop_Buying_Guide
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Headphones
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Mice
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https://pcpartpicker.com/ uses Hcaptcha, because fuck you
https://www.logicalincrements.com/
Think I want to build a small emulation machine. Would be nice if it could do up to the wiiu or switch. I'm hoping to keep it a small form factor. Thoughts?
>>163203

Consider using a mister. It only plays up to PS1 era, but it is very small and fairly accurate since it is emulating machine hardware. Somewhat expensive. Or just hack your existing consoles.
https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/
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Anyone here running quad-channel DDR4/5 RAM?
Are there reasonable benefits over a dual-channel setup or is it a meme?
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>>163203
my pc is small form factor (I'd say it's somewhere between the size of a wii and ps3 slim) and can play emulate switch, have not tried wii u, but it should work
12 gb ram (8 minimum for switch emulation)
2 gb vram (this is the main reason why I WOULDN'T recommend small form factor, I got mine cheap but being limited by what size card you can get is a pain)
i5 4 core cpu
if you have a really good cpu you might be able to get away with no vram for switch emulation, since cpu is more important, not sure though
>>163259
i recall it's a meme if you just want to chase framerates, as dual channels is usually better but ram is ram and the difference is very small and even then a lot of people don't upgrade their ram to fill in all of the slots (yes, even to fill in four slots) by the time it happens
>>163203
What is your budget?
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>>163203
why build when you can buy?
>>163307
go away gabe
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>>163307
Maybe version 3.0 will be good.
>>163307
>>163311
Hm. Its a shitpost but its actually not a bad one.
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>>163299
Forgot you,  lets keep it midrange if that helps.
Polite sage for double post.
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>>163307
Mark go back to twitter
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>>163314
You need to pick up a case first, since that is going to limit your components.
>>163313
If you don't mind the downsides, the steam deck should be up your alley.
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Thinking about getting a USB PS2 controller since I've been wanting to play Gaystation games for a long time. Is there a specific brand I should get, a brand I should avoid, or just a cheap transluscent piss-yellow controller off eBay?
>>163583
I have an adaptor for ps2  controllers. Wroks well enoguh.
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I asked in the QTDDTOT thread if it'd be fine to mix RAM sticks if the only difference between them was RGB lights (same brand and specs), and indeed it was, see pic related, HWinfo seems to think all 4 sticks are identical when i've got 2 fury beast black and 2 fury beast black RGB. I traded in my athlon 3000g and paid only $35 for both sticks.

I also asked if the rx 6600 was a good card for $275 (my 1060 is worth $100 so i'd have to pay $175 extra), unfortunately the store jewed up the price and now it's $400, so i think i'll save up until i have about 1k, then i'll consider my options.
>>163583
You'll be fine as long as you stick to brands you recognize and don't buy anything from Amazon.
>>163583
What about this one?
https://www.8bitdo.com/pro2-wired-controller/
>>163599
>400 shekels for a fucking rx 6600
Jesus H. Christ, anon.
>>163599
>unfortunately the store jewed up the price
Same. I was going to wait for a small price drop back when the 6700 xt was going for 300 something bucks, but then normalfags bought it up and it's now going for 1000 dollars due to "limited supply". It's been like 3-4 months and they haven't sold a single unit of their "limited supply", and the store is also selling a 6800 xt for half the price, but they still haven't budged on that thousand bucks.
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>>163231
>fairly accurate
(Almost) perfectly accurate and at rock-solid speed, because...
>it is emulating machine hardware
SIMULATING on the chip level, that's lower than the cycle-level of the best emulators that the fastest PCs still aren't fast enough to run.

On the other hand, even at $100 for an FPGA with enough CLBs to fit a 5th-gen console softcore, that's still a questionable buy for any but the most autistic, when pitted against a $20 ARM SoC that can run 90% of 5th-gen console games better than native in a high-level emulator.

>>163307
Weirdly enough a V2xxx SBC all by itself is double the MSRP of a Steam Deck, which at $400 is about the same price as a V1xxx SBC, and none of Intel's newer Atoms (Tremont onward, in other words 2 gens behind) are available in any hobbyist SBC I'm aware of.

You can of course build a similarly spec'd Mini-ITX desktop for a lot less, since VARs like Valve aren't hoarding normal AM4 APUs.

>>163583
You can also just get a real Sony PS>2 pad with USB. If you want analog face buttons, you'll want a DS3/Sixaxis, goes for $15 on eBay. If you don't mind digital face buttons, DS4 has some extra features like a touchpad, goes for $20 on eBay. DualSense has a some extra force-feedback features and its stick drift isn't a problem on PC since you can calibrate deadzone, goes for $40 on eBay.

>>163599
>rx 6600
>$400
>>163611
>6700 xt
>$1k
I'm seeing prices half those for used/refurb cards on eBay BIN, even lower at auction. Same for team green equivalents (GTX 1080, RTX 2080).

Seriously, NEVER buy new parts.
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>2080
I meant 3080
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>>163618
>paying half of over 2x MSRP for busted up "refurbished" hardware 
I'm willing to wait for a price drop that might never come because I don't want to pay for some random miner faggot's cum and dust filled graphics card. Used goods are for dumb/impulsive poorfags and for when you can't buy new.
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Help me fix this, I'm looking to build a new rig soon

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>>163623
>MSRP
Is a mirage over the foreseeable future. Cryptoponzi's 4-year reign of terror over dGPU prices may have ended a few months ago, but we're still in the middle of a massive supply shock with no end in sight.
>some random miner faggot's cum and dust
Free 30-day return window, plus 2-4 year extended warranty for a pittance if you're wary of a seller. There is no excuse.
>Used goods are for dumb/impulsive poorfags
I have never, ever bought new parts in my entire life. And I was a fucking Macfag from the '80s into the early '00s when they went eunuchs/80x86.

Anybody who buys new parts is a bootlicking corporate cocksucker paying 2x-6x for literally nothing
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>>163626
>I was a fucking Macfag from the '80s into the early '00s
>people past their 50s browse /v/
holy shit this is a board for OLD MEN, pics related a bunch of zzzchan users
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>>163627
Not quite THAT old yet, I'm barely a Millennial.
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>>163626
>Free 30-day return window, plus 2-4 year extended warranty for a pittance if you're wary of a seller.
It's still mystery meat that depending on the part can kill other parts of the system or fuck your install. And I can't afford the two week downtime either even if I would go through with sending stupid shit back and forth in the mail.
>2x-6x for literally nothing
Performance increases and knowing my parts weren't fried for half a decade by some teen or miner. And since I know you'll go
<Small performance increases
It's been incremental since 00 and that's why you wait a couple generations

>>163628
>Late 40s
Holy shit anon, don't you have kids homework to supervise or something?
>>163626
>but we're still in the middle of a massive supply shock with no end in sight
Demand is going down drastically now that crypto mining is dead, nvidia still has a huge stockpile of 30 series chips they absolutely need to use now if they want to get their money back, the used market is flooded with used GPUs (though they're still way above MSRP because of retards like you), and the 40 series is on the horizon. 
Buying now is retarded, specially if you're buying a used card for more than what a new one is worth. 
>warranty
Warranty that may be void depending on the state of the card.
>>163618
>If you want analog face buttons, you'll want a DS3/Sixaxis, goes for $15 on eBay
Most of the "DS3"s floating around are chink copies with digital buttons, including the "refurbished" ones.
If you want one you know is real you pretty much have to get a $100 import straight from nipland because it's the only place they still make them last I checked.
>Seriously, NEVER buy new parts.
I'd never trust some old banged up parts raped for years by some random normalnigger to work properly or last for very long.
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>>163665
I don't get it, new card series means previous gen will be lowered in price yes?
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>>163665
That $899 isn't for a 4080, it's for a 4070 rebadged at the last minute. The actual 4080 is $1200. Also max power for the 4080 is 600W which is more than my entire $800 computer. They must be planning on going all in on miner card FUD to get away with this, or just buying back and crushing all existing Ampere stock in the channel but nyidia is probably too greedy for that.
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>Ctrl+F "EVGA"
>no matches
So you haven't heard the news that EVGA isn't making video cards anymore?
>>163665
Prices are placeholder until launch. Even board partners don't know prices until day of launch. One of the reasons EVGA cited for abandoning Nvidia is not even knowing how much the fucking product is being sold for that they are producing until the last minute.
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>>163670
Only multiple times
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>>163669
>That $899 isn't for a 4080, it's for a 4070 rebadged at the last minute. The actual 4080 is $1200. Also max power for the 4080 is 600W which is more than my entire $800 computer.
>They must be planning on going all in on miner card FUD to get away with this
If that is even remotely true AMD might finally gain a majority in the newly-sold dGPU market for the first time ever provided their RDNA3 cards are priced with the death of mainstream GPU mining taken into account, they could afford deliberately "underpricing" their GPUs for a while due to their highly profitable CPU business whereas Nvidia has no such cushion/fallback thanks to crashing their attempted ARM takeover with no survivors.
Should Nvidia get Gamestopped and die I wonder if Intel will simply move in to replace them or if someone else (PowerVR, renegade EVGA, Soyny, Qualcomm(?), Samsung(?)) might try and leverage RISC-V to make their own ebin dGPU.
>>163625
I would need more details. Is this for gaming? What operating system are you running?
Without knowing those 2 things I would suggest you go with a RAM more suited for gaming. Lower CL and lower Mhz will be faster especially for gaming applications.
Your storage choices seem weird. For only alittle more money you can get like 2 8TB hdds, then just get a 2TB SSD. (which actually doesnt perform much different from the latest meme nvme gen5) but that depends on what you use your computer for. its only noticeable when copying/transfering massive files anything else is negligible.
Personally, i have 2 external HDDs one is 8TB and one is 12TB and my system is on a 2TB sata SSD. 
My 2TB is where i keep my operating system, pictures, and music. My 8TB is where i keep an image of my 2TB and all of my movies, uninstalled games, files. My 12TB is where i keep the full 8TB backed up along with 2 images of my 2TB in addition to the one contained in the image of the 8TB.  The 12TB remains unpowered most of the time.  I used externals because they were the cheapest at the time per GB, but internal would be fine too.
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>>163626
I really don't mind buying new, since we did that since the 90's and the only thing that always broke was windows.
>>163625
>Asus GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB STRIX LC GAMING OC Video Card
>mfw
I don't know what the fuck you were trying to do, but here I fixed it for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6HQ8zf
Dumped the GPU card for a cheaper one, since you don't need to waste that much money on a fucking watercooled 3090 Ti, because a 3080 is more than enough for vidya, if you want to get lower and save watts, the 3070 is good, also the 3060. Used the saved shekels to update everything else.
Better CPU, because since its the end of the line for AM4, better get the 5950X for efficiency and power. Dumped your DDR4-4400 ram because its fucking retarded, you only need DDR4-3600. The storage is just a suggestion.
All parts sizes will fit in that case, even added a fan, so you can mount it on the top of the case.
Just be careful with the motherboard, if its BIOS not updated to get the new 5000s amd cpus, you will need to get an old cpu to update it.
From $2777.12	to $2590.00, if you are itching to spend those 187.12, you should buy a Sabrent 2TB ROCKET NVMe and use that to put all your files and shit, so that you can use the 10TB as cold storage.
Double check if everything fits the case.
>>163625
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/86Y4JM
What's your maximum budget?

>Western Digital HDDs
Why not buy Toshiba HDDs instead. I have multiple Toshiba HDDs and none has failed so far (after 4 years of use).

>Fractal Design Meshify 2
I would get Fractal Design Focus G instead because it's a little bit cheaper but still great case.

>AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
It depends on your budget but I think AMD Ryzen 5 5600 is good enough. Use https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/ to compare them. Also, AMD Ryzen 5 5600 comes with a cooler that's actually good.

>G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) CL19
I would get G.Skill 32GB (2 x 16GB) Ripjaws V, DDR4 3200MHz, CL16 instead. Honestly, getting the 2x8GB RAM set would be plenty enough (but it depends on your use-case, I guess).
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>>163673
The problem is between them AMD and Nvidia own all the patents needed to make a competitive GPU and cross-license the less critical (or more obviously invalid) patents between themselves and Intel. This is why Apple's iWhatevers have mediocre graphics support, they're working off of the leftovers from the PowerVR days. They sure as shit aren't going to be lowering that barrier to entry without a court order.
>>163673
>Nvidia has no such cushion
Compered to server and workstation GPUs, Nvidia makes practically nothing on consumer GPUs.
>>163680
Even a 3080 is overkill and chains you to garbage software. Unless you're making money off of CUDA, get an RX6600 and you're more than fine.
>>163680
>you will need to get an old cpu to update it.
I thought you can nowadays update the UEFI firmware without a CPU?

>https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#kf
>Q-Flash Plus: update BIOS Without Installing CPU, Memory and Graphics card.
I know for a fact that Asus/my motherboard has a similar feature, too.
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>>163691
Oh, I didn't know that, that is a nice feature.
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>>163673
Anon you dummy, they're making a metric fuckton of money from their A100s and server shit.
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>>163700
>Has the Inflation Scheme© gone as planned?
>Yes Master
<DEPLOY IT
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>>163703
Oh fuck, I just realized who's truly behind this.
>>163713
God I fucking love this image
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>>163715
>>163713
There was an even better one where the chick is sitting down and the fat retard can be seen staring at them from a distance.
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>>163703
>>163713
Who is that bitch anyway? The current speculation on namefag forums is that these prices aren't just hyperinflation but Nvidia intentionally pricing Ada above what the market will bear so they can """discount""" to 5% below AMD after the RX7000 is out and the six gorillion Ampere cards have worked their way out of the inventory pool.
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>>163726
Newfag
>>163713
post the comic
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>>163726
You're getting spoonfed nigger. Have a gander at this.
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>>163722
that's the one I was thinking of, does anyone else have it?
>>163732
>ywn be dobson
feels good
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>>163732
lol
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>>163761
it can't be him in both of these, can it?
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>>163762
It is, he's part of the "we nerds" cancerous scene 2 decades ago that evolved into this SJW shit.
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>>163765
so they somehow managed to take a pic of the same girl at two different conventions in the exact same area where dobson also was
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>>163765
also
>>163769
It's the same girl in the same convention  retard.
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>>163769
No, the second one is an obvious shoop of him, the lighting on him doesn't fit and you can't even see his feet.
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>>163774
good point, thanks for pointing out my retardation
>>163762
Dobson isn't in the first picture, and the second is obviously photoshopped.
>>163765
>video
Doesn't he eat at mcdonalds? Like every fucking day?
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>>163678
>Is this for gaming?
/v/ - Video Gaems
>What operating system are you running? 
Figured I'd go with that stripped down version of w10
>Without knowing those 2 things I would suggest you go with a RAM more suited for gaming. Lower CL and lower Mhz will be faster especially for gaming applications.
I thought bigger MHz number meant faster
>Your storage choices seem weird. For only a little more money you can get like 2 8TB hdds, then just get a 2TB SSD.
I'm paranoid and terrified of drive failures and losing all my shit in one go so I'd much rather pay more for multiple smaller drives and expand later which is why I went with a case with a lot of drive slots.
>>163680
>I don't know what the fuck you were trying to do
Why, play some video games, of course.
>Dumped the GPU card for a cheaper one, since you don't need to waste that much money on a fucking watercooled 3090 Ti, because a 3080 is more than enough for vidya, if you want to get lower and save watts, the 3070 is good, also the 3060. Used the saved shekels to update everything else.
>Better CPU, because since its the end of the line for AM4, better get the 5950X for efficiency and power.
I looked at several benchmarks and having a better CPUs doesn't seem to matter as much as having a better card, neither does having all those extra cores when games are never optimized for multi core. Putting more money into a workstation tier CPU I won't get much use for seems like the exact opposite of what I'd want to do, considering the actual performance boost  would be marginal.
>Just be careful with the motherboard, if its BIOS not updated to get the new 5000s amd cpus, you will need to get an old cpu to update it.
That was one of my main worries, but I picked one of the most recent I figured it wouldn't have that issue. Isn't there one that comes ready to go?
>From $2777.12 to $2590.00
I don't care much about cutting corners as much as I do about ensuring I get the most out of the money and everything's smooth as baby's ass cheeks with as few complications possible, even if it means paying extra. I could get a setup twice as overkill as this one if I felt like it, but at the same time,  wasting like 2 extra grand for an overall 5% improvement is just plain retardation. I specifically chose to go for very high performance without wasting stupid money, and in this case putting more money in the CPU rather than the GPU seems like a wrong budget allocation.
>>163684
>What's your maximum budget?
I'd like to keep it in that ballpark so think around 3k
>Why not buy Toshiba HDDs instead. I have multiple Toshiba HDDs and none has failed so far (after 4 years of use).
I just picked what had good reviews, specs and a decent price tag, I'm not exactly experienced with any brand in particular and I'm no WD fanboy. If you say Toshiba is better I'll look into that.
>I would get Fractal Design Focus G instead because it's a little bit cheaper but still great case.
I picked that one because it has a shitload of space, several drive slots, usb c and looks great to boot. I don't know the Focus G specs, I'll look into that but I'm guessing that if as you say "it's cheaper" it can't bemore than like 20-30 bucks difference, which is literally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
>It depends on your budget but I think AMD Ryzen 5 5600 is good enough
Yeah my original plan was to go with the 5600, as I figured the 5800x would somewhat overkill, but it was just 100 bucks for 3 tiers up, I figured why not
>I would get G.Skill 32GB (2 x 16GB) Ripjaws V, DDR4 3200MHz, CL16 instead. Honestly, getting the 2x8GB RAM set would be plenty enough (but it depends on your use-case, I guess).
Read my other reply. Should I just find a kit that has both lower latency and fast speeds? I thought clock speeds mattered more to get the most out of Ryzen CPUs.
>>163857
>stripped down version of w10
That's for VMs you don't connect to the internet. There is no really stripped down version of botnet 10 because the DRM and NSAware is baked directly into the kernel, complete with a TCP/IP stack and hardcoded DNS in case you thought had an out there. Install gentoo or kill yourself, there is no excuse anymore.
>I thought bigger MHz number meant faster
It's only better up to around DDR4-3600, after that the memory controller becomes the bottleneck unless you overclock, and overclocking that tends to do bad things for stability.
>I'm paranoid and terrified of drive failures and losing all my shit in one go
Then backup your shit, you fucking goon. Cold storage (assuming it's on an HDD and you're not microwaving it or something) will always be safer than multiple copies on the same system that a bug, power failure or troon script kiddie hacking your shit can destroy at the same time.
>I specifically chose to go for very high performance without wasting stupid money
Anything more than $1k is wasting stupid money in my opinion, not including peripherals or data hoarder storage of course. Good video games don't need "very high performance" and unless you're building the Frankenstein gangster computer god in your bedroom or doing geological surveys or some shit, neither does anything else you're doing.
>If you say Toshiba is better I'll look into that.
In my experience all of them are equally terrible at this point. As long as you buy enterprise or at least non-SMR NAS drives you're fine. Don't buy "consumer" drives unless noise is a priority, they're all SMR floor sweepings that failed QA so they're more likely to fail the day after the warranty expires and have inferior performance. Plus the $/TB gap isn't what it used to be, especially if you're burger and have access to CDW's B-stock outlet. Shucked WD externals are good too but mainly for data hoarder purposes, not something you're going to be hammering on a regular basis.
>>163857
>I looked at several benchmarks and having a better CPUs doesn't seem to matter as much as having a better card, neither does having all those extra cores when games are never optimized for multi core. Putting more money into a workstation tier CPU I won't get much use for seems like the exact opposite of what I'd want to do, considering the actual performance boost  would be marginal.
That's because you fell for the AMD meme, eternally behind in STP. A new i5 would outperform these picks at less cost.
>I specifically chose to go for very high performance without wasting stupid money, and in this case putting more money in the CPU rather than the GPU seems like a wrong budget allocation.
Unless you're doing something retarded like gayming on 4k all these GPU picks are stupid wastes of money.
>HDDs
Hitachi/HGST used to be very reliable, don't know if thar's still true after the WD integration.
>I picked that one because it has a shitload of space
Get a full tower instead, thank me later.
>I thought clock speeds mattered more
Latency matters more except in the few cases where you're reading large amounts of data from memory at once.
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>>163857
>HDDs
Just make sure to get CMR models with sane head parking/load cycle behavior, preferable those that only unpark their head at boot and park it at shutdown.
Drives that park their heads during "inactivity" or at complete random are designed to deliberately wear themselves down and should be avoided like the plague.
>>163862
>Don't buy "consumer" drives unless noise is a priority, they're all SMR floor sweepings that failed QA so they're more likely to fail the day after the warranty expires and have inferior performance.
Aren't most recent consumer HDDs CMR?
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>>163863
>Shintel
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>>163869
>all of the logos blurred
Y
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>>163862
>Install gentoo or kill yourself
Those are the same thing. I tried installing Gentoo and it too has spyware built into the system. I tried using use flags to prevent the package manager from pulling it in but then it just stopped me from installing most software.
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>>163871
Idiots think you can be sued for just showing a logo in your joke video
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>>163866
>AMD now on 7nm and lower
>still lagging behind in STP
I'd rather go with jewtel every day of the week than trust AMD to do anything properly after Bulldozer/Piledriver.
I hope you enjoy spending more money for less STP.
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>>163874
>more money
What lol
AMD has always been budget
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>>163876
Not since they started catching up enough in STP to trick normalfags.
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>>163857
>and in this case putting more money in the CPU rather than the GPU seems like a wrong budget allocation.
Well, the 5950X is cheap for what it does, I do believe that having a strong CPU that sits there forever and swapping the GPU now and then would be better.
>I looked at several benchmarks and having a better CPUs doesn't seem to matter as much as having a better card, neither does having all those extra cores when games are never optimized for multi core. Putting more money into a workstation tier CPU I won't get much use for seems like the exact opposite of what I'd want to do, considering the actual performance boost  would be marginal.
Well, if you don't want to unzip your games on the drop of a hat you can always go for the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X, there is no reason to go higher.
>That was one of my main worries, but I picked one of the most recent I figured it wouldn't have that issue. Isn't there one that comes ready to go?
Well, some anons did say that you can upgrade without a CPU, you need to research more on that, if you don't want to, there is the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, that will accept the 5000s cpus and it doesn't have a cooling fan for the Chipset, since those fans could be noise and fail.
>I'm paranoid and terrified of drive failures and losing all my shit in one go so I'd much rather pay more for multiple smaller drives and expand later which is why I went with a case with a lot of drive slots.
Buy external drives and buckup your shit. Having a 10TB inside your pc, then an external 10TB drive for a copy is the best way to go, well depends on how much shit you have.
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>>163872
your mom is spyware, some random schizo with a neoshittys page told me so it must be true
>>163873
But you can.
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>>163879
>Well, the 5950X is cheap for what it does, I do believe that having a strong CPU that sits there forever and swapping the GPU now and then would be better.
5950X is absolutely not cheap for what it does in terms of vidya. If this was a workstation maybe, but in STP it gets outperformed by a 12th gen i3.
You could even get an i9 for less.
>Buy external drives and buckup your shit
This is not a good way to cure paranoia considering the failure rate of portable mechanical drives. A server or NAS would be a much better option then.
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>>163883
Unless whatever you're making is on jewtube or some other cash-fueled site you're 100% in the clear to just make a random video shitting on some garbage company, including their logo. If you're trying to also shill some garbage chinkware alongside it then that changes things.
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>>163883
Mind posting examples? 
I doubt you would get sued even if you made video on how ryzen is cpu for Aryans and intel is for niggers, or something stupid like that.
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>>163857
> >Just be careful with the motherboard, if its BIOS not updated to get the new 5000s amd cpus, you will need to get an old cpu to update it.
>That was one of my main worries, but I picked one of the most recent I figured it wouldn't have that issue. Isn't there one that comes ready to go?
You can update the UEFI firmware without a CPU: >>163691 
But check the specs to be sure your MoBo has the feature!  As far as I know, all MoBos since the current year have this sort of feature.

>I picked that one because it has a shitload of space, several drive slots, usb c and looks great to boot.
Ok. And with your budget it shouldn't matter. Personally I'm a fan of Fractal Design Definite (EATX) cases but they are expensive (they have a ton of room and the build quality is great).

>Should I just find a kit that has both lower latency and fast speeds?
Yes, but getting G.Skill RipJaws V is good enough.

>>163863
>Get a full tower instead, thank me later.
>RAM Latency matters more except in the few cases where you're reading large amounts of data from memory at once.
These.

>>163872
>Gentoo too has spyware built into the system. 
Bull shit.

>>163874
Both Intel and AMD are "fine". The most important thing is to get a Zen 3 CPU or at lest 10th gen Intel or better because of Retbleed: But I would only get current/newest gen CPUs because of CPU bugs.
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>>163884
Well, if he has the time, money and skill, he could use tapes. Nothing can top that.
>>163888
>>163891
Logos are trademarked material. Fair use requires criticism or educational material, which a "joke" video which simply shows the part he's using doesn't qualify for. In reality companies, as stupid as they are, recognize the free marketing that comes from someone showing he's using the X brand thing, specially if he's famous. 
Still, he would be opening himself to a lawsuit by showing them, which his lawyers most likely advised him against. So yeah, it's faggy and I don't think anyone ever got in trouble, but it could happen and the legal system would side with the corporation even before the stacks of money.
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>>163893
If only the drives were cheaper all my storage issues would be a thing of the past
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>>163893
this, even the older generations are so obscenely expensive that it doesn't seem worth it.
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>>163908
The first generations are not that expensive, but they are not worth it because of the space they have.
Maybe LTO-3, since its cheap, maybe you get lucky and find a good LTO-4. But from 5 and up, shit is expensive.
I wish there were more videos talking about LTO and how to set them up.
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>>163916
I think it's just SCSI, but they're clearly made for enterprise solutions where you have to backup entire databases and customer info, not anon's crusty /d/ archives. it'd probably be more cost effective to just get a bunch of cheap HDDs, backup stuff to them compressed with something like zpaq, then put them in cold storage until you need them.
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>>163922
>but they're clearly made for enterprise solutions where you have to backup entire databases and customer info, not anon's crusty /d/ archives
my crusty archives are more important and deserve it more, than some normalfags info
>>163900
>>163893
I don't think they are worth it, normal HDDs are way less expensive where you can easily have it on your NAS which with a good RAID setup should already protect you against spurrious drive failures and TrueNAS supports locally encrypting files before backing them up to a cloud storage provider. My stuff is archived accross two continents, I think that will do
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>>163936
This is also important to remember. Never keep only one copy of anything you care about. In IT this is called the 3-2-1 rule:  three copies minimum, two online systems (working copy and a spare) minimum, one offsite backup.
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>>163164 (OP) 
>While we can talk about how a headphone is objectively more accurate than all the others, it does not make it better for everyone, since some people do not like the sound of accurate headphones.
stopped reading there
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>>163884
>5950X is absolutely not cheap for what it does in terms of vidya.
>Not buying a 5950X so that you can encode videos faster
>mfw
Is like you don't want to contribute to the webm thread.
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here you go retard
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fHqk8r
shit that's way more expensive than I thought it was going to be, here are some tips to shave some bux off
>get a cheaper case, especially one with 5.25 inch bays so you can burn PS2 games and hot-swap HDDs for l33t sneakernet purposes
>skip the pro gamer cooler and scrounge a Wraith Max/Prism off egay for $40, they're actually pretty good (I use one)
>use the stock cooler if you don't give a shit about noise
>wait for a sale and get some enterprise HDDs, or shuck easystores/elements
>>163969
With how the new niggerware codecs do multithreading via tiling you can't even use all those cores when encoding without tanking decoding performance on anything with less cores.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-says-falling-gpu-prices-are-over/
lol
lmao, even
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>>163977
That nvidia gook somehow managed to be even more jewish than jews themselves. Holy shit.
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/v/, what is the funniest thing that has happened to you or someone else involving hardware? For me, I did have something funny happen to myself and another classmate recently. I'll describe what happened to me first.

>Sitting in my hardware class(college) disassembling my school desktop computer
>Basically a cheap desktop tower computer that the college no longer needs and students can take apart without worrying about damaging anything important 
>Put everything back together successfully and turn on my computer
>I did everything right and have operating system functionality and all my peripheral are responding
>Decide to install a disk computer game I brought with me since I was still waiting for class to end and I wanted to see if my disk drive even worked
>Go to open the disk drive
>It doesn't open and just makes this noise of being stuck
>I'm confused because I see a green light on the disk drive
>I take a 2nd look at it
>I installed in the disk drive upside down
>mfw I'm the Strongest computer programmer in the room

The next story actually happened in the same day and in the same room. Some how, it was more embarrassing than my own story. 
>sitting across the room trying to get my game installed
>hear a conversation in the background and a beeping noise
>another classmate who has worked with computers professionally is assisting a fellow classmate with his computer
>For some reason his computer keeps beeping
>I recognize that and it probably means his CMOS battery is dead or he doesn't have his RAM install properly
>Oh boy his RAM wasn't install properly 
>I hear the classmate who is helping him say "stop, you installed the RAM upside down"
>the entire class starts laughing although it's not in a mean way
I'm legitimately impressed that he actually managed to install his RAM upside down. It was DDR3 RAM but I still am surprised he was able to accomplish such a feat.
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As long as we're discussing storage autism, any thoughts on the current state of backup software, especially for VMs/hypervisors with multiple bootable exotic source volume formats?

So far as I'm aware, there's a mutually exclusive tradeoff between desirable buzzword features (incremental, snapshot/restore, realtime deduplicating, non-locking, etc.) in software such as Borg or duplicity, versus the ability to work with block devices using alien filesystems or drive partitioning schemes in barebones tools like rclone or Clonezilla.

Is there any better approach right now than to just give up and wrap all other FSs as image files inside Linux-readable filesystems?

>>163862
>Cold storage (assuming it's on an HDD and you're not microwaving it or something) will always be safer than multiple copies on the same system that a bug, power failure or troon script kiddie hacking your shit can destroy at the same time.
There are other reasons RAID is good. Like continuous full duplication, SMART notifying you of most dying drives before data loss occurs, immediately knowing when a drive dies, and no downtime with only decreased performance while rebuilding to new drives.

Cold external HDDs (unlike cold optical/tape) strike me as seriously vulnerable to silent failure compared to a NAS. Encrypted cloud backup like >>163936 suggests is also a very practical solution.

>>163937
This

>>163893
I'm suspicious the death of mass market tape formats (Betacam, DAT, Hi8, etc.) and their accompanying cheap derivatives for the data market (DTF, DDS, M2, etc.)  in the '00s gave tape companies the lack of competition and price pressure needed to price gouge outrageously (especially for drives, even after dropping helical scan, but also for tape in non-bulk quantities) afterward. That was also around when a wave of consolidation hit, so that in spite of continuous unit volume growth in the enterprise tape market, the only surviving formats are LTO & 3592. I think something similar is now happening to optical, with the prices for non-bulk purchase of 128GB BD-XL discs insanely high, while rumors of cloud datacenter BD-XL deployments at sub-HDD prices abound.
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>>163977
They got a taste of that sweet dosh, so even if the crypto craze is dead, they'll get those profits one way or another. Mind you prices have only just hit back to MSRP and maybe slightly below it, thats how fucked everything is that prices seem "good".
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>>163979
>upside down
The bane of diy pc
Haha
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>>163982
What are the stats of the Barcave computer?
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>>163982
I hate you so much
any other anons get a steam deck? Got mine a few days ago and am very impressed, I want to hear your thoughts on the device.
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I think its best to save up until black friday or christmas before buying something. You never know, there could be some good discounts around then and its only like 2-3 months left. Time to save some money.
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>>164010
Reminder to write down prices. Stores frequently inflate prices a few days prior to have a "huge" discount.
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>>164012
Happened to me like last year, I bought a monitor which had the price slashed with the "black friday" label then I went to check when it was over and it was the same price. Fucking kikes.
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>>164015
Fortunately camelcamelcamel still exists, so you can get at least some reference on the typical market price for a part to find out if you're being jewed. https://shucks.top/ also keeps a rough record of price per terabyte for WD externals for data hoarding purposes.
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>>163980
>128GB BD-XL discs
>500GB to 1TB discs fucking when?
>>164009
I will buy one when it gets an option for a M.2 2280.
>>164027
Is there a version of camelcamelcamel for newegg?
>>164028
that's never gonna happen, I went the cheap route and bought a 64gb and swapped it with a $50 512gb kioxia 2230. 
Apparently modding a 2280 drive in will both reduce battery life and mess up the thermal pad cooling the charging IC, which is the hottest component on the device leading to a very premature failure.
I know there are 1 tb 2230s starting to trickle out, microcenter started popping them up on shelves so hopefully bigger drives are around the corner.
>>164028
I don't believe jewegg has an API for it like amazog does. You shouldn't buy from jewegg anyway if you can help it, they got bought by chinks a decade or so ago and they're getting caught doing scummy shit like smashing products returned to them so they can deny the RMA, or accepting exchanges only to send back the same broken parts.
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>>164028
>500GB to 1TB discs fucking when?
Ackshually Sony was developing a BD successor format of sorts around 2008-2010 whose lab prototypes maxed out at 900GB, but it was axed for reasons.
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>>164031
I can think of a few, outside the obvious "goyim can't own anything or have nice things":
>cost to manufacture (this killed all the CRT successors to date)
>garbage performance compared to flash (inherent to optical, but stacks with the first reason)
>flash improving fast enough that even if 1 and 2 were resolved it still could have been beaten on storage density by the time it got to market
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Talking about autistic data backups, what ever happened to the whole "5D Data Storage" stuff? Is that shit only for kikes?
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>>164047
still deep in R&D and not ready for mass production, or at least not in a way where it'd be cost effective. according to the ones in charge.
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>>164048
>oldest video talking about it was 6 years ago
Its almost here, I can feel it.
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>>164036
Given that it was canned during the latter half of the 7th gen the reasons probably amounted to
>1TB HDDs are getting cheaper and cheaper by the day
>most games aren't bloated beyond 8.7GB in size, and those that are seldomly even reach 20GB outside of very few exceptions
>Internets exist and are getting faster, ((( Steam ))) and such have evolved to the point were digital-only releases no longer have to be the realm of indieshitters and game discs only contain a login code
>not every DLC is on-disc
>no one wants or uses BD drives and discs on PC because the drives cost 2-3x as much as DVD-RW drives, you can't watch legitimately purchased film BDs without paid proprietary DRM-ridden niggerware and not a single mainstream PC developer has ever released a PC game on BD-ROM
>slow read times compared to HDDs

I kinda want to see them revive the 1TB disc format for the PS5 Pro just so they can advertise having the most hyper-realistic 16K ray tracked PBR HDR textures on the market for The Last of Us: Zero Dawn, a bravely stunning action-adventure game clocking in at 600GB while saving the environment by reducing Internet bandwidth consumption.
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>>164083
>I kinda want to see them revive the 1TB disc format for the PS5 Pro
Funny you mention the PS5 Pro since the rumor mill is suddenly talking about the Pro NOT having a disc drive directly inside the console. Instead it'll be a detachable one connected through usb-c. If normalfags won't buy the digital only PS5, then force them to buy one by making the newest model not even have a disc drive (sold separately of course).
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>bravely stunning action-adventure game clocking in at 600GB while saving the environment by reducing Internet bandwidth consumption.
Don't forget the day 1 patch that is the norm now, so they'll say one thing but try to push a 400gb patch down your throat anyway.
>>164083
>I kinda want to see them revive the 1TB disc format for the PS5 Pro
They will never do that because the kikes controlling consoles are pushing digital-only to stop people sharing games or selling used games.
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>>164030
>I don't believe jewegg has an API for it like amazog does
LOLwut? PC Part Picker keeps per-SKU daily price graphs going back several years for every reseller including NewEgg.

>>164031
While successors to BD have died, extensions to it have not. Soon after releasing 100GB/128GB BDXL in 2010, Sony & Panasonic offered ODA/DA using the same slightly modified BD technology. 300GB in 2016, 500GB in 2020, 1TB Soon™. Note: This is slightly less impressive than it sounds, because much like a "1.44MB" floppy disk, they're all double-sided with the other side's tracks spiraled backward, plus a second upside-down arm in the drive, effectively doubling both capacity & R/W speed. Something LD/CD/DVD/BD should've done by default from day 1 IMHO. They're marketed at enterprise cloud assholes, usually in cartridges with up to 11 discs each, designed for handling by robots similar to those in tape cart libraries, picrel.

Both originated as part of a wave of similar proposed extensions to BD in the same 2005-2010 era. There were other more aggressive proposals demonstrated, likewise usable on existing BD drives with only a firmware update, such as Pioneer's 400GB/side prototype in 2008 (with planned 1TB/side extension by 2013), 

>>164036
I think the actual reason is simply the death of personal data storage as a market. From the '00s onward there's been a push toward bifurcating everything between tiny fast flash/MRAM for the proles, versus all the shit we're talking about for neo-mainframes unaffordable without bulk discounts. There might be more pushback than I cynically imagine though: If you'd told me in the '00s when the trend became evident, I'd have expressed sincere amazement that they're still selling affordable HDDs to consumers in 2022.
>(this killed all the CRT successors to date)
I disagree, I think it's too much R&D funneled into the black hole of LCD for "almost as good almost as soon" results, starving competitors of resources. Look at how inkjet manufacturing on paper substrates for LEPOLED has been publicly demonstrated since 1997, yet everyone in the OLED business still uses the same expensive and fussy TFT glass substrate manufacturing as LCDs.

A secondary factor that probably hasn't been as bad, but surely caused some impediment, is LCD's monopolistic dominance forcing every technology to be implemented in a needlessly LCD-like way, due to both economies of scale for tech/infrastructure, and cultural brainworms in engineers who've never known anything but LCDs. Plasma microcontrollers not using subpixel wear-leveling because LCD doesn't need it, OLED being stuck with low framerates and high input lag because LCD is too slow for it, e-Ink never exploiting "power off" bistability because LCD can't do it. Even LCD itself has forgotten the idea of "transflective" backings because every LCD since the '90s relies entirely on backlights, so mobile LCDs are now illegible in daylight.

>>164047
>5D Data Storage
>>164059
>oldest video talking about it was 6 years ago
Not exactly the same "5D" project, but I've been hearing about technically similar systems like holographic cards since the mid-'90s. For CD-sized media:
>FMD: 1996-2002, 100GB public prototype, 1TB projected
>InPhase: 2000-2011: 300GB-860GB public prototypes
>HVD: 2004-2010, 100GB-5TB public prototypes
>>163969
Get a 3950X for that, it's cheaper too.
>>164202
>5.5 TB
Finally an upgrade to that 1.44 MB of porn bad boy
>>164202
I was specifically talking about SED and FED. They never admitted what the problem actually was but reading between the lines I'm betting the technology was shitcanned because they couldn't find a way to make millions of tiny electron guns as a thin film and keep them all under vacuum without horrible yields. That would explain why the last ditch effort to commercialize it was pro reference displays, where marginal costs of $10k and a pile of hazardous waste is acceptable. Now people are shitposting about laser-phosphor displays, which have the same mechanism of action as a CRT but instead of using electrons you zap the phosphors with a laser. This is basically a bizarro version of how high-end projectors work today so I have more confidence in it becoming something you can buy, assuming the kikes don't shitcan it for lasting too long or something.
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>>163980
To make backups I use:
< mksquashfs to make snapshots
< tar+gpg --symmetric (if I want encrypt the files)
< just rsync to a external drive (most often)
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>>164230
>They never admitted what the problem actually was but reading between the lines I'm betting the technology was shitcanned because they couldn't find a way to make millions of tiny electron guns as a thin film and keep them all under vacuum without horrible yields.
From what I read the distances between the electron gun and phosphor subpixels on SEDs is small enough to forgo the use of a vacuum, though the displays would require a much thicker glass than LCDs due to X-rays making the tech potentially unsuitable for mobile devices.
>>164202
>transflective LCDs
It's plain bizarre these aren't used on smartphones in conjunction with some ESG climate crap, the GBC with its non-backlit screen has better black levels than every smartphone LCD made in the 2010s.
>>164230
>I was specifically talking about SED and FED
That's exactly what I was thinking of too, along with a raft of other ideas like plasma, ELD, EFD, IMOD, the final blood that could've been wrung from the CRT stone presented by shortneck tubes; and now e-Ink, OLED, µLED, & true QD.

They're invariably confronted with the dilemma of "Should we commit to the extra $200M needed to bring this tech over the hump? Or should we dump that into incremental diminishing returns from LCD like everyone else?" and are too cowardly to bother

>projectors
I think the front-projection market provides a great contrast against LCD's (before that CRT's) very unhealthy monopoly of the direct-view market. Alongside the mainstays of derivative tech of CRT & LCD projectors, there's been a healthy competition of tech like DLP, LCoS, FLD, and scanning lasers. Similarly professional VFDs/headsets.

>>164246
Yeah that falls into the "jerrybuilt shell script abomination" category I was bemoaning, and would be disastrous to navigate automatically. In particular it can't dedupe incremental snapshots in any practical way.
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>>164250
>he looked up the micro symbol to paste it into his post
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>>164252
Nah, I use my DE's Eunuchode picker for anything I don't remember how to type.
>>164250
>too cowardly to bother 
The problem is the startup costs for any new technology are astronomical because you have to essentially gut your LCD factories and invent new tooling to replace them, but margins are dogshit because displays for propaganda-consumption purposes are commodity hardware. Put those together with investors that expect ROI to be two quarters maximum and you get this. Projectors by contrast require much less factory space (and much of it is reusable between technologies because you're always going to need heavy-duty mounting hardware, optical elements etc) and get sold to enterprises who are fine with getting gouged because they can always take that money back from the goyim in the form of tax rebates for business expenses.
tl;dr the jews did it
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>>164255
I think there's also fear of being first through the breach. Having accepted the risk of doing all the R&D needed for a new technology, and then during transition from research to the factory toolup you described, getting flattened under waves of copycats.
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>>164317
>'Chinese' anime girls
No thanks.
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>>164318 (me)
>Text was made Italic instead of bold
Shid.
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>>164321
Bold was changed to ++ instead of ''' quite a while back, though it was easy to miss I guess.
>>164317
looks terrible
>>164317
soulless
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>>164317
Was it more cringe, or less cringe?
>>164350
AMD girl seems pretty solid, but nvidia is pure cringe.
>>164350
>first pic
Didn't that feary had fully rendered nipples?
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>>164365
I sure hope so.
>>164359
theyre both shit, like with all 3dpd
>>164368
3DPD would wish to look as good as 3D.
>>164368
but they're just 3d, not 3dpd anon..
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>>164368
Those are 3DCG, not 3DPD though.
By that logic a 3D model of a 2D waifu is 3DPD
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>>164398
They're still pig disgusting
>>164417
Yes, the same as some dumb whore cosplaying a drawing is 3dpd. Are you retarded?
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>>164429
>MMD models are 3DPD
You are a fucking retard.
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>>163857
>I thought bigger MHz number meant faster
Look up how latency in memory works. The best way i can describe it is think of a pitcher throwing at targets. mhz is how fast he throws the ball while latency is how fast he locates/changes his target.
3200 or 3600 cl14 is pretty cheap.
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>>164365
Maybe just a bit

Also LOL at the sheer pettiness:
https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/09/27/rip-dawn-nvidia-removes-its-sexiest-tech-demos/
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Should i buy nitro 5? Yay or nay?
>>164359
I like it, has the New Age/psychedelic artstyle to it
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>>164487
>gayman lappy
If you wanna blow over double the cash needed for a similarly spec'd desktop, sure.

Otherwise get the cheapest portable you can use, then throw the rest of your budget into a more powerful and upgradable desktop.
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>>164578
 >only needs 2 fans to stay below 120 degrees
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>>164359
Fuckoff
>>164487
I have one, its decent but I haven't tested any demanding emulators or AAA games on it yet.
The closest thing to a "demanding" game I played on it recently was Nu-Xcom 2 on mostly maxed settings, and it had no issues.
Though if you can wait, I think the next generation of laptops will probably have far better GPUs and shit, though the problem is that the costs are unknown at this stage and how long it will take; I basically needed mine for school and I felt like ensuring it could handle gayman shit since my desktop is currently in the shop and I need to get an actual desk for it (in a new place) so I can use it properly
though that PC is 6 years old now and running on a 1070.
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>>164317
i wonder if theres a linux OS tan skin for intel arc since they have sriov in the kernel

>>164578
kek this is literally me .t legionnaire
>120 degrees
its even better mine just stays on 60C at peak workload heh this thing literally replaced my older desktop the insides are simply much more efficient
>cost
my laptop has everything self contained besides the price value is much better since i dont have the cash to buy extra overpriced gaming monitor and ((( razer ))) shit that breaks every few years

>>164487
>nitro 5
god no not that garbage rumors has it that their 3070 is power locked so effectively youre paying for a gimped low end gpu if the cooling does not burn itself atleast the ideapad ones have have thier bios fixed if youre gonna use it as a portable server for gpu passthrough also lenovo has better linux support in general

not sure about the acer predator or hp omen series though but i also heard that MSI brand has even worse cooling despite being thicker keep in mind that they are known as one of the worse on feedback and criticism due to a literal furfag behind it as usual (check the lucky comic strip its bait)
aero and the other chink brands seems decent enough but asus is the best shit they are also pro-anime which is an added bonus and the best part is the fact that have no woke trash so far though its proprietary just like the other but atleast its they are highly competent
>>164654
>kek this is literally me .t legionnaire
Where did you come from?
>>164580
120 C or F? Haha
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>>164466
Is it possible to get your hands on that model?
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>>164654
>wasting thousands of dollars on a throwaway laptop
>when you could burn it on a throwaway phone instead
SMHTBQHfampaionisama

>>164657
°Rø obviously

>>164662
Maybe using a D3D dumping tool like ninjaripper and a 3D printer
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>>164730
I got my laptop for under a thousand
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>>164487
>nitro 5?
Gaming laptops suck. 
They usually are overpriced and have cooling problems. And you can actually save money in the long run if you build your PC yourself and upgrade it (you usually just need a new GPU).  Pick a build from Logical Increments and use PC Part Picker to customize it (Check op: >>163164 (OP)  ). Post your build here to get recommendations. I recommend you get Fractal Deign Focus G case, G.Skill RipJaws V 16GB RAM kit (2x8GB), a Ryzen 5 5600 CPU (it comes with a good fan) and a Toshiba HDD (or two). I think Radeon RX 6600 made by MSI/Asus/Sapphire is a good GPU (you want to get an AMD GPU for better Linux support).

>>164654
>gaming monitor and ((( razer ))) shit
Why would you need to buy a ((( gaming ))) monitor when you can just get a "regular" one? You can also use an old TV if it's small. And who still buys ((( Razer ))) products?? You can just buy a cheap Logitech K120 keyboard and Logitech MX518 Legendary mouse (which costs like 30 eurobucks). If you want a mechanical keyboard, you can get something cheap like SilentiumPC SPC GK650K Omnis Kailh Brown RGB or Cherry MX-Board keyboard.
>>164832
But nitro 5 isn't expensive and doesn't have cooling problems. Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just a talking head?
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>>164832
I have never once heard of a CPU coming with a good stock fan.
>>164837
>look reddit parentheses that means you need to be mad
He's a retard. The recs are sound but he's still a retard. Buying laptops that are less than 2 years old is a terrible idea anyway because newer ones come bundled with a Microsoft brand CIA nigger chip.
>>164840
Stop buying Shintel then. AMD's Wraith coolers aren't as good as what you can buy from Noctua or Cooler Master but they aren't instant housefire like the shitty paperweights intel used (when they still bothered with stock coolers) and unlike most aftermarket coolers worth a damn they actually fit in small cases.
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>>164832
Here is a build I just come up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnKnwc 
But I recommend waiting for Black Friday if you can!

>>164837
>nitro 5 isn't expensive 
It isn't as expensive as gaming laptops usually are but even then you can save money in the long run if you build your PC yourself. You cannot upgrade an laptop (unless you count some Thinkpads).

>Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just a talking head?
Yes, have you ever used a laptop under a heavy load? Playing games on a laptop is not very nice, either. The only thing that's good about laptops is the portability.

>>164840
At least my AMD Ryzen 5 2600 has a good stock fan and the reviews for Ryzen 5 5600 and Ryzen 5 5600X indicate that the stock fan is good.
>>164845
>AMD stock fans
>ignoring all the AMD fire memes of the past
What.
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>>164847
>ignoring all the AMD fire memes of the past
>believing in all /g/ memes
Surely you know that AMD has better colors than Nvidia, right?  Ryzen processors have always come with good coolers (at least all I have read reviews for!)
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>>164849
>he thinks it's just a meme
The last 2 AMD stock fans I used wailed like banshees and couldn't cool for shit in 18°C ambient. The cheapest aftermarket cooler you can find will most likely do better judging from their past.
>>164417
hate to break it to you but 3D modelling sucks ass. the only thing it ever succeeds on is wowing people by the latest gimmick they came up with to make an inch of progress this year
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>7050X You don't care for money, energy or heat Edition is out
>mfw
Check for cpu prices, odds are they are going to drop to get some sales.
I think this will be a DDR5 generation only, so I hope the DDR4 prices are going to drop.
>>164982
>95C with watercooler on full blast "by design"
>AMD fags tried to defend AMD Fire Hazards less than 24 hours ago
You can't make this shit up. I'd like to see someone run a stock cooler on that just to see how fast it burns out.
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>>164985
go back to cuck/g/
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>>164986
Stock coolers are shit.
>>164986
I wouldn't know what you are referring to since haven't browsed cuckchan in a decade. Maybe you can enlighten me since you obviously know?
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>>164982
https://yewtu.be/y_jaS_FZcjI
Yeah, you need to delid it and have a direct die cooling solution, a fucking ridiculous 20° saved. Jesus christ, all for the sake of muh AIO/Fan cooler compatibility, as if the DDR5 wasn't already a deal breaker. I'm gonna hold off onto Zen 5 or even 6 at this rate.
>>164744
Even if the laptop was $800, a prebuilt desktop with comparable specs (even without taking thermal throttling into account) costs $500. Or, taken another way, you could get at least double the specs for the same price in a desktop. Assembling parts yourself, upgrading an existing desktop, and buying used/refurb, will each of course slash that even further.

Unless you have some burning need to run something like SolidWorks in the field, or are living out of a different room every month, spending more than $200 on a notebook is a waste of money.

>>164845
>less than 2 years old is a terrible idea anyway because newer ones come bundled with a Microsoft brand CIA nigger chip
TPM 1 is no better than TPM 2. If you're referring to IME/PSP in their entirety, basically all CPUs newer than A DECADE AND A HALF have that. Anything that old isn't even cellphone-tier today.

>>164832
>Why would you need to buy a (((  gaming  ))) monitor when you can just get a "regular" one?
Monitors are one of the few areas where Official Gayman Gear is legitimately far superior: Lower latency, faster response, MUCH higher framerates, VRR, BFI, analog dimming, etc.. They shouldn't even exceed $200 until you get above 27" 1440p165 or 1080p280.

But yeah, if you're fine with 60Hz & 20ms lag, you can get by just fine on HDTVs or commodity office drone monitors for well under $100.

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>>164845
>>164985
Before 2016, AMD shipped the same garbage grade of internally developed coolers Intel still does. Then they gave up, hired Cooler Master to do Wraith coolers for them, and as a result AMD's stock coolers are actually decent.

Pointing to a CPU clocked to overwhelm a Peltier watercooler isn't an argument that Wraith is bad compared to other aircoolers.
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>>164982
https://yewtu.be/uks4qQ2MXrM
Just saw this video by PCworld, energy and heat is halved by 50% for a 10% performance hit, so if you're not looking for the highest overclock number then you should be fine using eco mode, but at that point you'd be better off with a 5950X.
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>>165006
I'm talking about Pluton you dumb nigger. TPMs are just an opaque key store and cryptography coprocessor, you can store your LUKS keys in them to mitigate a few kinds of hardware-theft attacks.
>>165008
AMD is going for the benchmark crown since it clearly worked for intlel this gen, but you shouldn't be buying new hardware anyway. The gist isn't that Zen 4 is housefire tier, it's that AMD intentionally made the default boost algorithm ignore power limits and boost as high as it can until either the workflow doesn't require it or Tdie = 95C and thermal throttle kicks in, so it can out-benchmark intlel chips that do the same thing in most configurations, but still boost lower because they ARE housefire tier.
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>>165008
>pic
Maybe I'm just too autistic, but I don't get it. I see pornstars as inherently dirty and undesirable, so I certainly wouldn't want to see one that looks like my crush doing anal acrobatics or getting fucked by another dude. Even softcore stuff is kinda not the same, I'll still fap to it if the girl is hot but not to that extent. 
Then again I'm too autistic to even fap to any pictures of her in the first place. 
But I did accidentally kind of modded her into a game  so I made her wear cute dresses. Not posting the pics.
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>>165011
>not posting the pics
I sometimes enjoy empathizing with fellow imageboard users, please post them.
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>>165011
>Not posting the pics
Do it or else I'll fuck your crush
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>>165012
>>165013
It's probably not nearly as good as you expect it to be. The hormones are doing most of the work on top of it being a game that I'm the only person in existence thinks looks good. 
Besides, I don't want to be another elf anon. 
Have an unrelated vidya girl.
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>>165016
>a game that I'm the only person in existence thinks looks good
I still believe Half Life 98's graphics are cutting edge so my aesthetical compass is screwed as well, I have no problem with that.
If you truly wanted no one to nag you about it you wouldn't have posted it.
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>>165016
Elf anon was using a public card though so he was just asking to get cucked
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>>165010
>Pluton
Pure puffery. Every specific claim I've heard about it ("it prevents Linux installs", "it prevents modifying Windows", "It requires Windows for firmware updates", "it can access IO without the CPU requesting it", etc.) is invariably both bullshit and something TPM could already do.
>TPMs are just
Case in point. IME clear back in the '00s had its own tiny CPU, RAM and flash, running a full RTOS with networking stack.

Until and unless those capabilities are used for something iOS-like, which to date they have not been, Pluton is nothing but hype.
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>>165084
Back in '08 when that mobo was designed? Yeah, Core 2 rawk'd da hauz while AMD was shidding & farding itself to death with K10.
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