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Previous thread: https://archive.ph/RYFre

What do you think the new age of fighting games will look like?

The pandemic has fundamentally drawn a line between the older generation/community of fighting game players and the newer generation who started playing/getting serious during lockdowns and only know netplay as the default (of course, most of the previous generation was the same, but that's beside the point).  How do you think this will change the face of the FGC, such as it is, in the coming years?  I think the single most prominent change is that the crybullying faggot player archetype will become even more common in the FGC than it was before - people already got upset at offline events, but online events enable them to cultivate their own neuroses to a far higher degree without being forced to interact with other people.

On the bright side, I think (or would like to believe) that fighting game developers are aware that now more than ever, they need to ship a complete product.  People are generally pissed off paying for games with small rosters, no meaningful single player content, and multiple season passes of DLC planned.  Street Fighter 6 seems poised to remind people what's fun about SF, given that it seems not to be a rushed, half finished mess like SFV was, which is good.  Games from other developers like SNK (SamSho 2019, KoFXV), ArcSys (DBFZ, GBVS, GGStrive, DNF Duel), and Bamco (Soul Calibur VI, Tekken 7) all seem to have crippling flaws in one way or another despite their appealing qualities.
SNK's games barely function and have atrocious UIs.  ArcSys's games are much the same, but at least the netcode works when you aren't being prevented from joining due to server traffic errors.  Bamco really only has Tekken these days, and they're doing their best to drive community goodwill into the ground with slapdash balance patches, poor community interaction, and aggressive DLC practices like charging $4 for frame data.

Anecdotally, I think a lot more people are playing on buttonbox controllers; apparently there were tonnes of them at Combo Breaker, and a lot of the people I remember from my local scene are starting to use them.  Things like playing on PC, various brands of prebuilt button boxes (Snackbox Micro, Hitbox, Mixbox) and the inherent shittiness of arcade sticks have made the prospect of using a keyboard or buttonbox much more appealing.

>What have you been playing for the last two years?
>Do you have an offline scene in your community now that normalfags are starting to go outside their houses?
>Are there any games you're looking forward to?
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>>144989
what about tekken?
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NEWS
Street Fighter 6 gameplay and command lists for Ryu, Chun Li, Jamie, and Luke: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xgrr8B4npZg
Them's Fightin' Herds added level 3 supers and a bunch of minor balance fixes.  Shanty, the goat, is now free for everyone forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsG0DYF1yo
Guilty Gear Strive season 2 patch has released: https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-1560/
(There was also a hotfix for some bugs, but that didn't really change anything.)
Moonatics reveal trailer: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Sg8cZi3eY5A
Ultra Fight Da Kyanta 2 Rollback Edition Update: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GBrh_bDbr7k
JoJo's All-Star Battle +R will not feature rollback (the +R was not for rollback, apparently): https://nitter.42l.fr/Vishkujo/status/1537367882035765248

OTHER STUFF
Street Fighter 3 New Generation: An In-Depth Look [Mechanics & Characters]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HEzt5EoZhPQ
That Blasted Salami hosted a throwback tournament for Tekken 3 last month.  It was pretty cool:
Matches - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=X_wEuL05bXg
Jin mirrors (which were *winners finals and grand finals**) - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=z-M9U62w8ps
Combo Breaker happened a few weeks ago.  Some of the top 8 archives can be found here: https://yewtu.be/channel/UCjT9Hwh4twdfvFZCV1tIsCw
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>>145022
omg. did you see how asian they made the characters look. now they'll see why all animated and games character are always White, because non-whites look ugly as hell.
I get the idea of the whole "loading screen face" mechanic of SF6 but it just looks so dumb to watch.
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I decided to watch the Bloody Roar top 8 (only one tranny, and he doesn't even seem to be a furfag) and one thing which has really surprised me is how many custom animations there are for the different types of defence.  Apparently this is due to the multi-layer defence system which has light guard (don't do anything), heavy guard (block), evade (parry/dodge), and just defend (backdash + parry/dodge).  All the animations are really fast and they don't interrupt the flow of the game at all.

I took some screenshots to kind of illustrate the point.  The atrocious video quality doesn't really do the animations justice; they take place at about 26:40 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_jyzrbbvRM

It's pretty crazy how games like Mortal Kombat and Tekken have gotten by with objectively awful animations for so long simply because their fanbases are too fucking retarded to complain about it.  Here's a Gamecube game from the early 2000s blowing them out of the water.

>>145031
I like it precisely because it's dumb.  It reminds me of screaming at my opponent on the Soul Calibur 2 loading screen.
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>>145009
Maybe in a week we will hear about 8.
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>>145009
>what about tekken?
Tekken died after Dark Resurrection.
Also Harada is a faggot.
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>>145109
>Tekken died after Dark Resurrection.
why?
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>>145112
Bounds/Screws.
How do you find people still playing old fighters on previous gen consoles? Not sure where to find blazblue continuum extend players
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>>145159
emulator netplay?
>>145109
i don't ever recall kuma ever looking as menacing as he does in that poster ;__;
>>144989
>>What's the angriest you've ever made someone?
>playan 3rd strike at a friend's house
>some dumbass he knew was there, traded controllers around when someone lost
>his friend sucks, eventually insists on another round against me
<seething intensifies
>5 rounds now, my friend can't stop laughing
>"Hahahahaha oh god man not that"
>my bud noticed I casually chose Healing Super Art on Elena for maximum trolling
>Spam crouching punches and standing medium kicks
<What the fuck this is bullshit!
>"We haven't gotten to bullshit yet"
>I let the fool whittle my HP down slow, even give him a round
<Almost got you! I'm gunna BEAT you!
>Near dead, wait till last possible second
>parry
>trip
>"Hahahahahaha"
>Jump full screen away and ...
>"Hahahahahaha duuuun do it don't man!"
>Hee-ring-guu!
>Put controller down while the screeches ring out
<WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THIS SHIT! I WAS ABOUT TO FUCKING WIN I ...
>friend jumps in, tears rolling down, "he healed man, don't worry you got this!"
>pick up controller, drain this fucker's bar, heal again just for the
<WRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>get a perfect next round to the mixed BGM of "Beats nah beats in muh head" friend's suffocated laughter, and retard's bitch n' moan
>12:40am, he won't shut the fuck up
>Friend's mom wakes up "welp there goes the fun"
That dude was being a nasty pile of shit. Friend asked him to give me a ride home. I said "um nahh". Wound up walking home after that.
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>>145021 (OP) 
>What do you think the new age of fighting games will look like?
If the devs keep chasing the "e-sports" fad, and paying niggers money to play their games, then fighting games will keep getting boring and look like shit, worse and worse.
We will see an improvement only when devs will grow a pair and tell "e-sports" niggers to fuck off and take a shower, and then focus on making their games FUN first of all and look good once again.
>>145197
>Beats nah beats in muh head
It's piss in my head.
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>>145021 (OP) 
>I think a lot more people are playing on buttonbox controllers
The only issue I have with it is doing 180s and longer inputs. There might be a specific way to do it, but  when I want to press down and back from player 1, using my middle finger and then the ring finger, those two just move at the same time and I get 6321. I don't know why, if I do it the other way (first the ring finger the the middle finger) they piano the inputs perfectly. It is a huge issue for me specially for older games that love to do half circles back forward and whatnot. 

But yeah otherwise it's just better overall. As long as it's just 4 buttons for moving and no funny business with modded diagonal inputs or something, I don't think anyone is complaining about them anymore.
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>>145197
>"seething"
>>>/cuckchan/

>>145265
>when I want to press down and back from player 1, using my middle finger and then the ring finger, those two just move at the same time and I get 6321
Is there some SOCD cleaning switch you flipped by accident?  I can't understand how BACK + DOWN could ever give you a 6 or 3.  I could see accidentally getting a 421 input, but that's it.
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>>145270
>le go back to cuckchan!
You're fucking pathetic, Eden.
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>>145280
t. eden
>>145051
>he didn't play bloody roar extreme with his bro
I miss this game like you wouldn't believe man
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>>145270
No not SOCD I explained it wrong, my middle finger and my ring finger move at the same time if I use the middle finger first then the ring finger specially if I do half circles, but if I do it the other way (first the ring finger then the middle finger) they just don't interfere with each other. 41236 is fine but going the other way I only input 6321. It's so weird and specific I'm starting to think I'm just deformed. It's a shame because it's much better than a stick and much more practical but I can't play games with those inputs.
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>>145319
Apparently the guy who won, JeriTheOG, has been helping to support a Bloody Roar revival in the last couple years.  There are guides to mechanics and Dolphin netplay on his channel:
https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PLf8OfEiWYGcBbriOSxYPPeTBRw-MYbcY-
https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PLf8OfEiWYGcAjZv6jG07JWFwLsJjynRue
There are also these videos of online sets uploaded on HyperBeastTV:
https://yewtu.be/channel/UCl6vzJ8s9CJITUMGKznku7A

It's a real shame that the series is dead.  The game is so cool and there have obviously been a lot of dedicated fans for it.
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>>145343
Isn't dolphin's netplay horrible? I would play it gladly but I hear that it's so bad it's just not worth it at all.
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>>145343
Unfortunately, I'm on the edge of the planet and I'd have to physically bully people into playing the game to find other players. I've been shilling BRE for years but I'm not invested enough to start a scene by myself.
I wish there was a new bloody roar game.
>>145265
>>145326
I use my last three fingers for fast hcb on keyboard, and can hit bluespark ONEs (justframe 412363/632141) about 2/3rd of the time. If you need 632146 then you can also press the second 6 with your middle finger without too much trouble in that configuration, though if I'm doing a buffered 632146 I usually use my pointer to start.
>It's so weird and specific I'm starting to think I'm just deformed
Your middle finger is a lot longer than your ring finger dude, that's normal. When you go the other way you can use a shallow angle to piano and it's fine because your pointer is almost as long but going backwards there's a big change between middle and ring fingers. Leading with middle finger you can take a much steeper angle by actually rotating your wrist somewhat.
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>>145348
I think it's delay-based, which means somewhat functional for people close to you but impractical past that.

>>145366
>I'd have to physically bully people into playing the game to find other players.
Do it, faggot.
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>>145368
I stopped going outside 4-5 years ago
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>>145371
same
>play a bit of dnf duel
>really slow walk speed on a lot of characters
>motion inputs exist but seems to be something you use for combos / buffering the input on pressure, as i hear the mana recovery isn't as delayed
>combo structure midscreen isn't very cool and quite linear, maybe it's because i'm playing hitman? but it's pretty lame
you can pirate the game and play online with other suckers who paid for the game
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>>145757
>you can pirate the game and play online with other suckers who paid for the game
Can you? I didn't care about the game but I might as well try it.
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>>145762
look it up on cs.rin.ru and read the instructions carefully
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>>145762
ya i grabbed it off 1337x and its working just fine. playing a friend now
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>>145757
>>145768
>>145788
is dnf a special case for some reason or can all other fighting games connect with legit owners now using an online fix?
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>>145840
You can do it with Granblue, DNF, and Fighterz.
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>>146175
As far as I'm aware, gbvs only matched you with other pirate players. I tried entering the lobbies with what I assumed were the real players since there were a lot but I was insantly kicked out. That's why I was so skeptical about it. Maybe there are better online cracks now.
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>>146176
You probably need to be on the same version. Last I checked yesterday the most up to date pirate copy is .01 behind the buyfag version
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prayers go out to all the trash games like this
stay fun
>>145788
Do you need to do anything or it just works out of the box?
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>>146366
Probbaly nothing but you'll need to keep it up to date manually.
>>146366
yeah after you install it go to the online crack folder and copy the engine and red folders to the root folder of the game, overwriting everything. then youll use the exe found in the red folder to play online. this should also fix any controller issues
at least that's what I had to do with the dodi version i got from 1337x
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Which one did you main, /v/?
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>>146406
The American on the bottom left
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>>146407
What American names their son Buchu?
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>>146408
One with a very hungry son
>>146406
That mandatory Bruce Lee clone.
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>>146536
I've been meaning to go back through my giant document of links, then save and post them.  I have a fair few memes/photoshops/etc. from normalfag social media which are good despite their dubious origins.
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>>145051
RIP Hudson
Konami doesn't deserve your IPs
>>146447
What was even the right strategy to use on Blues when fighting him in single player?  All I could figure out to do was jump in place and then desperately hope I manage to hit him first when I get down.
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>>147757
You should clarify whether you're a buyfag or not.  I know some anons earlier in the thread were pirating it, and version mismatches can cause problems.
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>>147758
Not a buyfag and it doesn't matter as far as i know
Smoke break but other guy will stay, I'll be back shortly
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>>147762
the connection was very laggy, so i quit
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>>147763
Fair
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>>147766
a bit more lag
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>>147766
>>147767
I mention the lag because it was there but there's no way to see it in the recorded video. This PSA is for any idiot that has to be told.
>>147766
Why does the animation in this game look like that? retarded design choice? cutscenes locked to 20fps to match a consoles locked framerate?  recording inconsistency that doesnt show up in actual game?
>>147801
By choice. Combined with the art style it makes it look more like anime, or that's what they aim for. To their credit, it looks weird but better than if it was animated normally.
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>>147801
>is stylized animation due to console limitations?
Do you think that inbetween frames would magically appear if you run the game on an RTX 3090?
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the new age is already upon us
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>>147812
No, What gave you that impression? ESL?

>>147810
It looks terrible. If you animate in a lower framerate you would match the style and pacing. This just looks like they animated it normally and then played it back at a very low framerate. The pacing doesnt even appear consistent.
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>>147821
>ESL?
Yeah, you do appear to be one.
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>>147821
>I am retarded, therefore you are ESL.
Nigger.
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>>147831
>>147827
Why would hardware affect a fixed framerate in a cutscene? What did I say to make you think that? ESL?
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>Retards don't understand the difference between frame rate and keyframes
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>>147971
>>147801
>cutscenes locked to 20fps to match a consoles locked framerate?
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>>147767
>>147766
Oh god it hurts my eyes.

>>147975
The animation looks straight up like mocap at a painfully low framerate. Disgusting. If this was an intentional design choice, it was a retarded one.
>>147992
Yes. Some console games have locked framerates. Sometimes cutscenes match that for continuity. When a game is ported to PC they often unlock the framerate and certain animations and cutscenes remain locked to 20fps or whatever the console had to match the consoles locked framerate and end up looking bad where it just looked consistent before.
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https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/hungrybox-dqs-himself-from-super-smash-bros-tournament-after-throwing-up-blood-and-still-attending
>literally wake up spitting blood
>tweet about it
>go to maylay tournament anyway
>play one set surrounded by other sweaty neckbeards
>have a sudden attack of intelligence and self-DQ
<FGCniggers are more butthurt you didn't wear a mask than you prioritizing a children's party game over living
Competitive Smash. Not even once.
>>148187
hbox is a huge sperg and it doesn't surprise me that he'd do something retarded like this
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>>148187
tournyfags "e-sports" niggers are fucking cancer.
>>148188
heil
>>148187
these faggots are still doing the mask thing? It's not even mandated even in the most corona conquered countries anymore, I only see around 1/10 people still wearing them in public and it's always old people
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>>148187
>posting a direct link to an esports nigger website
Kill yourself.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=coDNJeCKnxE
I vaguely knew how prolific cheating in T7 was, but I didn't consciously realize it was quite this bad.
>cheating software can cost $300-400, although this price may be going down
>the source code for cheating software is becoming more prevalent among hacker forums, etc.
>this means cheating is more common, and because there are more ways to cheat, you may not always be able to identify them
You might remember the "one punch = game win" method from a few years ago, where cheaters win an entire game (on their end) from a single hit, then force a desync and take the rank points.  That method was very visible and very obvious, which made it somewhat easy for Bamco to crack down on mildly inconvenience the cheaters once they were caught.  Apparently the new method is to program the cheat only to work a certain percentage of the time, or use hotkeys to enable the cheats whenever things become stressful - so you play a match normally, whittle away at your opponent's health, and then enable cheats to close out the round.  Like cheating in other games, this makes it much harder to conclusively prove that a particular player was cheating - if you play legitimately and only use cheats to cover over the rough patches, then you still get the narcissistic thrill of winning and getting something you "deserve" while convincing yourself you earned it because you played the rest of the game "legitimately."

I've seen stuff like this in CS:GO and other FPSs, and the occasional shitpost cheat in SFV (giant Ryu covering the entire screen with 5LK, etc.) but I didn't consciously think there were enough people playing T7 to make this kind of software a viable market product.  Then again, Tekken players are some of the most fragile people on the planet, so I suppose I shouldn't really be that surprised.
>>150180
do you have the screencaps of that RetardEra manchild going apeshit on his living room for losing a tekken match?
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Is it just me or does anyone else consider a worldwide tournament to only have 2k-2.5k unique total entrants laughably low? Esports is a joke and was a mistake for fighting games. All that pandering and cancelling of players just for trannys to not show up is fucking funny



>>150180
>cheating in a fucking fighting game
What’s the point, fucking retards
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>>150180
>if you play legitimately and only use cheats to cover over the rough patches, then you still get the narcissistic thrill of winning and getting something you "deserve" while convincing yourself you earned it because you played the rest of the game "legitimately."
Why pay for this? Is this just ergonomics for the ps4 scene? Rank data is stored locally so you can just rollback any losses if you're seething. Lots of people (100% of yoshi players) DC when they lose in ranked so you don't get points for winning, then take the rank penalty for DCing then restore their previous local data.
<Tekken players are some of the most fragile people on the planet, so I suppose I shouldn't really be that surprised
Esparts is especially dead for us now because in additional to the general lack of good players some troon got banned from the scene for having called shadow a nigger some time in the past. I can't remember the exact story but he had a mental breakdown after losing a set to eating a hellsweep and losing the life lead while running the clock. There were some somewhat comical logs of him verbally abusing the guy he was dating every time he got blown out in a tourney (in an "at least I'm not that cuck" sense) and nothing really else.
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>>150183
>worldwide tournament to only have 2k-2.5k unique total entrants
For something like the TWT?  It is pretty low, especially considering that early grassroots/basement dweller tournaments had larger absolute numbers despite the cultural stigma around video games and the difficulty of dispersing information without the internet.

>>150196
>seething
Why use cuckchan lingo?
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>>150213
I was referring to EVO 

Evo 2022 Tournament Reg:
1. GGST - 2161
2. SFV - 1320
3. T7 - 1220
4. KOFXV - 1014
5. DBFZ - 636
6. GBVS - 528
7. MK11 - 464
8. MBTL - 411
9. SG - 295
Attending Countries - 63

I was laughing nonstop when I saw this. Can’t even blame the chink flu anymore since normalfags have gotten over it. 


>seethe, cringe, based, booba
this is shit 3rd world spics love to use a lot
>>150180
>how prolific cheating in T7 was
Eh, once in a thousand matches you run into a player so stupid he can't even mask he is blocking frame one even crouch dashes, or using a dashing script for characters without a wavedash, you just lose (or even win in most cases from my experience, they can't even do a combo after the free block) leave and keep playing normally. There are very few players cheating from my experience and they naturally shoot straight up into the highest rank since they are saving rank too so only the esports streamer influencers see them. It is pretty funny how easy it is to cheat though. I am surprised every other player online isn't cheating.

>but I didn't consciously think there were enough people playing T7 to make this kind of software a viable market product.
It is the most played game, there are enough people for paid coaching sessions, paid rank boosting, and tekken eceleb streamers. Of course there's a market for cheating.

>>150196
>(100% of yoshi players)
Don't be angry, they just ff1+4 in real life for losing.
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>>150183
>Esports is a joke and was a mistake for fighting games.
Enough said.
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>>150363
>Hitomi
Jesus Christ I want to hold her hand and take her out shopping and eating to a nice restaurant followed by fucking her senseless
>>148264
all the vbig vidya gatherings still require all attendees to be gigavaxxxed and wear a mask as well. i looked at PAX and it was the case there, even local tournaments are doing the same thing.
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>>150380
>still
15 years to stop the spread, goyim

The one time I bothered going to a regional tourney they accepted a negative test shoved in the face, so get a $10 one from rite-aid, piss on it and keep it in a baggie I guess. Or just find something to blackmail the TOs I guess.
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>>150182
Here you go.
>>150402
That faggot has issues that go beyond Tekken.
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>>150405
he's on retardera, of course he has issues
Do you guys actually play fighting games or just shitpost about them
>>150411
Why not both?
>>150402
>doesn't know what a generic df2 is
Also
<13 to 11 dan
>tekken career
Dude has literally never played tekken in his life
>>150411
I play +R at least two or three times per week.  No other games really hold my attention, but I experimented a lot in my local scenes before the pandemic.
Shitposting is also fun.
>>150402
>named his dog optimus prime
This has to be fake
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>>150411
Of course I do, do you?
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>>150411
I occasionally play fighting games but I admit I haven't played them in a while. I think the most recent one I played was one of the older guilty gear fighting games. I should consider getting back into them. I think I might want to play Soul Calibur 6.
>>150411
Shitposting about them is a fighting game in itself
>>150405
>>150458
You can tell by the "FOH!" (fuck outta here -> "get the fuck out of here with [thing I don't like]) that he's a nigger.  I have no doubt that he would trash his own basement over a video game and name his dog Optimus Prime.
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>>150411
Both, mostly play though.
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>>150411
>not shitposting in game
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>>147816
It's about time Waldo mains got some recognition.
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This shit is so funny to me
It's a shit phone game, if you're wondering.
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>>150402
Imagine getting mad at a video game. I couldn’t imagine showing my kids an autistic rage side of me just because of a video game.
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>>150402
This person is a genuine lunatic, I feel sorry for his family.
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>>151741
>SNK asking money for palette swaps
And people thought they were any better than Crapcom
>>151741
>30FPS
Why even bother?
>>151818
>Matto Mattesi
GUAI A TE, CRISTIAN AIRTE, GUAI A TE
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>>151818
>he doesn't know
>>151741
I'm surprised at how bad the supers look; they're consistently bad for each of the three characters.
The final pose in Yashiro's super has these jerky cuts when the camera is pointed at the energy pillar, as though it's film footage being played on repeat.
Shermie's super is animated better but has very strange/bad choreography: she stuns her opponent, then jumps up, but we lose reference of where she is in relation to her opponent, so when does does the lightning wheel kick backwards it feels disorienting.  I literally thought "wait, what?" when I first saw that animation.
Chris's handheld flames don't sway when he moves his hands, which games released literally 20 years ago could get right.  It makes them look like plasma cutters, not fire.  This oversight extends to his poses in gameplay as well.  The choreography of his super is also very odd-looking, though I can't put my finger on exactly why.  It sort of reminds me of Dolores's super: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA58h0LXS_c
>zoom in and stun opponent (forward motion)
>melt down into mud (downward motion)
>mud flies up into the air (upward motion)
>mud turns into a hail of droplets/bullets (downward/forward motion)
The "down, up, down" motion in her super is incredibly strange and I can't ever get past it.  If she simply had mud rise around her and swirl up into the droplets in the air, that would look fine.

As for the characters, I've never been partial to KoF's aesthetic, so having characters in (gasp!) red and black clothing instead of their usual colours doesn't make me feel anything.  They don't really look or feel evil aside from very minor cues like red eyes and purple hair.  The garish purple flame effects and stylized 3D models make them seem lame when they should probably feel really intimidating.
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blazblue fags have 5 seconds to defend this
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>>151825
lol yeah their level 3s all look like shit that was one of the first things I said. Also didn't see Shermies projectile balls. Hope they didn't ax those. Also hoping for but not holding my breath her dp punch from '02
>>151818
Don't know if this is a shitpost
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>>151283

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=xVceHutyCQI
>>151921
BlazBlue fag here. That's pretty gay.
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The Helltaker fighting game dev released his first promo video.  The VA is pretty awful as expected, but I've been peeking into the game's discuck server and the dev seems like he's got a decent idea for how he wants to design the combat mechanics.
>ABC for attacks
>S for special moves
>taking inspiration from GG, MB, other airdashers with fairly short combos
The dev himself is Japanese so he's at least somewhat insulated from the typical Western FGC poz.  The game will probably be pretty casual, but it's a fun idea and I'm looking forward to the final product when it's eventually finished.
>>152295
DELETE THIS
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>>152316
I'll delete you
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Finally, the Melty Blood beta ends this summer. I might pirate it if pirate multiplayer works.
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>>152332
I want to lewd that cat and marry her.
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EVO is happening this weekend.  Huh, did that sneak up on anyone else?  The main stage won't have much of interest, but the side tournaments look pretty sweet.
>Super DBZ
>Aquapazza
>Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire
>Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
>Akatsuki Blitzkampf Ausf. Achse
>Kill la Kill IF (running a community patch, interestingly)
>Ultra Fight da Kyanta 2
>both Catherines
And fucking E's Laf++ snuck in there too.
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>>152593
Akatsuki Blitzkampf
Neat
>>152593
Really interesting stuff in there 
>VF5
>SF4
>ULTRA??? SF2 
>T5DR
>GGXRD2
>CVS2
>kusoges up the ass

I'll be watching VODs for a couple weeks.
>>152593
Cool, hopefully they all get monkeypox.
>>152600
It gets more ??? the more I look at it
>KOF 99 AND 02 on the main event
This really is three years worth of blueballs, everyone wants to play.
>Strive last 
Is this based on participants, is that how it made it past SF?

I'm tempted to do a cytube for it but I wouldn't be able to handle burger hours.
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>>152603
98 and 2002 are only in main stage because they got recent rereleases EVO can shill. You shouldn't hope anyone attends these things because it means they got the jab and are willing to admit it, which means they're total normalfags. In that light seeing all these great games on the side stage is actually pretty sad.
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>>152593
>a whole day of lumina
That game has players (outside of japan)?
>blazblue that dead
Jesus
>>152600
>>152603
Fucking street fight x tekken lamo
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>>152614
>That game has players (outside of japan)?
Probably gachaniggers since FagGO doesn't have it's own analog to GBVS. nu-Melty is the next best thing.
>street fighter x tekken
Wew, I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Is this some kind of outreach thing or is Soyny just that desperate to win people back after the groomer debacle?
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>>152600
>>ULTRA??? SF2 
The Switch port released at the start of the Switch's lifespan.  It has a few concessions to the joycons but is otherwise just another flavour of SF2, if memory serves.
>>152603
>participants
I'm not sure, though I do think popular games tend to have more entrants and thus tend to start their brackets earlier in the day.  And I think games that take longer to play tend to go earlier too.  You can see DBFZ has its top 8 last on Saturday in case it goes overtime, and KoFXV has its finals first thing Sunday morning.  I did a quick skim for EVO player numbers, but since it's so corporate they don't like to give out any information ahead of time.
I think Strive still has a pretty dedicated player base, and is the de facto anime game now that DBFZ has worn out its welcome and MBTL semi-flopped outside of Japan.  I know that its noob-friendly design has also encouraged more SF players to give it a try.

>>152614
>That game has players (outside of japan)?
I don't know the player distribution, but it's apparently selling well enough to support a couple season passes of free DLC.  Did you know that all the updates and content so far have been free?  I had no idea.  It's a shame French Bread are so bad at marketing, since they could rub that in other games' faces.
>>blazblue that dead
I think the rollback patch a) helped to satisfy BB players' collective blueballs and b) reminded everyone how much BB sucks.

>>152615
>Is this some kind of outreach thing
SFxT has had a bit of positive buzz about it in the last year or two; I've seen a couple """content creators""" mention it as a game that's actually really cool you guise srsly its cool, so it could just be that the half dozen people who still care about it decided to converge at EVO and show it off.
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>>152619
>I think Strive still has a pretty dedicated player base, 
It does sure, but enough to take SF's spot? I think I remember Strive having more participants than any other game and that might be why it's last. Either that or they paid for it.
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>>152726
I don't think there is any particular prestige associated with time slots within Sunday.  As long as a game is on Sunday, then it's sort of counted as "a real game."
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>>152726
>>152746
I think I remember specifically hearing during the evi reveal stream that it was all going to be down to number of registrations. I wonder if smash would have been last still if it was still there.
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Tried Tough Love Arena, some faggot did a video about it. Don’t like the visual design at all as it feels like it was made by some modern art student who wanted them to be not offensive, but I’m impressed by how well it runs as a browser on a phone. If a phone web browser can do rollback no one else has excuses. Its got enough people playing it at least, though most are too good for a scrub like me.
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>>152987
>300x168
Did you take that picture on a Nokia brick?
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>>152987
>rollback
>no excuses
rollback is the worst netcode method that's been put to paper
if a match ever goes over the intrinsic offline input delay of the game it should just dc
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>>152991
>I am a rapefugee trying too hard to fit in
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>>152991
I get it, but I also live in “bad internet land” with a poor connection even for here, so I got no options. My wired connection DBFZ  fight with no other net activity was once called wifi lag.
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>>152991
>another absolutely heinous post from the TOR ID
Like clockwork.

>>152994
What?
>>152994
The Eden part of that image makes it extremely faggy. Why a bot? You should have made it say "unless you reply thanks-bot" or some such so as to imply that the posters are bots and that that is the only source of the pph.
>>152993
I suspect I live in "worse internet land". About 60% of the games I've played have had a distance of 2000km+ and about half of those the other guy was on wifi this is ignoring however often the lag is my fault.
Rollback is worse than a delay. A fixed delay changes how the game is played and usually makes there heaps of unreactable dumb shit to the point where you may as well close your eyes during even the most tenuous fake mixup, but it's still a fighting game and you can look at the screen and make inferences about what is happening. Rollback takes that away completely; you might as well close your eyes at neutral since nothing that's presented on the screen has anything to do with what's actually happening. The simple fact of the matter is that if the prediction AIs worked you could just play a fucking AI but they obviously don't because they'd have to violate entropy to work the way they're supposed to, so actually rollback is playing with the opponent silent and invisible except when they're locked into an animation longer than your delay and the game catches up for twelve frames before they once again evaporate into a probability bubble of quantum foam.
Playing with rollback literally makes you worse at the game. If something that you HAVE to react to has a clear tell and you get fake impressions of that tell you will learn to not react to that. On a delay you'll react and get hit anyway, but not because you were fed wrong information, just because you were (artificially) too slow. But this applies to fucking neutral and judging spacing and inferring what your opponent is trying to do so you aren't even playing the fucking game, you certainly aren't playing your opponent.
A 30frame delay is literally playable. It's turbokusoge and not the game that the actual game is offline, but you can play it and you can even have fun. If you were there for the guest appearance of 「 KING CRIMSON 」 at MB:TL release you can make your own fucking judgement on whether 20f+ rollback is playable.
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is smash a fighting game? plz no bully
hate how artificial input lag has now become the norm, someone posted a video explaining how it shifts fighting games from a focus on skill to a focus on prediction, and ever since watching that i've felt nothing but disgust/contempt for smash because of it. it peaked with Wii U, Ultmate has too many glaring issues to make it worth learning the most heinous of which is samus' tit nerf
>>153000
I guess I agree yeah. Most of the times when my internet gets to that level of rollback or the rollback is bad enough itll just be a disconnect and can’t play, but I have played slow motion freeze frame DBFZ and had fun so maybe you’re right. I dunno, both delay and rollback have given me good and bad so i’ll shut up about it. 

What I really need is offline friends
>>153012
>Is upset that Smash has fallen away from skill based gameplay
>"Peaked with WiiU"
Lmfao
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>>153012
>smash peaked with [something after melee]
Is this bait?
The only good smash was N64 on a keyboard. Melee was alright too.
Smash64 without digital controls is a touch of death game though so it's bad in it's native form, since you probably can't mash the reduce fast enough on a stick to get out of combos.
>ever since watching that i've felt nothing but disgust/contempt for smash because of it
<not prat falls
<not developers explicitly saying they're tried to reduce elements of skill
<no, it was some eceleb telling you what to think
wew
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>>153016
melee is for autists and is boring as fuck to play and watch. it's always between the same five characters on the same five stages doing the same tricks/moves for 21 fucking years. something like project m where there are more than five competent characters and modded stages to play it makes it infinitely more fun. in fact i take it back, project m is better than sm4sh.
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>>153018
>it's always between the same five characters on the same five stages doing the same tricks/moves for 21 fucking years
You know what'd be even better? A game where it's the same two characters with no stage props using the same two moves forever
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>>153000
>A 30frame delay is literally playable
Honestly, you had me going for a bit because I know there are genuinely "people" stupid enough to believe this.  4/10 bait.

>>153012
>is smash a fighting game?
No.
>peaked with Wii U
No.
>>153021
It's not the same two, it's the same dozen or so with the same moves. Get it right.
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>>153012
You reminded me of this
>>153012
Is there one of these charts for Smash 5?  I kinda wanna see one for Alice Senki II.
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holy shit taiwan numbah wan
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GO POPPY
AY POPPY
OVERHEAD CRASH

~t. Garu Four Door
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>samsho grand finals
>no samsho chatacters
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>chad picked a random for his second character
lel
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got a grown man in a dress
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>>153310
average 2hu flaggot
how does the FGC manage to be the most autistic out of every other game genre?
>>153310
Anyone streaming so I can shitpost in the chat?
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>>153360
I was going to make a cytube but I figured everyone would complain I wasn't watching THEIR particular brand of autism so I didn't.
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>>153361
>mfw
>>153361
put on spooky cvs2 final 4 in a couple hours
or dont lol
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>open KoF stream
>ARRIBA ARRIBA AYEYEAYAY TACO BUSTERRRRR
fuckin A
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>>153367
02 is on too
>they they them
Oh god, the Soyny rot is in full effect
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>>153367
these taiwanese fucks are insane with the old school kof
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Taiwan number one.
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>>153394
You think Xiaohai gets chinapoints deducted if E.T. dunks on him?
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>taiwan won 98
>different taiwan won 02
>japan won CvS 2
the year of the yellow
>>153413
Are they gonna play eachother?
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>>153416
i think what i hate most about them winning is how they are completely 100% expressionless/emotionless. i'm not asking for hbox-tier autism popoffs but at least something like a smile on their face when they win a set would be good enough. they carry the exact same blank expression all the way through.
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>>153419
lol yeah. The American that won the losers finals in 02 jumped up and threw his fist in the air when he won that match. Still got raped by taiwan numba won
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transvestite or real gril?
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>>153431
ratty hair tells me it's a man, although the chest does look moderately convincing
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>>153432
Another angle. Considering it won, I'm leaning toward man. Phantom Miria, if that means anything to you
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>>153433
looks like he's about to hurl his fightstick across the convention lmao
i've lost to a tranny before, it's not fun
>>153431
>wide shoulders
>wide chest
>unkept "it's long so it's girly teehee" hair
>won

Male.
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>implying wide chest isn't feminine
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>>153432
>>153436
66% of the actual, XX chromosome women that would willingly go to EVO without being paid are autistic dweebs with zero self care skills and have shit hair. And the only reason it's 66% and not closer to 99.99% is because there's probably only 3 of them and one might have nice hair due to genetics.
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>>153439
>3DPD
Hideous.

>>153440
>social media photo layered in deepfake instagram filters
This doesn't clarify anything, though I think it should be obvious that anyone who actually wins in a fighting game is a man.  I've seen maybe one or two women in my entire life who actually know how to play.
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>>153441
I'm mostly convinced by the fact that >she has wider shoulders and a wider chest than I do working out daily. If that's really a woman, that is extremely unfortunate. There are women in there like cuddlecore who are clearly woman, just orc looking.
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>>153443
lmao thats a dude
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>>153449
How can this be??????
>>153449
>paying this much attention to your follower count so you can flex on your mentally ill followers that the sane ones have left the building
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BUCEE'S
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MOTHMAN
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tiwan nomr on
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thought this was the flag of ghana but i was wrong
what flag is this
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TAIWAN. NOMBR. ON.
>>153419
E.T. here actually gets pumped when he wins.
>>153506
Cameroon apparently. 

I’m gonna watch some of this all later. Any particular shit good or bad to watch?
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>>153513
I'm trying to post ones I've enjoyed, I wouldn't remember them otherwise.
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this one is promising
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i wish ramon wasnt abject trash
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VIVA MEHCO
Watching DBFZ and glad that they restarted a cell match when the intro was skipped so the crowd could AAAAAAAA
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If Arcsys makes a new fighterz game, what would it be? They wouldn't be able to do another Dragon Ball one, though they once did a thing with a 3ds dbz game could cross over with a one piece game. I think the best idea would be to just add another anime to the roster as a whole game, or just make a dofferent one that plays differently. I don't care too much which anime, just get at least one other anime out of 3d arena hell.
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how the mighty have fallen
anyway fenrich ded
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frog won
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>this nigga STILL watching
fuckin hell, I went to sleep 12 hours ago

Does anyone have a stream archive of E's Laf ++?
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>>153553
lel i watched like a quarter of that wtf was that
goodnight
>>153551
what the fuck is going on
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>>153551
Did he get tackled by his trap “girlfriend” at the end?
>>153018
See, you should have said that from the start. Project M/Project + is the thinking man's Smash Bros.
>>153559
He relaxed.
KOFXV top 8 started
Damn, E.T. got flushed down the shitter
WOW i got drunk
>wake up for losers finals
>get up for grands
I'm stoked the guy that took 98 is here in grand finals.
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what did i say about taiwan nombr?
it ON.
TAWIWAN NOMR ON
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Alright time for some real shit. I don't want to say it, but I'm afraid arslan ash is going to poke everyone to death again. Aren't you excited? What about the mandatory epic logo reveal for tekken 8 with absolutely no gameplay shown whatsoever, you like those right?
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>>153603
number one you say?
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>>153608
orochi aug 9
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new garou greenlit
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Well, that leak from last year turned out to be 100% correct. With the announcement of team samsho it is official.
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>>153607
>arslan ash on losers
Nevermind then. And immediately against this pinha newcomer, that's gonna be fun.
>>153607
>the pakis
I hope they make Korea cry again.  I'm incredibly sick of "legacy players" in Tekken acting like they're God's gift to video games.  The single exception to this is Rangchu, who has the decency to play an interesting character.  Apparently there's a Jap using Maven, which is also pretty cool; I hope he does well.
>excited
Meh.  I'm ambivalent about Tekken but it's usually clear enough to watch.  The commentators are very corporate and dry, but I can stand listening to them unlike the autistic niggers like Ryuudo who nearly ruined +R top 4.
>Tekken 8
I genuinely don't know what they'll do since Tekken 7 was a roaring success for a long time, but I'm sure they'll find a way to disappoint.  I'd like for them to make some big changes and cut most of the fat from Tekken's mechanics (wall jumps, weird semi-hitstun states, etc.) and encourage stuff like backdash cancelling with better animations.
>logo reveal
Sans serif font on a white or black background.
>first match is Capcom vs SNK
Good work, Harada.
<meo-il vs knee
>poke poke poke backdash poke backdash poke duck poke duck backdash poke poke backdash backdash duck poke duck backdash poke backdash poke poke poke poke backdash poke backdash poke duck poke duck backdash poke poke backdash backdash duck poke duck backdash poke backdash poke poke poke poke backdash poke backdash poke duck poke duck backdash poke poke backdash backdash duck poke duck backdash poke backdash poke poke poke poke backdash poke backdash poke duck poke duck backdash poke poke backdash backdash duck poke duck backdash poke backdash poke
>TIME UP
Riveting.
<jeondding vs rangchu
>rangchu loses the Julia mirror, then switches to Panda
>gets run over by mids and pokes because bears can't move
A sad day.
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>>153633
Knee plays the most optimal way, and that's what it is. He can move around you and poke you to death, so that's what he does and I would say he does that better than anyone else. As for rangchu, that's what he gets for tierwhoring nothing more and nothing less. Jeondding didn't do anything out of the ordinary.
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>>153636
>optimal
I have a hard time believing that.  Whiff punishing is one thing, but it almost looked like he was avoiding doing combos.
>rangchu tier whoring
I suppose you're right.  That's a shame; I really wanted to believe he'd surprise everyone with the bears.
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>>153638
>it almost looked like he was avoiding doing combos.
He couldn't. Moving like that, almost as if he's magnetically repelling the opponent, takes a lot of concentration. He has insane movement but he doesn't have the ability to react and whiff punish with launchers, that's why he plays feng, he is the best character to poke at mid range.
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>Eddy Gordo makes it into top 4
Hell yeah.

>>153639
Neat.
It didn't matter who won on arslan/superakouma, everyone loses.
I was only half paying attention to grand finals, but it was pretty good.  I'd have liked for the backdash robot to be pushed a bit harder, but he played well.
>>153639
And that's why he did it. Movement is the most important part of this game. He missed a lot of whiff punishes but he was consistent, but more importantly, his defense put a colossal pressure on all his opponents. Khan could have won the last game but he was constantly second guessing himself and never hit confirmed the launcher.
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>wall bounds
I have endured 7 years of screws for this.
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SFV's up next, for anyone who wanted help falling asleep.
>tfw LI Joe turned into an esports shill
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>>153638
Feng launchers are all either short or super unsafe (except f4->b, but highcrush counterhits), which means if both players are playing conservatively you'll either whiff and explode or get blocked and explode. His hopkick isn't bad but it's too stubby to just throw it out as a generic launcher
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nice tits faggot
>>153691
SF V was just in time for me to have to go do stuff that required my attention, good timing. Tekken had some good moments.
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>>153614
NO TAMTAM NO BUY
lol this scrubby nigger is about to win it all
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>>153734
Looks like it, he is quickly moving through everyone.
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Wew at the last possible match the Nip overtakes the nog
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evo japan
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>>153743
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>>153743
Looks like Juri got her divekick back, huh
lmaoing at that nogs bulbous 5head
>>153748
everyone is gay for bridget
>>153748
>the fucking tranny symbol
Japan keeps cucking itself over and over again.
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>>153762
Japan loves aping American culture, for better or worse.
>>153748
Catering to the fans for more DLC bux.
>>153748
>buss is back on the menu
Finally, but it wont be gay this time.
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>>153773
Don't be quick to say USA, I don't usually go out of my way to announce this but that USA player is an actual tranny or at the very least prefers they/she pronouns.
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>>153775
FAGGOT AMERICAN NOMBR ON
>>153748
>testament is a tranny
>elphelt is a dude
>bridget
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>Bridget is available for PC i believe, but you can't buy him* yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs_kL3IaC5U
>Bridget now probably has a HS button, which means all of the crazy Xset yoyo options is dead
>boiled down to a 236 / 214 S/HS input, similar to strive testament in with the button press
>dedicated air foot stomp, goes completely down
>starship is no longer a standing DP, it rises bridget up now
>bear only gets used during super

*which in other news: he's a she or a they, not too sure because the lore uses both pronouns :^)
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>>153785
>not too sure because the lore uses both pronouns :^)
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>>153449
>37 unfollowed the tranny
>the rest are twitter bots
kek
LGBTFO

>>153743
I don't care about Street Fighter anymore since they started chasing the "e-sports" niggers, but i must say i am glad they are finally toning down that awful "giant hands and feet" art style Ono was so fond of.

I am utterly disappointed in those of you still caring about about evo and giving "pro-player" faggots any attention.
>>153785
THAT GIRL HAS A DICK!
>>153762
>japan
GG was always westaboo trash
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>>153795
SAY THAT AGAIN WITH A BUMP
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>>153792
Fuck you, I miss Ono.
>>153792
>I am utterly disappointed in those of you still caring about about evo and giving "pro-player" faggots any attention.

I like the games, and the games are about competing. EVO is open entry, no sponsors, no invitationals, no grand tours where you need sponsors (eceleb fame) to be able to fly to different tournaments to get points to be able to make it to finals. I like watching people do the absolute best you can do in the game in that environment because it's fun to watch. I only care about a player's main and his playstyle. I have no idea what they do in between EVOs, outside the game they can go back to their minimum wage job and save for another ticket to Las Vegas next year for all I care.
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>>153797
Guilty Gear was always westaboo trash.
The games were always bad, the music was always god awful, and the designs were always pure faggotry. Daisuke is a hack with shit taste. GG was always a love letter to western values (i.e. shit) and it shows at every level.
There's no denying any of this. At best you could argue that you like western trash, which would make you a faggot. Guilty Gear deserved to die in the pachinko parlors, but it's nice to see people in denial of the fact that literally everything wrong with strive is a GG problem.
>>152619
0% of BB players even tried the rollback patch afaik also, it wasn't good netcode. Every western player was already using remote-desktop "local" multiplayer which is by definition better than a peer to peer connection can be and japanese players only ever really played offline in the first place.
I wonder if BB died off completely because it lost the last of it's arcade space. I know most of the western BBtag players went to GBFVS or french bread or strive, depending on their background.

Does undernight suck now? I know when it left arcades originally the broader anime community talked about it like it was the second coming of christ and indeed it was a lot of fun but the later expansions lost my interest (and it became so incontrovertibly a discord fighter) and I've basically not heard about it for a few years.

>>153532
>I don't care too much which anime, just get at least one other anime out of 3d arena hell.
It's a non-sequitur, but if I could make one fighting game wish it'd be to get bloody roar but magical girls instead of werefurries.
>a new fighterz game
One piss is definitely the most conducive to a variegated cast that nonetheless duel on semiequal terms out of the big three.
<jojo
Jojos is already an established fighting gay series dude.
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>>153779
>elphelt is a dude
That's a new one.  Where'd you come up with it?

>>153792
>kek
>BTFO
<"you guys are stupid, unlike myself"
Please slit your wrists.

>>153785
>translators jerk themselves off over pronouns again
I can't wait for all this to end.

>>153801
>EVO is open entry
Yeah.  As bad as fighting game events are for esports shilling, they're still way better than many other types of esports like CSGO that are only open to "professional" players who are too scared to play against Joe Average.

>>153822
>my opinion is better than yours
Okay fag.
>0% of BB players even tried the rollback patch
I suppose next you'll say that a game reaching its all-time peak player count explicitly due to rollback implementation doesn't matter.  I don't like BB but I'm very happy that the people who do like it can play their game functionally online.
>also, it wasn't good netcode.
>remote-desktop "local" multiplayer which is by definition better than a peer to peer connection can be
What are you smoking?
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>>153825
>>my opinion is better than yours
>Okay fag.
I mean, you're entitled to think that western trash isn't shit, and I'm entitled to think that you're a faggot for doing so. It wouldn't be my opinion if I didn't think it was better than yours (assuming it differs), would it?
>a game reaching its all-time peak player count
<playing BB on steam
I'll say exactly that, yes. "The game had it's all time peak in Ghanan players". Okay? People tried the rollback patch and then immediately gave up on playing over steam. As your own graph demonstrates, the significant majority of people who played BB before the patch and the significant majority of people who play BB less than two months after the patch aren't on steam.
>What are you smoking?
What are YOU smoking? A server exactly between two people has (exactly, software permitting) half the round trip pingpong to each person as each person has to the other, raw.
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>>153825
>my opinion is better than yours
that's the case 100% of the times, my opinion is always right and everyone else is always wrong
>>153833
>TOR ID makes another absolutely hideous post
Do you ever get tired of this?

>"BB player numbers don't count because I say so"
The vast majority of all airdasher/anime fighting games outside of arcades are played on PC, which means Steam for any game that doesn't have a caster or Fightcade equivalent like JoJo HTTF, MBAACC, or EFZ.  You are welcome to provide numbers from elsewhere if you want to try proving that more people play on some other platform, but of course we both know you won't.  I think the real reason so few people play BB is that the game sucks and it doesn't have anywhere near the momentum it did when it first released.
To put it more succinctly, there might not be very many BB players, but any of them who isn't in a Japanese arcade is using Steam to netplay (and even the arcade players are likely using Steam some of the time).

>remote-desktop "local" multiplayer
>server exactly between two people
>a 100ms RTT trip is worse than two 50ms RTT trips
What do you think the word "server" means?
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>>153854
>which means Steam
Most of this is weak bait as usual but I'd like to imagine that GGfags are still using steam matchmaking, it'd just be so fucking perfectly appropriate
I guess they are either way since they're playing strive but still
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>>153858
>vomit retarded shit via the keyboard
<actually, that isn't true
>y-you're bait!
What alternatives to Steam do you believe exist on PC for public matchmaking?  BBCF isn't on Fightcade so that isn't an option.
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>>153859
>public matchmaking
>anime games
The reason I don't play anime games is that for most series, 99.9%+ of online 'matchmaking' is over discord.
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>>153861
>>153858
Wait, strive had already moved to using discord to coordinate fucking arcsys lobbies within three days of release what the fuck am I saying.
I had totally forgotten the >absolute state of GGfags
lol
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>>153860
I don't understand japanese much but I definitely heard "onna" at the end there
worrying indeed, I knew capcuck was getting worse with their censorship and advocated against supporting them until they stopped (and putting pressure on them), but if they're taking literal tranny narratives its much worse there than I thought.
>>153861
In >>153833 you said:
>People tried the rollback patch and then immediately gave up on playing over steam
>over steam
The Steam version of BBCF is the only one with rollback, so either you meant that BB players went back to consoles for delay-based hell or that there must be an alternative.

If your premise is "BB's player numbers are low and I can't find people to play with," then that's one thing, but why do you do all this conjecture about how players act?
I played the BBCF rollback beta, and I literally found a bunch of other newbies to play with just by making a player lobby and waiting for people to join.  Obviously this is harder to do with a smaller player base, but if I'd continued to play the game and improve then I'd be able to play against and enjoy a wider range of opponents.

>>153862
And why do you keep brining up GG like it killed your dog or something?  I'm trying to get a straight answer out of you about BB.
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>>153865
>I'm trying to get a straight answer out of you about BB
<what is a server?
Why don't you look it up?
>The Steam version of BBCF is the only one with rollback, so either you meant that BB players went back to consoles for delay-based hell or that there must be an alternative.
>delay based hell
Having half the delay but it's input delay is a lot better than having twice the delay but it's "only" visual delay, particularly in a nonsense crossup teleport kusoge with actual airmovement like BB. Arcsys has never released rollback netcode in their life that didn't add artificially to the delay too, so it's a lot more than twice.
>why do you do all this conjecture about how players act?
What conjecture? I know BB players. They play hotseat vs. over parsec using a third party that both players are connecting to. They picked this up from the american pro scene where it was shilled.
>I played the BBCF rollback beta, and I literally found a bunch of other newbies to play with just by making a player lobby and waiting for people to join.  
Yeah, you didn't find a single other blazblue player. You found people who didn't like BB and didn't play it, and then shortly continued to not play it. How the fuck do you think this is supporting your point? You didn't play before the rollback patch, you played for less than a month, then you didn't play after the rollback patch. Like the people you found. Who weren't playing with other people from the community who that they contacted out of game (i.e. over discord these days, historically over IRC), which is what the blazblue players were doing before, after, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear during the spike in steam players.
<Fightcade
People don't playing fucking melty or EFZ over fightcade, are you retarded?

I don't know how you're so good at coming up with this retarded fucking shit when you literally can't perform simple addition with the help of a computer, but jesus fuck dude
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>>153875
>They play hotseat vs. over parsec using a third party that both players are connecting to.
>parsec
I've seen this happen once or twice, only before the rollback was added.  Under ideal circumstances with a stable connection, no packet loss, no jitter, etc. then I suppose it's tolerable.  The headache of setting it up far outweighs any of the upsides you seem to think it has over proper rollback.

>Having half the delay but it's input delay is a lot better than having twice the delay but it's "only" visual delay
If the RTT between both players is <150ms, the difference between input delay and visual delay is meaningless, and I think that's what you refuse to understand.  In a delay-based solution, any fluctuations in RTT or any packet loss will cause much stuttering as the game readjusts, but in a rollback solution you get maybe one visual artifact and then you're back to normal.  You keep trying to present this false choice between "consistent, solid, functional" input delay and "unpredictable, visual garbage" rollback but the fact is that if the rollback solution doesn't need to do anything beyond a small input delay then it doesn't.

You can literally just play people with <100 ping anywhere in your country or continent, and if they have stable connections then you don't get the teleporting slideshow rollbacks that you keep insisting are everywhere.  This is why I ask you things like "what is a server?" because you obviously don't grasp the basic technical details about how networking is done for these games.

>playing BB for hours and making a genuine effort to learn it doesn't make you a BB player
>a huge increase in people who tried a game, some of whom continued to play it, means that nobody plays it
>you aren't a BB player if you use the public lobbies that have people in them
And you're the one calling my posts bait?  BB didn't become my main game, but I did make a genuine effort to get into it and take it seriously.  If I had liked the mechanics more, then I would have kept playing it - and I'm sure that a meaningful number of people did that.  All of this is lost on you, of course.

>which means Steam for any game that doesn't have a caster or Fightcade equivalent like JoJo HTTF, MBAACC, or EFZ
<People don't playing fucking melty or EFZ over fightcade, are you retarded?
You can't read.
I’ve had a couple bad rollback games, but most of the time its fine. Even at its most visually glitchy the gameplay itself and combo timings work and I prefer that to the hell of constant no good mathes I get with delay. 
Games that put effort into rollback usually (BUT ONLY USUALLY) have good matchmaking too. I remember trying VF5:US on release night with a solid ethernet connection and getting no matches for a fucking hour, then the next morning getting a stable match on a wifi shit internet switch for power rangers bftg within 2 seconds.
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>>153938
>dead weight
But it's still an LA poz party. If you got rid of all the dead weight there wouldn't be anybody left.
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>>153940
>But it's still an LA poz party
Ok, they got rid of one load and have floated high enough to actually deliver some good characters. I'll take what I can get
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>tfw forced to delete my bridget folder
Never played Guilty Gear before (might have to pick it up since I wanna get good at fighting games and hear it’s good), but I saw that Bridget was trans in the post above me in my home page and I’ve gotta say that’s extremely based and I’m totally glad to see it! Happy Trails, cowboys, cowgirls, and other raw yeehaws! ❤️👍
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>>153950
Why? At least now, its not gay.
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>>153967
>Trap-Girl
Nigga, that's clearly a moth.
>At least now, its not gay.
He's now a futa. Is futa gay?
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>>153950
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
Japan is lovely as ever. Was Bridget the first trap in vidya? Or does Poison get that?
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>>153950
>Having a bridget folder in the first place
What are you fucking gay?

>>153974
Thing was, it was meant to be a joke, and his original story was him trying to prove and show that he was a man. That licensing debacle and GG2 Overture really fucked up this series.
This means more Bridget artwork.
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>>153969
>Nigga, that's clearly a moth.
Why are there so many mentally ill faggots trannies and queers playing guilty gear and are everywhere in the fighting games community? 

How did it get this bad fast?

What happened to the people that used to gatekeep fgc? Most of the old players have either been cancelled or are done completely 

Why is Japan catering to these faggots?
>>153991
They cried the loudest.
>>153982
Leaves me wondering what their play is from here. Do they just keep Bridget exactly the same, so now he's a boy that says he's a girl or do they introduce some sort of magical sex change, because that's well within the realm of possibility for GG's stupid lore... or do they insist that Bridget, manly mercenary and world-class fighter, is now on HRT and getting his dick chopped up? 

Either way, does Bridget show up in the next game fully transformed, or do they just tweak his outfits and pretend like some meaningful change has been made when in reality, the only thing the character had going for him was the trap gimmick.

I also wonder who got the Arcsys. I bet some skeezy faggot convinced the higher ups that "trap" is a slur and is deeply offensive to Americans, or some shit.
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>>153991
Testament was a dude, forced to become a gear against his will, and was merged with succubi into whatever abomination he is now. You could get away with calling Testament an it, or even a they. But undoing all of Bridget's character development and calling him a girl, or God forbid any other pronoun fucking nonsense is a travesty and reason enough alone to hate troons and wish them all death.
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>>153991
Let's be real: The only people creaming themselves over this Bridget shit are:
1) only in it for the e-drama, because they think "making the chuds mad" is worth wasting their lives on
2) people who never played guilty gear, but are overly invested in spreading tranny shit all over every anime and video game fandom, so they'll take this win
3) turbo autists and groomers who actively believe anything slightly deviating from gender norms so rigid they make the TradNats look progressive makes someone a tranny.
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>>153991
>Why are there so many mentally ill faggots trannies and queers playing guilty gear and are everywhere in the fighting games community?
Since the mentions of the next installment after Xrd and it's expansions, Daiskue has said that the next installment would be more accessible for a larger audience. Looks like it included pandering to such faggots as well. 
>How did it get this bad fast?
It wasn't fast. It was a slow buildup that took it's time corrupting the medium. Pretty much followed the same pattern as others that had the same fate (first starts as a joke, certain people start bringing up how it's wrong, play on emotions, get more on their side, then eventually make it a crime to mock or persecute). 
>What happened to the people that used to gatekeep fgc? Most of the old players have either been cancelled or are done completely
Pretty much answered your question. They may have joined their ranks if they didn't quit. 
>Why is Japan catering to these faggots?
Most of the game companies in Japan are probably noticing a drop in native sales, but an increase in international sales. Seeing how such faggots are the most vocal (or the ones allowed a voice at all), and corporate being corporate, they think it's the new way of things and try to make profit off of the situation. Whether or not they believe their narrative depends on those running it (in ASW's case, given their recent stances on current events, they more than likely believe it). 

If you really want to get technical, multiple Jap games had messages that sided with some of their bullshit for decades before shit got really bad (anti-racism being a prominent one. Off the top of my head Tales of Symphonia, Fire Emblem, and Valkyria Chronicles). It was just more overshadowed by good gameplay and fanservice. Not all games were and knew to avoid such topics (thankfully some still do), but they were there. 

>>153996
>Do they just keep Bridget exactly the same, so now he's a boy that says he's a girl or do they introduce some sort of magical sex change?
Given the shit they pulled in Blazblue with Mai Natsume, I wouldn't put it past them to do the same here. 
>or do they insist that Bridget, manly mercenary and world-class fighter, is now on HRT and getting his dick chopped up? 
Don't give them ideas.
>I also wonder who got the Arcsys. I bet some skeezy faggot convinced the higher ups that "trap" is a slur and is deeply offensive to Americans, or some shit.
Given Daiskue's history, it was more than likely him.
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>>154013
Back to your cyclical faggot
Can't hide your failure that easily hanging foreskin.
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>>154013
Why don't you just fucking make your own, then? All I ever see people do is whinge over this shit happening, but never cracking open a fucking programming book and learning to fucking code. 
I'm doing so, but I fucking suck at learning, keeping my shit together mentally, and vastly underestimated how much work goes into making a game, but I'm still god damned chipping away each day at either working on learning, or learning to keep myself together.
If any of you are even half less pathetic than I am, than fucking crack open the documentation and make something stylish. Eric July fucking did it, and he's utterly god damned thrashing the western comics industry in sales, with his own unpozzed comic.
Why am I the only fucking one I ever see just making something, doesn't even have to be vidya, and just refusing to buckle to the woke bullshit? The only saving grace in my fucked pathetic mental is that 
 in my dayjob I work for my parents, they know I'm a racist bigoted asshole, and I have so much free time that if I can just get my shit together I'll be able to crank out games like a machine. You can't be fucking cancelled if you just fucking ignore the woke mob, and have secure income independent of that shit.

>but what about Steam/paypal/itch.io/whatever
what the fuck about them? the fucking sourcecode to this is, and anything I make, is going to be free and open, and I'm gonna host a torrent of the games myself. Just fucking do the same and lay low, and only talk about your own shit in a plausibly deniable way on image boards, if you ever want to let other Anons know you're doing something like this. 
There's a whole ocean of gamers out there desperate for something wicked cool, with maximum fun, if you know what makes a game good all it takes is a few years of hard work to give 'em what they want.
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>>154057
>If this person is as successful as you say, how come this is the first time I'm hearing of him?
do you read comics, and pay attention to what the anti-wokes are doing? If not then of course you haven't heard about him, every platform is trying to suppress Isom right now, right down to trying to make it so he can't take payments or ship the books. Your opinion on Eric/Rippa doesn't change the fact that some nigger and his crew are making nearly four fucking million off their indie comic, in just a few weeks, out of a god damned warehouse


>SJWs have seized all means of creation
Bullshit. FOSS engines exist, and when you learn the basics to syntax and logic, you can even write shit from scratch in C. If you're using fucking Godot and the cucks behind it have a problem with you doing so, legally they can't disbar you from actually using the engine, only restrict access to communities they're in charge of for feedback or guidance.

>Just let us have our fucking funeral in peace.
I'll let you fucking have it when shit's actually dead. You wanted to be part of counter culture by not fucking taking the mainstream narratives at face value, what the fuck did you think that would mean? Did you seriously fucking think being a dissident meant you'd have support from the current culture? Fuck no, it means you're like god damned hackers and boot loader crackers of old, with every big money'd interest breathing down the distributors necks to try and shut you the fuck down. 

But sure, if you're too much of a cuck to do something yourself, you could at least see if some Anon devs could use funding.
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>>154060
>actually fucking replying to niggerpill
hownew.ru
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>>153996
>I also wonder who got the Arcsys. I bet some skeezy faggot convinced the higher ups that "trap" is a slur and is deeply offensive to Americans, or some shit.
ArcSys has an office in California which employs at least one furry.

>>153999
This is correct, though you lose points for adopting the language of the enemy and using terms like "gender norms".
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>>154062
It's an excuse to drop some motivation to the Anons here. Never forget the solution is as simple as making something cool, and ignoring the woke mob.
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>>154066
What the hell does "My opinions are my own" even mean? I've seen it on almost every normalfag profile I've ever come across. Is it implying that "What I say is exclusively my own view"? or "my opinions are my own intellectual property"? I don't get it. 
Posting my fighting game wife to stay on topic.
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>>154111 (nice trips)
Based 2booty enjoyer.
>>154111
Have you not noticed everyone who writes that has "MCMAJOR HR NIGGER IN CHARGE OF POZCORP" in the profile too?
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>>154111
It's basically a partial safeguard against being fired for offending people on the internet, as long as the mob trying to get you fired isn't too massive. It generally only works if you're a leftist working for a leftist company.
Essentially it just means "this is my personal account not related to my job, even though I put my exact function in my bio to show I have authority, now fuck off plebian"
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>>154133
No I saw that part too. I was just confused as to what it meant.
>>154138
That's really gay but I guess that's the kind of stuff you'd expect from mainstream leftism. Thanks for clearing it up.
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>>154111
It means that they like to suck cocks. You know, the usual.
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>>154142
Cute video.
>It means that they like to suck cocks. You know, the usual.
Heh, video 1 related.
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>>154258
coomer get out
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>>153998
>But undoing all of Bridget's character development
in all reality if trannies weren't disingenuous asshats they would be appalled by this change in character, since Bridget was "assigned at birth" to be a girl and rebelled against it, the original character matches their "stated" philosophy better but, we all know, it's not actually about people's rights with these clowns
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>>154259
>not the "ask god to fug you" version
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I hear from an unreliable source that those voice clips are from Bridget's bad ending where he gives up being manly.
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>>154313
No, unless the "bad ending" involves a heckin valid wholesome grooming session from other GG characters who tell Bridget to chop off his dick.
>>154293
Get out of my head anon I thought the same thing
>>154008
When did Japan become so fucking cucked? It seems they’re really hard bent on being liberal and progressive nowadays. Even if it is for sales there’s no reason to be pandering this hard. Is it sonys faggotry influencing these companies even Nintendo is affected 

The fgc will no longer be the fun ghetto trash it used to be will it
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>>154335
[100ml of nigger semen has been added to your account]
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>>154337
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>>154369
me rn
>>154369
That poor boy.
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>>154335
>When did Japan become so fucking cucked? It seems they’re really hard bent on being liberal and progressive nowadays
Between the new Pokemon game, the release of Globohomoblade Censorcles 3, and this, we can safely say Japan is a lost cause.
>>154400
>still taking shit out of context in XB3
Nigger.
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>>154400
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>>154400
>third image
>woman who makes a shitty manga going full blown woke
What is there to even gleam from this, retard? It's not even vidya related.
I pirated the SF 30th anniversary collection and only have a keyboard.
I want to get one of those joystick thingys to i can avoid having arthritis at an early age.
>>154452
>I want to get one of those joystick thingys to i can avoid having arthritis at an early age.
Lel
Stick players all destroy their wrists
So do pad players
>>154452
keyboard / hitbox / ABCs are technically better
most stick users use their wrist to move around
>>154452
Keyboards and buttonboxes are way easier on your hands than arcade sticks.  How were you holding your hands such that it hurt to play a game but didn't hurt to type?
If you retards had braincells or weren't such lazy niggers to learn Japanese you would know that the whole "OH MY GOD BRIDGET IZ TRANZZ!!" is bullshit and that trannies, per usual, are lying about the context and meaning of the words in the JP version game, thus making it a localisation thing. He only ever somewhat seriously identifies as a woman in the bad ending of the game as his goal was to become more manly, but the bad endings of GG are not canon. The other times he calls himself a girl is only as a joke and reference to 男の娘 culture of tricking men into thinking they're girls. The official GG site does not confirm he is a tranny nor mentions any male or female pronouns at all, but this is due to how Japanese differs so much from English. So any 50%ers claiming it is official just outed themselves as lying tourist who take shit out of context and not knowing a lick of Nipponese. He still makes mentions of himself being male and is still trying to pursue his goal since accent. Both nip artists and fans alike still refer to Bridget as a dude, because they don't have the same version of the game as the US does and simply don't care what LGBTPedophiles think. Go to pixiv and you will see every Bridget pic tag him as 男の娘. 


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>>154846
There's also a whole scene of him getting literally groomed so it goes a little further than localization bullshit if that's actually the case.
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