Look at this fucking board >>>/bmn/
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Clan Big Guys 4U continues to grow. New classes are welcome. We have a solid 11 or 12+ players right now. There's plenty of room for hot heads around here. Step forward, those that would serve.
Old thread: >>97665
Older thread: >>92958
Client Download Links: https://justpaste.it/6fdnw
Which Class to Play: https://archive.vn/YDpgf
Short Leveling Guide: https://interlude.wiki/
Ancient Russian texts of general wisdom (warning: Google Translate required beyond this point):
Please feel free to explore the game and ask us questions about which class you might find interesting if you don't already know. You could play whatever you want or can find something that will fit our master plan, motivating us to power level you. Powerleveling can occur regardless if you really want to join us in group play. There's still a few players at various levels if you want to take it slow and just hang out with us.
To contact us in game, type /friendlist followed by the enter key. Add one of the following names to get an invite and initial support.
Clan Leader: DiaUBERGOLD or ImustBuff
Whisper him or ImustRecharge for Based Department.
If they're not online for some reason, try PanzerKitchen, SkellyKelly, Screech, Brogue, or MasterGun.
If none of them are online, try Araramis.
Whatever you do, do not contact Trizess. He will find you, and he will kill you!
Some colorful pics for the guy that always complains. Here's some pretty buff graphics for you.
Btw, I can't find my shots from inside Garden of Eva. It's truly a beautiful sight inside a mega structure that's under the ocean.
There's a lot of impressive artwork on the mobs.
I don't take a lot of screenshots, but this one stood out as really cool. Headless knight.
This is a far away pic, but some spells in this game are really beautiful.
We have a spare Archmage account that we can powerlevel with, and one of these disks flew right toward my face, making me flinch!
I don't know if this was a bug or what
Some playable characters are downright gorgeous.
BTW, Zorldo has been with us since the start, and although he's not lvl 40 with CT quest, he deserves an honorary theme song.
The grind kills many, so he's ironically the Nascar driver Sparkyplugg Bob Holly.
But if you know Holly's career as a professional jobber, it's not ironic at all!
Get 40 and you'll graduate to being Hardcore Holly.
Also btw if anybody goes afk and causes someone else to go to jail due to captcha, this will automatically become your new theme song.
tell me what this game is and why i should play it
Sadly this is not my department. I just make autistic posts. I'm sure Dai can handle this portion of the recruiting.
I can give it a go though.
MMO released in 2004 made in Korea with very dense grind content.
It's a market sim game with a bountiful resource economy maintained by active players, which as the league of shadows, we aim to crash with prejudice.
There's 31 classes to choose from among 5 playable races, so there's bound to be at least one or two of your playstyle.
This server is very well maintained with anti-bot and anti-cheat mechanics which keeps the playing field even and the community strong.
There was a batch of Brazilians at the top of the endgame that were just banned en masse for real money trading.
It's a slow burn with a lot of nuance. It's a social game. It's a competitive pvp game the higher you go in levels which is kept in check through a fairly advanced PK system. There's a lot of fun simple quests to play after you've farmed up the drop items.
This game has a lot to offer.
I think there's about 15 regular players in the clan, 8-12 of which log in just about every day.
There's bosses to kill with full party (9) raids as you level.
There's solo areas, group areas, areas strong or weak to your specific class.
It's a very large open world.
Nothing is instanced.
High yield areas for drops are often contested.
Tank, melee dps, archers, magic dps, summoner classes, buffers, mana rechargers, and healer classes.
Each class has strengths and weaknesses in pve and pvp.
There's a long guide in the OP "Which Class to Play."
And a brief guide of each class (one or two sentence description) in the "Short Leveling Guide."
The choice is yours, to play or not.
Can't force you. You're a big guy for me.
I will say most of us are having fun on a regular basis.
The grind is excruciating at times, but it builds character and comradery.
That all being said... don't play.
>There was a batch of Brazilians at the top of the endgame that were just banned en masse for real money trading.
>trading real money
>on a fucking MMO game
Went exploring and found ToI floor 1-4 deserted. Cant go higher since going through the floor but look at this fucker
We also scouted Antharas Lair and Valley of Saints.
Tanks and healers will be nice to have for close quarter areas like the lair. Valley has open space for running. A lot of B-gear spoils to be found out there.
Not a bug just an old event item probably. Big Head Potions were common thing in the base game as an event reward
How do we powerlevel in this game?
It depends on the toon the person is playing. There are some strats at certain levels depending on the class that's being power leveled.
One general option is to have someone play a strong carry toon like destro or a particular mage.
Mana Recharger follows and buffs and regens mana.
We can have multiple running trains while out of party.
Bishop was given gear to be able to solo periodically. Was joined by a dark elf wizard to turret some mobs. Other times with any other conveniently matching level toon.
We have multiple alts or alt accounts with random level toons.
Life uh... finds a way.
Bishop can't really dps down mobs, so training mobs to it doesn't really enable it. Have to have someone in pt to kill the mobs for it.
There's gentle PLing like Recharge training mobs to people from lvl 15-20, where that noobie toon kills the mobs that can't kill Recharge.
There's also fast respawn locations that a mage alt can act as a turret with support of Recharge.
Basically you need Recharge logged into the game. haha
There's many other options available.
This is what the fuck I'm talking about.
Great work, you two.
how do we raid enemy clan castles?
1) everyone gets max level
2) get one to ten billion adena
3) bid on a castle
Assuming that I remember right
>2.1) Ally with a powerful clan, getting into an agreement to share the castle rights every other siege period
>2.2) Gear everyone, put CP pots/overench on everyone
>2.3) Put on some combat training to make at least two combat parties
>3) Bid on a castle
>3.2) Don't die as our two parties (we're not getting more than 18 people from thread) face around 60-100 enemy clan's defense on average
>no one in the party knows this
I am fucking disappointed in all of you.
>The clan owner sets a time and date for the siege from the options given. In Reborn they happen every weekend (?).
>All ally and enemy clans sign up at the castle NPC.
>Siege happens during a two (?) hour window.
>Attackers need to destroy gates or wall, infiltrate into castle and destroy a CRYSTAL at the core room, usually behind the throne (at this point, siege is over).
>Defenders can hire NPC mercenaries and other shit to help with the defense.
>Sometimes there's a raid boss defending the throne (Rune castle?)
>Beware limitations during the siege like not being able to teleport to a town under siege, or ressurrecting on the siege field around the castle.
Do players defend their own castle too? Or they set up obstacles in the form of NPCs?
to deadlita, sorry I couldn't log back in afterwards, their auth server was fugged or something for a while. here's some screenies.
>no one in party knows スパイダマン
bullshit, fucking love that shit
YE YE YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WOW
How big is the clan and what classes and races are they using?
>How big is the clan
Very big, the flight plan officially lists:
But there are more characters that aren't listed such as
and many more colorful personalities.
>what classes and races are they
Shit I don't know that one, I think they're all hired guns.
>How big is the clan
Listed as 23 players in it, but EU and US timezones are occupied by different people so in reality you get half a party's worth of shits during most times
>what classes and races are they using?
Spoiler, Spoiler's PP alt, SE, Necro, Paladin, Paladin's two alts, Lelf Archer, a very tsundere Destroyer
BD, SWS, fucking autistic Cat Wizard, SH, underleveled Bishop (hue), Spoiler's Sorcerer alt (EXP gain module)
>never fucking log at all
If you plan to join, note that you can't afk in this game and have to go back to character select screen whenever you plan to step away for more than 30 seconds due to anti-bot system; accidents already happened and shitters already gotten burned after they crashed with no survivors
>If you plan to join, note that you can't afk in this game and have to go back to character select screen whenever you plan to step away for more than 30 seconds due to anti-bot system; accidents already happened and shitters already gotten burned after they crashed with no survivors
So its an actual MMO not a skinner box like Swtor?
whether it's a skinner box depends on what you want out of it
during leveling and during endgame you get:
>market manipulation - fuck over prices of things on the server for your amusement and gain
>open world PvP money wars - gather a party and kill people that threaten your profit margins by trying to take your spot (will probably never ever happen because only geared people fight and gearing people is a pain - that is just fine)
>actual multiplayer - solo is painful because playing without buffs is half of your potential strength and is kinda painful; leveling past 60 solo (arguably 50; 30 for supports) is pretty much not viable
>small-scale industry - clan needs to gear people to progress and make dps happen, everyone pitches in, everyone gets geared
>raid bosses - huge mobs that are a bitch to kill that drop loot; people fight over these
>shitpost in clan chat
if you want or will enjoy none of these things which include jewing people over and crashing this plane of existence using the force of many then yes it's a skinner box stay the fuck away
Good news is support classes are covered, so you can play a badass melee, mage, or ranged dps. The AOEer the better unless you're a dependable autistic pvp sperg.
This is panz, btw. I forgot to mention that I would not be on for a lot of the day, help the papa. In my mind, I did post this, but apparently I did not physically post it until now.
I guess we will need new Shillen Elder soon.
He has been getting brave with logged in afks.
>ImustRecharge's new theme song.
TRYING HARD NOOOOOOOOW
IT'S SO HARD NOOOOOOOOW
Blipp blippity blip bluueeeeee blip blipipp blippity bliip blip bllluuuuueeeee
DA DA DA, DA DA DA DAAAAA
KILL THAT FUCKING NIGGER, RECHARGE
don't litter in my thread thank you
Do you feel in charge?
I tossed some mats in the warehouse for the BoP fund. Spoiler helped get some mithril ore and there's more on the way.
Other than steel, what's already covered in recipe?
Crafted first piece of gear.
Dai you dumb nigger (if you're op), you should have made it very clear in the op what the server afk rules are and the consequences of fucking it up, we just had a big thing about this.
Also this is bish, I'll be away for a few days for Jesus birthday and stuff. I havent quit and I will expect some god damn powerleveling from all you faggots when I get back.
Not Dai and noted.
Did you get jailed?
I don't see the big deal in captchas for anti-bot. Bots destroy MMOs, so the integrity of the server is bredddy nice imo. IMO
I didn't make the thread blame panzer for this if you must we'll powerlevel you don't mad at me okay
>Brogue acquired a damage upgrade: an A dagger
>plans to make a Bow of Peril for 140 million worth of mats scrapped; bought a Carnage Bow for 50 million instead
Life is good.
Didn't get jailed and Im not shitting on the antibot stuff, but its important to make newbies very aware of it because it could potentially lead to important clan toons getting shafted and it's really easy to overlook if you're not familiar with the server. I could easily have fucked this up because I had no idea they had a "guilty by association" system going on as well.
This was my last message. Merry Christmas lads, looking forward to playing with you all again after the holidays.
here are some reminders from the in-game tutorial that every created character gets
Grats, Bish. You're on thread creation duty now. ;p
Beat the shit out of multiple people for this spot. Did not PK. People get the message eventually. Only missed out on one brig shield fragment. Got a kite shield! I'll send to PP tomorrow
>You're on thread creation duty now. ;p
but he already created one, I guess you could say this is his... call of duty... 2...
RAMIREZ, CREATE THE THREAD AND WARN ABOUT CAPTCHA
>if you fail the captcha you get jailed
Is not ((( (((google))) ))) captcha right?
Okay, guys. News/update on threat of jail. Ban potential is real, but it's not absurd. It's not totally absurd anyway.
I suspected HellboundPLZ to be admin of the game because he talks about info in hero chat.
I also saw him in jail with Araramis in screenshots. (I'm a good boy, never been to jail.)
He says "You might get banned if you get jailed 10 times." Says "like might get banned." So it's a bit vague. I suspect if they suspect, they err on the side of caution and banhammer.
No, it's an ingame thing.
You have limited seconds to click the matching letter from a list of letters. It's not hard, but it is quick.
Can you make a webm of that? I want to see how bad it is.
Imagine playing on this server with all this shit and jumping through the hoops like a seal, going "oink oink!", on top of all the player hostile design choices that go with the actual game
>shills a discord
Why the fuck are these retards always surprised when these fan servers turn into ban happy troon dictatorships that constantly spam tranny shit? Niggercattle are definitely not people.
Responses are what you would expect for the updates planned next year.
If they have to shill for their product, then it's not a good sign.
Should learn lessons from Blizzard.
It's not really in our hands, so time will tell how it will play out.
What the fuck are they trying to do?
Nerf spoil table
Archer here. I owe money so I will become a shop until my debt is paid off.
The A-bow works fine, the shots are cheaper than the Bs. Will be needing ammo, which takes M. Ores, until 66 when they can be summoned. Shooting fast just like my LOTR movies.
Remember when we fought that sandworm, Without?
Jeez, that game looks amazing.
Skelly, you have some competition.
>WTS 200 books
Even the Discord fags are not pleased with the announcement.
Vud doesn't seem to mind the news.
In my quest to get all drops off a mob, I have 2 remaining!
300% xp grinded on these mobs.
game's not particularly pretty, but it certainly isn't that ugly either, especially for its time.
The faggot complaining probably just plays Fortnite or every new FarCry expansion.
Alright what server do I join so I can join you lads ?
the one with the least number on the right
The login servers are all just proxies. Pick which is closest to you.
Thanks and is there a way to play this in windowed mode ?
I don't know, but it's not the best game for multi-tasking. Captcha anti-bot is severe. You can't really afk in this game.
Only with the Classic client IIRC
I wanted to watch some vids while playing but it's ok.
Please tell me if those recs are lost in the freight.
I'll be back when Gun is not a nigger.
Get crafter on. Could use help with quest
I'm busy wrapping a present.
nm finished the part of the quest
>You did it without me.
I cry ery time.
I'm setting up the N64 on the projector big screen.
I'm having some pro-gamers over at the house on Christmas, ages 13-17.
Time to test out the Everdrive X7.
NOTICE OF SUPREME IMPORTANCE
Clan level has upgraded to Level 5. We have attained an ACADEMY, which we are to use to acquire useful CLAN SKILLS. It's workings are simple - every time a character under level 40 levels up, clan gains reputation points. Those reputation points are spent on clan skills. To make use of this mechanic, we require some drastic measures.
Today, after four and a half hours after manor turn-in (which is 20:00 server time) I have deleted all clan members under level 40. Tomorrow, around the same time, we'll be able to accept everyone under level 40 into an academy so they can farm us some clan points. Until then, make use of in-game whisper system, friends chat and party system to party together. Whisper "ImustBuff , "DaiUBERGOLD and "ImustRecharge should you require help or knowledge of some subject.
where the fuck are the janny niggers for this board?
recs went through
Just to be clear, Gun said he sent recs without saying anything to screw me over for some reason.
So if that happened, he sent them after I got to the sending window.
So you should have 2 necks, and 4 earrings and rings. If you have 1 neck, 2 rings, and 2 earrings, only from Gun, then mine (the clan's) were disappeared.
Interesting and cool.
Are you saying we (I) have to level toons to 40???
I have a 21, 26, and a 33.
And I would love to play an elf mage and/or a gladiator or even the pole class.
No one "HAS" to level any kinds of alts. We simply get benefits from having low leveled people enter academy and leveling inside of it - no one should feel like they MUST level an alt.
I forgot to mention, but after hitting level 40 and doing a second class change, an academy member will be removed from the academy and instantly re-invited to a main clan.
Ok. Well it seems like a fun area to contribute to the clan.
Whatever happens at 40 .... I mean I'll park the toons, I don't mind.
>and doing second class change
Ah ok that cuts deep.
I'll just pay if that's the case.
disdain for casuals
I tried to do the ct for warsmith and the quest did not work. The first step was bugged. I killed a hundred mobs, and got no drop. It was fucking retarded. Screech even came and went under the terrain to look for lost mob. Skelly helped scout too. It was absurd.
I talked to Vud about the quest because I knew he had done it on dwarf, and he acted confused. Said he'd done the quest, but it was years and years ago because he simply pays for ct transfer.
for Warsmith and Spoiler, first two quests are the same, I did them both by hand so there is no excuse for you to fail there
for third quest, the only conceivable way you could fail (and most do, from looks of it) is if you do all three of the at once somehow and quest mobs that usually spawn after Master Toma (the teleporting fag) teleports you after you talk to him refuse to spawn
this is solved by completing the other two quests and doing Mark of Maestro quest all over again - for some reason, quest flags fuck up there sometimes - though chances are that if you simply restart Mark of Maestro quest, it would still work
https://www.l2scroll.com/2016/01/test-of-maestro.html - quest description
I didn't get that far, sadly. I did want to do the quest.
It was the flower mobs in Execution Grounds.
I started it at 40, so maybe the mobs were blue.
That's my only guess. I killed many flower mobs. I got the 20 petals, but the one thing would not drop.
Sign my two dwarves up. 20 and 13.
Doing CT2 twice more sounds like a special kind of gamer hell.
The reason why you don't usually do alts is because people are supposed to do subclass quest instead. After level 75, one can undertake on a glorious adventure full of bankruptcy (trade top B weapon + ~1k Bx = low A weapon) and fortune (do a quest for Baium and wait for days on end for him to respawn; rely on goodwill of clans that farm him not to get blown the fuck out outta there) for an ability to take a subclass - that is, a character gets any class at all within the game (with a few restrictions) at level 40. A character can do this three times.
Rolling alts is fun and games but micromanaging them is hell and 2nd CT is fukken painful. People that can afford to make a sub usually do it.
if you have two quests with conflicting drops (mandragora petals, other mandragora quest drop), usually one of them takes priority
the way to win there was likely to turn in the mandragora petals, advance one CT quest, then try to drop the other quest item
There's the issue. It's faster to get powerleveled to 40 than regular leveling to 75. Nobody has breached 65 as of yet. Besides, getting my characters to 40 will be beneficial because one crafts and the other will be a store (so my main can grind freely).
I will one day wear all the hats
Now that's class.
You can register your account for Reborn Enhanced [x3] and also PICK YOUR CHAR NAME FOR FREE!
Last 24h we have been reasing and actively answering a lot of questions and doubts as well as collecting feedback and suggestions from all our members regarding the future events in the server (new servers, merge, chronicle upgrades...). First of all i want to share my happiness because of the perfect manners of the conversations, everyone told his point of view, we had long taks about different topics and all this provided us a lot of useful information.
Your main concerns as we could see are the following:
- Reborn Enhanced [x3] may be is too much boost, players going there may farm much and too easy.
The rates and the time it will be online before the merge is not that huge to be an issue, we carefully calculated every single detail about this, i think most of you forgot that Reborn Origins [x1] has specially easy due o the Flu/Rheuma buffs, the strider speed, the songs/dance in strider, the no AOE magics target limit and a very long list of issues that have been solved over theese years.
Also when Reborn Enhanced [x3] will be released the "polearn bug" (mobs stacking instead of going around you) will be fixed, as well as the FOG monster duplication (Some monsters should not do and respawn locs should be random) as well as PI exptables/droplist that is unaccurate due the lack of c6 retail info (we found reliable source to fix it).
This and the thing that this server will have huge population and much competition won't make things "free for all easy to go" as some people said.
It's a fact that it is a boost/catch up server, and it has some negative points, no reason to lie, some strong clans and alliances will rise there and then merge into x1 server, but thats a good thing for server population and longevity and a necessary measure if you dont want to close this server at the end of this year due to the lack of players that we will have at that point.
-Sub class and Main class changes in the new Chronicle-
Many of you asked for a chance to change your main class for one of your subclass (switch), since in new chronicles exist the certification skills and some other changes that makes this suggestion to have so much sense. Suggestion has been acepted
As a gift for the loyal players of Reborn Origins [x1] server we will give the following things:
- Every character existing in Reborn Origins [x1] server will get a "free subclass->main class switch change coin" that will allow them to do this just before Chronicle upgrade (limited 1 time per character and 30days to use the item or will disappear).
- We will give Free commemorative cosmetic to all players from Reborn Origins [x1] aswell.
-Kamael race addition to the game:
Many of you are concerned about this class being overpowered and totally broken. As you all may know in every game when a new race, class, champion or whatever is released it is always OP (league of legends new champs are good example), and after some patchs they nerf it. This is a common mechanic to increase company sales/force players to buy/use it. Ofcourse this happenes in past with Kamael.
We are adding it, and all its retail skills and stats, just as it was, but obviously we are not boosting it unnecesarily as it was done in past ruining the game a bit.
In the next chronicle FOI works different than in Interlude because the skill was too OP and not tought to exist for long and in so many characters, we all know that we are facing that problem here since we have been in Interlude for 27 months. You ask us to make it work like in modern chronicles, and so we will do
FOI will be changed to modern behaviour (Exactly as it was in Gracia Final) in early 2022.
Very reasonable class/subclass change option imo.
Not sure how 3x is NOT super fast because you CAN aoe better with better buffs.
Or am I mixing up versions. nvm
So we could potentially say fuck it, level anything, get the class transfer coin for the real long haul.
Ok can anyone find me the original art/image of an Orcish Poleaxe. Before it became a gay stone tied to a stick it was a big red poleaxe.
Please don't do 2nd quest SOLELY for this he-he clan skills, do not torture yourself like that. Or do, it is your choice, but one class transfer will likely give 32% progress towards something like "+1% to melee damage while sitting".
I know my info might be a bit off, still, I know some fag may dare to do such.
What an amazing pic.
This will be a clan policy surely, whether or not to.
I've been in noobie land and get asked by randos to join Clan Academy, but I didn't know what it meant and just responded to Russian English with jibberish.
Can invite randoms for this? Or it's like clan invite with clan chat?
>20 year old seacII Ask-ssky
Garden of Eva secure boss farms.
>Papa, donde esta mi madre?
Via con dios, Juanito.
I would have had to clear karma using a pillar. It would have been a pain in the ass even if I knew his plan. Thankfully, Rech was there to back me up. Dai too.
BIG GUYS RULE
I COULD FLIP OVER A FUCKING CAR RIGHT NOW
QRD on lessons learned.
You cannot CC or stun when as a red name because when you are attacked while red, they do not turn purple.
So as Brogue wisely knew, his plan was to die first to btfo me after.
I backed off when he turned his back, but he would continue to fight. Eventually I stopped giving him second chances, and ended him. Rech showed up to buff me and stand watch. Guy came right back and did not attempt to kite even though I could not stun. It was quite a dumb move on his part, but he must have assumed he had the advantage simply due to me not being able to stun.
Although he put up a hell of a fight, attempting to kite me. I would disengage, he would have to due to mob aggro. He would always come back and harass me.
I burned I think 3 CP 5minute pots in the first fight then once when he came back. So I think he was trying to kill me initially and figured plan B was to come back to deny my CC. And Rech killed his stamina to kite me out.
He died for the ground he wanted, so I must respect him.
I will pour taquila on the ground whenever I encounter some.
Mad respect, ese.
a casual reminder to take your meds on time thank you
>Swimming with her shield
It's like a boogie board! SO CUTE
I just went and lifted a bunch of weights.
DAI'S LOLI LOOKS SEXY AS FUCK RIGHT NOW
PENALTIES FELL OFF, SO WE'RE ACCEPTING ACADEMY MEMBERS NOW
whisper the inner council for an invite xddd
If you got kicked off the clan, now is your chance to rejoin. Send a pm to get into the Agency.
>I am... the League of Shadows
Somehow I believe him. Well if you want to kill a snake, cut off its-
>I btfo thee, Bat dup.
Get used to it, incels.
Our leader is a stronk woman.
Is anyone online, invite me back to the guild faggot, says Recharge and Buff aren't online to add
Uh... I'll log in in 2 secs. t. PanzerKitchen
For anybody wondering, when you target someone to clan invite them, you click the invite button from clan tab as usual. At the second window, it asks which group to invite them to. There's Big Guys and there's the Agency.
Go kill yourself 3dpd lover.
I knew you guys were fucking casuals.
I'M IN NORMALFAG HELL, GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
The Dark Legion Edge recs sold. Now for the BoP rec to sell. Logged in, shouted the usual sale message. Some rando messages me asking how much. He got pissy when my store price was lower than what I told him. It's nuts how people even use 60% in the first place when 100% exists. Don't go into debt kids.
find a way to farm some cash, manor works but there's also reagents and the like
it's fine to take it easy, I don't really care if I get moni tomorrow or after two months or something
Brief explanation of Oath armor for Alts in The Agency.
Sponsor (main Big Guys member) and a toon 19-40 in Agency Apprentice.
Oath armor is strong robe/light/heavy D grade.
Anywhere from 700-950 (???) D crystals are required by one or the other for quest. Sponsor has to be present for mob kills for Apprentice to get loot for quests for the armor, so you cannot sponsor your own alt.
Here are screenshots for how to assign a sponsor an Apprentice. Apprentice gets a notification.
Here's a more descript and accurate guide.
MasterGun is currently doing the quest and has the most knowledge.
The quest is fast and easy. You just need D-crystals to pay for the armor and your sponsor to back you up against the spiders. It's a nice perk for Academy members. It should be transferable.
What are stats?
Here is a link to the armor sets from last thread.
>It's OP as fuck.
I forgot about that.
Some sets aren't in the game, and I thought that was the case for Oath back when I used to look there.
Do helmets exist in this game?
I'm sorry, guys. I'm still in the process of choosing where to live so I dont know when will I come back online. For now I can only phonepost. When the time comes, I'll have a lot of catching up to do.
Head graphic is reserved for cosmetics.
You can and should wear a helm for stats, but you'll never see it.
No need to be sorry, don't even worry about this. Take care.
>He's not playing from his mobile phone.
My phone should arguably be able to run this game in empty locations. I should show (once I come back) you the old screenshots of a guy who was playing on my account for a couple of days and he had a really bad pc. So he modified the Unreal's .ini file to make L2 look like of of those Team Fortress 2 low quality presets/configs.
This is literally me when playing this game.
>You can and should wear a helm for stats, but you'll never see it.
Retarded bullshit like this is why Asians loose every war they fight and China has historically been the butthurt whipping grounds of Asia.
It's literally the microtransaction aspect of the game.
You spend money on hats, hair accessories, or masks.
There's motivational aspects to the cosmetic systems that reward playtime.
It also provides a degree of ambiguity in pvp. Similar to player health bars being invisible to other players not in pt, you risk engagement unless you recognize their weapons/gear. A helmet would be quite a lot more discernable.
Spent some dosh on a frivolous cosmetic and got a pet hatchling.
The formal wear looks really nice on elf.
Now this is buffing.
What in the fuck?
Went to the brightest place on Earth to do ImustRecharge a favor and farm a rare spoil off this one mob. Turns out there are 3 different spiders here, so I was worried about xping out of range.
For the record, it gets very dark, the ground, at night.
I got the shield. Notice its peculiar description!
Whether Rech knew he was memeing me or not, it truly is a meme.
Link requires translation.
Jist is in chat log.
ATTENTION POTENTIAL NEW PLAYERS
With the holiday period bringing vacations to many, and with upgrades to the Clan Rank, we now have incentive, time, and interest in leveling some alts. This is a great time to join! You'll get immediate access to top level gear for the 20-40 grind due to Clan Rank perks. If you choose an AOE Mage class, you'll have a very easy time being power leveled as we have an aoe tank and a mana battery. Other strong pvp/dps classes are also welcome.
>inb4 its just a ruse to get free clan XP.
>you will never see a single one of these faggots during your entire gametime and if you do it will be because these faggots forgot you were there and will be banned on a whim because Larping normfags only care about their clique.
It's gonna happen.
It's actually quite the opposite.
People log in hoping to chill their way up, and they're immediately bombarded with invite, instructions on where to go, commands on what to do if you are jacked up (full inventory, no money, out of shots, etc), and are immediately thrust into a power farm with guidance on how to best play in the moment.
We just sucked Zorldo into a catacomb last night in this way.
Only other lowbie is Juzax, and he doesn't really log in much. But I'm pretty sure we got him going last time he was on.
>generic discordfag gaslighting
>"erh nerh hahahaha lolo UwU we r all frieenndzz heerrrr
>banned within 15 minutes because admin or mod is on a power trip.
>Fuck that shit.jpg
We aren't on discord. I haven't heard anybody's voice in game yet.
Everybody is pretty much friends with everybody.
Only problem children are Panzer and Gun with each other. They should be a match made in heaven considering the names, but noooo. One of them is a fucking faggot.
The clan leader is a fierce supporter of anybody that joins.
There hasn't been a /kick yet, and I can't foresee it ever happening.
He hasn't taken a side on any issue that has come up.
Someone quit, and it doesn't bother him.
You'd be hard pressed to offend him.
You might even think the only insult to harm him would be not playing, but that's not even true. This is a hard, uphill game.
Many accounts are shared, so there is almost always someone online that can pass out buffs to help you solo. I'm amazed at how some people bend over backwards for others, ImustRecharge especially. SkellyKelly and Dai too.
You would be amazed.
This server is going to experience a content update to the next expansion in one year, so this is a good time to get in and enjoy it. It's just a solid experience. The next phase might be too. There's some concern but it's mixed with optimism or at least trust in the admin.
There's no clique. Some are more used to playing with others just due to how long some have been playing, but everybody is blending nicely.
HE'S RIGHT! I WAS CALLED ALL SORTS OF NAMES (dork, casual, dingaling... etc) AND THEY WERE SO MEAN TO ME ALL THE TIME TELLING ME TO GRIND. ALSO ONE OF THEM (won't say the name for privacy concerns) TRIED (SUCCEEDED) SCAMMING ME FROM DAY 0 WITH A SILVER NUGGET WHICH WASN'T ACTUALLY A NUGGET, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE SHOWED ME HIS SHORT PP IN CLAN CHAT (this is what it looked like WARNING: VERY NSFW 8==D)!!!! HORRIFYING!!!!!!!! DON'T JOIN IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR LIFE RUINED!!!!!!!!!!! VERY TOXIC EXPERIENCE!
This literally happened to me but by some stranger in game, not in clan.
Cursed swords can drop around the world and have its own rules worth knowing about.
That Zariche is from an orc who was soloing a RB next to us. He previously leveled it up with ~300 mobs trains.
Ah I should have taken a screenshot.
I have 5 brig shields in my store.
One at 2.3kk, 2.4kk, 2.5kk and so on.
Someone down the hill from me (I'm at the top near church) is selling one for 2.0kk. I sold the one at 2.3kk and he did not sell his! FUCKING LOOOOOOL
And I did not replace the sold one because the scam would be revealed!
Can you believe that guy buys the shield thinking he won my little game, and then goes down the hill and sees one for 2kk. hahahahahaha
FUCK FUCK FUCK NIIGGGER
>Oh shit that would suck if I had to buy it at 2.7kk.
YOGURT HAS TAUGHT YOU WELL, LONESTAR
The spoilerdup cracked and sank his shield to 1.5kk
I bought it
Anyone else going to try their new x30 server in a week? 1st and 2nd class transfers are completely free of pain. Might try other classes.
Might give it a go if the hats work there.
I'm guessing it's invisible until the month is finished.
Server restart. Gave us a 10 minute warning with intervals.
I wonder if that sweeps the shops.
MAYBE THEY'RE FIXING MY HAT ISSUE
If it's for trying classes and getting a taste of PVP with them, there are some 1000x servers for that. Just beware that 40 buffs with 12 songs/dances and full raid boss jewells, S grade, +16 seapon, completely change how the classes and game plays.
Looks like I've mastered the art of multi-tasking.
Panz is a schizo tsundere who's chasing windmills because no fun allowed unless it's pre-approved by him first.
I'm at a loss with how to quell his weird fits that no one else has problems with about my class.
I'll pay 1m to the clanmate who gives him a thorough lesson in how to take it easy.
>Single target expensive dps that pulls pack mobs to lead the tank into action.
If we did raid bosses, sure, you'd be great.
If we did pvp, sure, you'd be great.
Right now you cost the clan and offer little to nothing in return and disrupt group synergy that existed before your arrival.
Nobody else says anything because it's not their job or place to say.
As tank, you irk me to no end.
It's Nascar not Nascoon.
You complained that I was too slow, but you don't understand efficiency for the long grind.
Everybody else has way more patience than me or it's not their problem.
I actually work to support you by leveling dwarf and crafting shots etc.
And you go against me at almost all turns. Doing things in silent to suit your own goals at my expense. You then act smug with anime pic on forum.
>You are not a human unless you are support or AoE
That is what you sound like.
God forbid your comp role be any harder than what you're used to. I thought l33t gamers know how to adapt in differing situations.
Some of my quests have enemies resistant to my attacks. I killed them anyway.
Sorry for playing a game the way I want to because MMOs r srsbzns amirite?
Problem is some of us picked classes to support the clan, and others picked what they wanted. For the most part, all picks support the clan, but yours was recommended against for several reasons, some really having you yourself in mind. I went aoe tank, and we wound up with little to no aoe, at least until later levels. If I stayed on aoe mage, you and I wouldn't have any problems. We also wouldn't have a dedicated tank. We would just use the front line dwarves or small pulls or support destro. So we have two conflicting motives. Guy that does whatever he wants. And guy that gives as much as he can to the clan.
With the mages back after holiday break and a bit more leveling, I assume we'll be running trains from time to time. You will have to learn to wait for the train instead of shooting randomly at any direction you like, driving pt to scramble to help the kiting light armor archer with pack mobs chasing her.
You show up to the group later in the game, attempt to lead them in your vision of play (tank should pick up all the garbage I bring to group regardless of state of readiness because archer is bored), receives support often free from tank to cover your expenses, and then still give me grief?
A lot of this is in the past. We had a good group play yesterday with many non-pole users equipping poles. It's an awkward situation, and I'm open to suggestions. I can switch toons, and we can do a less meta, more retarded approach. I don't know what's best. I'll main Crafter. I don't care! I just know aoe tanking is overkill unless I'm on emergency duty in catas like last time. That was dope, but I was a bit bored. You were also equipping pole at some point as archer.
You've got completely the wrong attitude. You feign blasé but you're really just self-centered. If I go to gather 5-10 mobs at once, and you attack the first one, ruining my entire plan, slowing it down to a crawl, slowing the whole pt from entering deep into a place, I feel like I'm working with a complete retard that is just sperging at the first sight of a mob. It's a waste of my time and my class potential. All because you think you're just playing not how I'm used to. lol. I'm used to your kind quite a bit, but in other mmos, they learn to stop with those mistakes because the combat punishes them. This is an economy game, something you also don't like nor care about. So you aren't punished so much for erroneous play except in the wallet perhaps.
Maybe in the late game you will be punished for how you play. Maybe we absolutely need a strong tank for late game. I don't know. All I know is I go to do things that are smart and effective, and you fuck them up, pretending not to care due to being anit-seriousness, when I think you just suck and don't see what others see or what others are trying to do BECAUSE OMFG MUST SHOOT MOB.
Leader is in a tough spot to build a clan. One wants to have certain components, but one also needs members. You want to let people play what they want, and you want to accomplish goals. So you meet in the middle and make a lot of compromises.
We have a situation, but it's probably minor and will sort itself out. Also the holidays condense primary loggers, so this skews the state of things.
I don't really have a problem with Gun anymore. I was trying to make light of the situation earlier in this thread, but maybe the stress of his toon is getting to him. It got to me, but I got through it and unlocked new abilities.
Screech gets AOE soon. Skellykelly has some AOE, maybe gets more later??? Gun has learned about party flow quite a bit. People had faith in him, so I tried to be patient. We're rehashing it again for some reason.
If you're going to quit, Gun, I won't be upset, but the clan probably won't handle it well, and I certainly hope I don't get negative flack for it. Just make some money on your spoiler. You seem to have anxiety about alts or sharing PP responsibility. It's very odd imo. Maybe I'm biased. You're not required to explain yourself. I'm just trying to offer some encouragement with the spoiler option for making money. If you're hitting a money wall, I know all about it. hahaha I hit it long ago, and I didn't even have a debt.
Nice damage control there. Trying to shift the topic into something else.
You want to do me a favor? Shut the fuck up and don't pussy your way out of clan parties just because you see my name in the team roster. You don't want to play with me, fine. Man up about your intentions.
Lol You're such a fucking faggot. While you were offline, they told me to join, and I said okay but they'd need to provide me with a convenient excuse to leave when you came back. It was a joke. When you logged in, I began to joke some more.
Dai actually said if we can't resolve the problem, then one of us isn't going to be in pt with the other, and I told him not to tempt me which I didn't imply as a threat, just that I do welcome the break from having to deal with your play style.
really I'm just bored as fuck when it's not a mostly full pt. I hate chasing mobs that you engage. It's just tedious grind. I have a lot going on with the crafter and now spoiler, also trying to powerlevel bishop.
It's not about you, Gun Show.
Can you be an Orc Bishop?
>It's not about you
>t. man who wrote 8000 words about how his gay lover is a selfish top ingame
>It's not about you
Isn't that a line from nuBlade Runner or something?
I restrained myself actually.
>autistic guild drama
Ah yes, now it really is the classic MMO experience™
I honestly thought this was resolved when I gave him the Big Show theme song.
Gun is just melting down because he leveled up too fast and can't afford arrows. The mithril ore has been coming in less and less, but the compound braid number goes up. You can't shoot stem arrows with an A bow, mate.
Yeah, but why would you want to?
Pathetic my man. Just stop.
You can't even convince our healer and berserker that your view is right.
Lay down your butthurt, it is not too late for my mercy.
Make an Orc anything, level it to 75 (euphemism for suicide as none of us leveled past 70 yet despite playing for at least 1 and a half months), subclass (1/3 of euphemism for suicide), pick Bishop. Done. You can pick any class this way to attain a different profession from your possible starting class paths with minor exceptions.
I wouldn't advise on a making support class like Bishop and such if you're not going to seriously dedicate yourself to the game. These classes are very slow to level solo and you need to abuse parties to make any headway. If you REALLY want a healer, roll an Elemental Summoner/Warlock as their summon pet can hit things decently enough while they are capable of healing everyone a little bit. Otherwise, try to pick something simple that can level fast like Orc Destroyer or Human Warlord. This game doesn't hold back against new people.
It's useless to stop it.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
The dynamic changes when Triz is in the pt. He's like the cool older kid at high school. In that situation, my aoe tanking is a hinderance, and I rely on my hybrid skills which is totally fine. I have heals, big heals. It's all about enabling each other. You disable me as I attempt to enable the group. We can't play as if Triz is in the pt when he's not in the pt. This is basic shit. People say you're fucking with me, but I don't think you're that smart.
Also do you see me making threats against you?
Do you see how toxic you are? How against the group you are?
I like everybody in the clan with the exception of Rud because he quit when he was the class I wanted to play. He's not here to hate though. Even then I dislike him less than you when you actively work against me.
Am I condescending? Yes.
Are my methods for dealing with people rudimentary? Perhaps.
If I can't fix it with percussive maintenance, I call in for help, but nobody wants to help the situation. It just festers. It subsides, and it festers again.
You're the only one in the whole clan who thinks I'm doing "bad things" hence you are a schizo. I help out guild buddies, our top 3 can vouch for that. So like, it's all in your head. And I would appreciate it if you, ahem, got over your little insecurities.
Dunno if this will get through to you but maybe you're the bad guy, not me.
I'm the only tank in the clan, and your actions in pt that communicate to me have caused my reactions. You said if I stopped typing so much, I could pick up the mobs you pulled. I'm not here for you. I'm not here to play at archer noob pace.
You are helpful at times. You run some trains on low level mobs to help with PLing. You group with some folks. I'm not going to drag anybody into this that doesn't want to be in this. I know some people don't see it. I know some do. If you don't fucking get what I'm saying, and you just see me as a villain, you have a mental block.
I've tried to take your feedback as constructive criticism on my tanking. I've tried to meet the expected pace that you've added to the mix. I know I'm a conservative player. You will notice that few of our pt experiences have resulted in deaths. In fact, many times we should have all died, and my actions as well as healers have saved us. I'm talking about the times we've gotten trained by others.
I've already tried to say this is becoming mostly resolved. You've learned a lot. I've accelerated my play. This is approaching a non-issue.
Ah Rech joined
TO ALL NON-LINEAGE 2 PLAYERS
THANK YOU FOR EXPERIENCING THIS PR CAMPAIGN TO DRUM UP ENGAGEMENT FOR NEW RECRUITS
YES, YOU'VE BEEN HAD. GUN AND I ARE TOTALLY TIGHT.
WE COORDINATED THIS ALL OVER DISCORD.
I want to play with you fags but I don't think there's enough fashion autism for me. Am I wrong? I've been trying to tell without actually playing...
There's cosmetic hats you can buy with real money and some RP sets you can make in game.
If you can farm a lot of gold, you can get lesser quality sets for the looks I guess.
Armor sets mostly look like whatever armor a character is wearing at the time. There's hats for fashion, but they're a separate beast and there's not much room to play fashion souls with them.
Most A/S grade sets look pretty stylish though.
Keep backpedaling. This doesn't change the fact you are spoiled by AoE and won't duo ever again. I tanked hits like a champ in those parties you intentionally dipped out of. You may not notice how you act but others do.
It will be another mark against you if you stop crafting my bullets because I served you good. Attacking my budgeting is like if I made fun of your piss poor damage output. A parser would shame you quick.
By RP sets I mean there's formal wear. Someone made a nightgown dress that looks .... This game has boobs and boob physics. I'll leave it at that.
I had some legendary parses in classic wow for what it's worth.
I'm spoiled by aoe??
Get Triz to join you in your solo target quest for a sense of superiority in this video game.
>I tanked hits like a champ.
Dude, It's THE GUN SHOW
WE ALL KNOW (now)
>I tanked hits like a champ.
This game does not punish your style of play. You died once in the catacomb dimensional rift thingy because you tried to tank like a champ. The game doesn't punish you enough for my tastes. You would learn sooner and know what you're doing wrong in other games. I get banned from just about every guild and game, so I already know I have that going on about me. I'm not a social butterfly, but I like to talk.
Are you tanking one mob at a time like a champ? Or are you tanking 10-20 mobs at once like a champ? What would you say is the more efficient use of time, mana, resources, and mental aptitude? I say mental aptitude to describe the feeling people get when they play the full breadth of their toon with its depth of skills and cooldowns. But mainly what I'm trying to say is, we can process more mobs for more drops in a shorter amount of time when we're doing aoe pulls. Again, I'm not saying everybody needs to be aoe. I'm just saying I have an aoe taunt that isn't utilized when I'm your sidekick. I can't be mana efficient when I have to single target taunt every mob you pull or when I have to taunt twice to pull it off of you, and healers can't be mana efficient if you're tanking like a champ.
This is all so fucking tedious to me. it's all basic shit that you seem to not understand, and people will say it's not a big deal because the game is simple. it is simple. We don't have to function at peak capacity. We can all just chill or enjoy the Gun Show. Like I said, I'll switch mains if I'm the asshole. I don't know what else can be said.
>He wants me to main crafter to make him shots and ammo.
>That's why he drives me crazy on tank
It's all so clear now.
Dai, what if I main crafter and sublcass Paaaaa
>This game does not punish your style of play
<but it's wrong cos I said so
It's wrong in just about every game I know of when it comes to party and mob aggro. Every other game, the mobs will kill you if you aren't tank. In this game it's just inefficient, but you need experience to see that. Of course, given any situation, there's a max efficiency, so it will appear efficient in certain moments. Expecting it to be efficient at all times is foolish. I've experienced this myself and had to learn. Often times, I'm mad at gun, and it's partially a distraction. There is conflict which causes distraction. In cases where there isn't conflict, there's no distraction, and something can be easier to learn or adjust to. I don't think Gun is truly my enemy. Our dynamic is just damn inconvenient.
Where I got truly pissed off at Gun, and this is not a shitpost like most of my comments, was when he showed up to group and did not read the room. He simply did what he had been doing, and when I tried to say something, he immediately responded with "don't talk to me while I'm playing." That was of course a huge red flag, and sent me into wtf mode like what is this guy's deal. I hate it.
Like I think I'll go for a walk now, and I'm on my walk, and I'm talking to myself practicing how to talk to Gun.
It ruins my fucking day. You can't even be open to feedback because why? I'm supposed to talk to you when? You're new to the group, and I have to adjust to you? It's just too confusing, and yeah, I hoped he'd just die somehow suddenly, but what are you supposed to do at that point
what're you asking me for
there's situations in grind where tank is required and there's situations where it doesn't matter if there is one
Yeah I just keep doing what I'm doing. I like my pala too much anyway.
I'll just offtank next to gun then subclass bishop like the rest of us, so we can all heal gun as he tries to push past lvl 80.
Gun, no hard feelings. I'm glad I aired some stuff out. Btfo me if you dare.
Because it would be fucking hilarious.
I guess I will roll something else and leave my crazy idea for later.
Not sure what shit goes on in this thread, you either play and have fun together, or don't bother. Outside of clan it is sandbox with men you don't want to know, enjoy what you have now, you've been warned in the first thread about what the game is anyway (but it turned out to be better due to new locations, I must say).
Happy New Year!
I achieved highest point of gameplay evolution as my class:
1)log in character with class "destroyer"
2)get one serving of pp
3)walk to spot
4)get to 30%
5)!!! ITS MEMZY TIME !!!
6)once memzy wears off - log out for 3-4.5 mins depending on preference
7)log back, immediately frenzy again - repeat same process until buffs are over
9)EVERY SECOND PLAYED IS 3K HITS 8K CRITS SHIT JUST DIES
1) not enough mobs
2) solo only
3) suits one spot so far, often taken
4) might attract banmen
5) you are not destroyer
Does this game work well with wine? I don't wanna install 10G to fail to play, my bandwidthz are precious.
game doesn't work with linux due to anti-cheat anti-bot extension
dualboot, passthrough or die
happy new year
Isn't it some kind of stereotypical behavior of trannies to be smug all the time?
What does this mean and why this post is posted? Why this all of a sudden?
must be a schizo post
Debt paid and today's produce has been deposited.
"L2 Interlude Archer Brief Leveling Guide" by Nikui/Fashistotto/レツゴ/MasterGun
||tl;dr: Do not play an archer!||
So you want to suffer playing this meme class? I will try to help with my limited experience as Silver Ranger.
First, choose which race your shooter will be. Humans have the most durability and balanced stats. Dark elves are the minmax race that hit the hardest with the least HP. Light elves move the fastest with the lowest attack.
The best advice for leveling, which I didn't take, is to not touch the bow until after your 2nd class transfer. Yes, stick with daggers until the game forces a bow into your hands. You will hate yourself less if you do.
You must realize that to walk the path of the arrow is to play solo most of the time. Plus, it is not the kind of solo that utilizes AoE which sucks.
You will be discriminately ignored in party finder searches. Passed over for the more popular DPS choices. Mages and Melee can do more damage than you in PvE. Single target playstyle will also limit your Exp and moneymaking so get used to it. Rangers are not sprint athletes. Instead, they are built for endurance marathons.
Find a good guild or an archer CP. Most archers are alts from older players I reckon rather than new players, due to the sheer cost of leveling a toon up.
To put the cost in perspective, at my current level, it costs at least 70 adena to MISS your attack. It costs 160 adena when your attack hits an enemy ONCE. Mind you, these numbers are rounded down and assumes you crafted your ammo/shots instead of paying market prices for them. Enemies do not go down in one hit so let's say it takes four attacks, without crits, to kill one mob. That's a 640 cost in adena to kill a mob so factor that in when I count my loot.
C is the worst rank for this class due to handicapped carry weight and the fact you won't make lots of money from normal play for the increasing costs.
By the way, shooting arrows costs MANA as well. So be careful not to go over your weight limit unless there is a party member who is willing to hold your extra ammo or a recharger to fill your MP, preferably both are present in your party.
The generic leveling guide does not consider archers so it is your job to look for solo hunting spots that suit your needs.
Ideally, you would target enemies within exp range (Green names) that you can KO in 3 or 4 shots. When attacking from a distance, the mob has to reach you first so the best case is you kill it before it can damage you. Damage means drinking HP pots which translates to losing precious money.
Become a pro at doing this and you'll barely drink potions in each solo session. In practice though, it is better to just drink pots to save yourself time.
Do look up repeatable quests in each town you will stay in, it will help keep your head above water when financing yourself. If a quest pays you for killing monsters that you would kill anyway, be sure to take those quests as soon as possible!
Remember to check your ammo from time to time, this applies to C-rank especially. If you run out, be sure to have a backup melee weapon ready so you can finish your kills. Polearms have good utility in teams and long sessions.
That should cover general advice, it is meant to scare anons from pursuing this class so they pick something less painful. Lastly, I will list grind solo spots I've visited from my journey.
I suggest finding a group by level 40, or earlier, to make your life much easier. Remember to grab buffs as often as you can, Prophet ones are best for fighters.
Anywhere near the starting villages.
Elf Village for the spore quest and access to elf forest/ruins.
The Neutral Zone, Ruins of Despair, Ruins of Agony
Forgotten Temple and Floran Agricultural Area
Plains of the Lizardmen
Forest of Evil
Enchanted Valley and War-torn Plains
The Cemetery (Very good location!) then maybe Frozen Labrinth
Forsaken Plains, The Forbidden Gateway and Valley of Saints
ツ/10 guide very well done; leveling archers is very much a pain and they are usually alts of people that already have money in this game from playing classes that have good at getting money (spoiler, destroyer, etc) because of gear costs
I'll be away for 3 weeks to a month starting from today. I will only be able to log in buffer from manor time (20:00 server time) to like 2-6 hours after it for service of party grinding sessions. Thus I proclaim
SKELETON CREW MODE
in which clan's income is somewhat hampered. Thank you.
Outgoing debt tally:
+14m to cwh: Brogue
+65m to cwh: Deadlita
Debts are designed to be a stress-free way of gearing your character much sooner than you would without this method - and paying for gear later with results from using better gear. None of the debt money is necessary right now for any larger projects, so, I repeat, do not stress about repaying it.
In offline sell shop: 106 million
Cash on hand: 26.5 million
Clan gearing goals right now: (from top to bottom):
>Panzer's Nightmare Heavy A armor set (Tank 61 required) - ~120m
>Archer's Majestic Light Armor set - ~???m (should be cheap enough (~100m) on the market)
>ImustRecharge's Majestic Robe A armor set - ~???m (actually expensive)
>DaiUBERGOLD's Majestic Heavy A armor set - ~120-210m (required for solo farm; delayed due to skeleton crew mode)
>Individual players's A jewels set for defending against mages (61 required) - ~24-60m depending on set
Armchair theorist line - we're not getting to these for a long, long while
>ImustBuff's Majestic Robe A armor set - ~???m (actually expensive but whatever it's not as important)
>Homu +10 for Rud - ~250m (fast track new players towards success)
>Destroyer's TPA (Tallum Plate Armor) - ~200+m (most expensive A grade heavy armor in the game)
>BD's TPA - ~200+m (most expensive A grade heavy armor in the game)
>putting A grade gear on clan members will pre-suppose that they'll take on debt for owning it after receiving it - A grade gear is often absolute top of the line and Best in Slot/Best Available for a long time (level range of 61-75); should we gift it willy nilly, we'll make no headway in gear ladder
>all debt is 0% interest and is assumed to be paid in forever ever rather than anytime soon
Any suggestions, concerns or complaints are to be voiced here. Everything is progressing nicely.
I know I owe blue wolf gear, but you know my sole existence pays up for it, so could I sell it and buy tallum once the "long, long while" comes?
Though first I wanted a focused idolmaster sword, but I guess I could get armor instead.
Keep BW, sell it and buy TPA when you can afford it.
Also, Brogue's Nightmare Light Armor set is in clan gearing goals too, but it will be a long while before we actually get there and Brogue has to actually level to 61 for it.
>Doom set was free but belongs to the clan.
>NM Heavy will be a debt.
I don't like this new normal one bit.
I do have my dwarves coming up though, so I will see what I can do.
What do you don't like in here? Don't want a debt - just buy yourself. I suppose doom heavy is tank only, so you can sell it when you are sure you can buy next one, or sell it afterwards.
Oh I'm mostly joking. I just have a personal aversion to debts irl.
Uh, my dwarves can hear you, you know.
Ah ok maybe I sell. I don't suppose anybody wants to or plans to subclass a tanking class, do they.
By the way, how do subclass crews level up again? Do we form the perfect pt and redo our sigma grinds, or do we take turns power leveling each other if we can or what? It's very interesting.
Ah stupid question.
It's more valuable to sell it now and re-buy later if the need arrises anyway.
We'll be swimming in B grade and below money at S tier.
Sell when you are 61+ and really have a chance to buy whole set to not run around naked. 120m is not much given you sell your armor and the fact that, unless you are mega nerd, this set will be last set you ever get. Not sure though, I never played that far.
Why now? What the fug
Not now now.
I'm saying it's more valuable to sell at the appropriate time (when replacing with Nightmare) than to hang onto it for subclass wraparounds. We can farm up money or another set with our 76ers if gearing another tank, someone subclassing. We'll have more money later. Doom resell has money now. Am I making sense
Sure, but why do I need to see this picture?
Anyway - I don't know how subclasses work yet and why anyone would need B armor at that point.
There's a difference between "now" and "now now."
Ok so it's sort of the opposite of the difference between "rape" and "rape rape" but I love Whoopi.
I guess I'll post the FULL context.
So here I am, being a little retarded, grinding some mobs to get crafter to ssa/bssa range. Learning manoring. To my surprise, I find a ton of seeds in Giran.
The chosen grind is these skellies for PL Boot keys. I'm manoring away on these 1x because fuck it, and after about 20% xp, I begin to realize that I haven't seen any drops. And I mean nothing. No keys of any kind, not even basic mats at 10%. And yeah so it dawns on me that game design trades random drop for risky at specifc drop from seed manoring.
I ponder and then I stop seeding. And the very first kill is a PL boot key. haha
What a world
Hey I know some of you guys (Araramis) are sensitive to violence, so I just wanted you to let you all know that Gun and I are totally civil with each other. It's often him and I last online.
He even said "thanks for the shots" and I said "yw."
I wish there was a witness.
>pick up magic coin quest
>good for archers because of single targets
>do coin royal membership quest for the lulz
>can buy bread now
It takes one day to farm enough royal coins for two recipes. Set up buy shop overnight to get magic coins for said recipes. Obtain recipes the next day then set up sell shop. People actually buy it for some reason.
It's all possible thanks to Dai and Rech's meta knowledge.
It took you the whole day to craft a single order. A few mouse clicks worth of work. Make a workshop next time.
kys, faggot. I almost cut you off from business entirely. I was busy grouped with clanmates and was busy when you first sent and I forgot. Why would I set up a shop when I'm playing the toon? For the same price or nearly no price compared to other shops?
>Set up a shop.
I will consider this.
Oh wait, I have a bunch of shit to sell, you selfish bastard.
You gave me mats for 4 mana bars worth of crafting. That's not "a few mouse clicks." That's like upwards of 20 minutes .afk in town.
>weapon I need was 110-120m 2 weeks ago as several deals, now it is one deal at 180 and rest 200+
>unsealed armor week ago was 210, now 270
So you're saying I'm leveling the crafter...
I mean at some point it becomes more practical to craft the gear, even at 60% I imagine.
The future alliance with TheBoys clan is alive and well. The future holds bright objects in sight.
Begun, the clan wars have
Dai, do not buy NM Heavy yet.
I did something.... something crazy.
Hey guys if we can find a way to help Triz with his acquisitions, that would be great. He hurting real bad right now. Triz, there's many things that can be said, many choices that you can make. I'm a noob but one suggestion is maybe take it easy. Let us catch up to help you. You won't fall behind by not playing for a little while.
You guys won't believe this.
No need to help my fagsona, sudden price grow ruined all my gear up plans and that's just how it is for now.
For spergs that don't want to read.
>Lex's goal: Vince gib +6 FP helm
>Vince's goal: control and de-nuub subordinates
Let's first agree to situation. Shock has worn off about Damascus. I'm a good soldier that follows orders. Lines are blurred as to total loot rights on shared account. Such high value item is more secure in Dai's possession. I yield.
Strange and arguably noobish goal of mine: Utilize +6 set bonus FP on 2 dwarves to make money and position crafter into to support myself and clan. Overkill? Unnecessary? For several reasons? Arguably. However, full set of FP sells for 35kk. I got the armor at +6 for 33kk. The set of helm/armor +6 can easily sell for a lot to return investment.
Why +6 in my noobish mind? Kicks, experience the game, and the idea floating around by some that solo spoiler is unviable because mp. My mind thinks solo farm spoil/manor for a solid portion of spoiler life with mana regen bonus is decent solution. It's not like I burned several FP armors and eacs. FP helm is bountiful.
All in all I do not ask for much. +6 is obviously daunting but maybe you can just buy from chat. I will try to get it anyway. This is fair of Vince to do, imo.
resell and get bw/maj you spastic
And now, for something completely different.
Bold of you, sir.
Yeah... I guess I can't take crafter far on FP????
Was thinking spoiler/crafter could share. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself.
Fun zone with mini-boss? I'll be around after manor time for that. Can't play at 5 AM hope you understand.
I'm playing as Mystic human right now because I don't want to play as mutant with long ears or down syndrome green defect or shitty drunken manlet and I'm wondering when can I learn to cast some cool shit, I want to nuke some mutants.
MAGE PARTY IS GO
Mystic/Magic guild in town.
If you frame-by-frame some of the sorc spells, there's incredible details in them that you don't get to see at normal fps.
Fishing is the most infuriating thing to do in the game.
Quote of the Day:
When MasterGun does not receive buffs from clanmates immediately...
>There are buffer NPCs on the 30x server. I can see why...
Yeah, sorry we're not NPCs in the Gun Show.
Dai, I moved the store. It did not sell yet.
I hope you read this first.
threadly reminder it is your civic duty to bully homosexuals until they kill themselves
Well you better get better at bullying gays. They love AIDS.
Triz, let's work out a deal. I'm at like ~30% on Panzer. Get me lvl 61, and I'll be indebted to you via SoPs. I'll sop farm on my spoiler for desired amount. I log in in the morning when you're online. We don't even have to do it all in a day. What do you say
Oh and if you think I can't get many, those were just leftover that I hadn't freighted to my shop toon. I wasn't even specifically trying to farm those either. I would do like 50 sops. Maybe more. I don't know what you will find dealio worthy.
Fine. And what time is the morning exactly?
I think I've been logging in between 7-8am Pacific Standard Time. I've just noticed we've been online about the same time when I log in in the morning. If you want a solid time, I'll make an alarm.
Played with other archers and bought good looking armor today.
Holy shit were any of you CCing the boss?
>tries to play tough by threatening other party with nearly harmless disease jews insist is killing the world
>he doesn't know COVID is just step one of the invasion
Quite literal 20m question. Deal with the market crash of ML and sell 364 @ 74k or hope to god for a rebound and wait for it to go back above 105k?
Can't tell you how happy I am to see John and Skelly reunite with the clan within an hour of each other.
Welcome back, fellas!
We just need Screech, and the Dark Side will be complete.
I'm going to hit the gym so I can hurry up and find a gf to play pp.
be back in like an hour
Moved the store with sword of damascus. Near monument of heroes in Giran.
I was looking for a new spot because I was kind of hidden by spam signs.
I was looking around on my main and considering buying some shops out if I could.
>28 Compo armor keys at 15k a piece
But I kept looking, and this dwarf stands up and runs to warehouse. I relog and try to find it before shops load. It took me many tries, and I locked it in finally. 2 or 3 seconds later, the dwarf returned. HAHA
WHERE THE FUCK IS SCREECH
There's a second Damascus sword on sale in Giran square, but it's +2 and priced at 250kk, so I think it helps us.
You were nice and fun. Goodbye!
Burned the fuck out, that's where.
I regret to inform you that I have received no large sum of money nor equipment and therefore am not obligated to do FUCKING ANYTHING, SUCKERS.
Though with the head jew going on another fieldtrip to his local gulag soon, I do feel guilty. Maybe I'll log in just to make myself feel better.
I don't know why he posted that.
He's been logged in for several hours every day.
After more soul-crushing labor, the cycle begins again.
Take as much time as you need. Hope to see you again, Smugger.
I hate this shitty Finnish decayed Pedobear. But what I hate most about it is this webm in particular, because it references that episode of World Peace where the studio swapped the song being performed. It was a live performance of "Cop Killer" but because news and politics the kikes over at Adult Swim switched it to a canned version of "Hey Moon". That completely undercuts the meaning of the entire sketch in a huge way. I'd say that knowledge of the happenings make it even more poignant but this webm proves that their censorship is ultimately successful. When reproductions don't have the original, but the lie, then you know you've done your job.
A lot of people do not know how rare Damascus mats (recs) are. I'm encountering a lot of ignorance.
>Dude bruh I'm selling my B duals for 160kk bruh lol Dmaskus 220kk lol I'll just craft it bruh
But I explain to them a bit to make them a potential buyer. We will see... we will see...
Before that, someone just replied "HAHAHAHA" and when I asked him what he thought a fair price would be, he put me on ignore.
>Woot! I won
I told you he is enemy within. He has been against me the entire time. I told you it was irresolvable. And I asked for your help. And you promoted him. hahahaha
Does an enemy:
1. Pay their debts
2. Help powerlevel clanmates
3. Contribute resources to clan and teammates
What will it take to get it through to your thick skull that you are only humiliating yourself? Can't believe I'm saying this but grow up, seriously.
I propose we all just accept a hiatus while clan leader is away. Scrap by or play alts, accept that big push grinds are on hold. Regroup later.
>Does an enemy
I don't give a fuck about your version of the narrative. I know what I perceive. I brought it up multiple times. I asked for advice multiple times. I told you he makes me want to quit the game. He actively works against me whether by incompetence, willingness, or both. I accepted his presence as a lesson. I learned from that lesson. And now you want to push me over the edge. It's your call.
If you need to leave for a month, please do. Take care of your life. We do not de-level for not playing. If you need to give Gun a means to make money, by all means, give him your spoiler account info. Please, do not leave him clan lead or cwh. Give that to Recharge, the obvious choice.
btw my harsh language at the start of that paragraph was me thinking I might be talking to Gun. I didn't mean any disrespect.
I like everybody in the clan a lot, and I enjoy all the play we have together. I like everybody's class choices. I went Tank for all of you out of adoration and respect. I saw that you were all talented players, and I wanted to provide a component so we can really cook. Then Gun joins, and he selfishly and stupidly plays something ill advised. I try to play with him on crafter dwarf and quickly get a massive headache. When he joins our levels and begins playing with us, he fucks with me deliberately without any knowledge of how the group operates. This was difficult to understand, and I suspected multiple reasons behind it. I can elaborate, but this is already a lot of text. The bottom line is...
He does not care about the clan. He does not care about others. He only cares about himself, and he only appears helpful when it's out of necessity or personal gain. That is something to manipulate if you dare, and it appears to me that Dai is daring to do so. I personally disagree with this approach, but I don't have a solution other than for all the sperging to slow down and accept a break.
As for your points of support of Gun, paying debts as a sign of allegiance.... eeehhhh..... With things we farmed to give to him to sell. This is just a silly argument.
He plays cute with his archer punching mobs, wants to acquire shield, often shows up to do this in a redundant capacity, contributes very little in these situations imo. I question whether he's doing it sincerely or to save face. I have no idea. He also demands we gib noobies gear despite there already being protocols in place for doing so. Powerleveling is good, but sometimes people want to login and relax and learn the game.
I have not seen these contributions. As far as I can tell, he is an expense on the clan. I've personally crafted most of his ammo as far as I know. I honestly can't believe I'm having this fucking conversation about Gun still.
>If you need to give Gun a means to make money, by all means, give him your spoiler account info. Please, do not leave him clan lead or cwh. Give that to Recharge, the obvious choice.
If you don't like it, fine, he doesn't get it. It's not that big a deal. Recharge already has it just in case, but he's not going to be able to log it because SE+spoiler is money factory and SE+mage is mage aoe setup.
>the rest of the spergout culminating in "I quit." into logout
Take a deep breath and concentrate. If you don't want to play, that's fine, take a break if you must. If you want to quit, I have no control over that - I never had that from the start. If you want to help or be helped, we'll be here for you.
If you have any further questions, simply post. I don't despise any notion of drama or getting mad at people, maybe explosively, as long as it gets properly resolved.
I don't want to quit.
I will come up with a personal action plan.
I will pay for a clan leader change to Recharge and back.
Giving Gun rec for disaster is just beyond beyond my ability to tolerate.
>I have access to Rech account.
I will gib voucher to pay for clan leader change to a Rech only account and back to Dai account or whatever is required.
Probably can't make an academy member Clan Leader, so ... I dont know maybe Rech can have access to KANGMASTER and we can finish him to 40 and put KANGMASTER in his rightful place as Clan Leader.
I'll even pay for the fucking CT quest. lol
>I like everybody in the clan a lot, and I enjoy all the play we have together. I like everybody's class choices. I went Tank for all of you out of adoration and respect. I saw that you were all talented players, and I wanted to provide a component so we can really cook. Then Gun joins, and he selfishly and stupidly plays something ill advised. I try to play with him on crafter dwarf and [...]
>He does not care about the clan. He does not care about others. He only cares about himself, and he only appears helpful when it's out of necessity or personal gain. That is something to manipulate if you dare, and it appears to me that Dai is daring to do so. I personally disagree with this approach, but [...]
Selfishness is the root of all action that is undertaken in these kinds of games. You farm so that you obtain things for yourself. You enter a clan for yourself to have others to talk to, you farm for yourself and funpost for yourself. You have a good time, all for yourself. If that interest is missing, your other interests take hold - maybe go work there for some cash to buy thing X, maybe listen to music, maybe play other vidja. Selflessness in this manner is simply a way to be selfish - but that in itself is creating good context. Clan for people to level. Getting to know one another. It's fine.
>As for your points of support of Gun, paying debts as a sign of allegiance.... eeehhhh..... With things we farmed to give to him to sell. This is just a silly argument.
That was one time we farmed a BOP recipe because there was no other option when it came down to giving him a weapon. And then we backtracked off of that plan after getting a good deal on a better bow, which needed to be sold ASAP. I value overall clan prosperity over my own, so I gave the rec (as a difficult sell) to Gun, seeing as how we needed to sell a lot of expensive recipes and so that he might become good at selling expensive recipes.
>He plays cute with his archer punching mobs, wants to acquire shield, often shows up to do this in a redundant capacity, contributes very little in these situations [...]
I do and say a lot of these incompetent things too around SE. It's not that big a deal as long as he is present and continues to be.
>I have not seen these contributions. As far as I can tell, he is an expense on the clan. I've personally crafted most of his ammo as far as I know. I honestly can't believe I'm having this fucking conversation about Gun still.
Archer is a solo PvP class that is meta. He brings overwhelming, piercing physical damage to the table with the capacity to stun over range at high levels. On top of that, we can't gear two archers as their gear is famously expensive - but it outputs good bang for it's buck. For as long as we level an archer to 3rd prof (76+), we can guarantee more power in self-defense situations which will NO DOUBT
NO DOUBT arise.
Archer is a long-term investment that is justified in my eyes. Tank is a necessary class that is required for AoE grind. You are both necessary to clan to progress.
Don't need a clan leader change. I will simply not share clan leader acc, that's all.
There is no need to shell out cash for these things. It's fine.
I will not proceed to post screenshots that I didn't get to post before.
I am not against him solely for being archer. I'm against him periodically when he shows to be either against me or entirely selfish. This is about 90% of the time that I see these things. I totally acknowledge the value of Archer in end game pvp. I also extremely doubt Gun's ability to provide that value based on previous encounters and his seeming willingness to work against the clan. I gladly welcome being proven wrong here. The amount of risk involved in getting to that point is absolutely at a maximum.
I do not think your spoiler is in that useful of a state considering its gear. That is the only practical reason for why I would think to deny Gun access to that toon if it were to transfer clan leader tag. Other than that, I don't see why your trust in him shouldn't be rewarded. You don't have to put a pin in it on my account due to 5EU. It's a solution I offer.
That being said, he has a spoiler he can play already, so maybe it's not that big of a shut down.
I also want to say that I know I piss some people off for having anger toward Gun. These are very specific interactions I've had with him as tank. Very early on he would determine on his own that we were all moving too slow for his pace. He would pull before buffs. He would pull and create aggro problems for me. He would btfo me for trying to talk about it, suggesting I play more (badly at his level) than talk. This is blatant disrespect that has never been remedied. He disrespects me at every turn except when he believes he can extract value from me having a crafter. He and I are near timezones so we're online together more than anybody else except Dai and Rech. THE FUCKER PISSES ME OFF TO NO END. HE PROJECTS HIS STUPIDITY ONTO ME AND OTHERS. He accuses me of behaviors he does. It drives me absolutely fucking INSANE! AND HE ENJOYS THIS! I flip out on him publicly often just to be entertaining so I don't fucking lose my mind. It's a terribly stupid cycle, and I'm attempting to break it.
I wonder if Panz knows I put his character's name on referral when I started playing this game. Turns out he's a bigoted one who only saw my character as an obstacle to his "mage-only comp dream"™. Tries to bribe me to play something else to suit his tastes and harbors a grudge since I rejected it. Well, the kids gloves are officially off. I will not tolerate him goofing off with drama queen material in parties anymore because that helps nobody and wastes their time. Anons who don't play are likely turned off by his /tv/-tier posts as well. Good job on his part there.
How would I know something so far removed from me and never told to me. An obstacle? You join party and pull before buffs or pull to cause me aggro problems wasting mine and Recharge's mana. You actively worked against our efficiency because of your own stupid notions of speed. What it came down to was you not caring about the group's dynamics and just "wanting to shoot shit."
>Gloves are off
What kind of faggot wears gloves
Tries to bribe you? What the fuck are you talking about?
I do not have a mage only comp dream. This is fucking stupid. Our roster is and has been very cool. The only thing that pissed me off was Rud quitting. It's YOUR character that hates aoe farms.
Try to leverage the group against me for shitposting. Absolute fucking devil of a clanmate.
This was a webring invite, and you want to edge me out. You can sincerely kill yourself irl, Gun. You're a fucking piece of shit.
>I can do NOTHING for you if you can't tolerate some banter.
So a guy joining pt, not learning how the pt is functioning, starts doing what he wants, expecting us to react to his lead and follow him... this is banter to you
Or is his shittalking afterward banter
To me it's like we're a football team, and we hike the ball, but before QB gets the ball handed to him, Gun snatches it and throws it somewhere random, then laughs at us.
I don't know what it is you see that I don't see. A guy says he's going to quit, he says he won, he now tries to leverage group dynamics to make me an outsider. He wants me to leave. He wants to be king of a fallen empire, a crumbled castle.
Do you not think someone that makes someone else want to quit should be trying to remedy the situation? Is banter his strategy? I don't think so. Gun does not seek resolution. Gun just wants the gun show. He perceives aoe party as a threat. He perceived having to log into PP as a threat. How is this possible? What kind of brain thinks like this? His archer hit a wall, he leveled out of his rec farm. Now he logs PP and attempts to gain spoiler with CWH/Clan Leader. No thank you.
>the same faggot that's bitter about the class he picked and playing out of wagecuck obligation continues to spam watercooler drama about someone because they don't affirm his faggotry
Can you take your 60yrold christmas cake ass back to the office so I don't have to see this shit on the front page of /v/ always?
>I'll 100% support you leveling the crafter.
So you don't want me to play tank, you just want to make profit using my crafter.
It's the Gun show.
I love my class. When reading the list of options, it was high on the list.
Great shitpost though, faggot.
See, he projects everything. I bribed him to change classes for mage comp dream? The fuck is this. I recall trying to help him make a more intelligent decision. Or maybe I was trying to explain the feedback he was getting about how difficult it is to level archer etc.
He literally bribed me to level crafter. lol
I'm so sick of him.
We are 2/3rds of a football team expected to compete in preliminaries for a world tour with no players on the bench. One player starts to shit talk to pass the time, the coach doesn't really care and one guy that REALLY got mad goes to hit him with an uppercut. Every other recruit that sees the reaction and what coach tolerates - even as team seems to be relatively competent despite missing a large portion of the team - and wisely walks away.
I don't mind constructive criticism and I don't mind some spicy drama. But by god, if you keep sperging and do not finish your character arc properly.
>every second post that isn't yours mentions how archer is top tier meta
<waah how dare he not play around the way MY CLASS WORKS I want to play tank
Yeah man I'm sure you're not the problem
Just give someone your acc and stop posting so I don't have to see this shit. If you actually cared about the clan you'd do it too cos I can guarantee you your histrionic ass posting in the thread has lost the clan more man hours (from assuredly less retarded people than yourself, no less) than you've put in.
I was helping level sorc with SE when you logged in. Then you started shittalking me (again) unprovoked like you always do in party. All of this could be avoided if you can keep your mouth shut and focus on the game. Talk shit get hit.
>YOUR character that hates-
My character can use a pole just fine and has an AoE nuke. Thank you very much. You don't want to duo with me even though it benefits your main and our timeslots match. It is you who cannot adapt. One more thing, you are the first tank I've ever played with who whined when taking damage. You perform better when you don't talk.
Keep crying out to the void. Totally oblivious to how much of an ass you're making out of yourself. You said it yourself, you don't know why no one is taking your side in this pathetic "debate" of yours.
Wrong on all counts. It's seriously amazing how wrong you can be on everything. I said I know some people see my complaints as invalid, people that have not been on hardly at all.
You seem to think that my sole function is to stand there and let mobs beat on me indefinitely to just wait for you to finish all the things you're doing. I've quested with you, and you would see that I was being attacked by mobs, and you would run off into the distance (very fast as elf archer) to where I couldn't really keep up with you, and you would begin killing fresh mobs.
This was so fucking baffling to me and Skelly. We were talking in whispers as to try to figure out what the fuck was going on in your head. He thought you were trying to optimize the quest I think! Or he was saying he would have to figure out how to optimize it. I think that's what it was. I said you had tunnel vision. He was not sure. He was then shocked when you said it was then time to kill the mobs that were attacking me, the ones you were avoiding because mana, the ones you also needed for a quest. You were killing separate mobs that were all part of one quest because you had to complete each collection one at a time instead of all three at the same time.
You then mocked my frustration by saying I have heavy armor. You're so in another world, that I can't even fucking understand what it is you're thinking. Yes, I tank, but am I supposed to lose a third of my health to one mob because it is allowed to attack me freely while you farm other mobs? This makes no sense to me.
>My archer contributes fine in aoe
Then why do you feel threatened by us aoe farming? Only time I've seen you log early was when we were at aoe farms.
>Helping level sorc
This is the first time you've offered to play PP but you have asked for buffs hundreds of times. It's only when your archer hit the wall that you begin to help. You call it shittalking. Dai was going to hand the clan leadership account to you without discussing it with me. That's his prerogative, but I have serious problems with that decision. If you think that's shittalking, I don't care! I do not think you'll ever have the clan's interest in mind.
Not only are we not top tier play yet, it's doubted by many that we'll ever get there. So all the while we are playing with an archer that didn't sublcass archer, he is a clan expense. I bent over backwards trying to keep up a crafter specifically to help everybody including him despite everything.
There's no "benefit" to grouping with you. Our classes do not have synergy. If I use aggression on every single fucking mob you pull, I will go oom instantly. If I heal you while you're doing single target bullshit while running through the woods, I can't keep up with you. I do not enjoy running on a slow toon after someone that is fast, someone doing extremely tunnel vision tier shit. It's a fucking NIGHTMARE. I do not pair with noobs well either. When I'm a noob, I do my best to learn as much as I can and respect those that do. You accuse me of keeping my preconceived notions, but this is actually your projection. You're a stubborn, anti-learning sap.
>JUST GIB ME THE ANSWER
FUCK YOU. Everybody hates tedious questions after a while.
My talks about AOE were during holiday break when many people were offline. I was feeling very sub-optimally utilized because we only really had Kainoi for aoe dps. My toon can process large batches of mobs. If we're going slow and easy, I like that too. I can relax. I can heal. Your skills were improving. I began to tolerate grouping with you in medium+ sized parties. This does not resolve everything, not by a long shot.
Final statement tonight.
Only reason I've been needy for xp recently is partly because of the threshold for Nightmare gear at 61 but most enitrely because I was falling behind with aggro because I was waiting for clanmates to catch up. I was also waiting for clanmates to return from holiday break. XP is not a priority. Yet despite all this talk about xp not being a priority, Gun levels up anyways and pulls aggro multiple times. So I have to try to burst out some xp to catch up to the asshole that does not care about the clan. Levels up for gear he doesn't need because group is not that high yet and can't farm together. Let his faggot ass hit the wall despite all warnings. We shouldn't be breaking our backs for a retarded person with the most available play time. He can level his own spoiler.
>Alts kill the main
I'm still in shock by this retarded statement.
Everybody in the clan is awesome together. I know I'm a nuisance on the boards with this war with Gun, but he's a fucking problem.
A month break from Dai should not be feared. It's demoralizing to log in and see that the top 5 leveled players have all gained more levels. Some people cannot log in to be powerleveled. Some people want their time to contribute fairly. With the pace paused, others can catch up at their leisure. Top level players can do what they like. Continue to bang head against progress wall, roll alts to contribute to academy, or take a break. This is not an issue. If it really seems to fall apart, we make a post to announce reconvene. It may not be the high standards, high octane level of play, but we have mixed time zones, real life occurrences, and holidays to contend with. The serber isn't going anywhere fast. There's 3x/30x options for the spergs. I say we welcome the chill.
Screech will return. Araramis will return. The burnout will heal. Gun will join another clan, roll an alt, or play 30x. Who fucking cares.
Greetings amiable individual, could you please point out for me whom may you be quoting his excerpt from? I am questioning as I am slightly confused on the origin of this text you're refferencing. Thanks to you in advance and may you have a nice grind!
Maybe Rech is right. Tank might be too stressful for me to play with shit player like Gun. I went tank knowing everybody was skilled, and maybe I wasn't prepared to deal with suck.
Interesting proposition, Rech. SE was my first toon plan. Maybe we can just take turns.
I feel I must make it to S tier and experience this game. It's too good to quit. I'm just lost as to how to deal with Gun. Not exactly his poor skills but also his general retardedness.
Picrel is Gun's recent IQ test.
Fuck you. Next time I see you Panzer I'm gunna make fucking sure you know why `I` am the drama.
Fuck you: for making me log in out of sheer rage, only to not even be there so I can scream at you. Worse yet, I got so distracted by having a good time with the clan that I fucked up my sleep schedule again.
Hey guys, I'm just daydreaming here: What class would be more beneficial for us - overlord or wc? I guess, we do have more phys dd.
This bride is too strong for you, traveler
elf merchant, I'm going to betray the human race tomorrow and I require the NIGGEST elf-bride you got
Waifu seller, I'm going into battle and I need your brawniest females.
>everybody is online and having fun
Why did I get sick today?
Dai, could I borrow money to complete the MJ set? I can set up a shop for more stuff you want to sell.
Waifu seller, I'm going into battle and being a burden is discouraging. I'm only wasting everybody's time.
ANOTHER ORC DESTROYER
ROLL LIKE SIX HUNDRED OF THEM WE CANNOT EVER GET ENOUGH
or elven elder if you're into being a support
I'd rather not, we need to rush sws some doom plate armor or it will keep dying
we had trains today!
and please focus on getting better, it won't help if you force yourself to play one day but then get sick for a week when you could have cured yourself by then
>accidentally reposted screenshots from before
really wish panzer was here
Turns out all luck today was sucked out of rb drops and put into 3x 1/25,000 necklace of binding drops.
Also pic related. Extra characters can be continuously re-freighted if they are part of the same login, or they updated freight to stack.
>Take time off to unwind and calm down
>Realize I hated Gun for reasons that were more valid than I originally thought.
There's just so many situations I've been in with gun that so many of you seem to not know about. Walls of text offend Japanese, so I'll try to keep this brief. Edit: At least it's in one comment.
The pvp encounter at South Oren.
Here's the thing. Gun inserts himself into groups throughout 90% of my day and contributes next to nothing. he asks if he's needed, I say "no" in an unbiased manner, and he shows up anyway to dig into profits that were originally split x-amount of ways.
Skelly is farming south oren. Offers to help me with xp and also this optimizes his grind as I can put 2 groups together for him. We are going strong for a while. Gun asks if he can join "to help." Only thing slowing us down is the looting part of the grind, so Gun can come help loot. (Dig into profits as well.) We do this for a while, and I take an afk break for a meal. I come back and they have both been PKed and are buffing. They ask if I want to fight. We roll up on the duo and they log.
We grind for like 20 minutes, our buffs fall off. I was near leveling, so we pushed out 2-4%, something Gun thinks I should be groveling at him for (he's there to serve himself, not help). The duo returns and skelly forms a plan to jebait the dps into turning red on him so Gun and me can kill him. Skelly jebaits, dies, guy turns red, Skelly says "DROP HIM!" I go in and stun. No follow up. I look around, I do not see gun. I run in the direction I last saw him, I see the fadeout of his SOE. He logs. He never says one word. I try running to town. I die.
Now Dai has since taken sides with the archer for avoiding a dumb encounter, probably so there is no bulli happening here. We are gearing an Archer that is meta in end game pvp. We have an archer that has thus not proven himself in pvp. Gun defends himself by saying he was oom. Why was an archer that was there to loot, oom, when Skelly is oneshotting all groups? Why is the pvp toon going oom when a threat looms? Why does a clanmate soe log without speaking get so much defense from others? I don't get it. I don't care if the situation was dumb. You can't convince me abandoning clanmates without a word is right.
Second (recent) article of retardation. Gun asks for powerleveling on his spoiler from 15-20 at Ruins of Agony because he doesn't know what to do for those levels because we powerleveled him through it. Gun has been witness and told countless times that xp is not necessarily good, and should have been privy to conversations about how xp is enemy of spoiler. When confronted he says it's not profitable to farm animal bones. When laughed at, he says "alts kill the main." We are dealing with an absolute moron. Crafted Leather has been sky high. Leather has been sky high. Animal skins is quite a reasonable farm. He has oath armor. His archer is one of the top xp toons in the clan. He has the most playtime out of anybody. He bothers us with asking for powerleveling a spoiler!!!!
>Ah Panzer, you're being unreasonable.
The guy shows up to giant powerleveling area "to help" when told he's not needed. He steals mobs from my trains because he has elf speed. He has no aggro on the mobs, so I have to stay in kill zone to accept handoff so party doesn't die. I have to emergency heal him because he is taking damage. All the while, he is digging into profits, making me have to sit my toon, only increasing efficiency of powerleveling by maybe 1-5%, and then he has the gall to accuse me of being lazy by sitting in the pt kill zone.
He has no understanding of the game. He is just looking out for himself. He contributes often redundant energy. And he shits on ME because he thinks that I'm the idiota or bad guy.
I'm not quitting. I was going to quit if Dai handed clan keys off to Gun. Dai is not handing the clan keys off to gun. I appreciate that. My complaints are valid. He's simply here to shoot things.
Maybe I'm not being considerate by airing my complaints. Maybe it's not enough to say that bad publicity is good publicity. Screech is slowly returning. I can't or shouldn't be on as much as I have been, so hopefully this reduces clashes.
>Ah you're an aoefag and hate non-aoe players.
Brogue has shown himself time and again to be a strong player. He has shown me what it means to leave no man behind. I have no doubts Brogue is an immeasurable contributor to the clan. He has nothing to prove to me. He did nothing for the sake of proving to anyone. He's just that kind of guy. I went tank because I believe in Brogue and wanted to support and enable him.
I have no qualms with anybody in the clan except Gun. I haven't had any negative experiences with anybody else. I have had countless negative experiences with Gun. I'm not tiptoeing. I've obviously been losing my cool constantly. I'm working on that, and I sincerely hope to be friends with Gun. I can accept that these complaints are water under the bridge. I foolishly assumed airing them would produce that result. It simply refueled tensions. I'm setting the record straight as to how I've seen it. I don't have much energy to debate how to perceive the facts.
TLDR: Read or don't. Just setting some facts straight and adding to list of complaints about Gun that I feel are valid. I'm willing to accept this as water under the bridge, and we can move forward with a fresh face.
I don't need heat from Screech when he hasn't been here. I don't need heat from Triz when he's not usually on when these things happen. Also none of you need my freakouts whether you're privy to the context or not. I'll admit I've been playing too much and take this shit way too seriously. Gun is an asset simply for logging in so much. He's now sharing login with PP, so I foresee most of my complaints fastly becoming non-issues. His play has already improved a great deal. I don't know what else to say. I hope the matter is closed.
In other news I have found the Arc of the Covenant
I do remember some of the things you've pointed out like splitting trains, but at the same time, I'm sure it was weeks ago since I last saw it happen. There was also a time where in a cata, I think, gun ended up 1v1 on a mob and you made a caps comment in chat. Whether you played up for humour I don't know but these types of things are only entertaining to me. More recently in toi, gun ran over to group if he got aggro on a mob for us to dps down, rather than doing 1v1 and losing 30% hp. You could find a new thing to complain about everyday but as long as there are more things to stop complaining about I don't think you should get too bothered by it. There are more things you mention that I can't really say anything about since I wasn't there. Just make sure that it is not only still a problem, but one worth getting bothered by.
I have my own autism moments. My friendly fire chest bombings. I may have used aggro switch on an rb luckily it failed. I've aggroed too many bees once and wiped whole party. More train failing recently after a tree in the foreground blocked my mouse clicks and I died, less entertaining ones I'm too embarrassed to say. But even if someone held these against me, while I would feel bad, they are too funny to feel really bad about, I could even say they are thematic to my character arc.
Conclusion. Idk. I'm not around for a lot of the stuff. If you can find a reason to not care then that may be a way forward. If things aren't as efficient as you'd like, just live with the consequences and try not to get too bothered.
BINGO TIME IS BACK
I'm the fucking bingo fucking rogue, I want to fucking die. I am back for an almost 1,000 game bingo marathon. 972 bingo games vs me. Who wins? Who loses? If you play this game you already know, the dwarves always win. They always fucking win just look at the banks, look at the clan leader, what percent of the population are dwarves? How much is a warehouse medal actually worth? Find out today.
I've even been monitoring my apm over the past few weeks to mitigate rsi by using macros for ridiculous things. But now, destiny chooses to laugh at me. BUT NO. I laugh back! With the help of a volunteer slave, who helped for 200 games and didn't even want to be paid, and advanced modern technology, I became the first L2-Osu pro in the world. How many clicks does 1000 bingo games take you wonder? Haaaaa it takes 10,000. 1.Talk, 2.quest, 3.wh medal quest, 4.bet 10, 5.n1 (selection is obnoxiously low), 6.n2, 7.n3, 8.n4, 9.n5 (SOME REASON THIS NUMBER IS ONE CHARACTER HEIGHT LOWER THAN THE OTHERS), 10.n6.
To study this interesting phenomena I've created a diagram showing typical mouse movement. It is approximately a 1-1 pixel image and has the clicks indexed by their order.
But now time for the rewards.
Bingo Rewards. I'M SO EXITED.
2 Blacksmith Frame
13 Blue mold
Look, an entire inventory worth of eac with just one space left for the adena to put in warehouse. EAC to fill your wildest dreams. EAC of your darkest fantasies.
I have no willingness.
BINGO IS OVER.
Oh and I almost forgot to mention, It takes about 950 pixels worth of mouse moment per bingo game if you move in straight lines as in the diagram.
Congratulations! Brogue has accomplished the Bingo Bongo. I will probably buy out everything that's not EAC or EWC down the line so that this poor sod doesn't have to take forever to sell those mats at market prices. However, EAC and EWC he'll have to sell on his own. Everyone, please be mindful and respectful of his attempts to sell no less than 82 enchant scrolls on an offline shop limited to 5 slots in it.
Should have rolled 100 coins at a time, hue.
Maybe if I ignore this text wall, it will go away.
Sadly no recording, but I was on this mega boss, our party was in command channel (combined parties) with some high levels, they pk'd every one of pt member except me, maybe missed. I walked up and landed a fatal over hit on this boss and picked up loot while fags were flipping their tables. Of course it did not get into my inventory and no one shared epic items with me for this bravery. Yare~yare
I'm very much touched by my fellow clan members' generosity. Cheers.
Where did these come from? oh the different chronicles. They're all quite tasteful.
So uh... thinking about the current state of things and long term forecast. Seems like with Dai taking a month break (still up in the air??) we have a group that can potentially just grind away to subclass and catch people on the second lap around. Seems like we should just let this happen. As tank, I don't need to subclass or can subclass something solo like warlord if I ever get there. And I can level crafter at my own pace. I welcome the break from turbo grind, and I don't see the need for clan to die. I don't see why it would, honestly. Trubo grind is high gear, high octane. We have lower gears to work with.
2 cents plunked
C1-C2 was such a naive time.
We iz a clan.