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How do we get more people on the chadring? 8chan saw a massive exodus from cuckchan with niggergate as a catalyst. Chadring doesn't really have anything like that, it's kinda stagnating. Are we gonna turn into those sad losers that shill their dead altchans here? Maybe it's just the imageboards dying out in general but I think we can still think of something. What happened to all the people who never found their way here after the 8ch meltdown? Went back to cuckchan?
Don't want them or you, go away.
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>>92437 (OP) 
2257???
>What happened to all the people who never found their way here after the 8ch meltdown? Went back to cuckchan?
They went to nanochan. Cuckchan is full of CP and glowies!
>>92437 (OP) 
certainly not posting pics of that ugly whore
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>>92444
>nanochan
/who/
go shill your dead chan elsewhere
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>>92445
Gays aren't welcomed here.
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i miss 8ch
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i miss the people that i met in 8ch and i wish things could have gone in a better way
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>>92448
You don't have to be gay to hate STD-ridden whores.
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>>92437 (OP) 
Mostly dead imageboards are full of unironically toxic right wingers that want to be in a place full of like-minded people. Actual free thinking fun people don't go to imageboards and when they do they get tired of how populated and bait-tastically spammed 4chan is. If you leave 4chan you see nothing but a bunch of anal retentive autism trying to censor anyone being original, ergo no one ever posts even if they are from the imageboard's inception. 

Talking to yourself is pretty pointless, that's why the pph are bad.
>>92508
Fuck off fagatha.
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>>92510
>this children is spam
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>>92508
>this place is dead because you're not allowed to post nigger dicks
go back
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>>92508
kys nigger
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>>92539
>censoring (of legal things) is good for imageboards
anon I
>>92545
Not an argument.
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>>92444
Why do you post this gay character all the fucking time? Why do you roleplay this gay character all the fucking time? That anime sucked. I watched 3-4 episodes and dropped it. Fuck you for making me curious after I saw you posting like this on multiple imageboards.
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>>92559
kys nigger
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>>92468
nice cope fag
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>>92560
>I watched 3-4 episodes and dropped it
Fucking normalfag
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>>92446
only a wigger wouldn't know about nanochan
>>92586
nobody knows your gay dead altchan
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>>92437 (OP) 
>What happened to all the people who never found their way here after the 8ch meltdown?
/r9k/ and /v9k/ definetly killed themselves
some left the internet/imageboards entirely (i recall a specific anon saying that on 8ch)
some went back to cuckchan
some are on 8coon, 8moe, zzz
anywhere else i have no fucking clue

>>92457
i had such a love/hate relationship with that site but only after it was gone did I realize how much it truly meant to me and how much fun I was having there overall.
my best times on the internet was spent there
met bro tier dudes made some irreplaceable (not all in a good way) friends from there.
i was myself and could truly be myself, I dont care how many slurs i got called I felt like I was truly free there
but now its dead and gone and i feel partly empty and the only thing can can bring back even a fraction of the happiness i had from there is this ghost town of a site
8ch was meant to die one way or another, everyone knew it would happen eventually, whether it was owned by hotwheels or jim they would have suicided it either way

markchan fucked up, marks gone insane and banhappy, too many goons, retards and pedophiles, that site is a miserable place to be unless you have stockholm syndrome.

>>92586
they should join the webring so they can be less dead.
>>92591
>they should join the webring so they can be less dead.
nanochan is tor-only. A-And it is not dead!
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>8chan
Nothing of value was lost: >>85950
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>>92591
>they should join the webring so they can be less dead.
lets gooo!
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chans suck now because of course left wingers heard about them and they cant let a good thing exist
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>>92444
>Cuckchan is full of CP and glowies!
<recommends a Tor-only imageboard
>>92591
>my best times on the internet was spent there
cringe and gay
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>>92619
There's way less cp on tor than the clearnet
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>>92666
really gets the old nogger mc joggernogger jr up and running
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>>92619
>Is picky about TOR-only boards
<Has no problem posting on a board which scalps IP addresses
I'm guessing you also have an issue with 8moe (aka blacked.gov.cookie.fed.mark.gay)
>>92669
>feds post most cp
>most cp bots are clearnet
>most cp bots can't solve even trivial captcha (that can be ocr'd by random anons)
>posting cp on some hidden service of unknown ownership can't lead to arrests/blackmail opportunities
not really that shocking
>>92591
>only after it was gone did I realize how much it truly meant to me and how much fun I was having there overall.
>my best times on the internet was spent there
Agreed man, I still remember the day I got on my computer and the site wouldn't load. Took a couple days of it not working for me to realize what had happened. Went on 08chan for a while but that didn't work well. I drifted for a couple months with no imageboard until I found one of the webring sites and I'm still here now.
>>92619
You could require mkproof.
big
don't reply to this guy he's a /cow/ spammer weasel leaves unbanned
he and weakload have ruined /cow/ and if you reply to him he will take up residence here too
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Anyone who ruins /cow/ is a hero in my eyes.
Still a shit thread tho.
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>>92755
>sage is always butthurt
kek
>kek is always kek
kek
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>>92764
>sage is always butthurt
kek
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>>92437 (OP) 
Why would any one want to post on a board of
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>>92792
37 of the current 40 replies are complete garbage bordering on spam. How do you think we make people want to be on the webring? I'll give you a hint. You stop every thread looking like this one.
>>92866
>oh no, posts on a /b/ board aren't high quality
That's what this board is for you retarded newfaggot
Even cuckchan is pretty slow these days. and if you lurk on their /pol/ you'll see a lot of the 2016 userbase there mentioning 8chan by name
You can either embrace the small community or hope that some other medium/platform comes along that appeals to the same demographics.
>>92869
Which is why /b/ should be replaced with something else, like /banter/.
>>92869
I can see the same issue across all the webring. It's not even /b/, it's every board.
>>92886
I know.

Avatarfags are all a type of cancer that needs banning. And you posted complete bullshit to shill a pedo dark web image board no one with half a brain cell would touch.
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>>92508
/trannypol/
>>92437 (OP) 
8chan was a one hit wonder. You're talking about a different internet and wider culture 9-8 years ago. Gamergate was a very unique event that almost certainly cannot be replicated because it involved society getting its innocence cherry officially burst. Once the cherry is burst, its burst. Leftists have assumed control everywhere. We're like 10 social media mass shootings deep into the nu-internet now. Law enforcement is up the ass, so even if there was another mass exodus for some reason, Cloudfare already proved they will cut you off because Nazis. Feds are all up in social media now. Remember the Jim subpoena? Cops printed their screenshots of 8chan feeds with their own (you)s showing. Everyone in the world would be gunning for us and still are. That's how dangerous right wing ideas are to shit eating leftist hegemony. The only other thing I can think of that would force an exodus would be 4chan getting shut down....8chan.moe would probably see all the traffic but we would get some too. However, if 4chan can go down, what makes you think we would survive during and after the exodus? It's a completely different game. The mask came off awhile ago now. 
What happened to all the people? They either went back to 4chan or left the internet entirely.
>>92890
>leftists have control
duped right winger is duped
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>>92891
fuck you lol
>>92893
fuck you
>>92869
>/b/ has to be a complete shithole
At that point, why even bother having a /b/ board at all if it's just going to be a cesspool of trash?
I thought the webring was supposed to try to be better than cuckchan, not emulate it.
>>92437 (OP) 
it seems at least a few went back to 4chan, check out this thread.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/379495284#p379503621
I refuse to use 4chan as they don't allow vpns or Tor. The first thing law enforcement look for is your IP address.
>>92890
>gamergate
some irrelevant newfag cancer drama
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>>92907
t. Butt blasted game journalist
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>>92866
I tried to warn you bros, but instead you kept replying to delphine spammer
zzzchan is already dead now
>>92900
When /b/ was the biggest board, possibly on the whole internet influence wise other boards would say "Get out /b/tard" for people posting garbage. Then for whatever reason "shit posting" became popular and it drove everyone else to sites like Reddit, Facebook and Discord. Anons left because the noise to signal ratio was awful and any attempt to fix it is met with nothing but smug anime girls and more posting.

Pro tip faggots. Anime and being a weeb are different. Including an on topic picture or discussing an anime is very different to living in a 24/7 anime bubble and not being able to post without including anime girls or lolicon. You would have been bullied and banned pre-image boards collapse. But now everyone worth a damn has left so you crawl around the sludge and diarrhea acting like niggers screaming WE WAZ ANONZ
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>>92930
They've all been actively and successfully subverted and all attempts at making any IB a fun, interesting, informative or creative place will be viciously suppressed 24/7 by glowies and their paid shills.
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>>92900
>newfag doesn't even know what /b/ is for
go back to reddit
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>>92930
If you want us to post more loli for you fags, all you had to do was ask, anon.
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>>92931
I'm convinced the pedophiles are all feds. You can see one above this post. There were never this many pedos on 8ch outside of hidden boards used to dump sets and share them before Pig farmer or his kike pet could delete them.
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Friendly reminder that Russia will be hosting the ((( International Anti-Fascist Congress ))) this August.
>Being a pedophile didn't derail the thread
>Better try the anti-/pol/ images now! They will definitely take this bait

Cuckchan boards don't have identities now either. You can't tell any of them apart if you browse the site. They all look like /co/ or eceleb junk
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>>92937
Are you alright, son? Did you get dropped on your head as a kid? Lolicon ain't pedophilia. Now go back to /tv/.
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>/pol/ is one person
>>92935
i am convinced you are a retard
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>>92900
you are half the reason its shit
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>>92941
>sage is always butthurt
kek
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>>92943
>it-it isnt me that is the p-problem!
>h-hes b-butthurt
>yeah t-thats it!
Fuck off back to tvch, you gay mongoloids.
>>92909
t. newfag
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>>92930
"get out /b/tard" was the response to someone typing "nigger" for the lulz in the chat of a video game. it was primarily used by proto-redditors who needed to avoid being associated with edgy stuff in order to fit in with their peers
sage for low quality posters having a serious discussion
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>>92947
At the peak of /b/ xbox live was the biggest multiplayer gaming service and it was infamous for kids saying nigger at each other. I'm talking on functional boards on 4chan, where /b/ was hated when it leaked and spammed low quality memes every where. Each board was almost it's own site in terms of culture.
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>>92437 (OP) 
Any moar from this set, OP?
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>>92948
Stop making good posts in shit threads.
>>92949
i only ever browsed /b/ you fucking retard.
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If the organic consensus of your site's users wants the site to be about other sites' jannies, then that's they way it's gonna be. If you don't like that, then you can try to force your own ((( culture ))) on everyone Nanochan style and become another boring, dead shithole where only anime and trannie issues get discussed 24/7 until the site implodes with cancer and even the regulars eventually ghost. Nanochan isn't even on life support at this point, it's just dead and being picked over for carrion.
You can't have it both ways, you either let chaos sort itself out or you become another trannyjanny that kills your own child in the womb.
There was a turning point some time ago where this flood of idiots suddenly discovered imageboards and the dark web and thought it was some safe space sekrit club for their autistic interests and sensitivities. It isn't. So, the more you seek shelter in places like this, the more you'll be hunted down like a wounded animal and cannibalized. If you need a safe space, then fuck off back to clearweb where the nannystate will protect you 24/7.
It doesn't even matter if I fuck off elsewhere or do something else with my time, because someone else will soon come and fill the vacuum. Most of you are just too naive and inexperienced to fully realize how the game is played.
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>>92955
>every1 tries 2 force their own culture
a schizo would perceive it that way, in reality since there are no users u just c the same shit posted over and over
chans only die when the admin decides to kill them
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>>92956
>chans only die when the admin decides to kill them
You can't kill what's already dead
>>92954
So you don't know what you're talking about.
>>92866
>'chad' cuckchan word being in the OP
>complaining that the thread is low quality
>posting that actress 
>responding to comments that ended up deleted (aka faggot enabling) 
>taking issue my calling out that 'fuck off fagatha' is spam
>>92907
Things like gaygate and pissagate are q-tier in their hysteria. Sheep fall for mass hysteria. It'd be a nicer site if news-watchers could be killed off but no one is mindful enough to realize why poltardation is bad even as they sit there and complain about it they probably sit there paying 'attention' to updates on things when we're a stagnant society. 
>>92930
I want to agree with you but that part about anime and being a weeb being different triggers me to be honest.
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>>93003
If it triggers you then question why. Liking anime and wanting to be the little girl are very different. Todays weebs are as bad as furries used to be, maybe even worse. Furries at least didn't demand you call them a woman like trannies do and you can't split weeb obsession with anime away from trannies. They're co morbid.
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>>93027
It's just autism. Literal brain damage.
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>>93003
>reddit: the post
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>>93025
is she trying to poop
>>93027
>he doesn't wish to be the little girl
But why?
>>93029
>if you're not a normalfaggot you are autistic
Strawman logic.
>>93033
Further strawman logic. Such argument. Wow.
>>93047
Tell me, is the strawman in the room with us right now?
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>>93047
>Be autistic
But why do I get called autistic!? You must be a functional healthy person and that's BAD!

Fuck off nigger. You already admitted to being a tranny and shitting up boards. You're the type of person who can only post on the webring as any where else would ban you.
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>>93052
>tranny!
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>>93055
>tranny posting a parrot
how ironic
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>>93056
>posts video about how parroting drives p*ople insane
Kinda just supports my own cause. Ironic?
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>>93057
>supports my own cause
The journey to the 60%?
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>>93059
But isn't that statistic fabricated? Just curious?
>>92946
I bet you don't even remember ChistianU2uber/JoshU2uber or Shoop Da Whoop
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>>92437 (OP) 
didn't like posting at cuckchan since there is the gcaptcha abomination (spyware) around every corner of the webs unless I was using internet connection that is disconnected to my identt (it was revealed that they had a thing where /r9k/posters got glowniggered by G).

it still has ganalytics (spyware) today but that can be blocked in client side, hiro is based btw for killing the dreaded spywarecaptcha but still there's no way knowing if 4cuck servers aren't not only glowed but also G-lowgled (r9k deanonymization/funded incident).

the problem is it's hard to hold actual conversations like this thread in cuckchan 2019+, this wasn't the case back in 2016~2018 where I even had a shitposting setup to work around gcaptcha et.al. since some of the posters are pretty nice and I point them to other chans and I noticed what really developed early 2019-2022 is soyjak spam everywhere.
there even used to be nice threads in /b/ where you can talk with people, disclosures, whislteblowers and other interesting stuffs. these days it's either GPT bots or the millhouse posters who now force soyjak and think they're relevant in the culture (homeschooled pandemicfags or kym/twitchniggers).

8ch meltdown was the problem since there used to be a lot of communities with high PPH but it seems 8ch users (non-polfags) have moved back to cuckchan/discords/webring/federated - actually some 8ch old-timers only recently made webrings ~2020-2021 since some of them didn't do that at first after the September 2019 8ch death and went back when cuckmonkey brought back the old database snapshot in mid 2020.

also. if you're a crestresearch employee [reading this], fuck off and kys. if you're a qnigger(also known as NSA operation deanonymization of whistleblowers, controlled opposition), fuck off and kys too.
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>>93047
liking anime is about the most normalfaggot thing you can like these days.
try again
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fun facts: autists mostly enjoy normalfaggot pursuits but use their brain abnormality as a way to differentiate from muh 'normies' although they are just social outcasts who crave 'normie' things themselves.

aspies are the ones who gravitate and fixate on niche and obscure interests. they claim it's on the ((( spectrum ))) but i disagree because most of them are functional, unlike autists
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>>92890
Good post.
>8chan.moe would probably see all the traffic
lmao no, blacked.org is deader and more obscure than the webring. If anything they will go back to 8coom.
>However, if 4chan can go down, what makes you think we would survive during and after the exodus?
Chadring can never be taken down.
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>>93083
the jews recently reclassified aspergers as not real
try again
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>>93094 
Now she just needs to learn how to gape and squirt so she can keep her paypigs interested
>>93095
>jooz said x
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>>93094
>dat red, inflamed mons
she's a shaver for sure. i can almost smell the yeast infection
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i want a gf whose cunt smells like deep fried onion rings
>>93093
If you're referring to the Watkins' site, there's no chance of that happening because of the loli ban alone, to say nothing of the site being neglected for Q grifting.
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>>92437 (OP) 
imagine the braps
>>93100
cuckchanners don't post loli, they are also qzoomers themselves
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>>93098
shaving doesn't cause yeast infection, moron
inb4 hur dur in 0.01% of cases it does you're wrong
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>>93103
Their /b/ has a 24 hour loli thread going so they definitely do.
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>>93108
it's inoffensive loli
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>>93109
It's all offensive you glowie pedophile.
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>loli is offensive
you're a fucking retard why do you even use ibs
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>>93130
>seething
kek
>>93130
You're replying to a /cow/ raider
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>>93106
>dragging a dirty razor and shredding the moist skin that's covered up in a dark moist environment doesn't cause and encourage infections
<hur dur
https://web.archive.org/web/20210515173048/https://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/why-shaving-your-vagina-or-pubic-hair-is-not-a-good-idea-d1215-349510/
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>>93080
>breathing is for normalfaggots 
>normalfaggots like good food
>normalfaggots like sleeping
>etc
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>>93180
>>normalfaggots like good food
They don't.
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>I like $THING because it's not popular, um, I mean it is popular but only with other people I don't even know but who shitpost with me on $ALTSOCIALMEDIA
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>>93184
You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
>>92437 (OP) 
Split userbase.
Some went webring others went 8moe and some are even on endchan 16chan and other imageboards.
I've been off imageboards for the last couple weeks and I don't typically come to zzz, usually 8moe/v/ and plw/hgg/ so there's that
>>93141
why does the razor have to be dirty?
>quotes blogspam to back up his "point" that thing that is obviously safe is not safe because they aren't sure if it's safe because they're too retarded to have any notion of how the human body works and don't have a study to cite saying that it's safe (also this looks like a fucktarded naturalist site and they just automatically are against anything that is not """natural""")
>this faggot probably agrees with it because he's a reactionary and just automatically is against anything he doesn't like and makes up health reasons for it
you're a retard.
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>>93130
Grown men fantasizing about fucking children and trying to normalize that IS offensive. You've been groomed by pedophiles and don't understand why you're spreading that to groom others, but you are.

Seek help if you imagine having sex with children. Being rejected by adult women doesn't make it acceptable to fetishize minors
>>93274
You would have better support if you said it's immoral or unethical. Offensive just makes you sound upset about younger competition and opens you up to being called a roastie, much the same way your reddit spacing opens you up to being called out for that.
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>>93130
The human body is very offensive :^)
>>93278
>Haha, I was going to address your argument but you made a grammar mistake. Nice try bucko!
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>>93281
no I'm not even the guy you were talking to, I'm just giving you the time of day even though your post is a joke not worth responding to so you understand why people think you're retarded
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>>93282
Try reading the thread instead of enabling pedos.
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>>93284
I'll enable lolicon weebs before I enable normalfag roasties
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>>93285
OK Groomer
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>>93286
nah you're just shit at arguing and you reek of foreigner
>>93286
cope
>>93274
lolicon has nothing to do with sex or real children, retard
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>>93269
If it's not sterile, it's dirty and no one sterilizes their razors before shaving, especially tinder slut roasties who are most likely to shave their pussies, and get infected, not to mention their STIs.
Razors are inherently destructive to human skin, if you doubt that, ask a dermatologist and talk to a gynecologist while you're at it who also advise against shaving.
If you don't want pussy hair, either wax or have it permanently removed.
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>>93312
>uuuh, she's 600 years old your honor
okay pedo
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>>93353
seethe pedo
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Pedos don't care if you hate them, as long as you are thinking about them and talking about them. If you aren't talking about them they'll create another thread to remedy that.
Even literally trannies, faggots and SJWs aren't as attention whoring as pedos. They are on the bottom of society on any metric any healthy society cares to measure.
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Ask your president if he's a bottom of society.
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>>93365
Biden is an honorary jew, so it doesn't count.
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>>93354
>n-no u
classic pedo deflection
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>>93356
Fucking pancakefags! Pancakes, pancakes, pancakes, that's all it ever is with you pancakefags! Fuck! I fucking hate pancakes and I fucking hate pancakefags!!!
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>>93382
glow harder
>>93181
<I'm eating raw dandelions RIGHT NOW
>implying good means what you think it means 
It's ambiguous as hell. If you ate plain lentils you'd be mentally ill but healthy, define GOOD. 

Also thanks for being too autistic to get the fucking point. 

>>93274
>implying they were rejected
That being  wicked way to strawman aside, I have to ask.... why doesn't it make it acceptable? Why? 
>because I feel like anger mongering but are very bad at it and choose the bottom of the barrel to shoot at when I pick on others!
Okay then. 
>>93356
Everyone is an attention whore and pedos are the most hated. That's just how it is. Well, if pedos were really real they'd be attention whores but as it is with how rare actual pre-pubescant fucking of kids is, and not just fucking them but actually doing it and only fucking them primarily rather than other people, that being so rare of course they'd have to be VERY VOCAL. All it is is an anger mongerer that might just not even care at all. If it does it's probably an autistic female because all spiteful about not getting laid while  young enough to be attractive. 

>>93365
>>93372
>ooooh ooooh BIDEN
kys and stop bringing this shit up, it's not relevant you little morons

one man doesn't control shit you shitbrained normalfaggots 

They had a meme to stop this shit called 'thanks obama' and then still it happens not that long later on. 

>is a man that has control over 33.3333 percent of his government bottom of a society
Fucking retardation man. Bringing him up is top tier retarded normalfaggotry but posting THAT.... come the fuck on.
>>92437 (OP) 
Stop rulecucking. Thats all i want. But just like markchan they cant help themselves but to ban any posts thry personally dont like.
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>>93417
Can someone actually explain to me what "rulecucking" actually means?
>>93422
It should ve pretty obvious. Its when they delete posts that doesnt break the rules. They delete posts that they personally dont like.
>>93425
and they think it's 'funny'
>>93425
also having retarded rules
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>>93348
know what i never went full jew blaming before but you must be a jew who gets ingrown hairs every time you shave them
>ask a dermatologist and talk to a gynecologist while you're at it who also advise against shaving.
you are neither and have not talked to a credible one of either
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>>93425
>>93452
>the rules are bad
>the mods aren't taking the rules seriously
Which is it, nigger?
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>>93422
lurk for 20 years newfaggot
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>>93454
stay mad, roastie
>>93422
>>93479
Rulecucking actually refers to the rules. Mods that ban people because they aren't conforming to their (personally defined) safespace are hotpockets (obviously that grammar is wrong but w/e). Rulecuckery is an admin level issue and very often comes as a result of either shitmin jannies making their own board or site owners complying with federales.
Groups like /intl/ like to cause drama and get banned for it. They claim any sort of moderation or calls for better moderation is rules cucking. It's a Jewish tactic where you act like a faggot then call people antisemitic when they point out Jews act like faggots. I'm not saying any of the webring is well moderated but the rulescuck term has been around for ages.
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>>93505
>They claim any sort of moderation or calls for better moderation is rules cucking.
It is, cos it's cucking the board itself which isn't supposed to have rules and has a culture of botposting etc.
There hasn't been an /intl/ since like 2019 or whenever freech gave up the ghost tho
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>>93510
Where's your board? I want to botpost on it, brah
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>>93511
You can't, I crashed it with scriptposting and it died more permanently not that long after recovering
If I ever find I've been compelled to host a site myself (e.g. if every torpostable /jp/ dies) I'd probably host the lounge on a separate server to the rulecucked boards for just this reason
>>93374
No, he's right. You're clearly projecting.
>>93505
t. rulecuck
Just go to Frenschan you fucking dickheads
Free from nonces, trannies, nigger dick spammers and faggots
It has good moderation, the mods are based, but fair, and its not dead
BIG
FREEDOM
>>93641
>needs javascript for captcha
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>>92437 (OP) 
When will she finally allow herself to be blacked and impregnated for epic joobux so she can have give a farewell "lmao @ u losers!" token of appreciation to all her cucked simp army paypigs?
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>>93702
Soon. She's built for BBC.
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Go away glow niggers, no one cares if your jewish waifu fucks a nigger.
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>>93821
we all do
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>>93823
wh*te women are disgusting
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>>93824
>prefers black men
get this faggot outta here.
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BIG
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Nothing gets my pee pee hard anymore.
Thanks for reading.
>>93936
MAC
DUCK
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black lives matter
>>93817
>>93702
>>93821
>>93823
BASED
>>93827
unbased
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As someone who unironically went back to 4chan ("back" since gamergate 8chan wasn't my first imageboard), the reason I left the webring is because it was full of obnoxious faggots who are incredibly picky about what you're allowed to post, and are constantly jumping at shadows looking for boogiemen (which mostly consist of other imageboards). Everyone's so desperate to prove how unique of a secret club member they are and totally not like those icky cuckchanners that they became more annoying and no-fun-allowed than cuckchanners themselves.

And despite this annoying gatekeeping, the most obnoxious community destroying kike puppets (e.g. the "herd"niggers and similar shills) are running rampant turning every discussion into shit and board/imageboard wars because people have 0 ability to detect and ignore bait let alone ban people for deliberately shitting up threads with it. After talking about this problem for years and seeing basically no improvement at all (except ironically this /b/ specifically which started curbing some of the shills), I just decided to go back to 4chan. If you're going to look at retarded shit and bait and infighting all the time anyway and nobody makes anything, what's the actual value that this place gives?

4chan also has more places to go to if you want to talk about something or post something fun because people don't lose their shit at "low quality" threads. People in the webring loved to claim how much they're taking it easy and have fun, but if you try to post a fun thread then people will lash out and start calling out various boogiemen looking for who might be responsible for this thread that has less than 500 words in the OP and/or didn't appeal to their personal sense of humor. There's generally more places to go to if you want to talk about something because there's significantly more active threads and boards. If you want to talk about animals or see animal pictures then there's nowhere to go in the webring, but 4chan has /an/. There's a lot of topics that are like this.
>b-but you can go to /b/
And what, watch retards post rancid roastie cunts when you wanted cute cat pictures or talk about food?

Towards the end I was basically only browsing /tech/ and /agdg/ in /v/, but after realizing that people in either place don't fucking make anything and /tech/ mostly consist of dunning kruger retards who think Lisp is the savior of mankind despite never using it for anything more complicated than fizzbuzz, that was the end. 4chan has like 4 different game development threads (permanent in /vg/, now and then in /g/, semi-permanent in /v/, saw one in /vrpg/ a few times but don't know how common it is) and at least 2 different programming threads in /g/.

To put the problem into a sentence: 4chan has significantly more shit but it also has significantly more fun. The more you learn to ignore/filter the shit, the further ahead 4chan gets compared to the webring.

The only real downside of 4chan (besides file/character limitations) is that it's much harder to have and catch in-depth discussions in the main boards because threads get pruned so fast, you literally can't go to sleep without most/all of the catalog being wiped. But you can still have them in the slower boards or if you happen to run into a good thread. For example /vm/ and /vrpg/ are significantly slower videogame boards than /v/ and as a result you can find many fairly involved discussions about things.

I don't know how much the webring has changed since I last posted here (though I doubt it has) so I don't know how much this applies, but my "advice" for making this place better is the same it has always been:
1. Stop jumping at shadows looking for boogiemen and attacking anything that doesn't fit into your perfect mold. If you don't like what someone posted or isn't funny enough or the image wasn't invented by a local nationalist pretzel bakery then ignore it instead of attacking it and making people feel like they have to walk on eggshells when they post here.
2. Relax about "quality", give people more breathing room to post things. There's no reason some old ass thread at the bottom of the catalog that hasn't been posted in for 2 months needs to be preserved like it's a national treasure.
3. Unrelax about bait and board wars, it's far too easy for a single person to completely shit these places up and turn everyone against each other.

I feel a little bad posting this on /b/ here because this board was the first one that started doing #3 and genuinely seemed to try to improve things.
>>94132
tl;dr holier than thou bullshit who thinks who has it all figured out
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>>94132
go back.
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>>94132
>Telling anons not to fall for bait
Where do you think you are?
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>>94132
>The only real downside of 4chan (besides file/character limitations) is that it's much harder to have and catch in-depth discussions in the main boards because threads get pruned so fast, you literally can't go to sleep without most/all of the catalog being wiped.
The only real downside is that you can't post and there's no catalog, but neither of those is really a dealbreaker.
It does mean that if you want to post you're going to be posting on some altchan though.
>And what, watch retards post rancid roastie cunts when you wanted cute cat pictures
Your faggot cats are every bit as disgusting as any other 3dpd, nigger
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>>94138
The methods for baiting replies and emotionally manipulating people are getting more and more refined over time and there's even organizations that research this shit, but people's ability to ignore or hide bait doesn't seem to be improving much at all. At this rate imageboards are going to be a relic of the past not because people move on but because they don't work, something needs to change.

>>94139
>you can't post and there's no catalog
I assume you mean without Javascript. The catalog is kind of weird, it's actually embedded into the page as a JSON snippet, you can extract and display it pretty easily with a userscript.
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>>94144
>The catalog is kind of weird, it's actually embedded into the page as a JSON snippet
Oh shit, you're right.
I guess I'll double down on getting pranked when people forgot the thread title on /vg/
>or hide
But why?
Part of the problem is an obvious problem of motivation. Dramaniggers are here to use imageboards as social media, and the worst of those are the ones that aren't having fun (as compared to say, the herdniggers who are 14yrolds and/or tweaking) who are using altchans for imaginary clout. Naturally, the lamest dramaniggers are precisely the people who'd not only try to become moderators but almost inevitably always will on sites with board creation.
Turn to Stone is the best song on Out of the Blue.

I wonder if if I revived the practice of a mirroring archive that you can post in if anyone would use it
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Most of this thread is filled with shitty posts from some of the most unpleasant, sad people imaginable, and somehow its a mystery why the webring is so quiet and unfunny.
Most smaller imageboards are filled with people who think they're too good for 4chan, and as such these places are filled with never ending drama and nasty motherfuckers who scream REDDIT and NEWFAG and CUCKCHANNER at everything they don't like. These people have such little self-awareness its insane.

The self-righteous idiots who scream "newfag/reddit/normalfag" at anyone asking questions and/or trying to bring new creativity and perspective to a board are x100 times more annoying and detrimental to a boards quality than whatever they think they're fighting against. Never mind the fact that to even find these small imageboards in the first place its extremely likely you had used 4chan for a while beforehand. Never mind the fact that anonymous "culture" is a forever-changing mass, and gas ass "rules/guidelines" are perpetuated by faggots who feel like imageboards are their own personal property.

Newsflash: 4chan is used by tens of millions of people. Go watch Moot's retirement Q&A. From the very beginning it was used by teenagers (like Moot himself) and will continue to be used by teenagers forever. Its the natural cycle of things. Ideologies change. Memes change. Don't like it? Too bad. You were too weak to handle it, so you came here, didn't you?

>>94132
I read your post brah, don't worry. I agree with pretty much everything you've said.
>/tech/
Ah, I wrote and deleted a block of text in my upper post, but I'll just repeat it here since I saw this again

Imageboards as a whole are pretty shitty for learning. Everything I've learned I learned on my own, and extremely effectively. Boards like /g/ and other "learning" boards are so consistently wrong and filled with trash its absolutely insane. I actually feel bad for anyone who learns athleticism/programming/literature from them. 4chans /g/ is people parroting the same shit that has been said for years, and other /tech/ boards are filled with arrogant, autistic old men who's newest, most powerful computer has "486" written on a sticker next to the keyboard. You can learn so, so much more from dedicated forums and small subreddits where years old posts are archived for quick lookup and people actually care to help you.
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>>94146
>4chan is used by tens of millions of people
The world is shit because the vast majority of people are shit. What's your point?
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>>94147
Most people are just trying to get through their own lives. I really don't care what they're doing, and I certainly don't think or call them "shit".

The point is: 4chan is always, ALWAYS going to be changing. The main demographic of the site was and continues to be teenagers and young adults. The site is so large and has so many users that one can't expect it to work in the ways they want, and its going to do stuff you love and hate, regardless of how you feel. Moot himself wanted the site to reach as many people as possible. He wanted to spread anonymity because of its ability to let people express themselves with little barrier to entry. New users are not the problem, but rather, the people on /a/ and /v/ and everywhere else who bitch about "summerfags" and "newfags" despite the former being disproved by Moot himself and the second being a completely meaningless term. Its actually pretty funny seeing wapanese losers on small imageboards cry about the state of 4chan because people are discussing things they don't like personally and haven't watched over 9000 moe 3-to-4-girls-doing-fuckall-for-12-episodes shows like they have.
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>>94148
You are trash and I wish you didn't know about this place
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>>94132
I understand, anon. Cuckchan is still shit in my opinion and I'm not going back there no matter what, but I do appreciate you explaining where and how the webring fails. I wish you could stay and help us out, to elevate the webring to a golden era, but if not, I understand as well. For my part, I'll do what I can for the good of these sites.
>>94149
You can think of me whatever you want, but the reality is: I am here, whether you like it or not, although you'd probably be happy to know that I only visit /b/ on this imageboard once or twice a week. I used /v/ for a little while last year, but just ended up leaving after every thread would devolve into crappy arguments and people just being unpleasant for no reason whatsoever. Kind of a shame too since there were occasionally extremely high quality threads like this one https://archive.ph/gVTeF.
Please just try and find some happiness in these places. That's all I really ask of people. Imageboards could be so much more if people would have even inklings of empathy within themselves.
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>>94150
This is the most cucked comment I've read here this month at least.
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>>94151
Why do you think I'm here nigger? Because I hate it? I'm here because I don't have to deal with retards like you. 4cuck is like reddit but you have to pay to use a VPN.
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>>94152
Is it? 
>>94153
I think you're here because you've let imageboards brainwash you into becoming a more hate-filled and angry person, that's what. 
>pay to use a VPN
Passes aren't VPNs, unless you're talking about those weird industrial VPN things that let's you use tens of thousands of IPs. Tor was banned almost instantly and 99% of VPNs have also been banned forever. If you find a VPN that isn't banned, well its because they simply haven't found it yet.
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>>94132
While I mostly agree with you, don't think cuckchan isn't also like the webring but with worse moderation on some boards. I only use cuckchan's /tg/ and mods there will ban you for "being rude" if you disagree with someone and don't kiss their ass as you tell them so. 

If you want wild life pics try https://scrolller.com/r/CatGifs scroller scrapes Reddit and organizes the images into a scrolling webpage. Lets you avoid Reddit being Reddit while getting yourself what you want.

The webring is kill though. I'm still looking for a place to call home and hanging around here just long enough until I do. The webrings like that ex girlfriend you go back to between relationships because she's always there, you don't really care but it fills a void while you find a real solution. I'm pretty sure it's being intentionally sabotaged but I'm not sure who's doing it.
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>>94156
Honestly, I've learned over time that the only way to succeed is to simply not play the game. The happiest moments in recent times were with real people doing fun shit in real life, and in those moments my time on imageboards diminished greatly. To leave you have to reject the mental programming though, which is very difficult for most people. I personally use multiple small imageboards on a daily basis, visit some subreddits, visit Hackernews, watch Youtube, and kind of just look up other interesting things that I come across. I feel as though it helps not to have accounts on any of these sites, so you can always have access to a fresh stream of unique, interesting content, rather than being locked into your own little world by the big G. Most of reddit sucks donkey balls but some small subreddits are actually quite decent, especially the technology-oriented ones. Most of Hackernews is thinly-veiled advertising, but almost every day I'll find some new interesting thing that makes it all worth it, like some 3D interactive ancient history site or some cool, powerful tool for development. Youtube is a gigantic website, and if you think its bad, then you're simply not in the right areas. Youtube comments are usually the most fascinating on the entire internet. I do think it helps that I watch what I watch, however, although I look at comments on every video.
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>>94152
Quit being a retard, anon. You can't save the board by being a nigger who mindlessly complains about "muh newfag" "muh reddit" and does jack and shit to actually improve the board quality by making good posts; you lot are the type to just make one-liner posts that are not much better than what the cuckchanners you proclaim to hate make. I'm just tired of going on /v/ or /b/ and the only posts I see are "go back to reddit/cuckchan" and "fuck off", no discussion, no quality OC, no fun allowed. 
>>94156
>I'm pretty sure it's being intentionally sabotaged but I'm not sure who's doing it.
Yeah, I get that feeling all the damn time with all the natural and organic bots who post here. The obvious answer is the ((( usual suspects ))), since they'd benefit the most from us infighting into irrelevance.
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>>94155
You can bypass the bans on any IP you're on if you have a 4chan pass. It skips the captcha and lets you post much quicker. 

Wizchan (the highest quality image board I know of) had a thread a while ago by an ex 4chan mod. Multiple boards are the same small group of users who post non-stop. It's the 80/20 ratio we see every where and then a handful of guys who literally spend all day every day making the same threads and replying to everything. I can't find the post now but it was an interesting insight into how 4chan operates. It's not as organic as Hiro wants you to think it is or it's severely autistic.
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>>94157
I've said similar stuff for years. If you're into hacking devices for home brew purposes then you can't find better places than Reddit. Their wikis are really well maintained. I started using discord recently to ask questions and it sucks it's all full of fags but you have to compromise to get anything decent any more.

My problem is I'm naturally abrasive so I don't tolerate shit very well. Good at getting banned from places because I'm an old cranky man and I'm not going to put up with some retard kid acting retarded. Like Magic players on youtube spending 4 figures on cards so they can make youtube videos with 300 views really gets my goat. I've become the old cranky tech guy.

>>94158
Glowies wouldn't need to shit up the place. There's enough idiots on 8ch any way. Do people forget 8ch bled users because /a/ made the servers so bad? People left on mass long before it died. Quality users went to other places and then 8ch killed what was left so only the worst of the worst went to the webring.
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>>94159
Don't forget how easy it is for people to lie on imageboards. I would honestly be skeptical of anyone who claims to be a "4chan mod", even if they provide "screenshots" (faked, either made entirely from scratch or from /j/ and mod panel leaks in the past). I theorize that most screencaps of "insightful/deep" posts you see at times are just screenshotted by the writers themselves, and once they're circulated they all of a sudden become more valuable for some reason than if you had seen the post by itself in a thread normally.
I don't doubt you though. I still believe Moot's metric of tens of millions of users a year, but of course only a fraction of those use the boards consistently. On 4chan/g/, you'll have a few thousand regular posters, a few tens of thousands of people who just look at the site everyday, and over the span of a year a few hundreds of thousands to millions of people that visit it on-and-off.
>Wizchan
Why would you use such a dreadful place? I know its nice to be around similar kinds of people, but its really not healthy to be in such communities. They make you complacent, more depressed, and fearful of expressing yourself. No one on there wants to see anyone else succeed. Its why Hotwheels was disowned by the site after he had left and achieved the sex. Is that the kind of place you want to be in? There are lots of other interesting places to post if you're a NEET.
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>>94161
Moot confirmed less than 1% of users post.

>Why would you go to wizchan
>Muh cripple kike
Try reading the place. /hob/ and /games/ are excellent boards by any measure. You don't have to be a virgin faggot to take part in those threads. Don't ask and don't tell and you can get by just fine.
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>>94163
>Don't ask and don't tell and you can get by just fine.
I'd rather not hold my tongue to use those places simply out of principle. I would have absolutely no reason whatsoever to talk about my relationships and could get away with using those boards for years without any problems if I wanted to, but the simple fact that I can't express myself is off-putting to me. They wouldn't like me in real life anyways, so why interact with them? I've left other imageboards because of this as well, keep in mind.
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>>94160
>Do people forget 8ch bled users because /a/ made the servers so bad? 
Yeah, I remember when they made fucking Hoihoi and it actively slowed everything down. 
>so only the worst of the worst went to the webring.
I take mild offense at that, but from my limited understanding, there were plenty of decent-quality users who came over from 8chan onto the webring. After Julay got fucked, it all went tumbling down.
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>>94160
>>94166
What did /a/ do? What's Hoihoi?
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>>94165
How does fucking come into discussing 2D platformers or Old school runescape? Do you have to tell everyone you meet you've had sex?

>>94167
Hoihoi is /a/'s bot that scans posts to check for grammar problems or banned words and deletes/bans on sight. The dumb fucks set it to constantly scan the board and refresh every page on the board multiple times a minute. They DDOSed the 8ch servers and didn't discover it until they set up their webring page and saw it do the same to themselves.

>>94166
Julay was nothing but IBS thread users at that point. /cow/ got replaced by Kiwi farms and everyone wanting lolcows left them to their cytube circle jerk.
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>>94168
In my defense I didn't go to /cow/ at all, because it was an annoying little autism hotspot; I stayed for the refugee boards that were there plus the ABDL/political board shitposting
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>>94168
>Hoihoi is /a/'s bot that scans posts to check for grammar problems or banned words and deletes/bans on sight. The dumb fucks set it to constantly scan the board and refresh every page on the board multiple times a minute. They DDOSed the 8ch servers and didn't discover it until they set up their webring page and saw it do the same to themselves.
That's what I thought. It sounded familiar. Thanks for answering.
>How does fucking come into discussing 2D platformers or Old school runescape? Do you have to tell everyone you meet you've had sex?
It doesn't, hence me saying that I could use the boards for years without problem if I wanted to because there's absolutely no reason to talk about it. Its the fact that people there are so viciously against people expressing themselves that I don't want to use it. I think people on /a/ and /v/ are annoying as fuck for yelling about "3DPD" too. I'm not going to hold my tongue out of fear for being called a normalfag/newfag/boogeyman anymore. I am still courteous, of course. I don't bring up shit to boast about myself or anything like that.
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I'm so pissed off I have to be subjected to this whores rancid cunt every time I open the board.
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>>94169
That's what I mean about the dregs. /cow/ became downstream from kiwifarms. Which is also shit but it's shit with content worth reading once in a while not just shit shit. 

>>94170
Well you're a fag so who cares? You're also annoying.
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>>94171
Yes, it's a pity.
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>>94172
>who cares?
You apparently.
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>>94173
Anon you're not that smart are you? Look at my screencap.
I never seen that girl naked in who knows how long because I hid the picture of her.
I knew about that feature for months now, how didnt you?

>>94132
You may be right but I can't go back to cuckchan, it left a bad taste in my mouth when I left, left an even worse taste when I returned for just a single thread and then an archive, seen a screencap of their /v/ compared to 8/v/ and was filled with nothing but dread and disgust.
People call me a redditor, normalfag and cuckchanner but they are in a bubble and don't know what real >redditor, normalfag and cuckchanner looks like.

>>94146
>these places are filled with never ending drama and nasty motherfuckers who scream REDDIT and NEWFAG and CUCKCHANNER at everything they don't like.
Honestly I couldn't have said it better myself.
The kinds of people who say that shit I assume are the remnants of /r9k/ and are thus, the outcasts, weirdos and NEETs in society so I don't blame them, they're all socially retarded manchildren in some form or another.

I even got called a normalfag on /v/ for being attracted to women...
What in the fuck was that man thinking? honestly hes probably just really damn ugly
I mean, its perfectly fine to be biologically attracted to and want to breed with the opposite gender thats our biological purpose, but being insulted like that for being straight? What has the webring come to?
>>94175
I'm using the onion and have javascript disabled I can't use those features.
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>>94170
>muh 3dpd
nobody wants to hear about your literally inhuman shit taste
>>94175
>using javascript
>identityfagging
Fuck off to funnyjunk
>People call me a redditor, normalfag and cuckchanner but they are in a bubble and don't know what real >redditor, normalfag and cuckchanner looks like.
It's you. You'll fit in great, go back there
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>>94175
Shut in weebs dominate the webring. They get angry at you for saying anime is unhealthy and you should build a life in the real world. They have created their own little pocket of degenerate safe spaces that ban you for suggesting being a pedophiles a bad thing and you shouldn't live your life dedicated to foreign cartoons.
>>94180
this except the being banned part
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>>94180
>normalfaggot right winger zoomers in their HS dark phase dominate the webring. They get angry at you for saying left wingers are no worse than right wingers and that centrism and or apathy is healthier and tolerance is a way to be healthy in the real world. They have created their own little pocket of degenerate safe places that ban you  for suggesting that having a liberal mindset is a good thing and you shouldn't live your life dedicated to open minded wisdom. 
>>94182
If only it were true.
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>>94186
>normalfaggot instead of normalfag
3edgy5me
>>94186
This. Quite the lack of true Scotmen!
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I havent used zzz for like a year now. It just isnt fun. You cant discuss the game you want to discuss because you have to make a general. Well even if you do make one it will still probably get deleted. Look at the /v/ catalog, i dont see a single good thread. No fun. Its all so sterile and boring.
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>/cow/pedos still seething about loli
>>94159
>You can bypass the bans on any IP you're on if you have a 4chan pass.
<then you get banned with the pass
<now the pass is banned and useless
<no refunds
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>>94132
fullderp hands typed this post
>>94155
I think you're here because you're a kike or a white person who has had kikes brainwash you into hating your own race, that's what.
>>94132
I actually agree. I've been using 4chan now for the past like 1-2 years. The webring is just too fucking garbage. No fun allowed anywhere here. Yeah 4chan is garbage aswell but there is /vm/ and /vg/. And shitposting threads and whatnot. You can actually have fun posting on there. I use /vm/ daily. I use /tv/ to shitpost. /v/ is horrid so i just avoid that. Theres too many normalfags using 4chan now but where else are you going to have fun? On here? Nope. Id say /vm/ is the only good 4chan board. But still. The other boards are better than their webring alternatives. Its garbage but you can actually enjoy posting there.
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>>94132
>webring is because it was full of obnoxious faggots
>went back to cuckchan
the irony is so big this must be a joke post
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>>94198
>ZOMG SHITPOSTANG XDDDD
go back and stay there
>>94198
>You can actually have fun posting on there
Fuck off 4cuck we hate fun here.
>>94198
Does 4chan captcha show up for every post for you, or every 5th post or so?
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>>94188
>Scotsmen!
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>>94150
>stay and help us out, to elevate the webring to a golden era
It's not like I have any power. The best I could do is make my own imageboard and run it differently, and hope that it catches on.

There's 4 things I would do:
- Moderation whose primary target is people who are making the imageboard less fun to be in: people who constantly attack other people for not wearing the correct suit and tie or act like crabs when other people try to make OC or do things, and generally just try to annoy other people.
- Try to make some kind of official posting guideline, for example how to reply to bait (there is a correct way), encouraging people to not take things seriously, and discouraging people from being picky about OC.
- Be more lax about board creation, currently if you want to try making a board and see how it turns out you'll have to go to 8moe which isn't part of the webring.
- Experimental technical differences that breath some new life to imageboards and hopefully inspires people to be creative. For example what if you could put images into the middle of text instead of just the beginning? What if you had a board where you can only post images and reply to people, but no text (oekaki enabled of course)? What would it look like if you had a board that requires you to use an account? What about a board with a weekly theme, like a vampire week where everyone posts like they are vampires or in a world where vampires exist? What if you could add "stamps" (little images) into the middle of other people's posts, or point a reply link into a specific sentence? What if people could attach polls into posts? I have so many of these ideas that I can't count them all.

I'd also want to centralize learning materials for creating things. For example photoshopping/art tutorials and program/tool lists, documented sample projects for getting into gamedev, etc.
And also there should be a list of all those AI neural network websites that generate images/videos.
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>>94132
>every complaint is the reason why the webring is great
If you have "fun" on cuckchan you're the reason why we left all those years ago and we don't want you here, go back and stay there newfaggot
>>94150
kys cuck
>>94158
>You can't save the board by being a nigger who mindlessly complains about "muh newfag" "muh reddit"
yes you can you stupid newnigger, go back to cuckchan and stay there
>>94223
fuck off newfaggot
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>>94223
>The best I could do is make my own imageboard and run it differently
<here's how I would mod it: the same exact subjective way everyone else does theirs
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>>94179
>Using the internet
>While not having javascript enabled
Anon what the fuck? Why?
Might as well disable HTML and CSS too while you're at it and browse exclusively with your imagination.
Either that or use inspect element to delete it from the page like how I edited your post in my screencap

>>94180
>Shut in weebs dominate the webring.
in that case I understand where they're coming from.
I'm also a shut in weeb, my mom was even worried about me being a potential school shooter a few days ago.
But the thing is I've been outside long enough to how the world works and I'm not emotionally retarded.
And heavens forbid I still have a sexual attraction to 3D women! 
OOOOH NOOOO HOW COULD I!?!?

>>94199
Theres obnoxious faggots everywhere on the internet, they're inescapable.
The only place where I don't think there were any was on the early days of 8ch during the 1st exodus, people were nervous, generally chill and couldn't really afford to be faggy fucking gatekeepers because no one had an excuse to, everybody was really chill and laid back overall I loved it there!
Ironically 8ch is what caused to to quit using funnyjunk in the first place, havent used the site since january 2015
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disabling javascript is like number 1 privacy tip. It prevents browser fingerprinting and such.
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>>94238
there has to be more efficient ways to secure your privacy.
Well, you can buy a new pc every day as well. For some people that might be more efficient.
>>94237
>Anon what the fuck? Why?
Security autism. JS is one of the main vectors for client-side malware, so those who are paranoid about that just disable it.That's why Tor, for example, disables JS automatically. 
>shut-in weeb
I'm definitely a shut-in NEET, and I've got some inkling of how the world works, enough to want as little to do with it as possible. By God, I just want a comfy farmstead with my waifu and kids and animals, but between nightmarish prices,  no real job opportunities in my area (and no job experience on my part either), and the spiritual fog from COVID that presses ever downward, it's fucking shit. But enough of me being a whiny faggot, I'll try to climb upwards and keep going.
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>>94191
>Look at the /v/ catalog, i dont see a single good thread. 
>No fun. 
>Its all so sterile and boring.
All by design
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>>94223
Where's the screencap of the guy saying "What we need is more image boards!" when every image board outside of 4chan has almost no users and new boards only divide those people thinner and thinner? 

>>94241
No woman wants a faggot weeb. They're a dime a dozen and even if they were desirable Reddit has so many of them you have a better chance of getting the top prize on a gacha spin than you do getting a woman. You make opportunities for yourself by grinding away until finally you find an opening. There are job opportunities in your area if you go out looking for them. Farm land is expensive and farming isn't sustainable as a living any more unless you want to shower in rain water and shit in a hole.
>>94241
Tor doesn't even disable javascript by default
>>94191
Anon you realizes theres like only 100 dudes on /v/ right?
It's going to be slow there thats a no brainer.
Go to 8moe or dare I say cuckchan if you want more activity.

>>94245
I wish anons would lighten up and abandon their MUST DEFEND SEKRIT CLUB mentality.
They suck the fun out of everything that even slightly bothers them.
BIG
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Someone create a meta thread on this bord. I'm not enabling ((( javascript ))) just to be able to solve a craptcha
>94237
JavaScript watches you to the point that you can see the curser you fag. but you're responding to dog-fag so you're obviously mental
/v/ for virgin?
btw op pic is anally virgin
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>>94390
uh, based?
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>>94473
Yah
>>94374
BELLE
>>94390
Lies. She has poops go through her butthole every day.
too many simps itt
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>>94700
>nigger vernacular again
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>>94728
>nigger
Niggers invent nothing on their own. The term dates back to early 20th century. When it became popularized with MGTOW, feminist cunts tried to shut it down. When that didn't work, PR kikes decided to ((( embrace and extend ))) the term to appropriate it away from ebil white nazis.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/style/simp-history-slang.html
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>>94738
Simp doesn't sow up in music other than rap pretty sure. Caring that, for example meme was older than reddit or 4chan and from some guy in Africa doesn't matter to me either. It's still the abhorrent USA's gen x and y that made it popular. 

It's dumb either way though, simpleton for being a white knight? I miss 'white knight' as the insult but niggers can't be bothered to type out as much as they used to. No one knows how to type anymore, that's one reason why words like cuck/simp/dial8/seethe/yikes/etc get spammed. 

>mgtow are Nazis

What you're really saying is only cringe white cis males turn women off when they're being mean. People speaking ebonics just get a free pass because women are turned on by their inherently more violent and or aggressive nature.
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>>94132
>jewgle captcha
>unfair range bans (that you can't get out of without using the same IP over and over per pass)
>maximum-over-spam
>censorship to the point of redditor status 
>going back
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>>94223
>crabs
So was wizchan your first imageboard, faggot? They hate one another and call one another, very retardedly, crabs. It's dead for a reason.
>ban anyone not being fun
>don't be picky about OC
That's gatekeeping you know. You have to pick one, censor or don't censor. People are going to be mad at one another either way. People hate people. If people were going to be nice to the point of getting banned they'd be on, you know, reddit, wherein you still get bullied but only if a feminist would be okay with it. 
>segregation via board creation
That can't create communities if it merely divides the small population more than it needed to be divided. 
>>94227
The word subjective is another one of those forced words but I concur.  To save 8chan 4chan needs to die, but oh wait, too late. They COULD have driven away the normalfaggots with a huge cp bomb there and then it'd have had  a much smaller userbase, then got taken down due to such CP (happened anyway for no legal reason faggots) then make another. These new sites should be that third try but 4chan is there to this day. That and reddit needed to die to save voat.co. 

You could even have saved 4chan by killing the moderation a long time ago. The CP spamming starts there and they could have just taken the site down over and over so it could remain an infamous, otherwise it's about the same as reddit. Reddit used to have a huge hebe sub by the by. Most of it's traffic went there. It's funny how things change. 

Why would anyone want to post in a censored site without having their real ID attached to the posts? Why go down that road? To protect Moot when he could have just gave it up, the power? He had to give it up anyway. Reddit upon deleting hebe should have had it's admins assassinated, literally. Moot banning loli, same thing.
>>94739
Project harder. Not all MGTOW are white or even male for that matter (there's a female branch called "honey badgers"). 
Woke mafia cunts conflate any male advocacy movement under the umbrella term they invented called, "manosphere" which they classify as an extremist hate group, so basically nazis. Not gonna spoon feed you anymore. Do you own research.
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>>94745
What you want is a Tor only IB. Too bad feds got ahead of that curve and the few that exists are all compromised honeypots.
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>>94749
>>94745
How are the I2Pchans these days? I haven't looked in like three years
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>>94747
>woke
Ugh. Ya can't type out enlightened? 

Surely you don't think beautiful Italian mobsters were celibate? How can they be manosphere if they have families and such? 

And the manosphere is just some faggotshit women spew, like incel is spewed forth for no reason. Now days literally the word pedo is starting to be spammed just because it sounds insulting. Call /r/askwomen a womanosphere and you'd get banned rather than bantered with. Women just can't ball bust, they get hysterical. What hysterical male in the mafia hates men? Is the mafia all women now, or is it the transsexuals again? 

But research? On that shit? I don't hate myself enough to annoy myself with all that bullshit. I just detect the bullshit words, look up their definition, then make judgments based on my experiences with humans (mostly online ones). But my point is people that go down dramatic rabbit holes are shooting themselves in the foot. You're giving people what they want, a voice, but they'll censor yours if you go to such places guilty of....toxic femininity. What would be the point? To watch some pathetic circle jerk, ever devolving as they don't let people question their beliefs?  I've been to reddit, obviously, so I've had my fill of that gay shit. I'm not about to lurk twitter or tumblr or wherever else. 

Hating violence is like hating a cop husband. Women hating on a police force is some faggy shit. Men are all the violent criminals but also the police force, mafia or otherwise. Brotherhoods used to exist for a reason. The only thing sisterhoods do is up the age of consent and ban fun for safety in general, M.A.D. group and such. It's called being a coward, the coward sex. It's both good and bad but women need to remember that males are the hunter sex, we have better spacial awareness for that reason along with being larger and more muscular. People are delusional to bite the hand that feeds it, and men do do most of the work to this day. Young men that break all the laws take care of them. But did they break them BEFORE feminism? Aka, toxic femininity. So many double standards, they just want their cake and to eat it too. I ironically hate pigs and gangsters but at least the Mafia respected freedom of commerce in a way some cowardly female cannot. 

Most of what made 4chan what it used to be were young cis white males. I've always considered people that are not young cis white males to be invaders of imageboards for that reason. We used to do polls you know. I'm projecting for a reason in other words.  Yeah, that faggot Hiro doesn't count. He made no fun and interesting movement that I'm aware of and was booted off his own site by his moderation for unjust range bans, now 4chan does the same thing but without good mods. Fucking richfaggot, that Nip should go away and stop micromanaging things across the sea like some, well, kike.  
>>94749
Yeah, or something like Zeronet. 
>>94752
I stopped caring after zeronet  disappointed me with it failing to get people to use peer to peer anonymous software. I never saw a i2p chan myself. I'm not very motivated to try hard to get to a dead site as the more time it'd take the more dead it'd be even if it's impossible to take down like zeronet's stuff. Zero forces the cp onto your computer but if it worked you're anonymous anyway, not that it even does. I doubt it works. The only reason people post cp is so the FBI can entrap people for some feathers in their hats I'm sure. Pedos are too rare to even be a real issue, if they were real pedos they'd have in real life rings rather than download from police posted shit that they seized after finding such in real life offline rings. That's how I feel about it, but if only it weren't true but everyone calls them honeypots so it probably is true. Even if not everyone is going to think that and then hop right back onto the censored to shit sites or overly high in traffic/spam ones, something in between being even worse. 

I remember fed posters on silkroad demanding, DEMANDING that the armory be taken down. I've been watching the Internet die a while now. Memories like that make me not bother searching for whatever replaces such anarchy. Was there a silk road three? I doubt it. There won't be second 8chan and it wasn't anywhere near as 'spicy' with law breaking, that's a slippery slope if I ever saw one. Are the emulator sites gone now? I bet the last thing emulator/rom sites will be on the dark net(s) before they finally do away with copyright infringement. Even reddit didn't get rid of it yet so it'll be the last. But yeah, I'm typing too much and keep deleting this but are too bored to not keep typing out long replies so....

blah blah blah

/bored
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>>94180
Degeneracy is a good thing, a great thing even. Imageboards are not for "healthy" people.
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>Degeneracy is a good thing, a great thing even. 

To be a Goblin (so called "european") is quite enought
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>>94745
>CP spamming
Yes yes Mr. Johnson, the spam will surely rid imageboards of those dang dirty normalfags and will usher in an age of amazing posts, I just know it.

>Gatekeeping
Retarded term perpetuated by idiotic, unpleasant people. 
By the way, what's even left here to "gatekeep", huh? NIGGER being screamed for the millionth time, whining in every thread, over 9000 generals, and abusive jannies are surely worth protecting, right?
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>>94773
goblin tomboy supremacy is inevitable
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>>94237
>funnyjunk user
>>94779
>I-It's over
>N-nobody cares
Then why are they still constantly subverting existing IBs and trying to kill any new ones before they even have a chance of building a little community?
Yeah, we know why.
>>94747
Most MGTOW are niggers and spics. White men moved the fuck on as soon as they realized how many of the people broadcasting that meme are dead beat nigger 'fathers' with an addiction to video games and a history of beating women. 

There's no such thing as MGTOW for women. Multiple women have tried to monopolize it for cash. Including the money badgers and Avoiceformen.
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>>94815
So any kind of organized male advocacy is pozz'd with niggers and gay and stupid, yet there are legions of such organizations for women in the educational, workplace and political arena and we're all supposed to think that's based and normal?
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>>94819
Why are you so retarded you think everything is black and white? MUH BASED! MUH CRINGE!

Men's rights is all full of abusive fuckwads and faggots grifting. The women's groups are so dominant anything that could effectively help men gets shut down rapidly and crushed as soon as it gets on their radar. Most of the women's advocacy stuff is also one big grift full of abusive cunts the same way the men's stuff is. The female side has the benefit of muh women so they can get more power and run other grifters out of town.

t. ex MRA/MGTOW
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>>94821
>The women's groups are so dominant anything that could effectively help men gets shut down rapidly and crushed as soon as it gets on their radar. Most of the women's advocacy stuff is also one big grift full of abusive cunts the same way the men's stuff is. The female side has the benefit of muh women so they can get more power and run other grifters out of town.
It's all running at the level of useful idiots/midwits anyway. Advocacy, higher learning grants, these union style organizations composed of nothing but managers that produce no products etc. are just welfare for the middle class. By paying for a stable system of largely inert corrupt academia/charity/lobbyist positions you create a self sustained group that will start shit randomly and try to ingratiate itself anywhere that: you can neuter actual grassroots movements by subsuming them into, can drown out discussion over actual issues when you need to throw someone under the bus, can serve as cover for the usual money laundering/bribery/etc. shit.
>>94743
4chan hasn't used google captcha for a long time now.

Range bans are a problem though, but I think it's inevitable considering the nature of the website. Since you don't require an account to post, it's far too easy to spam endlessly with dynamic IP or VPNs or whatever, what other solution is there than to ban them? I think small imageboards can only get away with them because they're too small for large scale spammers to care about.

>>94745
Crab is a term commonly used in the creative sections of 4chan, it refers to crab mentality or crab bucket effect and is used against people who bitch and act unnecessarily hostile/obnoxious/unhelpful when other people create things or try to learn something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
Creation of new things (whether OC or projects) is the most valuable thing to me, so getting rid of crabs would be high on the list of priorities. That said, I don't think the webring has a very big problem with this, 4chan is far more hostile towards creativity and productivity.

>That's gatekeeping you know
Well duh. If you don't gatekeep at all you get a cesspit of shit. The point is to gatekeep retards who make the website less fun to be in instead of gatekeeping some arbitrary concepts like "low quality" threads or every word that is used in another website. I want an imageboard where people who have a generally positive and creative mindset can feel free to post anything they want to, while people who have a hostile and negative mindset have to watch their step. Currently the situation is almost completely the opposite of that.

>can't create communities if it merely divides the small population more than it needed to be divided
That's what the webring does by creating the same boards in every website. I want to create new kinds of boards and allow new kinds of boards to be created, and give a place to people who currently don't have a place in the webring. I only checked this board once or twice a day for like 4 days and already saw blacked porn twice. Telling everyone to congregate on /b/ is not the answer.

I'd still require you to ask for a board instead of creating it freely, but the only rule would be that the board has to be different from any other board currently in the webring and not hostile by nature.
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>>95012
>I'd still require you to ask for a board instead of creating it freely, but the only rule would be that the board has to be different from any other board currently in the webring and not hostile by nature.
But the reason people want to make boards is that the board doesn't actually exist and the name is being camped by scum. Here's an example: there is no /u/ on the internet
>.moe is completely dead other than the occasional dump of 3dpd
>smug is entirely composed of posts about futa or het
Note that anything that's not an imageboard is (even more) of a tranny filled shithole. There is no space for english language discussion of yuri outside of /b/ or /jp/ anywhere on the internet until someone hosts their own.

>while people who have a hostile and negative mindset have to watch their step
You're completely fucking retarded if you think this is vaguely possible. The only people you can oppress are legitimate users. Hostile actors are immune to all responses that don't impact every possible class of user indiscriminately.
>Crab is a term commonly used in the creative sections of 4chan, it refers to crab mentality or crab bucket effect and is used against people who bitch and act unnecessarily hostile/obnoxious/unhelpful when other people create things or try to learn something
Crab is a term used by retards who can't arrive at a single conclusion from first principles and base their entire identity, sense of value, and understanding of the world on social pretense i.e. the kind of scum that don't belong on imageboards
No matter how shitty your work, your workflow, your opinions, your art philosophy, or your deep fried nigger soul really are, you can simply work in the face of (even entirely valid and correct) criticism.
>>95013
I'd allow a "duplicate" board if you could justify why it's not the same as another board on the webring except with faggot #123154 in charge as opposed to faggot #25664. I'd probably also tell you to give it a different board name since I'm tired of people thinking of small imageboards as alternatives to 4chan as opposed to individual imageboards with their own culture and way of doing things.

>The only people you can oppress are legitimate users
The people who make the site less fun to be in are not users that I want period. I specifically want to cull the section of imageboard users who are bitter faggots and take out their bitterness at other people every day while giving shills the perfect opportunity to blend in and make everything worse. If you're not constantly in the mindset of attacking everyone around you and looking for enemies behind every post, you'd have nothing to worry about. I want people to fill their heads with interesting and creative and fun things instead of never ending war against their perceived enemies and competing who can make the most obnoxious posts for the most (You)s, if you can't do it then you can stay in other imageboards where people spend all their days bitching at each other and posting images that are tailored to aggravate people.

>crabs
There's a difference between criticizing something or calling out shit for what it is or discussing the pros and cons of things, and being unnecessarily hostile and calling everyone stupid retards for not using/doing your preferred things. As an example /agdg/ derails into pointless language and game engine wars all the time where people bark at each other's tool choices. Anyone can jump in and start shitting the thread up with that kind of cancer and attacking people who are actually working on and discussing games, even if they've never touched any of those tools themselves.
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>The people who make the site less fun to be in are not users that I want period. I specifically want to cull the section of imageboard users who are bitter faggots and take out their bitterness at other people every day while giving shills the perfect opportunity to blend in and make everything worse.
You can't do this, nigger. I'm not saying you shouldn't. You can't. It is impossible. You cannot prevent people from posting what they want without preventing people (in general) from posting what they want.
>If you're not constantly in the mindset of attacking everyone around you and looking for enemies behind every post, you'd have nothing to worry about.
It's the opposite. If mods want to nig around then it dissuades anyone who's not looking for metadrama. Mod faggotry is always metadrama, no matter what. If I want to have a shitty metadrama argument or shit up a site or whatever then I can post on any fucking board under the sun, and I don't give a shit if my post gets deleted because it's as sincere a response as any reply would be. If I make an actually good post I'm not going to put it on a site where I expect some shitbird to randomly delete it, because the problem is not having other people reply to it "the wrong way" or whatever faggotry you've got spinning in your mind, but having one person or more who'll respond to it sincerely. No amount of shitposts can prevent that. A nigger randomly deleting posts easily can.
<b-but I won't delete good posts!
Yes you will. You aren't an arbiter of quality. The simple fact is that there will be jokes that you're not in on and if you police a board outside of a semi-mechanical heuristic (e.g. unilaterally deleting images of 3dpd children without concern for context or purpose) then the board will quickly become limited to just your creative output i.e. complete trash. One nigger's opinion does not a lively board make.
>I want people to fill their heads with interesting and creative and fun things instead of never ending war against their perceived enemies and competing who can make the most obnoxious posts for the most (You)s
That's not up to you though. You can encourage people to stick around by making primary content i.e. by posting as a user yourself. You can't discourage shit posts. A person has no attachment to posts they make that are intentionally shitty. They won't be discouraged by you deleting those posts. Why would they? They've gotten a response from at least one nigger, that's literally better than making the same shitty post anywhere else.
>if you can't do it then you can stay in other imageboards where people spend all their days bitching at each other and posting images that are tailored to aggravate people
I can also cum to your imageboard and do it there. You can't stop me.
<I'll force you to connect through the clearnet and post your full name and address and social security number and use a secure tripcode
I mean sure, but it's not really an imageboard in any meaningful sense then is it?

>There's a difference between criticizing something or calling out shit for what it is or discussing the pros and cons of things, and being unnecessarily hostile and calling everyone stupid retards for not using/doing your preferred things.
No there isn't.
Firstly, you can't tell the difference. Unless you consider yourself a divine authority on every subject, you're in no position to judge what is a reasonable and an unreasonable criticism.
Secondly, people are dumb as shit. Some esl-kun might have a sub-80 IQ and be unable to meaningfully articulate their position but that doesn't mean that they aren't attempting to give a measured response. Someone being wrong doesn't mean they're insincere. The entire advantage of imageboards is that you can post about topics you have the barest glimpse of an understanding of and so the dialogue isn't limited to conventional wisdom. Misunderstanding a conversation and making a shitty point costs nothing and can be corrected at any time, unless some mod spergs out and starts censoring users - there's no correlation between the (low) quality of a specific post and the overall quality of posts a user can or will make.
Finally, there is no difference because there is no such thing as the later. Nobody acknowledges or responds to empty shitposts who doesn't want to. You aren't obligated to reply to troll posts, and nobody who does so is doing so in lieu of making the interesting posts that they want to make.
Nobody has ever prevented a conversation by bitching on the sidelines.
>Anyone can jump in and start shitting the thread up with that kind of cancer and attacking people who are actually working on and discussing games
You need to fucking understand, that this covers all subjects and costs the person doing so nothing and the persons skimming over the post nothing. You cannot police it, you are literally throwing away your own time to no benefit. If anyone thinks that something that was deleted was legitimate, you're on a short road to locking yourself out of seeing anything creative or useful that person would have ever said.
Fucking with the mods is a huge part of the appeal of metadrama, it is the game in itself. If you don't like the mods (and you shouldn't ever, essentially) then simply making a post that will be deleted, no matter how low effort a copypaste it is, is fun in itself. Few things are as funny as watching someone manually delete the same post over a hundred times, and few things so clearly indicate the butthurt that an actual troll would be farming for.
>>95019
>You cannot prevent people from posting what they want without preventing people (in general) from posting what they want.
If you shill and attack people and post things that are designed to aggravate everyone, then you don't belong there, you're not the part of the "people in general" that I want to host. This also isn't black and white, there's a scale to it and warnings (as opposed to bans) can be used to guide people into the correct path. A warning also doesn't have to be personal, you can post in a thread with a capcode and tell people to quit it if they're getting too aggressive.

If you don't want moderators then you don't belong there either. You have plenty of imageboards to choose from where moderators do next to nothing.

>jokes that you're not in on
>difference between criticizing etc... you can't tell the difference
>Some esl-kun might have a sub-80 IQ and be unable to meaningfully articulate their position
>Someone being wrong
>there's no correlation between the (low) quality of a specific post and the overall quality of posts a user can or will make
The webring is the one that polices "quality", the whole point is that I'm not targeting that at all. I'm targeting people who act hostile towards other people, not the quality or subject of the post. In other words I'm targeting intent, not content, and if the intent is to aggravate some section of the userbase or aggressively attack people then it does not belong. If you want to post it then you can enter literally any other imageboard and do it there. If you can't type a criticism without inadvertently calling the other person a talentless retard who's doing everything wrong and should kill himself, then you need to fuck off and learn to speak English before coming back. Any legitimate post can be worded in a way that's seeking productive discussion instead of hostile war with some group of users.

>You aren't obligated to reply to troll posts
There will always be people who reply to bait and derail threads because of it, and anyone who wants to read the thread/board will inevitably end up looking at it, possibly reading through it while looking for good posts.
>and nobody who does so is doing so in lieu of making the interesting posts that they want to make
>Nobody has ever prevented a conversation by bitching on the sidelines
If you spend all day looking at pointless arguments and/or getting baited into them, it's going to erode your own mindset. You're going to start looking for similar enemies everywhere and acting defensive and seeing everything through a dark lens and generally feeling bitter and annoyed. All of that is destructive towards your ability to just have fun and feel good about your day and post positively.

>throwing away your own time to no benefit
Having a place where I can feel feelings besides annoyed would be a big benefit. We spend all day browsing imageboards anyway so I'm not sure what time you're talking about.

>Fucking with the mods
If you think posting a retarded thread that gets you banned and the thread deleted within 10 seconds is fun then go ahead I guess. I have the means to stream new threads to the corner of my screen in real time so the chances that someone sees it while I'm awake is very low. This whole argument is pointless since I have 0 interest in running a nonmoderated imageboard, there are none anywhere else in the webring either.
>manually delete
Contrary to what imageboard developers may make you think about the capabilities of web technology, it's possible to only delete posts that match certain conditions, such as timeframe or complex text matches or images etc. It's also possible to make queries in a similar way, for example splatting every post from a specific timeframe that also contains an image onto your screen. It would take 2 minutes to clear out a spam attack.
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>>95019
This whole "us versus them" mentality is the reason boards go to shit. If you default thinking mods exist solely to ruin your day instead of trying to curb shit from reaching legitimate users, you are part of the problem. Your approach is no different than a pinko faggot kicking a trash can and saying "fuck the system, I'm so rebellious" when all they're doing is inconveniencing the people that live in that neighbourhood and the trash collectors, meanwhile, the actual enemy, the kikes, clap and cheer from the sidelines. You are advocating adding fuel to a fire in order to stop the fire, yeah no way that could go wrong.
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>>95012
>4chan is far more hostile towards creativity and productivity.
>I want an imageboard where people who have a generally positive and creative mindset can feel free to post anything they want to, while people who have a hostile and negative mindset have to watch their step. Currently the situation is almost completely the opposite of that.
Feds, kikes and other glowniggers learned well how dangerous a truly popular site like 8chan can become. 4chan became a victim of its success, m00t became subverted into a cunt slave of a commie feminist whore and turned over control to her clique, then gaymergate, then exodus.
At it's peak, 8chan was more entertaining and informative than most shit on netflix or cable or any social media platform. People literally become addicted and happily spent every free moment lurking and shitposting 8chan.
This was disastrous and dangerous in two main ways: people who being herded away from the kosher offerings of talmudvision and, secondly, were exposed to wrongthink and allowed to speak freely. Aside from imkamfy and dysnomia's faggotry, free speech was mostly tolerated.
If you'll notice, none of that exists anymore. Every IB has been mostly subverted from the inside by literally antifa trannyjannies and those that aren't get spammed and sabotaged by bots and professional trolls in other ways. The goal: make IBs as boring, unentertaining and uncreative as possible. Above all else, squelch and destroy any genuine discussion about any spicy political or social topics whatsoever. And don't think that it's just le five eyes doing it. Russia, China, Iran, Israel, Latin America and other places are all involved, because if the cattle are wandering away from their tightly controlled honeypots, it leads to bad outcomes (from their point of view).
TL;DR all IBs have been and are currently being actively subverted 24/7 by feds and glowies since the Christchurch attack, and even well before. They are not going away.
>>95019
10/10
>>95020
>that I want to host
No one gives a fuck what you want to host. No one asked you to do anyone any favors. If you put up a publicly accessible IB, then prepare to get shit on. I will personally go out of my way from now on to shit up your site, drain your resources (including your irreplaceable time) and force you to host objectionable views and content just to increase your obvious asspain. Die in a fire, faggot. You are the cancer that is killing /b/
>guide people into the correct path
Glow harder, newfag. you have no clue about IB culture. Go dab your oozing front hole with your USSR flag
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ZZZ/v/ is fucking dead, no fun allowed, no gamenights, no serious discussions, no anything, not even shitposting!

How do we save /v/ from the clutches of EVIL once and for all? it wasnt like this on julayworld, julay /v/ actually was fun and had posters and good gamenights and everything! did 90% of the user base go back to 4cuck once tengu deleted /v/?
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>>95032
>Every IB has been mostly subverted from the inside by literally antifa trannyjannies and those that aren't get spammed and sabotaged by bots and professional trolls in other ways. The goal: make IBs as boring, unentertaining and uncreative as possible.
I don't know how ironic you're being considering you're defending those guys later in your post like I offended your shitskin religion, but this is exactly what my intentions are based on. The goal is to get rid of all those people who are ruining imageboards by constantly starting fights and attacking people for pointless reasons and demoralizing and annoying each other, but outside of that let people post whatever they want. There's still room for friendly banter, though it's hard to define where to draw the line because shills will be #1 in line to take advantage of it.

Bots are probably the hardest to deal with, frankly I have no idea what can be done about them besides user identities or some kind of reputation tracking, which obviously aren't very good solutions. I don't necessarily think that bots are pure evil though as long as they're posting random shit, certainly they're a smaller problem than actual shills.
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>>95034
Come to /valis/, it's a spiritual successor to 8/vg/ and jula/v/ made by a few anons with actual video game discussions.

https://anon.cafe/valis/catalog.html
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>>95020
>Contrary to what imageboard developers may make you think about the capabilities of web technology, it's possible to only delete posts that match certain conditions, such as timeframe or complex text matches or images etc.
Nigger, we all know. It's not hard to get around this sort of thing. All you've done is come back around to trying to trade your seconds for my seconds. You need to understand, if I'm shitposting it means I am killing time. Murdering it dead with savage intent. Opening up the rules of the game so that there's more depth and more intricacy to shitposting isn't going to dissuade me, it's going to make it more fun.
>If you spend all day looking at pointless arguments and/or getting baited into them, it's going to erode your own mindset.
No, it won't. If you're unable to look past shit in the search for something interesting, you're fundamentally not suited for imageboards. You can trivially not reply or care about posts. If there was a post which reached through the screen and gripped your soul and forced a response, then it's a work of fucking art that has a quality all it's own.
>Having a place where I can feel feelings besides annoyed would be a big benefit.
I can guarantee you that I, and a truly staggering number of fellow shitposters would come out of the woodwork to ensure that whatever site you hosted would not be that after smelling your colossal asshurt.
It's incredible that you could make such a long post which fails to address a single point I made and furthermore proposes only claims that have already been explicitly refuted by those points.
>In other words I'm targeting intent, not content
NIGGER, YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW THE INTENT OF A POST
IT IS OPAQUE TO YOU
The mind of the other is opaque and human beings have arbitrarily limited powers of communication. Get it into your fucking head. You don't know whether a post was made in good faith or not. You don't know the causality that led to a post being the way that it is. If you interfere and shit up a thread on a metalevel, then people will respond on-topic at that level i.e. with shitty metaposts.
The fact that you can't follow a line of reasoning as simple and direct as
<You can't do this, nigger. I'm not saying you shouldn't. You can't. It is impossible. 
to even attempt to address it demonstrates to everyone here that you're either unable or unwilling to discern the intent or meaning of a post.
>>95021
>This whole "us versus them" mentality
Not the
<you don't belong there, you're not the part of the "people in general" that I want to host
<If you don't want moderators then you don't belong there either
Us vs. them mentality?

Go ahead dude. Make your shitty site. I'll collect my localhost ban and brag about it somewhere and with no captive audience abducted from elsewhere your rulecuck shithole will be as dead as the day it was stillborn.
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>>95045
>Opening up the rules of the game so that there's more depth and more intricacy to shitposting isn't going to dissuade me, it's going to make it more fun.
Well like I said, if you think getting new IPs and completing captchas just so you can essentially drop them into the void is fun then go ahead. I really don't care, I'm going to delete it in 1 click and then continue what I was doing, you'd be spending much more time effort on that pointless war than I would.

>It's incredible that you could make such a long post which fails to address a single point I made and furthermore proposes only claims that have already been explicitly refuted by those points.
Most of your arguments boil down to "I don't want an imageboard with moderators to exist", which I've already addressed: I'm not interested in an imageboard that accommodates everyone, I'm interested in an imageboard that's fun to be in. I've browsed enough comfy and obscure imageboards to know that there's plenty of people who want the same. You're free to use another imageboard if you don't like it. If your objection is that there's not enough unmoderated imageboards and I'm not using the opportunity to make one, then it's not my job to do what you want, make one yourself.

>You don't know whether a post was made in good faith or not
I don't, it doesn't matter what the intent was, what matters is what the intention appears to be, because what it appears to be is what actually has an effect on other people. If your intent is to shit the board up but you're so incompetent at shitting that you accidentally post a golden goose of interesting ideas and discussion with seemingly no hostility whatsoever, then your intent was not transferred into your post. It would be very difficult to have good intentions and then "accidentally" reach a level of hostility that would result in a direct ban as opposed to a warning.

I'm not interested in arguments about semantics so I'll just rephrase it right now: my goal is to target the apparent intent behind posts, the intent that was conveyed by the post.
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Something I'm interested in is a board implementing an r9k for images (on a nonbans board), preferably that's seeded from offsite sources as well (e.g. just 4chan to catch the majority of lazy shit). The people that post the same tired reaction image from fotm anime or shonenshit (including seagull lmao) unerringly make shitty posts and anybody who actually cares would just remake the post. The hope is that people would be encouraged to post their own crops/screenshots or to make (minor) edits of their own.
<but people could just make a script to get around the filter
If people want to post on your board so much that they're writing tools to allow them to do so then that's probably a good sign.
>>95047
>catered to my personal tastes
>fun to be in
pick one
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>>95034
There's a gamenight this friday, eden. We even invited you over, why are you mad?
>>95041
deader than F-Zero
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>>95057
Not as dead as /geimu/, Eden.
The difference being /valis/ is too obscure while nobody wants to use your board.
>>95057
>gamenight this friday
Shitty netplay game that can only host 4 people is NOT a gamenight, maybe host a better game so people will actually play and not call you out for being a huge nigger
>valis
>dead
its just obscure, its better than ZZZchan in everyway with no shitposters and no gay useless metadrama and NO EDEN
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>>95066
>gamenight is not a gamenight
host a gamenight then, eden
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>>95068
>4 fags fellating each other is a gamenight
Eden please!
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>>95070
>people playing games is gay
never change, /b/
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>>95073
Its only gay if its games i personally do not like, we didnt even get to play jedi academy this year!
Why the FUCK is /v/eddit so slow nowadays? we used to get 200 post per day but even now thats dropping down a notch.
>>95075
We're running low on videogames!
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>>95076
QUICK! buy..i mean pirate more vidya ASAP
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>>95077
>pirates are approaching from the west
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>>95073
>/v/edditors playing garbage is super based and redpilled
never change, /v/igger
>>95075
people stop being 15 and thinking that low iq shitposting is time well spent
>>95041
I wont use a glownigger owned site. You think i forgot about /k/ and the /fascist/ drama? anon.cafe got exposed as glowniggers
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>>95075
Well you should look at several posta in this thread. Its because of they delete random posts and there is no fun allowed
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>>95075
>we used to get 200 post per day
That was 3 years ago anon. Pic related.
Better times for sure but nothing lasts forever, remember that.
None of the threads on /v/ are interesting enough for me to post in and everything else i wanted to talk about I already did or other games I would want to discuss would only get shit on or me shit on too, or nobody even plays those games in the first place.
I could give you examples of some posts I made but I would get shat on and accused of being an "identityfag" on an anonymous imageboard.

>>95078
Terraria with /v/ is always a blast!
Is that your screencap?
You can improve your wall by having a pit where the pirates or the blood zombies on blood moons (they have increased jump height) right in front or to the left of your candy cane wall and fill the bottom of it with shallow lava so it doesnt delete any items dropped inside.
Then you can just stand next to it and collect loot automatically, shits cash as fuck.
Pic related. 
I made it 2 blocks thick for stylistic purposes but i'm no architect.
In fact that entire underground section is probably fucking useless when I could have just made the area where i could collect loot thinner.
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>>95088
Unfortunately I plundered the image from the internet. Pic related is from one of my worlds, I usually do something like that. It's wide enough that I can kill the ghost captain before he fucks my shit up. I'd have more motivation for building traps if there weren't so many enemies that go through ground, I have to fight myself anyway.
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>>95019
Why is it always some yuri cretin that are the most shitty posters on imageboards? Both those I've talked to anonymously and on other social media sites with identities who like yuri are ALWAYS the most mentally ill, annoying fuckers that exist, somefuckinghow. Keep your gay (literally) images to yourself.

>>95075
Because of people that can't shut the fuck up and always insist on spewing bullshit everywhere in every thread. When every thread has newfag/normal(nigger/cattle/fag/faggot/whatever new edgy suffix people are using nowadays)/nigger a hundred times its not surprising that good posters decide to leave elsewhere. ANYWHERE else. I stopped posting mid last year because I found that most threads would devolve into irrelevant arguing midway through, and the bitching threads like meta/GG/etc. never stopped.

I've spent quite a lot of time thinking about imageboards psychology-wise, and I think I grasp it reasonably well.

Most people on imageboards feel somewhat distanced from the culture of a particular board despite they themselves defining it by merely posting on said board, like I am right now. This entire thread is just a room of 40-50 dudes all trying to win the hearts and minds of one another. The "newfag" shit forces people to act more conformist than they would normally, and you end up with a culture of passive-aggressive, fearful people that don't want to ask questions, don't want to express themselves in specific ways lest they get shit on relentlessly, etc. Actual new users who'd normally bring fresh perspective and creativity with themselves end up not wanting to post/wait to post, and in the process turn themselves into every other poster. Stale.
Low intelligence morons who speak with buzzwords often feel as though boards are their own property, and as such they post in an authoritative manner. Its easy for their false assertiveness to coerce others into thinking there's a larger, invisible "culture" to a board when there isn't.

Take 4chans /a/ for example. A lot of "culture defining" screencaps from the late 2000s were crafted by annoying tripfags that no longer exist (hopefully committed suicide from the ronery threads). Most of these images went on to be adopted as board-defining and to this day I STILL manage to see them every once in a while, despite the fact they were crafted by some single attention whore trying to speak for an entire community of tens of thousands of people. I'm referring to those few "newfag guide/how to post on /a/" images. I'd bet those annoying fuckers probably spammed their own images themselves until through sheer overwhelming volume and time they got accepted as the norm.

Don't listen to the loud, annoying, falsely assertive posters. You define a board with your posts. You exist right now, as do these threads. Write something cool and make history, rather than trying to repeat it.
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>>95075
The slowness would be a okay thing if the quality would go up. Even if the board would be slower than it's now.
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>>95110
>Keep your gay (literally) images to yourself.
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>>95078
I hate this shit so much, this and goblins.
>>95012
> I want an imageboard where people who have a generally positive and creative mindset can feel free to post anything they want to, while people who have a hostile and negative mindset have to watch their step. Currently the situation is almost completely the opposite of that.
The webring is in the state it's in because the former group doesn't exist. You have 2 groups on the webring. Shit posters intentionally or just too stupid not to shit the place up and oldfags who can't move on from imageboards but hate 4chan. There's no one else here. So your idea creates... /tv/ barely moderated, can be as "creative" as you want but no one will. Creative people don't even use 4chan any more because it offers so little benefit compared to Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Why waste my artistic talent on the webring when I could post my fanart on Twitter, use it to network and possibly get a job out of it or at least someone in the company liking my fanart? Creation requires people to do it, the webring offers no incentive, it offers the total opposite when the site has a PEDOPHILE problem and a reputation of being a terrorist hub. If I can draw well I don't want my art associating with the webring do I?

>>95013
Cuckchan has a /u/. Go be a tranny with all those fags. 

>>95017
You're asking for Reddit you double nigger.

/agdg/ is made up of nerds. Nerds always fight over operating systems, languages used and engines used. It's always been that way and always will be that way. It's NORMAL for nerds to get into tech slap fights.

>>95021
A lot of mods do exist just to ruin your day. Sad pathetic losers using it as an identity and a full time 'job'. Like Mark. Some mods are good, some are shit. Depending on your personality which is which will shift.

>>95039
Your only way to improve quality is to do it yourself. If you can't get enough people to join in then your attempt fails. Making another image board no one reads isn't going to help you at all. You have to change what is here with like minded anons or make more dead boards.
>>95070
Game nights on image boards are a bad idea. Who the fuck wants to install abandonware games from image boards? Security risk out the wazoo!

>>95083
what's the fascist stuff? I know /k/ had a glowie admin and anon cafe suicided by removing it's only popular board.

>>95088
The community is hostile to any one not of their own narrow view point. It's unusable to any one not interested in visual novels or anime flavor of the month. I tried to post on /v/ and got nothing out of it so I left to discuss vidya else where.
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>>95110
This post is mostly right but also misses the point.

Weebs do the same shit on every board. They can't post without pushing anime into it. So people get sick of anime and turn on it. This drives people off when every day they join a thread and it's nothing but horny losers posting cartoon characters fucking. They move on and don't waste their time on it any more.
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>>95183
>half of the rulecucked threads are the same tired generals even in the pro-rulecuck biased image
There is literally nothing wrong with game generals.
>>95241
I will grant you the right to have a fisting contest about programming languages after you post progress on your project.
Do you know why code monkeys are so eager to become jannies on dead IBs? Because being a code monkey is literally a janitor tier profession on the scale of CS related careers.
>>95057
>deader than F-Zero
Literally more active than /gaymoo/, so...
>>95083
>I wont use a glownigger owned site. 
Then leave zzzchan right now.
>You think i forgot about /k/ and the /fascist/ drama?
I never used those boards so I've no clue the fuck you're talking about but if you seriously think individual board drama has anything to do with other boards and the site itself you're so new and retarded you shouldn't be on imageboards period.
>anon.cafe got exposed as glowniggers
Nice headcannon. It's like the one site without constant drama.
>>95241
>I know /k/ had a glowie admin and anon cafe suicided by removing it's only popular board.
/k/ is literally right there and is one of the most active boards on the webring. Did you even open the webring tab to check?
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>>95314
>It's like the one site without constant drama.
<sportschan
<drama
The only drama on sportschan is some imported drama, mostly from here (or intl). t. dramanigger
Cafe is without a doubt the most usable site on the webring though, yes. You see niggers complain about a lack of moderation but obviously the trolling and shitposting all over the board hasn't stopped any of the actual conversations of 12 post replychains of 500-2000 word essays on /christian/ and the low effort shills on /k/ are mostly drowned out by actual discussion.
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>>95314
>I never used those boards so I've no clue the fuck you're talking about
We can tell. /k/ was compromised by a fednigger BO, who then proceeded to start a fight with /fascist/ because glowniggers gonna glow. This forced anon.cafe to evict /fascist/, who sought refuge elsewhere. This incident, plus the fact that it's basically /pol/ at least since the Russia and Ukraine slapfight, makes the board not worth using for me. /fascist/ isn't much good either nowadays, since SynarchistAnon and Mongolanon got driven out by the retarded ethnoglobeniggers.
>>95318
>actual conversations of 12 post replychains of 500-2000 word essays on /christian/ 
While they are high-quality in themselves, the problem with /christian/ is that it's full of tradlarpers and spergs who fall for the holiness spiral until they go full Father Ferapont, to put it simply. They act like they are only the holiest of Church Elders, and it is impossible for me to spend any amount of time there without feeling disgusted by their antics. That, plus their pro-racemixing beliefs to "epically pwn /pol/!" is pathetic as well.
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>>95041
fuck that gay ass website lol
>>95335
>they are high-quality in themselves
Then there's no fucking problem nigger
<but I don't like to read shitty posts
And yet you make them all the same
>plus the fact that it's basically /pol/ at least since the Russia and Ukraine slapfight
This hasn't prevented it from being /k/, there's just /pol/ shit going on as well. It's shocking not spilled out of the containment general that much either.
>>95335
The problem was that the main ethonoglobenigger was the fucking BO himself.
There was a thread where he was asked why the synarchists got banned and answered that he always wanted /fascist/ to be a NatSoc board, but knew the anon.cafe admins would never give him a board if they knew it was primarily going to be a race war board.

Also the ethnoglobe kiddies didn't just annoy /k/. They pretty much pissed off the entire existing anon.cafe userbase. /comfy/ even got unlisted for a while to keep out those morons and /christian/ almost died and only recoved after /fascist/ got booted.
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>>95351
I'm not sure if the BO is even white, but I really doubt he is an ethnoglober when the fucking board mascot was a brown girl. Also, every thread on fascist seems to devolve into theology debates to this very day, so I don't see how you can lay all the fault on it. Quite a bit of ass-pulling you're performing over a couple autistic retards with delusions of grandeur. What do you expect of the BO? To marry their mothers and ground them from internet?
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Their mascot, by the way.
His own words:
>I’ve never ran this place as some sort of *exclusive* White Nationalist board. I just wanted a comfy place to post about Fascism and related topics. People forget that I made the first Integralist-chan too.
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when is she gonna gape ass and pussy?
>>95351
>My comfy
That man children board was stunted as fuck. It delisted it's self because it couldn't handle people who weren't part of their hugbox posting there. The uwu I am a baby please treat me nice fren bullshit is cancer. It's like something Chris chan would invent. Fuck that.

>>95358
/fascist/ was always like that. They have a hard on for some brown woman and larp like her predictions of everything turning to shit are worth talking about. It screams fed op to derail everything into fart sniffing.

>>95361
Anime is not white. Jews promote it to the youth to alienate them from their own people and culture.
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>>95406
>Anime is not white.
Au contraire.
>Jews promote it
Name a name that explicitly connects Jews to anime. Aligning interests is not enough.
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>>95561
Crunchyroll
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>>95562
Capitalization on the growing popularity of anime in the 2010s.
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>>95565
Names. Of specific Jewish individuals.
It's amazing how you can't follow simple commands.
>>95566
Dubbing is cancer, and the Maidragon dub is especially cancerous.
Nobody except the most braindead bother with it.
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>>95573
>Names. Of specific Jewish individuals.
>It's amazing how you can't follow simple commands.
>>95573
My two most significant Israeli cultural experiences of 2019 came from a graphic novel and a music video. Both are highly reflective of the anxieties that shape 21st-century Israeli life, and both of them deal with these anxieties using the cultural vocabulary of a seemingly distant culture—Japan.

The graphic novel, Piece of Mind (originally titled חשבון של הנפש—the Jewish term for self-examination), written by Nimrod Frydman and illustrated by Guy Lenman, made headlines recently when it won the prestigious International Manga Award, given by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the global promotion of manga (Japanese comics) culture. This is actually the second time an Israeli graphic novel has won the award. Piece of Mind was preceded by The Divine, written by Boaz Lavie and illustrated by Asaf and Tomer Hanuka, which won the award in 2015.

Yet while the Hanuka brothers are among Israel’s most recognized and respected comic artists, both locally and globally, Piece of Mind grabbed the award seemingly out of nowhere. The book was published in very small quantities by relatively unknown creators, starting out as Lenman’s graduation project at the Shenkar art school.

Piece of Mind follows Itzik, a young Israeli man who, after his untimely death, finds himself in “limbo”—a bureaucratic nightmare realm, in which the souls of dead people must endure endless waiting lines before facing a committee that judges if they are worthy of transfer to heaven. Itzik’s committee repeatedly turns down his transfer request, arguing that he fails to recognize the negative aspects of the apathetic attitude he expressed throughout his life. To make matters worse, Itzik knows that the committee is correct: His attitude has led to a tragic incident, and he is haunted by guilt. Still desperate to be transferred to heaven, Itzik approaches a mysterious woman who runs a dubious business that promises to help committee rejects to achieve their wishes.

What was it about Piece of Mind that caught the attention of Japanese award judges? In terms of design and page layout, there isn’t much about it that corresponds with the Japanese style—in fact, it recalls the Hanuka brothers’ portrayal of Israeli characters as somber people in somber surroundings. A notable exception is the mysterious woman who promises to help the protagonist, who does feature a “manga girl” look. But the appeal to Japanese judges probably lay deeper within the graphic novel’s themes.

Israeli readers of Piece of Mind will probably giggle at the portrayal of the afterlife as a version of Israeli government institutes where people must wait patiently for their appointments—and Japanese readers will probably identify with the experience of patiently waiting in long, endless lines.

I am guessing, though, that it’s the graphic novel’s main theme that caught the award judges’ attention: Should apathy be criminalized? A surprising number of Israelis will probably answer this question positively, as extroverted portrayals of emotion are often considered to be very typical of Israeli behavior and keeping one’s emotions in check is often frowned upon—in contrast to Japan.

Yet Frydman and Lenman ask if the Israeli open attitude to emotion is in fact a cover for something darker, turning Piece of Mind into a surprisingly complex and deep study of the Israeli soul—a remarkable achievement for a work that’s just under 80 pages.

***

Another striking examination of the Israeli psyche, also deeply rooted in Japanese culture, is offered in the 2019 music video for “Kirkarat Zahav” (“Golden Carriage”), a song by folk-rock musician Tomer Yeshayahu. Haaretz critic Ben Shalev called Yeshayahu “one of the most obsessive wanderers of current Israeli music,” as many of his songs take listeners to different locations along the Israeli landscape. Yet there is no specific reference to any Israeli geographic location in “Kirkarat Zahav.” The enigmatic lyrics appear to refer to a failed relationship, recounted by a woman who recalls drawing comfort from her boyfriend’s lies about how the relationship was going to last, even though they both knew it wouldn’t.

Yeshayahu’s song could be from anywhere. It is the beautiful animated music video that accompanies the song—directed by Tom Engler and Danielle Peleg of Studio Chapachka—that gives the song a strong Israeli context in both its nostalgic references to an Israel of the past, and strong connection to the familiar Israeli reality of 2019.

The video follows a young woman, driving across the country, picking up different hitchhikers, in a desperate and failed search of a meaningful connection. The video’s backgrounds are a love song to Israeli landscapes, from the familiar sights of Tel Aviv and Haifa to typical road landmarks like shielded bus stops and the yellow gas stations. However, the passengers picked up by the protagonist are not Israeli. They are Swedish, and Finnish, and Italian, and American and British, and above all Japanese. They represent another Israeli love song, a love song for a lost Israeli childhood.

Sound confusing? It won’t be to the Israeli children of the 1980s and the early 1990s, a time when Israel’s national broadcast channel had little competition, and animated adaptations of the great masterpieces of children’s literature ruled children’s broadcasting blocks. A generation of Israeli children fell in love with the works of L. Frank Baum, Tove Jansson, Lucy Maud Montgomery, and J.M. Barrie, among many others, through animated 52-episode runs throughout the school year, and reruns during summer vacations. For especially curious children who couldn’t wait to see how these stories ended, the programs provided an incentive to go to the library and pick up the original books.

While these shows were made by different studios, they all came from the same country: Japan. Long-running adaptations of Western children’s literature became a big business on Japanese television in the 1970s and ’80s, and their productions employed top talents from the country’s prolific animation industry, notably the young Hayao Miyazaki (future director of Totoro, Princess Mononoke, Kiki’s Delivery Service, and the Academy Award-winning Spirited Away) and Mamoru Oshii (who later directed the 1995 cult cyberpunk film Ghost in the Shell).

Israeli children were vaguely aware that the shows they were watching were Japanese, but they didn’t care much—anime fandom wasn’t a thing in Israel back then (it was barely a thing anywhere else) and they were too young to wonder why an animated adaptation of an Italian book should have Japanese end-credits.

The release of the video, however, makes this connection explicit, from the Japanese titles at the beginning to the identity of the different hitchhikers picked up by the protagonist. They are all grown-up versions of the kid characters from the animated adaptations that Israeli children grew up watching. Peter Pan, Anne Shirley from Anne of Green Gables, and Little My from Moomin are all seen in the video in their familiar designs from the shows, only as older, bitter people.

Two of the characters picked up by the video’s protagonist are worthy of special attention. One is Nils, the hero of Selma Lagerlöf’s classic book about a bad boy shrunken to a tiny size who joins a flock of wild geese in a journey across Sweden. Other than a moral story of a bad boy who learns proper behavior, Lagerlöf’s book is aimed primarily at teaching Swedish children about the geography and history of their country. For the children of Israel in the 1960s, the novel did the exact same thing. Etzbeoni, the young country’s leading children’s magazine, ran an illustrated local adaptation in which the protagonist (now named “Gil”) flies on the back of the goose on a journey across Israeli landscapes, learning of different places and their people.

By the time the Japanese animated adaptation aired on Israeli television in the mid-’80s, the Israeli children who read Etzbeoni’s localized version had become parents themselves; watching the show with their children must have felt like coming full circle. In the music video, though, Nils is now a grown-up, who at first appears to accept the protagonist’s offer of a romantic relationship, though his mind keeps wandering to his days as a child who flew freely in the sky. Even as a grown-up, Nils cannot shake his wanderlust, whereas the protagonist wishes to find a place to rest and settle down.

Another famous wanderer picked up by the video’s protagonist is the hero of From the Apennines to the Andes, a short story within Edmondo De Amicis’ 1886 seminal novel Cuore (“Heart”). The story followed a courageous Italian child named Marco, who goes on a tough journey from Italy to Argentina to find his mother, after letters from her stopped coming. As with other stories in De Amicis’ book, it’s a story with a strong patriotic subtext, emphasizing the national pride young Italian boys should feel. This subtext was not lost on pedagogues all over the world, especially in countries that gained or struggled for their independence—including both Japan and Israel. Zionist-oriented publications for children have featured Hebrew translations of stories from the book as early as 1903, with two separate translations of the entire book appearing in the 1950s. Cuore also made quite an impact on Japanese culture, notably inspiring the acclaimed Japanese poet Kenji Miyazawa.

The Japanese animators knew that they were dealing with a classic, and gave it the respect it deserves, expanding the short scope of From the Apennines to the Andes to a long, ongoing emotional affair. Upon its Israeli broadcast in the following decade, the show became a classic for the local audience in its own right, again appealing to both adults who remembered reading the book in their youth and to their children. The first-rate dubbing and translation, especially evident in the show’s theme song, are still regarded as a high standard that Hebrew dubs should meet:

In the music video, Marco is no longer a young boy but an adult who joins the protagonist’s ride, but he can’t shake his childhood memories. The hardships he went through in the animated adaptation left him traumatized. He can’t bring himself to joining a carefree afternoon with the protagonist and a couple of beers.

The final hitchhiker picked up by the protagonist is different. He is none other than the singer Tomer Yeshayahu, who leads her all the way to Tel Aviv, and offers for her to come with him—signaling that her journey is over, she finally found a person with whom she can stay. But just as she considers this offer, the ground underneath her car breaks down, keeping her forever separated from whatever solace she might have found.

At the video’s conclusion, we see the map of Israel broken into many tiny islands. The days in which Japanese-animated adaptations of classic children’s literature brought Israeli children together in a joint viewing experience on a single TV channel are long gone, and Israeli society at the closing of the 2010s is deeply fragmented.

If Piece of Mind dealt with the inner emotional difficulties of Israeli existence, the video for “Kirkarat Zahav” deals with the social circumstances at the root of these difficulties—the broken childhood promises of solidarity and friendship. The superb use of Japanese themes in both works points, perhaps, to a surprisingly strong connection between two seemingly dissimilar, even opposite cultures.

***

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Raz Greenberg, an animation researcher, is the author of Hayao Miyazaki: Exploring the Early Work of Japan’s Greatest Animator.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/in-2019-israel-turned-japanese
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>>95406
I don't really like fascist, but I would think shitty ass anon cafe administration would welcome them with arms wide open if they were feds. I would say most forum usage is just fart sniffing but without the retarded pretense that it's something meaningful that politically focused boards have. Even if you share a bomb manual that 200 people download, it is almost guaranteed not even a single user will apply its knowledge if any even skim through it. Even funnier, a more direct call to action like that is something that would be posted on k and yet the board with a couple impotent basement-dwellers sperging about pointless arguments and calling each other kike nonstop is the one that gets deleted.
On anime, I watch a lot of it but it's not an important part of my identity. I think a lot of imageboard users see it as an inseparable part of the imageboard identity, though, since this style of BBS is Japanese in origin. I know localization is fully jewish and that many anime are basically just softcore pedo tranny porn or otherwise degenerative, but that's all entertainment media. There are a couple good anime, either for message or raw aurtistic merit, same as with film or Western animation. One of the final scenes of Angel Cop is the most frank indictment of jews in the whole medium.
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>>95561
Hilarious how only anime has autistic shit like this. Not even Steven Universe which people bash as one of the most "SJW" shows has any of this crap. (Its actually a really damn good show with great characters, both male and female. Greg is a fine dad and Steven matures/grows massively over the span of the show, saving everyone else's asses on numerous occasions in acts of complete selflessness). You either get the /pol/ trash like >>95561 or the Reddit Twitter crap like >>95566, both on completely separate sides of the spectrum (autism spectrum, that is). Obsessive anime fans will never not be pathetic to me.
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>>95596
seething ricecel
>>95595
>couple impotent basement-dwellers sperging about pointless arguments and calling each other kike nonstop
This is why nu-/pol/ is the worst cancer upon the imageboardscape. A board that once had excellent discussion and long, drawn-out posts over the finer points of ecology, architecture, farming, the role of technology, etc., in addition to the obvious politics, gets drowned out by those niggers-in-spirit throwing out the word kike like it's going out of style.
>>95595
>On anime, I watch a lot of it
Such as?
>many anime are basically just softcore pedo tranny porn
This statement makes me doubt the previous one. If SOL anime like Yuru Yuri, a common scapegoat, somehow falls under this definition of yours, you are retarded.
>>95594
You still haven't named a name that explicitly connects Jews to anime.
Kikes taking a stab at making manga themselves =/= "jews promoting anime to the youth to alienate them from their own people and culture". Nobody knows, or cares about this sort of crap.
It getting International Manga Awards is irrelevant;
"International Manga Award (国際漫画賞, Kokusai manga shou) is an annual award established to encourage non-Japanese manga artists in 2007."
>>95596
>Hilarious how only anime has autistic shit like this.
You make the mistake of taking anything in the anime dub world seriously. Whatever happens there is entirely irrelevant.
>Obsessive anime fans will never not be pathetic to me.
<defending Steven Universe
You're in no position to speak.
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>schizos and retards writing paragraphs
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>>95602
You are retarded if you think comments on a ten-year-old's bust or a scene of a preteen in a too small swimsuit arching her back to pronounce how far her ass sticks out is not suggestive content, and SOL is full of shit like this. That's why creepy old faggots like you watch it when it otherwise pretends to be a cartoon for school-age girls. Where is that useless transvestite who posts as the Happy Sugar Life pedo-bitch protagonist all the time? Oh well, you're still an autistic retard in denial and I don't need to write a list of a couple hundred anime to earn credibility in your eyes.
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>>95602
>You're in no position to speak.
Have you ever actually seen Steven Universe for yourself, or do you automatically just hate it because of stuff you've read on imageboards/E;Rs videos/the fact it isn't anime?

Spoiler alert: Steven Universe has REAL relationships, no harem crap, no self-insert crap, no edging without the characters ever kissing/confessing to one another, etc. NONE OF THAT gay otaku shit.
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>>95605
Fuck man if you hadn't posted this the bait would've garnered at least 3 more replies. What a fucking waste.
>Spoiler alert: Steven Universe has REAL relationships, no harem crap, no self-insert crap, no edging without the characters ever kissing/confessing to one another, etc. NONE OF THAT gay otaku shit.
This makes it way too obvious. "Spoiler alert" and "REAL".
smh

good try though
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>>95604
Consider this image.
>when it otherwise pretends to be a cartoon for school-age girls.
They explicitly fall under the seinen category.
>I don't need to write a list of a couple hundred anime to earn credibility in your eyes
It's always this line of bullshit with you people.
<make statement
>challenge it
<I don't need to back up shit, I'm a big boy, fuck you!!1
Then whatever credibility you claim to have doesn't exist.
>>95605
>no edging without the characters ever kissing/confessing to one another
Few anime do that these days.
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>>95604
I agree with you. I don't think loli/shota stuff is pedophilia because I've read a decent amount of scientific/psychological literature on it, but I still wouldn't trust anime weirdos near any future children of mine or any children for that matter. Go on Gelbooru and look up images with the "loli" tag. Most posts will have creepy ass comments like "Little girls are always in need of a good fucking" or some other deranged crap. There used to be a "toddlercon" tag on Gelbooru but it got removed years ago because it was used by actual, real life pedophiles who'd trade links and CP in PMs and comment sections. Some loli art is even traced from real CP as well.

>>95609
>Few anime do that these days.
Really? I'm calling massive bullshit on this.
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>>95608
Not bait though. Western cartoons are always better than anime shit. Western cartoon communities and fandoms have real women too (Real real women with vagoos and titties, not "women" with "girldicks")
>>95609
>hurr muh tired old pedo graph.jpg
>hurr list every anime u ever watched, oh u arent as much of a low functioning autist like me to feel like doing that? guess i win...
I like you went from saying SOL isn't pedoshit to completely admitting it. Confirmed for retard devoid of self-awareness. The only place you get to be a smug pedo openly is on anonymous forums and behind proxies.
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>>95596
You are handpicking a specific show and then comparing it to the extremely broad animation style of anime, which is an unfair comparison that leads to your argument being nonsensical. Arguing for western animation vs. anime would be a much fairer standing point and would make your argument a lot stronger. But anyways, of course Steven Universe isn't going to have anything like the two images you replied to. It's a TV-PG show where kids 12 years old and under are the target audience. They don't have the mental capacity to understand patriarchy nor the ability to differentiate skeletal structures across 2D and 3D. Any attempts to teach them this kind of information in the show will go right through their heads. If any show whatsoever wishes to indoctrinate something into its viewers, it is best to target the teen demographic.

If you want to complain about something pertaining to anime then complain about how cookie-cutter the average plot has become.
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>>95614
The confusing part of anonymous culture is that you might be arguing with completely different people without even realizing. This is why I suggest we all start using a name + tripcode to avoid further confusion.
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>>95616
It's not a big stretch to assume there is some continuity to an anonymous discussion, especially in such a short frame of time and on a low-traffic place. They could be two different retards both with a habit of setting autistic expectations to win petty arguments (in their minds).
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>>95617
Sorry the thing is I just don't get any attention irl my parents never loved me and I have no friends or acquaintances and I cope by being a whore on imegeboards. Also I love sucking big juicy nigger dicks, that's why I fly the "d" banner because I'm gay.
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>sucking big juicy nigger dicks
enjoy aids
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>>95624
Do you actually know what sage does? Or do you just use it when you are angry?
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>>95621
I'm sorry to hear that
>>95624
Thanks I will enjoy  nigger dicks  in my loose asshole and my aids too
>>95615
I picked SU because its one of the shows that gets the most hatred and complaints in regards to "SJW" stuff. I'm saying that Steven Universe, a show that people closely relate to Tumblr and bash for its openness, doesn't have anything near the crap in the Funimation dubs. The other western shows I've seen don't either.

If you want me to complain about anime I can say lots of things. The whole anime pipeline is a broken mess that's extremely unlikely to change because of the nature of Japanese business and their culture. The huge majority of shows are not well written enough to make something spectacular out of a single cour. Dirty ass weebs on imageboards love quantity over quality and boast about how they've seen 400+ shows in their entire life as some worthless means of trying to make themselves look like more of an oldfag. 
Anime animation is usually below average and uninspired. With western cartoons you can take multiple different shows and can experience vastly different animation styles. Take Steven Universe vs The Amazing World of Gumball for example. Both have characters that look similar, but their environments are vastly different. TAWG goes for photorealistic environments and goofy, diverse character designs while SU goes for atmospheric, clean environments that give it a very fantasy-like, spacious feeling. Most anime looks the same and if you took character-free stills from different shows and asked people to differentiate between them they wouldn't be able to.
Anime plots are the same shit most of the time. Slice of life with a small group of mentally impaired, young girls doing absolutely nothing of value for 12 episodes. Isekai shows where the main character (usually some generic teenage boy) ends up in a different world with a growing harem of girls. Pretentious "deep" shows that bring up the same themes of death, depression, etc. Relationship-centric shows.
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>>95621
Why are you apologizing? I have no problem with you.
>>95611
>I don't think loli/shota stuff is pedophilia because I've read a decent amount of scientific/psychological literature on it,
Care to list any examples? I want an interesting read.
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>>95625
Sage can be used politely when making off-topic posts that you don't want bumping the thread, but it's usually used to express disdain about a thread or post without bumping the thread.
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>>95643
>kevinspaceyis.gay
brb registering
>>95243
This is the same with furries everywhere on the internet, and the two dpt back on 8chan''s /b/.  Also with /pol/, though /pol/ was big enough to not get as much pushback.
I think weebs think they have more of a right to push their shit everywhere, which is understandable considering it's a fucking imageboard.  It does however get obnoxious to see someone that's obviously a newfag to a board asking question with random anime girls everywhere.  If all the newfags from /pol/ flood a /tech/ board with dumb questions while constantly talking about "the jews" every other sentence, it's gonna get annoying.  And even when someone does know what they're talking about, you're still going to be suspicious because they're constantly signaling "I'm not from here."
If the sites has an aesthetic or a main board, it can still work, since even if it is a /co/ board most people there are interested in hacking, or whatever the main board/aesthetic is.  But if it's a site that's attracting multiple separate communities/boards, inevitably you're going to have a "bigger board" that assumes it's the dominant aesthetic.  And the smaller boards will be filled with either people who find the bigger board annoying or who come from the bigger board.
>>95642
Nothing except posts from some forensic psychology major on Kiwifarms who linked to individual papers. What he said was basically "Loli is highly stylized art separate from real life and "true" child-preferring pedophiles would just go straight for real CP instead of wasting time on cartoons that don't work for them". Its why loli isn't illegal in the US and most other countries, although it definitely won't help for Justice Patterson to see it on your drives when you get arrested for fedposting too hard. No such thing as a fictional character being victimized. Keep in mind that loli art is a spectrum, and you have some art that would pass as young adult to photorealistic borderline CP shit, which most lolicons despise. Loli is honestly more representative of a particular petite/cute artstyle rather than an age bracket.
>>95647
>"Loli is highly stylized art separate from real life and "true" child-preferring pedophiles would just go straight for real CP instead of wasting time on cartoons that don't work for them"
>photorealistic borderline CP shit, which most lolicons despise
https://lolibooru.moe/forum/show/4329
>Loli is honestly more representative of a particular petite/cute artstyle rather than an age bracket.
No shit nigga
This isn't a revelation
It's been this way for a fucking decade
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>>95647
Loli is meant to appeal to pedophiles.
>>95648
Your post is cope.
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>>95650
Your post is projection.
the jews
>>95647
>Kiwi farm told me pedos don't like loli
Loli is a gate way drug. The media you consume influences how you view the world. Most people arrested for CP collections also have lolicon in it. You're trying to redefine what pedophile means, which is a sexual attraction to CHILDREN. Having fantasies of fucking anime children is still fucking children in your fantasies and the slippery slope kicks in. 

Lolicons get the reputation they have from how they act. If you jerked off to loli on boorus and never mentioned it to any one else ever very few people would have a reason to care. But when you have pedophiles actively spamming it and trying to tempt others by doing so, it becomes a big problem. Children are being sexualized in the real world today and it's wrong, getting guys hooked on anime children porn is the other side of that coin. You break down their morality piece by piece until the 10 year old wearing yoga pants is just like in my japanese animes and I'm a lonely virgin so why not?

You have a diseased mind and want to spread that disease further. Try self reflecting and asking yourself what you have in life and where it went so wrong you collect and masturbate to anime (children or other wise). You know you're unhappy and porn is escapism for you, where you can pretend to be a chad and fuck children because no real woman wants you. lolicons are trying to escape their inability to get adult women so they look at children to escape that reality. And anime adds to the same escapism.
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>>95662
>Having fantasies of fucking anime children is still fucking children
I only want to fuck consenting adults.
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Posting ITT because of boredom.
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>10 year old wearing yoga pants
Who lets their child dress like a slut? 99% of the time, it's the mom who sexualizes their own daughter or tolerates it. It's a form of cuckqeaning and a projection of their own incestual impulses.
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>>95665
Not that I’m complaining of course.
>>95662
Except its not a gateway drug at all. Pedophiles will always be pedophiles and always have been pedophiles. People can look at weird shit on /d/ and loli but that's not going to make them turn into full on pedophile cross-dressing prostitutes. Your brain is hard-wired to be a specific way and porn can only fulfill your urges, not modify them. A man who exclusively likes women can't be conditioned to all of sudden like men.

Last part of your post is likely projection dude. I've had plenty of women into me in the past and went on a nice date last year actually. Being NEET has prevented me from getting out in the world as much as I used to unfortunately, but I am certainly more than capable of being in social settings when I'm out and about.
>>95672
Shush, braindead human trash.
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>>95672
No thanks bub. Cry about it.
>>95673
Nope. :)
>>95664
hey zonz what's ur irc
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geez people, you talk a lot of shit aren't you?
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>>95678
t.newfriend
>>95647
loli is not separate from real cp. it's funny being called an anime or imageboard noob, because you will inevitably see some extremely horrible shit posted regardless of every separate forum's moderation. apparently you are just a noob for not liking. well, i dont want sex with an adult woman even. i dont want a libido. i will just let my own horniness die naturally.
also, pretty funny i was only compelled to comment to defend a board i dislike and now there is an argument about the legitimacy of pedophilia.
>>95611
>Most posts will have creepy ass comments like "Little girls are always in need of a good fucking" or some other deranged crap.
That's a Gelbooru problem, not a loli problem.
>>95614
>admitting it
Where? Saying that SOL is seinen =/= SOL is pedo.
>Confirmed for retard devoid of self-awareness.
Confirmed for retarded narrative forcer.
>>95630
>Anime animation is usually below average and uninspired.
Go to Sakugabooru if you care about animation.
>Anime plots are the same shit most of the time.
Until it isn't.
>Slice of life with a small group of mentally impaired, young girls doing absolutely nothing of value for 12 episodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPPlSkQ1WEQ Waiting for Godot, etc.
>Isekai shows where the main character (usually some generic teenage boy) ends up in a different world with a growing harem of girls.
There's enough shows about isekai that go against the ideas of isekai that that kind of show now falls under "same shit most of the time".
Now the exception is isekai that sticks to the fundamental principles of isekai and does them well. Mushoku Tensei is a good example of this, although its actually the progenitor of modern isekai.
>>95662
<You have a diseased mind blah blah blah
You're not going to get rewarded for your posts, Chosen One.
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>>95699
>HURR HURR SOL IS ACTUALLY THIS OTHER GENRE
dude, you are actually the real anime noob if you think this is true. furthermore, YOU tried shifting goalposts toward SOL to begin with (which is actually extremely retarded, the literal worst genre to shift toward in attempting to refocus to say anime isn't rife with pedophilia). i said:
>I know localization is fully jewish and that many anime are basically just softcore pedo tranny porn
And then the SOL discussion came up. Literally handing me the smoking gun is just what you did lmfao.
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>>95703
<smoking gun
A plastic water gun.
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>>95706
<im butthurt and lacking a real rebuttal
That's really cool, little guy.
*pats your head*
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>>95677
Uh, well, don't have my own, just in some servers and I only occasionally open it. Went to sleep after that post, sorry.
>>95672
The human brain is not hard wired, it can be trained through position and negative stimulation. When you masturbate to something you give signals you train your brain with it. You can easily train people to respond to things like phones ringing or instant messenger alerts. What the fuck do you think jerking off to things does to the brain? Most sexual freaks aren't born, they're made. Faggots associate faggotry with their dicks feeling good when they got molested as young teenagers. Pedos almost always have a history of sexual abuse in their lives and this is no different. You're being trained to be a sexual deviant.

"I went on a nice date last year". Says everything we need to know pedo.

And while you're a retarded cunt. If you enable pedophile interests you attract pedophiles who feel welcome because it's one of the few places they're not immediately banned from. Loli makes and attracts pedos, they band together and feel supported and more open to post CP.
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>>95873
More /bmw/ agent larper nonsense.
You still write under the assumption that 2D = 3D.
Why don't you get a white wife and make a lot of babies with her instead of trying to win imageboard arguments?
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>>95901
>>95873
I think we should beat all children to death.
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>You still write under the assumption that 2D = 3D
It still stimulates the same neural pathways, retard. There is no functional difference.
The whole "You just can't get a real woman" feminist trope needs to end.
Current year women are insufferable and it's perfectly reasonable to avoid them in favor of porn escapism. Sometimes people use porn because they have no better options, but sometimes it's very much a conscious choice. A volcel only looks at 3DPD porn because of biological programming and previous conditioning, not because he unironically wants a "real woman".
>>95904
I think we should beat all children off.
>derailed the thread into le pedo shit
Dudes just get back on track, why are we not getting quality or posters on ZZZchud? this place is fucking dead and i've only ever seen it be active in these gay not e3 streams
>>95958
You write like a fag and your shit's all retarded. Leave now and never come back.
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>>95958
>why are we not getting quality
Quality is for rulecuck redditors
>why are we not getting posters
PPH is for cuckchanners

It's time to realize that you're the outsider. In order to "fix" this "problem" you would have to want to fix it, but people here prefer it like this, they WANT to spend the rest of their lives in their own secret little bitching contest.
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>>95958
>>95964
posts by people who lost and can never win
>>95958 
How many times does it need to be said? ((( alt-chans ))) are all subverted honeypots controlled by feds and spooks who are actively trying to demoralize and frustrate you so that you eventually leave and return to the overtly controlled cattlespaces so you can be fed kosher pilpul and eventually become good goy debt cattle.
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>>95966
>t. redditor who bought a 4chan gold pass
kek
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>>95967
>sage is always butthurt
kek
>>95958
The "pedoshit" shit is a derailing tactic used by the feds and moralfagging retards trying to steer the discussion away from actual topics. 
>>95966
Then don't be demoralized and frustrated, simple as. I will continue posting as usual and no glownigger can do a goddamn thing to stop me.
I'm looking for some altchan board with a bunch of 4chad mod irc (or maybe discord) leaks. I thought it was on the Chadring but I can't find it.
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>>93641
>Frenschan
It's straight stormfag shit. They delete even PG anime images to accommodate the horny "muh white race" fags.
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>>96092
good
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>>96093
so go post there?
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>>96095
what?
>>96092
>Oh noes, I can't spam muh anigay avatarfaggotry on literally every board on every IB on the internet. Why can't those nazis just let me do what I waaaaaaaant. Rrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!111111111
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>>96098
>on literally every board
I'm talking about /b/
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>>93641
>dead altchan #6725
nah
>>96112
The first image is completely correct. How many times have threads been killed by human automatons repeating the same old mental loops on imageboards?  There's no discussions, OC or fun precisely because those fucking subhuman niggers spam their bullshit without getting deleted or b&hammered.
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>>96112
Having used a couple of "rule 8" imageboards in the past, I can confidently say that they're completely full of shit. Even with Pepe/Wojak/buzzwords being banned on site, drama still often runs rampant for different reasons, and they usually end up being worse off than imageboards that don't police posts to an extreme level like that.
The problem with "rule 8" is that most of the time Pepe/Wojak isn't even the actual problem, but rather the annoying poster(s) using them, and annoying people come in all different forms, including the people that whine about Pepe and "outsiders" and want "rule 8". The little Apu Pepe for example is cute and the posters I've seen that use him are often reasonably pleasant, but by virtue of them using Pepe they'll be banned instantly, and this hyper-reactive mindset paves the road for real trolls to post Wojaks/Pepe in a lulzy, efficient self-fulling prophecy.
Real (not forced) OC comes into existence when a community is fun and is positively reinforcing, which "rule 8" sites aren't. People feel as though they have some obligation to create OC rather than just doing it out of passion and wanting to spread happiness to others, and they're usually not even happy in the first place since most "rule 8" people have a sense of elitism and self-righteousness about themselves. Its not lighthearted at all.

Also, one thing I noticed about that "rule 8" screenshot is the style of the board within it. Its trying to emulate the feel of early 4chan. Its clear to me what they're trying to do and I'm going to say right now that it isn't going to work. Happiness will never exist if you're always dwelling in the past instead of focusing on doing stuff in the present organically.
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>>96112
>4th pic
I think I've realized why I hate wojak/pepe shit so much.
When comparing the two figures in the different comics, it's easily apparent that the figures on the left have much more personality and character, despite being stick figures with relative lack of detail. Because of this, I would like to make the conjecture that wojak/pepe images are just the le ebin 4chan version of emojis. Like emojis, wojak/pepe edits and images are usually made to reflect a singular emotion, like anger, sadness, happiness, or depression. Furthermore, there are usually relatively minimal changes between each edit.
Overall, due to their inherent nature, wojak/pepe comics usually define concepts in "x good" or "x bad" without any nuance, which explains why they are usually regarded as shit.
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>>96112
>4th pic
Why is the left side so ugly?
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>>96128
The problem is that wojack or feels guy was originally created to express a relatable emotion. Since then it has morphed into a quick way to make fun of someone and as such has becomed spammy and obnoxious in nature. Pepe too.
>How do we get more people on the chadring?
Kill yourself.
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>>96190
>seething
kek
>>96181
>that cis white male feels emotions XD

It's not the wojaks fault really.
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>>96181
>morphed
Relatability is peak normalfaggotry. "I know that feel" is literally failed normalfags commiserating. It's been refined into what it was at it's essence, which is "I like (thing), and like people do like (thing), and don't like people who don't like (thing)", which is gay as fuck. Liking something for the wrong reason is the worst thing you can do since it not only demonstrates that you have no valid basis for your beliefs and are basically a soulless automaton out here to deceive people to no coherent end, it mucks up conversation to boot.
>>96127
Of course, in cases where there's some degree of (enforced) identityfaggotry it's usually demonstrably the same people complaining about "rule 8" on one site and posting it on the very sites they complain about.
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>>96128
Soyjack hits the uncanny valley really hard, too; something's just not right about them all, like it's as if an AI does 90%+ of the edits. Maybe it's only a symptom of humanity becoming a soulless and homogeneous machine. It almost makes me believe in memes getting possessed by malevolent entities seeing them.
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>>96212
<how dare you feel as others do!
<I am LITERALLY completely different than other anons!
<I did not FAIL at fitting it, I decided to be a a social reject!
Fuck you you little stupid nigger.
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>>96212
Relatability is only a way to do humor or tell a story. It has nothing to do with blindly following an ideal. It helps stablishing a character or a mood.
A lot of old /v/-tan comics use it.
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>>96214
Lots of soyjacks are commissioned, so rather than being directly applicable to specific context (i.e. someone made an edit for that post) they're being used categorically.
>>96217
>I'm a loser so everyone else must be too!
You're a prime example of the kind of "person" that might have overlapping interests (in terms of content) with myself who I wouldn't give the time of day and who has no actual common interests (in terms of theory) with me.
>>96224
What the fuck do you think relatability means nigger?
Nothing about the comics posted is 'relatable'. Yes, it's a cultural injoke. Nowhere is the feeling of the author to the shared context implied to be universal, nor is it even a major element that's explicit rather than inferred.
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>>96214
>t almost makes me believe in memes getting possessed by malevolent entities seeing them.
Wasn't there an /x/post saying that the shroomjak actually was demonic? I wouldn't be surprised, given how far they've spread and how quickly they've taken over on imageboards.
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>>96227
>relatability - the quality of being easy to understand or feel sympathy for
I don't understand your concept of it. Like a reaction image but in the form of a short comic?
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>>96230
I was thinking about all that "kek" bullshit back on 8ch. If you already believe in autonomous thought forms, it's not a far stretch to assume that mind viruses can carry them like a natural virus can carry a genetic payload.
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>>96227
<everyone is a loser but me!
I know that feel bro!
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>>96232
And who exactly am I supposed to feel sympathy for in >>96224? I get the comics, I know these people, at the time I saw those comics originally I'd see the activity being described every day.
The last comic you've posted here is basically just as bad as the soyjack shit, though naturally it's got a bit more meaning to it since it's not assembly line boilerplate and was actually drawn by the person making the point. Except the punchline
<Usage of this shitty board is part of my identity
is made as a comment without explicitly requesting that I sympathize with it, so in that regards it's well superior. Something like the image macro on >>96181 does have room to be interesting content because it's just commenting on/illustrating a particular mindset. Wojak shit can be fine like that. It's not in being relatable that gives it value though, and everything that's been stripped down to just an attempt to be relatable is pretty well worthless.
>I don't understand your concept of it.
A character is relatable if you relate to them easily. That is, it's a vicarious self insertion. It isn't value.
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>>96237
>If I'm a loser everyone else must be!
On the contrary, everyone else here is not very definitely (although very possibly) a loser, yourself being the exception who is certainly a loser.
>>96243
Relatability is not necessarily self-insertion. It's just a way to construct a character.
Understading the motives behind actions is part of every piece of media. If you don't care about the character presented to you. Why would you continue watching?
It can be done terribly like those bikecuck comics or well like Berserk and Goodnight Pun Pun.
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>>96245
I think all good characters also need a good bit of estrangement so that you still understand that it absolutely is a different person to you, even though I agree and think it is obvious that they should also be relatable.
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>>96233
"Mind virus" would be more apt than "Demon". As you said as the virus is to the gene, the ??? is to the meme. Memetic virus, perhaps. But I say the old answers, the old ways, are best. It is cancer simple and plain, cancer brought to us by users who have AIDS. AIDS and cancer of the mind, yes, but still AIDS and cancer all the same. If only one could close the pool to those who have AIDS or go to a pool which did not allow cancerous posters.
>>96246
This is the first good post I've seen from you. Good job.
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>>96250
I don't care about what you think of me.
>>96250
>giving namefags attention
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>>96258
Are you aware that you were doing that yourself just now?
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>>96245
>Relatability is not necessarily self-insertion.
That's exactly what it is.
>It's just a way to construct a character.
This is a complete non-sequitur. Characters are not, in and of themselves, relatable. The audience finds them relatable or not. An author can attempt to make a character relatable, and usually this comes at the cost of the authenticity of the work since the plot is, more or less, independent of the character of the character and creating a vessel for self insertion (to whatever degree) isn't necessarily the same as creating a character who would exist in the world the way that they do.
>Understading the motives behind actions is part of every piece of media.
You don't have to relate to a character to understand their motives.
>If you don't care about the character presented to you. Why would you continue watching?
You don't have to care about a character to appreciate a work of art. You don't need to self insert, nigger.
Likewise, being able to relate to characters does nothing to elevate the art. I can relate to this bitch, but it doesn't make her volumes any better or worse.
>It can be done terribly like those bikecuck comics or well like Berserk and Goodnight Pun Pun.
Those are all terrible.
>>96233
An egregore is only demonic if it does productive work. A demon with idle hands is no demon at all.
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>>96261
>You don't have to relate to a character to understand their motives.
Relatability makes you understand the motives. This doesn't mean you have to agree with the actions but by putting yourself in their situation or upbringing you understand how they came to that conclusion.
>Submissive faggot doesn't like Berserk
Like pottery, It rhymes!
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>>96261
>Those are all terrible.
Nobody is going to defend you.
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>>96269
>Relatability makes you understand the motives. This doesn't mean you have to agree with the actions but by putting yourself in their situation or upbringing you understand how they came to that conclusion.
Yes, it's a crutch for shit writers that can't convey the character without making them an expy of some projected self.
>self insert faggot likes garbage seinen
woah, wow
>>96271
I don't need anybody to defend me because I can actually articulate my ideas and not hide behind the group identity of being a faggot loser who can't see any value in art
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>>96261
>>96279
Has anyone ever told you that you speak like an obnoxious fag and need to touch grass?
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>>96281
Nah, last time borderline illiterate zoomers got this mad over being unable to justify their positions after being outed as bottomfeeding normalfags was before that expression was popular on reddit.
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>>96282
The only good anime genre is Isekai and, actually, it is the only good genre.
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>>96283
The only manga that isn't bad is Akira, though. And it isn't isekai.
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>>96285
>>96283
>>96261
Berserk is great. Would be better if it focused a bit more on the politicians though.
>>96281
Has anyone ever told you that you speak like reddit?
ZOMG U GUISE /v/ IS FUCKING DEAD!!!! LE HECKIN R.I.P.ERINO
>>96516
Bro are you okay?
>>96516
>>96517
I'm 16. Should I post my dick just to fuck with you?

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST underage b&

Replies: >>96583
mods should anchor this cancer thread
>>96577
ewwww
wax those nasty curlies
>>96517
kill yourself HSLposter
>>96540 
You won't need to ban if you just anchor shitty threads. This one died a week ago.
Replies: >>96591
>>96583
It will anchor itself soon enough. Also pretty fucking hilarious to see the.one HSL tranny make a persona based on an underage character and then get banned for being underage.
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>>96591
Dang, think I misspoke and the other tard got banned ;'(
>>96591
what does hsl mean
Replies: >>96605
wuz goin' on in her
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>>96597
faggotry
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EVERYBODY WALK THE DINOSAUR
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>>96601
fuck, now we have to start over
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>>96595
Happy Sugar Life, the dumb pink haired anime whore is from it. Crap show.
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EVERYBODY WALK THE DINOSAUR
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789
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>>96610
you get it because it sounds like seven ate nine get it
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>>96611
moar liek 6 at 9, amirite?
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>>96623
6 ate 9
689
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>>96625

Why did  2 4s skip a meal? Because they already 8
get it to bump limit niggas...
what is bump limit?
Replies: >>96735
don't forget to save your posts
i meant don't forget to sage your posts l0ol
>>96731
someone said 485 in another threda
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