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Manga are Japanese comics, I don't think a lot contain obscure English slang like that. Unless you're referring to TRANSlations, in which case look for a better translation, or better yet, find a Japanese copy.

>>210197
You sound like you're posturing as an anime pro, but if you were one you'd know that the vast majority of manga outside of the popular shit has only 1 translation.

>learn Japanese
No.

>>210204
>vast majority of manga outside of the popular shit has only 1 translation
I wouldn't know since I don't "consume" translations.
>No.
Your problem.

>>210205
>your problem
That's why I complained.

>>210208
It's a stupid complaint though, and easy to solve.

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>>210194 (OP) 
who is this semen demon?
who is this dairy fairy?
who is this lactic harlot?
who is this jizz wiz?
who is this seed steed?
who is this erection ejection?
who is this jizm prism?
who is this weiner cleaner?
who is this stiffy stimulant?
who is this cock captain?
who is this cum commander?
who is this wang witch?
who is this schlong sorceress?
who is this smegma smuggler?
who is this splooge stooge?
who is this yogurt ogre?
who is this sticky pixie?
who is this cream shedim?
who is this foam gnome?
who is this rod god?
who is this marble gargoyle?
who is this scrotum golem?
who is this swole troll?
who is this drool ghoul?
who is this greased beast?
who is this pee banshee?
who is this lymph nymph?
who is this tart boggart?
who is this fluid druid?
who is this slimy blimey?
who is this froth sloth?
who is this pecker provoker?
who is this cunny bunny?
who is this ineffectual sexual?
who is this porn unicorn?
who is this spunk monk?
who is this nectar spectre?
who is this shag hag?
who is this juicy medusa?
who is this cummy mummy?
who is this slick mimic?

>>210210
>easy to solve
I have way better things to do with my time than dedicate months/years to learn proper comprehension of Japanese just so I can read a couple extra cartoons.

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>>210212
Special needs bro...

>>210212
Barbatos Bachiko

>>210212
Ri'car O. Milos

>>210213
>I have way better things to do with my time
<he says on zzzchan.xyz
>dedicate months/years to learn proper comprehension of Japanese
If you're not mentally impaired you can start watching and reading things within days/weeks. although at the beginning you will have to look up a lot of words and have low comprehension.
>just so I can read a couple extra cartoons
If you're going the irony weeb route and slandering anime/manga, why do you care so much about good translations and stuff? Just consume those "cartoons" and be quiet.

>>210217
You sound upset.

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>>210194 (OP) 
>>210212
>vertical tooth lines
Cringe westoid brainrot.

>>210219
Who are you talking to? Oh, was it >>210218 ? Do try and reply to the user you're trying to have a conversation with next time, otherwise people might think you're trying to be rude.

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>>210278
Last time I saw this picture posted someone complained and he was right, it almost makes the Crunchy Jew look optimal. Still funny though.

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>>210221
That's an southerner, pardner.

>>210288
Nyanko Days was a good manga.

>>210290
Yes it was, and you're a small amigdala homoniggger. It was very cute and comfy.

>>210293
>t. homosexual contrived-novelty-addicted basketball-american

>>210299
>watching
We weren't even talking about anime, but manga. Back to 4ddit, smallmygdala retard.

>>210302
Don't care. Nyanko Days is a cute and comfy manga and you're a niggerfaggot.

>>210304
The government wants you to love ugly fat nigger roasties. The girls and catgirls portrayed in Nyanko Days are the opposite of those negative ideals.
>cumbrain
No one ever fapped to a CGDCT anime/manga (save a few exceptions).

>>210213
>"dedicating" time instead of just readan/playan/washan whatever
>"proper" comprehension
>relying on western tranny sources of the 支那事変 instead of nipponese period literature like a white man in tune with his ancestral spirits
>missing out on shitloads of beautiful SRPG-STG-VNs too anti-semitic and pure erotic for modern dickswordian trannolator rabble to even consider approachign
Never gonna make it.

>>210217
>If you're not mentally impaired you can start watching and reading things within days/weeks
This. I memorized 50k kanji plus kana in a single day.

>>210366
You can't "just read" without first dedicating the time to learn how to read it.

>>210367
WOW back to reddit brainlet! I memorized the entire history and culture of Japan in 30 minutes.

>>210367
>kana
Yes, you can do it in a single day, though it's going to take a bit longer for your brain to get used to it. I personally did it at a slower pace and it took me 3 days.
>50k kanji
I'm not sure if you're being dishonest, joking, or are just plain ignorant/brainwashed. Only around 3 thousand kanji are commonly used.
>>210368
>dedicating the time to learn how to read it
No, you don't have to memorize kanji just like you never memorized all the word roots when learning English. You learn them by learning words that contain them, which you learn the way you learn words in any other language.
<m-muh jewtuber told me that "nips" spend 90% of their school time grinding kanji
Most of them learned kanji by reading shounenshit and playing videogames or whatever. Kanji study takes a small part of the school program, and they mostly just learn how to handwrite them. Only jiggers who don't read anything in their free time actually learn how to read kanji in school.

>>210373
You start to familiarize yourself with the Latin alphabet when you're 4 years old. When you start learning English or any other western language as a westerner, you only need to learn the language. Meanwhile you can't read or vocalize Japanese text at all before learning 2 new alphabet and 1000 moonrunes first, both of which are exclusive to Japan so there's no way you learned them anywhere else first (unless you already know Chinese, which is almost certainly not the case for anyone involved in this kind of discussion).

>>210374
>When you start learning English or any other western language as a westerner, you only need to learn the language
There are few languages where writing is consistent with reading. English especially has a lot of inconsistencies in its pronunciation when you compare it with the written form of words.
>2 new alphabet
You're showing that you don't know what you're talking about and are just parroting whatever jewtubers or 4ddit told you. That's like saying that there are 2 Latin alphabets because of uppercase and lowercase letters.
And as I said, it takes 1~3 days to memorize kana if you're not special-needs or doing it at a snail's pace, so I don't see the problem here.
>1000 moonrunes
I don't know where exactly you got "1000" from, there's no scientific number like that. Anyway, being able to vocalize a word doesn't mean that you know what it means. You can't understand spoken Japanese and you wouldn't be able to magically understand Japanese if it was written in kana or Latin letters.
If you don't know/remember the reading of a word, what you do is looking it up in a dictionary, which nowadays with technological tools is extremely simple (or just ask someone else if you're Japanese). If you knew the word already you now remember how it's written, and if you didn't know the word you learn its basic meaning from the definition, and as a bonus you intuitively start learning the kanji, so you don't have to look up other words as often. It's not rocket science. Additionally, there are various situations where you already have pronunciation alongside text, such as text with furiagana, voiced lines in games, anime/video/movie with JP subtitles, and you learn to read like that if you pay attention to the writing.
It might sound complicated but in practice it's quite intuitive when it starts clicking.
>unless you already know Chinese
You're showing yet again that you don't know what you're talking about. You were complaining about how you can't vocalize Japanese text without knowing kanji, but knowing Chinese doesn't mean that you can read (as in vocalize) kanji in Japanese. At most you can only guess the meaning better.

>>210377
>That's like saying that there are 2 Latin alphabets
Yes, except there's like 4 if you consider all the variations and cursive. You can argue about the semantics of what the exact definition of "alphabet" is, but as a learner you need to learn 2 sets of characters, not 1 set. If you learn the characters in "nigger", you don't suddenly gain the ability to read "NIGGER" even though it's the same word.

>being able to vocalize a word doesn't mean that you know what it means
Nobody said so, but you don't learn words visually based on what shapes the characters make on paper, you learn them based on how they are vocalized. If you didn't learn them based on vocalization, then you wouldn't have to learn kana or kanij in the first place, you'd just look at the shapes that the words make. When you already know Latin alphabet, you can obtain almost all of the vocalization of any Latin language simply by reading the word with no prior knowledge of the language.

>Chinese
You can cope and seethe about how Japanese kanji has been folded 8000 times and is totally different, but that doesn't change the fact that there's tons of similarities between them and a Chinese speaker would have a significantly easier time learning Japanese kanji.

>>210390
>Yes, except there's like 4 if you consider all the variations and cursive. You can argue about the semantics of what the exact definition of "alphabet" is, but as a learner you need to learn 2 sets of characters, not 1 set
But you said "You start to familiarize yourself with the Latin alphabet when you're 4 years old" and then said "you can't read or vocalize Japanese text at all before learning 2 new alphabet". Stick to only one definition, dishonest kike.
>If you didn't learn them based on vocalization, then you wouldn't have to learn kana or kanij in the first place, you'd just look at the shapes that the words make. When you already know Latin alphabet, you can obtain almost all of the vocalization of any Latin language simply by reading the word with no prior knowledge of the language.
Did you conveniently ignore my previous post where I explained that you can just look up words if you can't read them?
<hurr durr but then you'll be constantly looking up words
That would only be true in the beginning of learning, and that's only if you don't learn with material that has phonetics alongside text as I described (text with furigana, voiced lines in games, etc). Additionally, there are various ways to predict how kanji you haven't seen yet are read, and at the very least if you make a wrong guess you can still theoretically learn a word (albeit with a wrong pronunciation, which will eventually be corrected) like that.
>You can cope and seethe
And you can go back to 4ddit with those expressions.
>about how Japanese kanji has been folded 8000 times and is totally different, but that doesn't change the fact that there's tons of similarities between them and a Chinese speaker would have a significantly easier time learning Japanese kanji.
Not much for pronunciation, which is what you were initially talking about, dishonest kike.

>>210373
>Only around 3 thousand kanji are commonly used.
>Only

>>210464
I said "only" because it's a small amount compared to the strawmanish 50 thousand.
But still, it is a manageable amount. Most people in Japan don't consciously spend time "learning" them, that's a western meme to sell shitty apps like Wani Kani or whatever.

>>210468
I'm not from Japan though.

>>210469
But if you had an intention of learning a country's language, you'd better do it the way the people from there do it.

>>210473
>you'd better do it the way the people from there do it
By being taught to them since infancy?

>>210475
But they weren't taught using textbooks and apps, or even by a teacher. Everyone learns their native language independently and intuitively by listening to other people talk and asking what certain words mean and reading things.
For reading, kids are generally taught the basics by another person (eg. parents, teacher) but they get to develop their reading skills independently by reading things, and Japanese is not much different for partially using logographs, which I explained why in previous posts.
For a foreigner, the best way to simulate that would be to move to said country, but that obviously presents several problems. Thus, the second closest way to simulate that would be to read and listen to a lot of things in said language and look up unknown words. This is also why English and Japanese are the easiest languages to learn (experience with other languages aside), since you can find the former everywhere and it's basically the main language of the Internet, and the latter has a very large quantity of unpozzed and enjoyable entertainment available. That's not to say that you shouldn't read up on basic vocabulary, grammar, and other things in the beginning to give a head start when learning a language, though.

>>210468
>Most people in Japan don't consciously spend time "learning" them, that's a western meme
There's that joke that if you ask a few different Japanese people to read the same newspaper article and explain it in detail, then don't be surprised if you hear a few different answers. It's cumbersome, but in a glass half full sort of way it can be helpful to keep that in mind when approaching it.

>>210477
I guess I'll continue learning, but it's not gonna take a few weeks. It'll be at least a couple of years before I can play a game without looking up a word or a kanji every 3 seconds.

>>210478
>There's that joke that if you ask a few different Japanese people to read the same newspaper article and explain it in detail, then don't be surprised if you hear a few different answers
I'm not sure exactly of what's that about, but it's probably about Japanese in general supposedly being ambiguous or Japanese people expressing things vaguely, not about the writing system itself...
>>210481
Well, I guess that depends on how much time you dedicate and what sort of game you're talking about. Like many others I already spent a lot of time on translated Japanese media before, so it was easy to get a lot of free learning time by flipping most of that to 'untranslated'.
As a side note, you can use tools like OCR or texthookers to make the process of looking up words in games quicker.

>>210486
>probably about Japanese in general supposedly being ambiguous or Japanese people expressing things vaguely, not about the writing system itself
I've heard that in reference to both aspects, to whatever extent they can be decoupled, since a newspaper might contain, all at once, formal and informal articles, in conjunction with loan words from multiple languages, and/or historic references/quotations containing a style of writing that has fallen out of favor. The idea being that encountering all of that in one place can be discouraging to a foreigner trying to study by just reading the damn newspaper, while even many natives will argue over the finer points themselves because a lot of it went in one ear and out the other after high school and some of the loan words are rarely seen or completely unfamiliar to them.

>>210194 (OP) 
THE FISH WAS DELISH AND MADE QUITE A DISH.
uncultured cretin.

>>210481
It was like that for the first 10 months on my machine, but now (~16 months) I've gotten that to 5 minutes for most VNs.
BotW/TotK among other スイッチゲーム are breddy gud for learnan as they have 振り仮名 in dialogue but not in item menu descriptions.

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>couldn't even get through the title

>>215066
nigger